Yeah, I knew what you meant, but to me TCATB is ESR's real claim to fame. TNHD was first, but that was more an inside hacker thing, TCATB explained open source to the non-hacker.
He did write "The Cathedral And The Bazaar", which introduced the concept of open source to many a PHB. Credit where credit is due.
I don't see what damage he's doing. He's entitled to his opinion, just as Linus is entitled to his and RMS is entitled to his. I don't know if I agree with him on this GPL point, but it's an interesting opinion at least.
I'm beginning to think the dems were right in opposing the shrubs apointments. We have enough of them now, slowly carving away the rights of a free (heh) people.
It may surprise you to learn that the three most conservative members of the SCOTUS (Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas) were on the dissenting side of this decision. Any nominee Bush is likely to make probably would have voted the same way.
I don't know about you, but the way I heard it was "Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once" by the greatest rock and roll adventurer, surgeon and physicist to ever save Earth from the evil Lectroids of the Eighth Dimension.
Reminds me of "Heat Vision and Jack". It was an unproduced pilot created and directed by Ben Stiller and starring Jack Black as an ex-astronaut who is super smart under sunlight and his talking motorcycle Heat Vision voiced by Owen Wilson.
If not for Bittorrent, I'd never have seen it. I bet most people haven't even heard of it. It's funny because everyone involved is really famous now.. It's like an artifact from an alternate reality.
I don't know about that. The Court's recent decisions (Raich & Kelo) don't exactly fill me with confidence that the Supremes even understand the U.S. Constitution, much less the GPL.
Yeah, you could do that and it wouldn't violate the GPL. It would be just like when Microsoft put checks in Windows For Workgroups 3.11 to make sure it wouldn't run under DR-DOS. In other words, it would be punitive, immature, and against everything the philosophy of open source stands for, but legal.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. - Nietzsche
The source might be available, but you still wouldn't have an "Open Source" project. The OSI Open Source definition states in part 5, "No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups".
You couldn't even restrict Nazis or Al Qaeda from using your software if you want it to be considered Open Source.
If i were leading an open-source project under any open-souce license....personally, I would modify the license to specifically prohibit SCO, and any companies that SCO has ownership in, and any companies that have ownership in SCO from ever using the project's source code, binaries, trademarks, etc, in any way what so ever.
If you did that, your project would no longer be considered open source. It's like how freedom of speech isn't just for people who say things you agree with.
It has been said that with the large conglomerate ownership of media these days, that the Watergate scandal would not have come to light. Think about that for a few minutes and see where it takes you. Scary, is it not?
I thought about it, and I'm not scared in the least.
If the Watergate scandal happened today, Deep Throat wouldn't have NEEDED the large conglomerate media to get the story out, he'd have just started a blog. If you doubt that a blog could have penetrated the cover-up and conspiracy, just ask Dan Rather, he's got some nice Word documents to show you.:)
I agree, mainstream media is a joke these days, luckily there is an alternative. No one needs a big corporate monolith to get news out, we all have access to the biggest printing press there is.
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But now every single time it's: "Bush is an idiot, hee hee, Iraq whatever, blah blah blah." Yeah, we get it already.
I thought this thread was about The Onion, not Slashdot comment threads.
The irony was in the way that you leapt to assuming I'm a "typical idiot" and then complained that Americans were "quick to judge" in the next breath. If that doesn't meet your Canadian dictionary definition of irony, please excuse me, I'm an "idiot" American so I used the word in a colloquial sense. I thought the meaning would be clear to the educated reasoned citizen of the world that I assumed you were. Sorry for being so "quick to judge" that you'd understand without a pedantic explanation suitable for a small child.
Do you ever actually convince anyone to come around to your point of view by calling them names and implying that they don't know the meanings of the words they use? Because, honestly, at least in this thread, you really come off as a jackass. I'm not saying that to engage in a competition of insults, I'm just trying to raise the level of discourse a little.
All you've done in this thread is spout your stereotypes about "God save americans" and call me names like "idiot".
Sorry if it doesn't exactly endear me to paying the slightest bit of attention to whatever kind of argument you're lamely attempting to make.
I learned long ago not to bother arguing on/. with Canadians about politics. The typical resident of the People's Republic of Canada is way too "close minded" to get through to.
And yes, the ironic content in this post is entirely intentional.
You're absolutely hilarious. You spew these blatant generalizations about Americans and say we're "close minded".
Just for your information, I'm in my thirties and I've traveled all over the world. Hope you can wrap your brain around that, not that I'm saying you're "close minded". I've seen the world, and if you think the US is oppressive compared to most of the world I think *you're* the parochial one.
Shall we point out some of the lovely things the Viet gov't did to its *own* people?
No, no, you see, when the US oppresses people (by turning the AC down and playing loud rap music) it's the US government's fault, and when governments opposed to the US oppress people (by killing and maiming them) it's also the US government's fault.
Logically this makes sense, but only if you belong to what is known as the "reality based community". Apparently if there was no United States, the world would be a playground of love and understanding and puppy dogs.
Re:LOL what did I just read?!?!?
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Is there any book in existence that contains an accurate, engaging, engrossing, serious, mature, entertaining story involving hackers?
"In this book, [Fyodor of nmap fame] teamed with FX, Joe Grand, Kevin Mitnick, Ryan Russell, Jay Beale and several other hackers to write individual stories that combine to describe a massive electronic financial heist. While the work is fiction, we tried to portray realistic attacks and technology. For example, my character Sendai uses Nmap, Hping2, Ndos, and similar tools to exploit network configuration and software vulnerabilities commonly found in the wild. Many thanks to Syngress for allowing me to post this online for free."
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She dissented on both Kelo and Raich.
Yeah, I knew what you meant, but to me TCATB is ESR's real claim to fame. TNHD was first, but that was more an inside hacker thing, TCATB explained open source to the non-hacker.
He did write "The Cathedral And The Bazaar", which introduced the concept of open source to many a PHB. Credit where credit is due.
I don't see what damage he's doing. He's entitled to his opinion, just as Linus is entitled to his and RMS is entitled to his. I don't know if I agree with him on this GPL point, but it's an interesting opinion at least.
I'm beginning to think the dems were right in opposing the shrubs apointments. We have enough of them now, slowly carving away the rights of a free (heh) people.
It may surprise you to learn that the three most conservative members of the SCOTUS (Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas) were on the dissenting side of this decision. Any nominee Bush is likely to make probably would have voted the same way.
I don't know about you, but the way I heard it was "Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once" by the greatest rock and roll adventurer, surgeon and physicist to ever save Earth from the evil Lectroids of the Eighth Dimension.
All this talk of "dark deposits" and methane is making me wonder if I stumbled onto Scatdot by mistake.. :D
Comparing two companies by looking at their current stock price is like saying one computer is better than another because the case is bigger.
Look the their market caps, and how much cash reserves they have. Microsoft is sitting on a TON of money, don't count on them running out of gas.
That's unpossible!
There already exists an OS for the dumb. It's called Windows.
*rimshot*
At one point or another many great ideas have been extreme and unpopular.
And many more TERRIBLE ideas have been extreme and unpopular.
Greenpeace, like many so-called "environmental" groups, are nothing but luddites.
Reminds me of "Heat Vision and Jack". It was an unproduced pilot created and directed by Ben Stiller and starring Jack Black as an ex-astronaut who is super smart under sunlight and his talking motorcycle Heat Vision voiced by Owen Wilson.
If not for Bittorrent, I'd never have seen it. I bet most people haven't even heard of it. It's funny because everyone involved is really famous now.. It's like an artifact from an alternate reality.
You shouldn't believe everything you hear. It's generally well known, even here, that the US used to support Saddam.
I don't know about that. The Court's recent decisions (Raich & Kelo) don't exactly fill me with confidence that the Supremes even understand the U.S. Constitution, much less the GPL.
Yeah, you could do that and it wouldn't violate the GPL. It would be just like when Microsoft put checks in Windows For Workgroups 3.11 to make sure it wouldn't run under DR-DOS. In other words, it would be punitive, immature, and against everything the philosophy of open source stands for, but legal.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. - Nietzsche
The IETF has NOT approved either SPF or Sender-ID as an Internet Standard.
:) Moderators, please mod parent up.
Thank you for adding a dose of sanity to these proceedings.
Both of these so-called "standards" are harmful at best. SPF breaks email forwarding, and Sender-ID has Microsoft patent issues.
The source might be available, but you still wouldn't have an "Open Source" project. The OSI Open Source definition states in part 5, "No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups".
You couldn't even restrict Nazis or Al Qaeda from using your software if you want it to be considered Open Source.
If i were leading an open-source project under any open-souce license....personally, I would modify the license to specifically prohibit SCO, and any companies that SCO has ownership in, and any companies that have ownership in SCO from ever using the project's source code, binaries, trademarks, etc, in any way what so ever.
If you did that, your project would no longer be considered open source. It's like how freedom of speech isn't just for people who say things you agree with.
It has been said that with the large conglomerate ownership of media these days, that the Watergate scandal would not have come to light. Think about that for a few minutes and see where it takes you. Scary, is it not?
:)
I thought about it, and I'm not scared in the least.
If the Watergate scandal happened today, Deep Throat wouldn't have NEEDED the large conglomerate media to get the story out, he'd have just started a blog. If you doubt that a blog could have penetrated the cover-up and conspiracy, just ask Dan Rather, he's got some nice Word documents to show you.
I agree, mainstream media is a joke these days, luckily there is an alternative. No one needs a big corporate monolith to get news out, we all have access to the biggest printing press there is.
But now every single time it's: "Bush is an idiot, hee hee, Iraq whatever, blah blah blah." Yeah, we get it already.
I thought this thread was about The Onion, not Slashdot comment threads.
The irony was in the way that you leapt to assuming I'm a "typical idiot" and then complained that Americans were "quick to judge" in the next breath. If that doesn't meet your Canadian dictionary definition of irony, please excuse me, I'm an "idiot" American so I used the word in a colloquial sense. I thought the meaning would be clear to the educated reasoned citizen of the world that I assumed you were. Sorry for being so "quick to judge" that you'd understand without a pedantic explanation suitable for a small child.
Do you ever actually convince anyone to come around to your point of view by calling them names and implying that they don't know the meanings of the words they use? Because, honestly, at least in this thread, you really come off as a jackass. I'm not saying that to engage in a competition of insults, I'm just trying to raise the level of discourse a little.
All you've done in this thread is spout your stereotypes about "God save americans" and call me names like "idiot".
/. with Canadians about politics. The typical resident of the People's Republic of Canada is way too "close minded" to get through to.
Sorry if it doesn't exactly endear me to paying the slightest bit of attention to whatever kind of argument you're lamely attempting to make.
I learned long ago not to bother arguing on
And yes, the ironic content in this post is entirely intentional.
You're absolutely hilarious. You spew these blatant generalizations about Americans and say we're "close minded".
Just for your information, I'm in my thirties and I've traveled all over the world. Hope you can wrap your brain around that, not that I'm saying you're "close minded". I've seen the world, and if you think the US is oppressive compared to most of the world I think *you're* the parochial one.
As a typical idiot you missed the point. The point was that Americans are often too quick to judge..
+1, ironic.
Shall we point out some of the lovely things the Viet gov't did to its *own* people?
No, no, you see, when the US oppresses people (by turning the AC down and playing loud rap music) it's the US government's fault, and when governments opposed to the US oppress people (by killing and maiming them) it's also the US government's fault.
Logically this makes sense, but only if you belong to what is known as the "reality based community". Apparently if there was no United States, the world would be a playground of love and understanding and puppy dogs.
I haven't read anything but the free sample chapter, but Stealing the Network: How to Own a Continent might fit the bill.