Then the problem is not common core, but a state-mandated scripted learning curriculum, which, I will readily agree, is full of shit. Keep in mind NY could have and probably would have done such a curriculum without common core.
You misunderstand. There is no "mandated text" in the common core. It basically lays out the standards. For example, students should be able to "Compare and contrast the themes, settings, and plots of stories written by the same author about the same or similar characters (e.g., in books from a series)"
That's it. It doesn't tell you what book to read, it only lays out what they should be able to get out of that book.
Materials being online has little to do with the actual common core standards and more to do with the lack of money to buy textbooks. Here in the South, most states haven't bought new books since the economy crashed in 2008-09. Hence the reliance on online materials.
Oh please! You're talking about two idiot groups that make content aligned to Common Core as if CC was a plane and they provided the engines. All your examples show is that somebody looked at the standards and then wrote some political crap to try and sell. They were probably making the same crap aligned with individual state standards a few years ago. Do you think any school systems will actually buy it?
And further, the common core is a set of general standards, not an actual curriculum. Teachers are allowed to choose works, questions, problems, and other material to teach those standards. They can also supplement by teaching things not on the common core standards.
This looks more like a way to actually monitor the real results. If the kids are fine it will go a long way towards dismissing that irrational fear. If they aren't then the fear wasn't that irrational.
A lot of school systems like the one I work for have lots of 5-6 year old PCs that we are about to have to try and upgrade to Win7. Lots of them won't make it, leaving a lot of keyboards, mice and monitors sitting around with nothing to do. This could be a very cheap option.
This drives me crazy. I live in a relatively populated but rural area of North Carolina. I'm in a subdivision that started in 2008 but didn't get built out much because of the financial crash. Because of this I can't get cable Internet (they won't run a line into the subdivision) and AT&T won't bother to expand their DSL. What I pay Verizon for a measly 10GB of wireless data a month is about the same as what Google is charging it's fiber people. Stupid legislators like this will keep me in the Internet desert for years.
My God! It's almost as if they had taken the names, phone numbers and addresses of millions of people and bound them into some sort of large book before distributing said book to everyone's home free of charge! Can you imagine the chaos such a thing might cause???
If you can come up from your fantasy of PC guvvmint censors, you will realize that these are "challenged" books. This means someone NOT in the local school district's governing body or staff (usually a parent or community member) demanded that the book be removed. And yes, this is almost ALWAYS from the "right wing."
You really think they would have thrown him in Gitmo if he had released the docs and invited reporters to park outside his house and come in to hang out and play x-box or something? What he did was to intentionally NOT face the consequences. Instead, he took an archive of sensitive data and took it straight to our two biggest international rivals. If you don't think he's dancing on Putin's strings saying exactly what Putin wants him to say, you are naive.
Yes, I'm glad we had our satellite up there making a super-cool, highly-detailed 3d map of the moon so that we could take pictures of China showing us how we can't do things like that anymore.
Agreed that his infodump was for the good. But he still acted as a traitor by running to China and Russia. If he had "big balls," he would have stayed here and faced the music. I would be standing outside the prison where they held him screaming for his release. Now, there's no telling what he gave up to some real enemies of freedom.
Agreed. I work with tech in schools and I find the iPad great for consumption, but only fair for creation. The apps themselves are making it easier as we go along, but a keyboard is always preferable, especially in upper grades.
Well, you are right that the "digital natives" thing is ovehyped. I see students all the time who can't type their way out of a paper bag. The problem we run into is that teachers at all the levels UNDER you also say "I think the emphasis on computers in education is misplaced and overhyped." I hear this all the way down to kindergarten where they say the parents should be the ones teaching kids to type, not the teachers because the emphasis on computers is misplaced. In my state, the legislature just passed a law requiring us to teach the kids cursive. If it were up to me I'd spend enough time on cursive to let them sign their name and then dive right into keyboarding. That's just me though.
Okay. This comment shows great wisdom. Technology is a tool that students WILL use when they graduate high school. We should be embracing the tools that make sense and showing kids how to use them now to solve real world problems.
That depends entirely on how the devices are used and how you want to measure progress. The problem, as with much of education in this age of "reform," is that people always want to measure how well something is working by looking at test scores. I think all that shows is how well you take a test. Still, there is some decent research. Here's one summary.
There have been some notable failures of 1:1 programs. There are other failures in progress. I think LA's iPad rollout is going to crash and burn. In most of the instances I've seen, the failures come when they throw the devices into the classroom and don't train teachers to fundamentally change the way they teach. I've seen it done right. When that happens, the teacher stops being the sage on the stage and works more as a guide while students solve problems and use a variety of tools.
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Is that common core, or you state or district's curriculum and pacing guide? There is a difference.
Then the problem is not common core, but a state-mandated scripted learning curriculum, which, I will readily agree, is full of shit. Keep in mind NY could have and probably would have done such a curriculum without common core.
You misunderstand. There is no "mandated text" in the common core. It basically lays out the standards. For example, students should be able to "Compare and contrast the themes, settings, and plots of stories written by the same author about the same or similar characters (e.g., in books from a series)"
That's it. It doesn't tell you what book to read, it only lays out what they should be able to get out of that book.
Materials being online has little to do with the actual common core standards and more to do with the lack of money to buy textbooks. Here in the South, most states haven't bought new books since the economy crashed in 2008-09. Hence the reliance on online materials.
Oh please! You're talking about two idiot groups that make content aligned to Common Core as if CC was a plane and they provided the engines. All your examples show is that somebody looked at the standards and then wrote some political crap to try and sell. They were probably making the same crap aligned with individual state standards a few years ago. Do you think any school systems will actually buy it?
And further, the common core is a set of general standards, not an actual curriculum. Teachers are allowed to choose works, questions, problems, and other material to teach those standards. They can also supplement by teaching things not on the common core standards.
Where do you live?
You had me at "antimatter-beam."
This looks more like a way to actually monitor the real results. If the kids are fine it will go a long way towards dismissing that irrational fear. If they aren't then the fear wasn't that irrational.
Umm. I'm thinking that just MIGHT have some unintended consequences.
A lot of school systems like the one I work for have lots of 5-6 year old PCs that we are about to have to try and upgrade to Win7. Lots of them won't make it, leaving a lot of keyboards, mice and monitors sitting around with nothing to do. This could be a very cheap option.
Everything should enter the public domain quicker than it does now.
This drives me crazy. I live in a relatively populated but rural area of North Carolina. I'm in a subdivision that started in 2008 but didn't get built out much because of the financial crash. Because of this I can't get cable Internet (they won't run a line into the subdivision) and AT&T won't bother to expand their DSL. What I pay Verizon for a measly 10GB of wireless data a month is about the same as what Google is charging it's fiber people. Stupid legislators like this will keep me in the Internet desert for years.
I think this is a good sign to go ahead and start building the Enterprise. Too early?
My God! It's almost as if they had taken the names, phone numbers and addresses of millions of people and bound them into some sort of large book before distributing said book to everyone's home free of charge! Can you imagine the chaos such a thing might cause???
Got any proof for that Hastings allegation, or is your tinfoil hat slipping?
If you can come up from your fantasy of PC guvvmint censors, you will realize that these are "challenged" books. This means someone NOT in the local school district's governing body or staff (usually a parent or community member) demanded that the book be removed. And yes, this is almost ALWAYS from the "right wing."
You really think they would have thrown him in Gitmo if he had released the docs and invited reporters to park outside his house and come in to hang out and play x-box or something? What he did was to intentionally NOT face the consequences. Instead, he took an archive of sensitive data and took it straight to our two biggest international rivals. If you don't think he's dancing on Putin's strings saying exactly what Putin wants him to say, you are naive.
Yes, I'm glad we had our satellite up there making a super-cool, highly-detailed 3d map of the moon so that we could take pictures of China showing us how we can't do things like that anymore.
Agreed that his infodump was for the good. But he still acted as a traitor by running to China and Russia. If he had "big balls," he would have stayed here and faced the music. I would be standing outside the prison where they held him screaming for his release. Now, there's no telling what he gave up to some real enemies of freedom.
Agreed. I work with tech in schools and I find the iPad great for consumption, but only fair for creation. The apps themselves are making it easier as we go along, but a keyboard is always preferable, especially in upper grades.
Well, you are right that the "digital natives" thing is ovehyped. I see students all the time who can't type their way out of a paper bag. The problem we run into is that teachers at all the levels UNDER you also say "I think the emphasis on computers in education is misplaced and overhyped." I hear this all the way down to kindergarten where they say the parents should be the ones teaching kids to type, not the teachers because the emphasis on computers is misplaced. In my state, the legislature just passed a law requiring us to teach the kids cursive. If it were up to me I'd spend enough time on cursive to let them sign their name and then dive right into keyboarding. That's just me though.
Okay. This comment shows great wisdom. Technology is a tool that students WILL use when they graduate high school. We should be embracing the tools that make sense and showing kids how to use them now to solve real world problems.
Wordy enough?
Sorry to have peed in your cornflakes.
That depends entirely on how the devices are used and how you want to measure progress. The problem, as with much of education in this age of "reform," is that people always want to measure how well something is working by looking at test scores. I think all that shows is how well you take a test. Still, there is some decent research. Here's one summary.
http://schooltechleadership.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/CASTLEBrief01_LaptopPrograms.pdf
There have been some notable failures of 1:1 programs. There are other failures in progress. I think LA's iPad rollout is going to crash and burn. In most of the instances I've seen, the failures come when they throw the devices into the classroom and don't train teachers to fundamentally change the way they teach. I've seen it done right. When that happens, the teacher stops being the sage on the stage and works more as a guide while students solve problems and use a variety of tools.
THIS.