That didn't happen in either instance, nor did I ever say it did.
I was referring to the facts that, in both occurances, "minor issues" completely disabled the cars until a Tesla engineer showed up to update the car's firmware. I was also pointing out that if the driver is not a famous car presenter/reviewer, they will most likely not be given the same level of service.
So, instead of being a smart-mouthed apologist, maybe you should pull your head out of Elon Musks ass and actually look at the facts. The final decision in the Top Gear legal case would be a good place to start.
It most certainly did happen. The car told him it could go X miles. He tried to drive it X + Y miles. That is what directly led to the failure of the battery powering the parking brake and other "accessory" systems.
I'm not being an apologist for anyone here. Personally I think this type of electric car will probably fail, but I'm not going to let my personall feelings override the actual facts in order to get a cheep shot in. He actually admitted that the car said it could go fewer miles than he tried to drive it, then wrote a bad review about how it left him sitting. If someone tried to do that with a standard car he would be laughed out of the review industry.
Sure, the Tessla support people gave him bad information, but that isn't what he complained about in the review. And like you said, a normal person won't even have access to that level of support. The only information they will have to go on is what the dashboard tells them, if they don't listen to that then it's their own fault, not the car's.
Also, in both those situations, Tesla engineers had to be consulted. Easy enough for a NYT auto reporter or UK car show hosts, but what about the regular Joe's that they're selling these things to?
I think the average Joe would be perfectly capable of looking at the dashboard telling him the car is charged to a range of 30km and then not trying to drive it 60km. If you really need to a call an engineer to figure that out then you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm not defending MAFIAA in any way, but just want to point out, that the study was conducted under circumstances when file sharing is illegal.
If it becomes legal, it may very well impact the sales in a negative way. Bottom line: interesting study, no practical applications.
This doesn't necessarily mean that sharing music should become legal, it just means that it shouldn't be life-ruiningly-illegal. Speeding is illegal, but if you get caught you just get a small fine and life goes on. They don't fine you more than 10x your yearly income and stick you with legal fees that could bankrupt CEOs.
I'm assuming the industrial waste water treatment plants actually charge for the service of treating this water, most likely as defined in a contract. This isn't typical residential or commercial water treatment. Once the plant takes delivery of the water hasn't it become the treatment plant's problem (as long as the water meets what they are contractually obligated to treat)? The plant should not be taking delivery of the water if they can't properly treat it. If they need more / better equipment to treat the water they need to adjust the price that they charge the fracking operation to treat the water to cover the costs. Now if the fracking water contains pollutants above and beyond what it's supposed to contain via contract and the treatment plant wasn't informed it's a completely different story.
It's sort of like blaming me if I put out perfectly normal trash and my garbage service picks it up and dumps it in to a river instead of a landfill.
I'm sorry but you, sir, are wrong. Even the Verizon GNex has an easily unlockable boot loader and VERY good Cyanogenmod support. It absolutely can have the latest firmware, and easily so.
CyanogenMod isn't provided by Google, it's an independent project. The root of this thread was about Google providing updates, so it doesn't really count in this discussion.
Ah yes, the fad diet advice. Losing weight is fairly scientific--if you ingest more calories than you spend, you gain weight. To lose it, you have to do the other direction.
I agree with you 100%, but some people believe that our bodies are magic little fairy kingdoms where the laws of physics no longer apply. I've had many arguments with otherwise rational people who just don't seem to get it.
The other problem is that they don't actually nickle and dime you, they $1 and $5 you. They never seem to understand the "micro" part of micro transaction.
The only ones who really wins in a class action lawsuit are the lawyers. The customers would end up with some lame EA credit or a few bucks back at best.
Much better at least to *try* to work with EA/Maxis on resolving the issues first - so far they are offering a free game to everyone registering by 3/18 (which is at least as much as a class action would get, without lining the pockets of the only people I can think of who are sleazier than EA execs - class action attorneys). And hey, they may still actually fix the issues, add new features, and eventually make it a decent game...
but I agree with you on the silly release day impulse/frenzy - I never bought the new Simcity because I waited a couple days, read the reviews (which often trashed the game even when it worked as intended), saw the issues, and stayed clear. How hard was that?
One again, class action lawsuits aren't about winning tons of money. They are about punishing the bad behavior of the offending party to get them to change their ways.
Why would having a colony in Mars actually be better than having a colony in space instead?
A colony on Mars would have access to planetary resources, such as ice, to provide water, oxygen, and hydrogen. The settlement could also theoretically be excavated below the surface and covered with "soil" to provide better radiation shielding. The presence of an atmosphere, even if it's a lot less than Earth's, gives at least a little bit of safety and time to respond to life support emergencies than a space station would. It would act as the first stage for longer term, higher population, colonization than could be supported on a space station.
I know most of the answers I give out on StackOverflow are really just paraphrased MSDN documentation. StackOverflow just acts like a new aggregator in that sense I guess. It's not the source of information, but a place where information from other places comes together.
I think what's going to come out of it is that the contracts with carriers will be re-written. When you "buy" your smartphone at a discounted price from a carrier by all means they should own the carrier lock as it protects their "investment" into subsidizing the handset in hopes of making it back with profit (albeit disproportionately large profit) on your contract. Until your contract period is in place, I don't see why it should be allowed for you switch carriers?
That's why you get charged an ETF for breaking the contract early. The ETF is supposed to make up for the part of the subsidy that hasn't been paid back yet.
Three Mile Island wasn't reassuring either. The reason why it blew, you may recall, is that a relief valve, made by Dresser, failed. It had a classic design flaw, a piston diameter that was too large for its length, like a wide window that gets wedged into the frame when you try to open it. This valve had been tested before -- and failed, about 2% of the time. Scientific American, itself a nuclear power advocate, had a good article about this.
Three Mile Island didn't "blow". I (and thousands of others) wouldn't be living within 20 miles of the place right now if it had.
The difference between those who have access to fast connections and those who have only dial-up speeds or access via a cellphone is "bigger than people think," he said.
Quick. Name three people you know (not just people you've heard of) who fall into the above category because "fast connections" are not physically available to them.
My Uncle Frank, my friend Diedre's parents (I've met them), and my friend Darrun. You probably don't know them.
They sent the update once, didn't they? Wait till you are satisfied it worked, and shunt it over to computer B.
I'm fairly sure that they purposely keep the computers out of sync to avoid a single bug taking out both systems. If I recall, it actually has 3 computers, 2 of them have identical hardware that run different versions of the same software, and a 3rd computer based on completely different hardware running yet another software package. Each system is able to assume command of the mission and issue updates to the other systems.
Hard to imagine Google missing something fundamental? No it's not. Sure, Google's business is powered by search, but consider the age of the papers they'd have had to read to know about Steve Mann's work. 30 years? The engineers fooling with Google Glass are younger than the papers in question.:P Which means they suffer from that peculiar brand of cognitive myopia that afflicts their whole generation: if it's not digital, it doesn't exist.
I think what that comment meant was that with all the people in and around Google that have used these glasses for extended periods of time it's hard to imagine that there are any serious problems that haven't been reported by these users. It's not like they haven't been testing them extensively.
You said that you want feature AND updates and therefore chose Android. That's a contradiction. Be honest: most Android phones (except Nexus devices) won't get updates and when they get updates (after many moons) the update itself is often outdated.
If you can do your work from home, it's probable that someone else can do the work from the other side of the planet. For less. So be careful what you wish for.
And if you can do it from an office, it's probable that it can be done from an office on the other side of the planet. For less
Want a simple correlation? If you force gun owners to register their purchase, and then hold the registered owner responsible for any crimes committed with that gun. Bring that up in a trial and then get your popcorn as your local politician tries to explain his loyalty to both sides.
A single IP can be used by many people at the same time. Some of them can even be out of sight of each other. This doesn't hold true for guns.
First define "unwanted" and then tell me how you determine them without them actually happening? Let's say for instance they cross pollinate with another crop and sterilize that crop as well. Which in turn cross pollinates ad nauseum until there are no fertile seeds. Far fetched perhaps but not unthinkable.
If we are going to talk about the definition of words you may want to start "sterilize", because I think you might be using it wrong.
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So basically they walked down the street checking door to see which ones were unlocked then looked inside the unlocked houses?
It would be like walking down a street and peeking in to public restaurant to see what's on the menu.
That didn't happen in either instance, nor did I ever say it did.
I was referring to the facts that, in both occurances, "minor issues" completely disabled the cars until a Tesla engineer showed up to update the car's firmware. I was also pointing out that if the driver is not a famous car presenter/reviewer, they will most likely not be given the same level of service.
So, instead of being a smart-mouthed apologist, maybe you should pull your head out of Elon Musks ass and actually look at the facts. The final decision in the Top Gear legal case would be a good place to start.
It most certainly did happen. The car told him it could go X miles. He tried to drive it X + Y miles. That is what directly led to the failure of the battery powering the parking brake and other "accessory" systems.
I'm not being an apologist for anyone here. Personally I think this type of electric car will probably fail, but I'm not going to let my personall feelings override the actual facts in order to get a cheep shot in. He actually admitted that the car said it could go fewer miles than he tried to drive it, then wrote a bad review about how it left him sitting. If someone tried to do that with a standard car he would be laughed out of the review industry.
Sure, the Tessla support people gave him bad information, but that isn't what he complained about in the review. And like you said, a normal person won't even have access to that level of support. The only information they will have to go on is what the dashboard tells them, if they don't listen to that then it's their own fault, not the car's.
Also, in both those situations, Tesla engineers had to be consulted. Easy enough for a NYT auto reporter or UK car show hosts, but what about the regular Joe's that they're selling these things to?
I think the average Joe would be perfectly capable of looking at the dashboard telling him the car is charged to a range of 30km and then not trying to drive it 60km. If you really need to a call an engineer to figure that out then you probably shouldn't be driving.
I'm not defending MAFIAA in any way, but just want to point out, that the study was conducted under circumstances when file sharing is illegal.
If it becomes legal, it may very well impact the sales in a negative way. Bottom line: interesting study, no practical applications.
This doesn't necessarily mean that sharing music should become legal, it just means that it shouldn't be life-ruiningly-illegal. Speeding is illegal, but if you get caught you just get a small fine and life goes on. They don't fine you more than 10x your yearly income and stick you with legal fees that could bankrupt CEOs.
I'm assuming the industrial waste water treatment plants actually charge for the service of treating this water, most likely as defined in a contract. This isn't typical residential or commercial water treatment. Once the plant takes delivery of the water hasn't it become the treatment plant's problem (as long as the water meets what they are contractually obligated to treat)? The plant should not be taking delivery of the water if they can't properly treat it. If they need more / better equipment to treat the water they need to adjust the price that they charge the fracking operation to treat the water to cover the costs. Now if the fracking water contains pollutants above and beyond what it's supposed to contain via contract and the treatment plant wasn't informed it's a completely different story.
It's sort of like blaming me if I put out perfectly normal trash and my garbage service picks it up and dumps it in to a river instead of a landfill.
I'm sorry but you, sir, are wrong. Even the Verizon GNex has an easily unlockable boot loader and VERY good Cyanogenmod support. It absolutely can have the latest firmware, and easily so.
CyanogenMod isn't provided by Google, it's an independent project. The root of this thread was about Google providing updates, so it doesn't really count in this discussion.
Ah yes, the fad diet advice. Losing weight is fairly scientific--if you ingest more calories than you spend, you gain weight. To lose it, you have to do the other direction.
I agree with you 100%, but some people believe that our bodies are magic little fairy kingdoms where the laws of physics no longer apply. I've had many arguments with otherwise rational people who just don't seem to get it.
The other problem is that they don't actually nickle and dime you, they $1 and $5 you. They never seem to understand the "micro" part of micro transaction.
The only ones who really wins in a class action lawsuit are the lawyers. The customers would end up with some lame EA credit or a few bucks back at best.
Much better at least to *try* to work with EA/Maxis on resolving the issues first - so far they are offering a free game to everyone registering by 3/18 (which is at least as much as a class action would get, without lining the pockets of the only people I can think of who are sleazier than EA execs - class action attorneys). And hey, they may still actually fix the issues, add new features, and eventually make it a decent game...
but I agree with you on the silly release day impulse/frenzy - I never bought the new Simcity because I waited a couple days, read the reviews (which often trashed the game even when it worked as intended), saw the issues, and stayed clear. How hard was that?
One again, class action lawsuits aren't about winning tons of money. They are about punishing the bad behavior of the offending party to get them to change their ways.
Why would having a colony in Mars actually be better than having a colony in space instead?
A colony on Mars would have access to planetary resources, such as ice, to provide water, oxygen, and hydrogen. The settlement could also theoretically be excavated below the surface and covered with "soil" to provide better radiation shielding. The presence of an atmosphere, even if it's a lot less than Earth's, gives at least a little bit of safety and time to respond to life support emergencies than a space station would. It would act as the first stage for longer term, higher population, colonization than could be supported on a space station.
Why are we considering new TLDs to begin with? We're taking a good, loose system of categorisation and throwing it away because... why exactly?
Because it didn't work. How many websites do you know of that have the .org or .net domains that actually belong there?
I know most of the answers I give out on StackOverflow are really just paraphrased MSDN documentation. StackOverflow just acts like a new aggregator in that sense I guess. It's not the source of information, but a place where information from other places comes together.
Ethics are NP Hard, good luck with that.
I think what's going to come out of it is that the contracts with carriers will be re-written.
When you "buy" your smartphone at a discounted price from a carrier by all means they should own the carrier lock as it protects their "investment" into subsidizing the handset in hopes of making it back with profit (albeit disproportionately large profit) on your contract. Until your contract period is in place, I don't see why it should be allowed for you switch carriers?
That's why you get charged an ETF for breaking the contract early. The ETF is supposed to make up for the part of the subsidy that hasn't been paid back yet.
Three Mile Island wasn't reassuring either. The reason why it blew, you may recall, is that a relief valve, made by Dresser, failed. It had a classic design flaw, a piston diameter that was too large for its length, like a wide window that gets wedged into the frame when you try to open it. This valve had been tested before -- and failed, about 2% of the time. Scientific American, itself a nuclear power advocate, had a good article about this.
Three Mile Island didn't "blow". I (and thousands of others) wouldn't be living within 20 miles of the place right now if it had.
The difference between those who have access to fast connections and those who have only dial-up speeds or access via a cellphone is "bigger than people think," he said.
Quick. Name three people you know (not just people you've heard of) who fall into the above category because "fast connections" are not physically available to them.
My Uncle Frank, my friend Diedre's parents (I've met them), and my friend Darrun. You probably don't know them.
Yea cause heavily regulated utilities are such a great example of efficient operation as well as champions of innovation.
I don't want innovation from my ISP. All I want from them is an unfiltered, public IP Address, at the bandwidth they advertised.
They sent the update once, didn't they?
Wait till you are satisfied it worked, and shunt it over to computer B.
I'm fairly sure that they purposely keep the computers out of sync to avoid a single bug taking out both systems. If I recall, it actually has 3 computers, 2 of them have identical hardware that run different versions of the same software, and a 3rd computer based on completely different hardware running yet another software package. Each system is able to assume command of the mission and issue updates to the other systems.
Hard to imagine Google missing something fundamental? No it's not. Sure, Google's business is powered by search, but consider the age of the papers they'd have had to read to know about Steve Mann's work. 30 years? The engineers fooling with Google Glass are younger than the papers in question. :P Which means they suffer from that peculiar brand of cognitive myopia that afflicts their whole generation: if it's not digital, it doesn't exist.
I think what that comment meant was that with all the people in and around Google that have used these glasses for extended periods of time it's hard to imagine that there are any serious problems that haven't been reported by these users. It's not like they haven't been testing them extensively.
You said that you want feature AND updates and therefore chose Android. That's a contradiction. Be honest: most Android phones (except Nexus devices) won't get updates and when they get updates (after many moons) the update itself is often outdated.
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If you can do your work from home, it's probable that someone else can do the work from the other side of the planet. For less. So be careful what you wish for.
And if you can do it from an office, it's probable that it can be done from an office on the other side of the planet. For less
I guess I should have made the key part of my statement bold. That being the "at the same time" part.
Want a simple correlation? If you force gun owners to register their purchase, and then hold the registered owner responsible for any crimes committed with that gun. Bring that up in a trial and then get your popcorn as your local politician tries to explain his loyalty to both sides.
A single IP can be used by many people at the same time. Some of them can even be out of sight of each other. This doesn't hold true for guns.
First define "unwanted" and then tell me how you determine them without them actually happening? Let's say for instance they cross pollinate with another crop and sterilize that crop as well. Which in turn cross pollinates ad nauseum until there are no fertile seeds. Far fetched perhaps but not unthinkable.
If we are going to talk about the definition of words you may want to start "sterilize", because I think you might be using it wrong.
I think I'll stick with the actual definition of "Tax" if that's ok.