excelent post. but i will hold off on modding it to add to it.
I havent seen this movie listed in anyones posts: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0093207/
Wings of Honneamise. its such a simple movie, with little action, but it was the first anime I had ever seen that had a "normal" plot. It told a story and did it extremely well, held my attention without resorting to giant robots and the like. much like some of the movies you listed.
Just wanted to through that out there... since noone else has.
still, my favorite movie might be Akira. I have seen it so many times I cant even count... The first time I saw it was in jappaneese without any sub-titles (I dont speak jappaneese) and I have seen it many many times since, every translation, every dub. I still notice something new every time.
yea... it can be a problem, especialy if you are at a very high profile company or work in a very small and specific industry. Most people would probably be able to avoid it.
Perhaps the best option would be to go ahead with it and then blackmail your boss:)
right, because everyone puts whistlebower on thier resume.
Just make up some nice correct sounding reason for leaving... what are they going to do, call your boss in prison and ask him why you dont work for him anymore?
if its a large company and they fire you, you are up for a rather large settlement in a whistle-blower/wrongfull termination lawsuit...
nothing to loose there.
a small company may would likely dissapear and would be more likely to leave you screwed...
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when I see mods like that I like to assume that it is a simple mistake....
I know, I know... its nice to pretend though:)
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this is obviously a troll... thoese couldnt be the odds that longhorn woudl have no security issues in the first month after its release because the odds of longhorn even being released by 2010 are 5000000000:1
Realy? There realy isnt any tailgating at fenway park, though this is likely due to a lack of a large parking lot. Still, Ive never heard of big tailgate parites for baseball games.
your point still stands of course, there are summer concerts as well.... parrot heads apparently hold huge tailgating parties before Jimmy Buffet concerts.
only if all the aliens are as stupid as the people who write these articles.
there are 3 planets in our solar system that are solid and reasonably close to the sun... there are also a number of gas giants... why should this be the only solar system in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE that has both.
wow... that is interesting... I wish I had mod point for you but it looks like other will take care of that.
Im very intersted in this. It seems odd that people would keep bitching at apple to open their standard when it isnt even theirs to open... you would think that one of these companies would have noticed that by now.
hum... if they control 3% of the music sales market and that is a monopoly then it follows that their 3% of the personal computer market is also a monopoly!
STOP THE PRESSES! Microsoft has been beaten... Apple officaly has a monopoly on PCs!
SWEET! I knew someday the world would come around!
well it is vaguely shaped like a powerbook... and the ones from 1.5 years ago had screens that attach like that (the Ti books not the Al books) but year... the parent is an idiot, if that is a powerbook it was painted black and had a new cover put on the back!
if you take a look at my other posts in this thread (i wont be offended if you dont want to read all that:) you will see that i agree with you completely. I belive that programs like this have a place (and they have for quite some time) but that they are not the same thing as a 4 year CS degree and calling it that is a bad idea. its deceptive to students, its deceptive to prospective employers, it weakens the value of a 4 year CS degree.
But its still necessary. I have met many people who went throug 4 years of CS and complain that they "Didnt learn anything usefull" meaning the didnt learn VB or the latest COM shit (or.NET nowadays) these people realy wanted something more like this degree... they just didnt know it.
it will be intersting to see if things like this take off, and if they can be sufficently distinct from CS programs. It will be even more interesting to see if things like this have an impact on outsourcing as well.
wether of not you uses your CS skills has alot to do with what you do when you get out of school... I will freely admin (and have) that there is a need for programs like this and that there are plenty of people who will go to things like this and make prefectly good corprate IT programmers.
hell... the people you describe in your post should realy have gone to a place like this instead of a 4 year college.
what I have a problem with is teaching people a bunch of microsoft/IBM/Sun development tools and some basic syntax and calling it a Computer Science degree. Its not and it never will be. graduates of this university will never have a real understanding of computer science.
you may not need that in your career, but Ill tell you this... much of what I studied while getting my CS degree has helped me immensely in mine, and i dont mean the time I learned about the proper syntax for a do... while loop.
this isnt computational philosophy... it isnt philosopy of language... it isnt logic. its phillosophy 101 for the business programmer.
Students examine key topics and issues in philosophy, discuss historical answers to major philosophical questions, and evaluate historical arguments for answers. Students address major questions raised in metaphysics and epistemology, including ideas about concept-formation. Students gain an overview of the various sciences related to language and meaning, including important areas of both general linguistics and semantics. Students learn the social aspects and functions of language, including Speech Act Theory. Students are introduced to central issues in ethics including moral conflicts, justice, the relationship between rightness and goodness, objective vs. subjective moral judgments, moral truth, and relativism. Students then apply their understanding of philosophy and ethics to issues facing the current workplace.
besides... its not worth it to teach a CS major phillosophy if you arent going to teach any of the core concepts of computer science.
realy though... it might be a the psycology course (also basicaly psych 101) that realy takes the cake.
interesting... you could easily think of this as a tactic against outsoursing... if there are enough of these "corprate programers" around then they wont cost as much to hire. sure they will never be as cheep as sending your shit to india, but its a hell of alot easier to mannage.
thats very dissapointing... I see they had time for healthy living but not for data stuctures and algorithims. they have space for phillosophy (!!!) but not for computer archetecture.
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sure I suppose... but in that case why not just sever the physical connection?
ill do it for half that much!
yea... I win!
excelent post. but i will hold off on modding it to add to it.
I havent seen this movie listed in anyones posts:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0093207/
Wings of Honneamise. its such a simple movie, with little action, but it was the first anime I had ever seen that had a "normal" plot. It told a story and did it extremely well, held my attention without resorting to giant robots and the like. much like some of the movies you listed.
Just wanted to through that out there... since noone else has.
still, my favorite movie might be Akira. I have seen it so many times I cant even count... The first time I saw it was in jappaneese without any sub-titles (I dont speak jappaneese) and I have seen it many many times since, every translation, every dub. I still notice something new every time.
I assumed that the whistleblower protection would fall under wrongfull termination. My bad.
Just blame it on Tbor!
yea... it can be a problem, especialy if you are at a very high profile company or work in a very small and specific industry. Most people would probably be able to avoid it.
Perhaps the best option would be to go ahead with it and then blackmail your boss
right, because everyone puts whistlebower on thier resume.
Just make up some nice correct sounding reason for leaving... what are they going to do, call your boss in prison and ask him why you dont work for him anymore?
if its a large company and they fire you, you are up for a rather large settlement in a whistle-blower/wrongfull termination lawsuit...
nothing to loose there.
a small company may would likely dissapear and would be more likely to leave you screwed...
when I see mods like that I like to assume that it is a simple mistake....
I know, I know... its nice to pretend though
this is obviously a troll... thoese couldnt be the odds that longhorn woudl have no security issues in the first month after its release because the odds of longhorn even being released by 2010 are 5000000000:1
yea. the amish are clean and efficent... not like thoese shiftless menonites
Realy? There realy isnt any tailgating at fenway park, though this is likely due to a lack of a large parking lot. Still, Ive never heard of big tailgate parites for baseball games.
your point still stands of course, there are summer concerts as well.... parrot heads apparently hold huge tailgating parties before Jimmy Buffet concerts.
only if all the aliens are as stupid as the people who write these articles.
there are 3 planets in our solar system that are solid and reasonably close to the sun... there are also a number of gas giants... why should this be the only solar system in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE that has both.
wow... that is interesting... I wish I had mod point for you but it looks like other will take care of that.
Im very intersted in this. It seems odd that people would keep bitching at apple to open their standard when it isnt even theirs to open... you would think that one of these companies would have noticed that by now.
hum... if they control 3% of the music sales market and that is a monopoly then it follows that their 3% of the personal computer market is also a monopoly!
STOP THE PRESSES! Microsoft has been beaten... Apple officaly has a monopoly on PCs!
SWEET! I knew someday the world would come around!
no need for such outlandish pricing.
a buck a song will do just fine... thats what they sell the songs for at the ITMS anyway right?
well it is vaguely shaped like a powerbook... and the ones from 1.5 years ago had screens that attach like that (the Ti books not the Al books) but year... the parent is an idiot, if that is a powerbook it was painted black and had a new cover put on the back!
maybe they just dont like seafood?
Its a shame that you choose to focus on a spelling error rather than the actual content of my posts.
thanks!
if you take a look at my other posts in this thread (i wont be offended if you dont want to read all that:) you will see that i agree with you completely. I belive that programs like this have a place (and they have for quite some time) but that they are not the same thing as a 4 year CS degree and calling it that is a bad idea. its deceptive to students, its deceptive to prospective employers, it weakens the value of a 4 year CS degree.
But its still necessary. I have met many people who went throug 4 years of CS and complain that they "Didnt learn anything usefull" meaning the didnt learn VB or the latest COM shit (or
it will be intersting to see if things like this take off, and if they can be sufficently distinct from CS programs. It will be even more interesting to see if things like this have an impact on outsourcing as well.
and computer programmers to one would assume.
but who is going to write that AI... not anybody with one of these degrees from Nortface university Id wager.
wether of not you uses your CS skills has alot to do with what you do when you get out of school... I will freely admin (and have) that there is a need for programs like this and that there are plenty of people who will go to things like this and make prefectly good corprate IT programmers.
hell... the people you describe in your post should realy have gone to a place like this instead of a 4 year college.
what I have a problem with is teaching people a bunch of microsoft/IBM/Sun development tools and some basic syntax and calling it a Computer Science degree. Its not and it never will be. graduates of this university will never have a real understanding of computer science.
you may not need that in your career, but Ill tell you this... much of what I studied while getting my CS degree has helped me immensely in mine, and i dont mean the time I learned about the proper syntax for a do... while loop.
this isnt computational philosophy... it isnt philosopy of language... it isnt logic. its phillosophy 101 for the business programmer.
Students examine key topics and issues in philosophy, discuss historical answers to major philosophical questions, and evaluate historical arguments for answers. Students address major questions raised in metaphysics and epistemology, including ideas about concept-formation. Students gain an overview of the various sciences related to language and meaning, including important areas of both general linguistics and semantics. Students learn the social aspects and functions of language, including Speech Act Theory. Students are introduced to central issues in ethics including moral conflicts, justice, the relationship between rightness and goodness, objective vs. subjective moral judgments, moral truth, and relativism. Students then apply their understanding of philosophy and ethics to issues facing the current workplace.
besides... its not worth it to teach a CS major phillosophy if you arent going to teach any of the core concepts of computer science.
realy though... it might be a the psycology course (also basicaly psych 101) that realy takes the cake.
I didnt have that problem where I was. but I suppose some places might. That is an absolute crock, but dont assume that all universites do it.
interesting... you could easily think of this as a tactic against outsoursing... if there are enough of these "corprate programers" around then they wont cost as much to hire. sure they will never be as cheep as sending your shit to india, but its a hell of alot easier to mannage.
I hadnt thought of that before.
holly crap.
thats very dissapointing... I see they had time for healthy living but not for data stuctures and algorithims. they have space for phillosophy (!!!) but not for computer archetecture.
wow. thanks for pointing out the link.