Hmmm... I do a lot of work in PHP and haven't had *too much* trouble with this. It has been fairly simple, actually. Where things get tricky is web server environments (not getting consistent variables in $_SERVER - SELF, etc.) and various configuration restraints that some hosts seem to think they need for security's sake. I've done work on a fairly significant script that runs on most version of PHP from 4.3 to 5.2 (a few exceptions of versions in there that are notoriously buggy).
Hmmm... maybe it is a unique service, but I know that we have such a service here for home phones. See: Bell Call Privacy (sorry for their horribly undescriptive page, but basically the idea is that if you have call display blocked, it will ask you to key in a number in order to be connected.)
What has always surprised me (and I know this is slightly off-topic since the topic seems to be about cell phones and not PSTN) is that no enterprising phone device manufacturer has built an inexpensive phone that allows you to filter calls based on phone numbers, or change ringtones. Caller ID is pretty widespread, and I can't imagine the technology to do filtering would be much more expensive to implement. You'd probably want to make it configured over a USB port on a PC, but with the recent response to Canada's national do not call list I would think there would be at least some people interested in spending an extra $10 on a phone that had such a feature.
No, you never had the freedom to do that in the first place, so how can the GPL restrict a freedom you never had (which is what gp was saying). "at least as compared to unlicensed copyrighted media"
[quote]The governing Conservatives actually convinced people that it was undemocratic for the opposition parties to form a government.[/quote] You make it sound as if the conservatives manipulated the situation... The fact is, IMO, that most Canadians would *not* want the coalition, apart from any sort of spin any of the parties would have put on it.
The Conservatives may have highlighted this as a democracy issue, but I don't think they manipulated anybody into being against the coalition.
Huh? Even if we accept 'One reason the mac operating system runs so well is because apple has complete control over the hardware it runs on', then it is not given that 'The market place would be better off if apple won this lawsuit'. Apple's genius is only in its marketing, and surely they could market in such a way that this would encourage people to buy 'genuine Apple'.
Anyways, IME, Apple's products are not flawless - my wife owns an iPod Video and it is no end of grief - randomly locking up, short battery life. Yech. The sync process is delicate - if not done exactly right, trouble ensures.
How can more choice be bad for the marketplace, especially when people already think Apple makes quality products?
But even if they win, Apple will probably pull some crap about only being supported on their hardware. As much as I dislike Apple, that would seem justified for them to attempt - they shouldn't have to support other, unexpected hardware. Should it be their responsibility to make sure that every piece of hardware out there has OS/X drivers?
Actually, they do have a monopoly. If you buy an Mac you have to buy parts from Apple; Says who? From what I can tell, you can get a lot of parts for Apple's version of the PC - they are now the same as anybody else's.
According to WSJ, "thereâ(TM)s a three-application limit on the starter edition of Windows Vista, Microsoftâ(TM)s current installment of Windows, but that product is only sold in emerging markets".
Of course those person's taxes count... And, sure they should get treatment. But, they should also realize that lung cancer is an expensive thing to treat, and this treatment will result in higher taxes for the rest of society.
Tobacco: Smoked at home, or outdoors away from crowds (regular air pollution is far worse)
Eventually, that person's health will deteriorate, and my taxes will have to pay for the additional care required.
Cannabis: When vaporized or eaten
See above.
Alcohol: Drank at home, and didn't go out to drive
See above.
Not saying that should be an argument against it, as lots of people do lots of things that cause their health to deteriorate, but, that is how a 3rd party is affected.
I believe he covered that under: "unless there's a specific thing you want to see outside of its borders". Anyhow, many people are quite content without seeing those things, and will go their whole lives without doing so.
Well, RAM seems like a totally different situation, because it is generally trivial to add or remove ram, while swapping out a notebook LCD is much more difficult and involved.
This is very interesting to me because I've never owned a glossy screen laptop. Mine have always been matte. I have seen others with glossy screens and admittedly they looked 'shiny'. Never really used them though.
I don't think anybody is saying Apple is a charity. But, the discussion at hand is if Apple is giving good value for the extra money they are charging. The conclusion seems to be a resounding no - they are charging $50 (or whatever the number is), for what is apparently an extra $1 cost for them.
Nobody expects Apple to give away their hardware, but this is the age old complaint against Apple that they offer the base package for a not completely unreasonable cost, but the small upgrades are exhorbitantly priced.
Similar to printer companies that price the printer cheap but overprice the toner and ink cartridges (and DRM them, in some cases).
This seems like an appropriate place to throw this one out... it baffles me why nobody has capitalized on this opportunity. It shouldn't be *that* expensive to design a telephone that has call display that will allow you to block calls from unknown numbers, or at least forward them to voice mail, or do something.
I mean, there is asterisk, but that is out of the budget and hard to configure for the average consumer. I would think there would be big money to be made there, with low development costs.
I knew you could install a deb from the browser... What I was referring to the fact is that we have tutorials all over the place like http://fosswire.com/2007/05/29/installing-and-configuring-lamp-on-ubuntu-part-1/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP that instruct users to do drop to the terminal and install the packages using sudo apt-get. I wasn't certain you could trigger an apt-get from the browser, but, other replies have shown that you can. So, given that this is the case, why do we have tutorials like this?
Having users download and install random debs from all over the place isn't necessarily a good idea for fairly obvious reasons. But, if you can set up a system with standard trusted software repositories (which is already done), it should be fairly safe to have users click a link that will cause a package from their already stored repository settings to be installed.
Of course you can do all this from Add/Remove Programs or from Synaptic from the administration menu. But I would argue that both are a lot more cumbersome (maybe it is just me), and hard to wade through than just clicking a link in the browser and it happening. Maybe that is just me.
I wonder how hard it would be to make it possible to do links in a browser that install packages. Of course, you would need the appropriate messages and user interaction, but, say you could have an instruction page that says: Install [Apache] [PHP5] [MySQL]. The user clicks on Apache in their browser, it opens a package manager, and prompts them to confirm they actually want to install it. Sure, there are security issues, to work through, but in terms of ease of use, it wouldn't get much better than that.
I want to install Gimp? okay, Google gimp ubuntu Get SER ranking so it is the first entry. I go to that page (hosted at ubuntu.com). It has a link 'Install GIMP on Ubuntu'. I click the link. It prompts, I say yes, it installs, and it shows up in my Applications menu.
If I were Yahoo and MSN, I would find a way to make my site stop working through the portal. Would this mean that subscribers would have to cough up their passwords to the portal? Certainly seems like a security risk to me.
So... what you're saying is that because here in Canada we can get some products cheaper that are manufactured in the U.S. than products that are manufactured in Canada, that there is exploitation going on? I don't think the issue is as black and white as you make it out to be.
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Hmmm... I do a lot of work in PHP and haven't had *too much* trouble with this. It has been fairly simple, actually. Where things get tricky is web server environments (not getting consistent variables in $_SERVER - SELF, etc.) and various configuration restraints that some hosts seem to think they need for security's sake. I've done work on a fairly significant script that runs on most version of PHP from 4.3 to 5.2 (a few exceptions of versions in there that are notoriously buggy).
Well, what changed? Quicktime or Sims 2?
Hmmm... maybe it is a unique service, but I know that we have such a service here for home phones. See: Bell Call Privacy (sorry for their horribly undescriptive page, but basically the idea is that if you have call display blocked, it will ask you to key in a number in order to be connected.)
What has always surprised me (and I know this is slightly off-topic since the topic seems to be about cell phones and not PSTN) is that no enterprising phone device manufacturer has built an inexpensive phone that allows you to filter calls based on phone numbers, or change ringtones. Caller ID is pretty widespread, and I can't imagine the technology to do filtering would be much more expensive to implement. You'd probably want to make it configured over a USB port on a PC, but with the recent response to Canada's national do not call list I would think there would be at least some people interested in spending an extra $10 on a phone that had such a feature.
If the one partner is truly abusive, then why are we letting them visit children?
No, you never had the freedom to do that in the first place, so how can the GPL restrict a freedom you never had (which is what gp was saying). "at least as compared to unlicensed copyrighted media"
[quote]The governing Conservatives actually convinced people that it was undemocratic for the opposition parties to form a government.[/quote]
You make it sound as if the conservatives manipulated the situation... The fact is, IMO, that most Canadians would *not* want the coalition, apart from any sort of spin any of the parties would have put on it.
The Conservatives may have highlighted this as a democracy issue, but I don't think they manipulated anybody into being against the coalition.
Huh? Even if we accept 'One reason the mac operating system runs so well is because apple has complete control over the hardware it runs on', then it is not given that 'The market place would be better off if apple won this lawsuit'. Apple's genius is only in its marketing, and surely they could market in such a way that this would encourage people to buy 'genuine Apple'.
Anyways, IME, Apple's products are not flawless - my wife owns an iPod Video and it is no end of grief - randomly locking up, short battery life. Yech. The sync process is delicate - if not done exactly right, trouble ensures.
How can more choice be bad for the marketplace, especially when people already think Apple makes quality products?
But even if they win, Apple will probably pull some crap about only being supported on their hardware.
As much as I dislike Apple, that would seem justified for them to attempt - they shouldn't have to support other, unexpected hardware. Should it be their responsibility to make sure that every piece of hardware out there has OS/X drivers?
Actually, they do have a monopoly. If you buy an Mac you have to buy parts from Apple;
Says who? From what I can tell, you can get a lot of parts for Apple's version of the PC - they are now the same as anybody else's.
According to WSJ, "thereâ(TM)s a three-application limit on the starter edition of Windows Vista, Microsoftâ(TM)s current installment of Windows, but that product is only sold in emerging markets".
Of course those person's taxes count... And, sure they should get treatment. But, they should also realize that lung cancer is an expensive thing to treat, and this treatment will result in higher taxes for the rest of society.
Tobacco: Smoked at home, or outdoors away from crowds (regular air pollution is far worse)
Eventually, that person's health will deteriorate, and my taxes will have to pay for the additional care required.
Cannabis: When vaporized or eaten
See above.
Alcohol: Drank at home, and didn't go out to drive
See above.
Not saying that should be an argument against it, as lots of people do lots of things that cause their health to deteriorate, but, that is how a 3rd party is affected.
I believe he covered that under: "unless there's a specific thing you want to see outside of its borders". Anyhow, many people are quite content without seeing those things, and will go their whole lives without doing so.
Well, RAM seems like a totally different situation, because it is generally trivial to add or remove ram, while swapping out a notebook LCD is much more difficult and involved.
This is very interesting to me because I've never owned a glossy screen laptop. Mine have always been matte. I have seen others with glossy screens and admittedly they looked 'shiny'. Never really used them though.
Now I know to stay away.
I don't think anybody is saying Apple is a charity. But, the discussion at hand is if Apple is giving good value for the extra money they are charging. The conclusion seems to be a resounding no - they are charging $50 (or whatever the number is), for what is apparently an extra $1 cost for them.
Nobody expects Apple to give away their hardware, but this is the age old complaint against Apple that they offer the base package for a not completely unreasonable cost, but the small upgrades are exhorbitantly priced.
Similar to printer companies that price the printer cheap but overprice the toner and ink cartridges (and DRM them, in some cases).
This seems like an appropriate place to throw this one out... it baffles me why nobody has capitalized on this opportunity. It shouldn't be *that* expensive to design a telephone that has call display that will allow you to block calls from unknown numbers, or at least forward them to voice mail, or do something.
I mean, there is asterisk, but that is out of the budget and hard to configure for the average consumer. I would think there would be big money to be made there, with low development costs.
Not all phones have lots of memory now... somehow I wouldn't bet on this being the case two years from now.
What does battery filure leading to total data loss have to do with it being a solid state device?
I knew you could install a deb from the browser... What I was referring to the fact is that we have tutorials all over the place like http://fosswire.com/2007/05/29/installing-and-configuring-lamp-on-ubuntu-part-1/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP that instruct users to do drop to the terminal and install the packages using sudo apt-get. I wasn't certain you could trigger an apt-get from the browser, but, other replies have shown that you can. So, given that this is the case, why do we have tutorials like this?
Having users download and install random debs from all over the place isn't necessarily a good idea for fairly obvious reasons. But, if you can set up a system with standard trusted software repositories (which is already done), it should be fairly safe to have users click a link that will cause a package from their already stored repository settings to be installed.
Of course you can do all this from Add/Remove Programs or from Synaptic from the administration menu. But I would argue that both are a lot more cumbersome (maybe it is just me), and hard to wade through than just clicking a link in the browser and it happening. Maybe that is just me.
okay... so why aren't all the tutorials done this way? Rather than instructing users to enter commands at the terminal...
But I don't want to download *your* DEB file, I want to use the one from the standard repository. Does it do that?
I wonder how hard it would be to make it possible to do links in a browser that install packages. Of course, you would need the appropriate messages and user interaction, but, say you could have an instruction page that says: Install [Apache] [PHP5] [MySQL]. The user clicks on Apache in their browser, it opens a package manager, and prompts them to confirm they actually want to install it. Sure, there are security issues, to work through, but in terms of ease of use, it wouldn't get much better than that.
I want to install Gimp? okay, Google gimp ubuntu
Get SER ranking so it is the first entry. I go to that page (hosted at ubuntu.com). It has a link 'Install GIMP on Ubuntu'. I click the link. It prompts, I say yes, it installs, and it shows up in my Applications menu.
If I were Yahoo and MSN, I would find a way to make my site stop working through the portal. Would this mean that subscribers would have to cough up their passwords to the portal? Certainly seems like a security risk to me.
So... what you're saying is that because here in Canada we can get some products cheaper that are manufactured in the U.S. than products that are manufactured in Canada, that there is exploitation going on? I don't think the issue is as black and white as you make it out to be.