He's wrong. The RHEL product manager doesn't speak for Fedora.
It was a She at the time, not a He. Also, you might want to mention this to Red Hat because the net result of that conversation was Fedora being banned by my boss within an international investment bank, even for sysadmin desktops.
That depends on your needs. For folks who want 7 years of support, RHEL is a good choice. For folks who don't need that (or don't care about that), Fedora is perfectly capable of being a production environment, at least for a year.
No production system should be based around a 1 year lifespan.
I can't flamebait you coz I don't have modpoints, so I'll reply instead.
The real problem here for Lik-sang is that precedent has been set. This means that now Sony can sue them for selling Japanese X-boxes to the UK. Nintendo could sue them for selling the Wii to the UK.
Lawsuits aren't cheap - I'm sure if you offered to fund all future lawsuits that are brought against them, they'd be happy to stay open. No? didn't think so.
Maybe you can help me... Can you recommend decent sunglasses for someone with -6 vision in both eyes? I've been to a load of opticians in the UK and none of them can help me.
Believe me, I recognise the stupid. Our particular former president is not much of an improvement, and he's not altogether gone yet either; the current guy is doing an *okay* job -- nothing stellar, and no Nobel Prizes.
What worries me is that the man who raped, er, had consensual sex* with this woman with no protection is very likely to be SA's next president. His long time accomplice is currently doing a healthy stretch for corruption. And yet his party still actively support him.
Even if you drop the corruption charges, you're still talking about a man who believes it's ok to have unprotected sex with aids carriers as long as you have a shower afterwards. I mean really, WTF? What hope is there for the masses with this kind of mind in charge?
But coming back to the point: I'd still rather live in Namibia than New Jersey.
5 years ago, I would have traded anything in the world with you to get your place in the USA. Hell, I even quite like Jersey from what I've seen of it:) Today, I don't even go there on holiday any more:(
And government incompentence and corruption is simmering quite nicely could just as easily describe the current US administration, no?
No, it couldn't. The US pot has boiled over. They're brazenly corrupt and evil.
I tried making a difference, I really did, but I couldn't take it any more so I left. I was tired of being racially discriminated against for work because of the sins of my father and his father. I was tired of living in a country where the minister for law and order says 'If you dont like the crime, leave'. I was tired of living in a place where the proposed government cure for aids is to eat your vegetables and have a shower after raping an HIV positive woman. You might recognise this country as you live right next door:)
As for places like Zimbabwe, I don't believe there is hope for the simple reason that the people don't fully understand democracy. Same goes for SA really. A lot of people (and I've seen this first hand, doing education and charity work in rural areas) believe that democracy means you are free to vote for the guy who you're told to vote for by your local chief. Until true individual democracy is understood and embraced, these people can't change their fates.
Hope can only exist when the people you trust to provide things actually come through. All the sales of red ipods in the world don't mean jack shit when the government spends the money on Sarafina 2.
Something as simple as being here, working here in a 'normal' job, paying my taxes and -- above all -- raising expectations makes a small, but cumulative difference. Other people can purchase all the [product]red iPods they want; I occasionally give free rides to malaria-stricken ovaHimba for hundreds of kilometres. What makes more difference? To the Himba in my truck, the free ride to the clinic.
Don't even get me started on red shit. This weekend I got in a row with some sales tart who was trying to convince me that buying a red motorola would make so much difference to people in africa. The dumb bitch had a nice set of sanitised statistics but didn't know a damn thing about aids in africa. She didn't know the good old SA health minister, she didn't find a thing wrong with Pope John Paul II's actions in the arena (the new bloke wants to canonise him - I want him posthumously tried for genocide!), she didn't know shit. I ended up telling her that learning about about the conditions and actual problems in Africa would make far more difference than standing their in her whore skirt selling red phones for profit.
On my last (and I don't just mean previous) trip to the US, I filled 8GB of compact flash with photographs. Care to tell me how I should e-mail that lot home?
While we're at it, care to explain ow the US is the land of the free if that's what I have to do just to keep my photos safe?
I'm pretty sure that weed is NOT legal in the Netherlands. The police have an understanding that they will not prosecute for quantities under 5 grams, and turn a blind eye to coffee houses, but unless I'm missing something, I can find no evidence that weed is legal in Holland.
And do your research: not all sub-saharan countries are corruption-plagued dictatorships. Well, no more than the US anyway...
Ok, I can think of about 4 off the top of my head... Namibia (although government incompentence and corruption is simmering quite nicely), Malawi, Botswana and possibly Zambia. Did I miss any? Pretty much everyone else in that neighborhood fits the 'tinpot african government' stereotype quite nicely, and yes, I include South Africa in that list of wholly corrupt countries.
I recently wandered into a conversation at work about DRM. One of the guys here uses a 'pay montly' subscription service to get his music. I'm not sure of the details, but from what I gather, as long as you're paying, your music is playable.
Something happened and he was no longer able to play all of his music on one of his devices and he was asking for help fixing it. During the discussion it became totally clear that he has no problem letting someone else tell him what he can do with his content. His exact statement was "Life is full of rules where people tell you what you can and can't do"
Nothing I or anyone else said could convince him that this was a foolish mindset. And we're not talking about an 18 year old kid here, we're talking about a 35 year old professional.
The DRM battle is lost. We can rage against it for as long as we like, but the man in the street appears to have accepted it as fait accompli
I certainly wasn't overly protected as a child... Hell, my dad was the guy reff'ing the games where I got scraped up a lot of the time, but I still went on to become an adrenaline junkie.
That would explain all the muttered exclamations of 'Jesus Christ' I hear whenever anyone tries to do something useful with IE then.
I would wet myself laughing at this!
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Red Hat claim that they cannot give out trial copies or dev copies of RHN Satellite because it uses Oracle. They won't even give you a free dev license if you're paying over 100 grand a year for other products, so they force you to pay for Satellite twice if you want to, you know, TEST changes before applying them to live. The worst is that our site license for Oracle gave us FREE dev licenses, so the reasoning didn't really apply.
The main reason they gave for using Oracle instead of PostgreSQL and dropping their Red Hat database was their partnership with Oracle. Because they have such a special relationship with Oracle, they couldn't in good conscience compete with them.
I really, really hope they get screwed by Oracle seeing as they use Oracle to screw people:)
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Have you ever used support? I will buy as little as possible from Oracle and get my support elsewhere.
I've had better support on RAC from the Veritas guys than from Oracle, and that's on a system we were paying £100,000.00 per year for maintenance on!
India's caste system has been abolished IN THEORY! But if it really was, why are so many people converting to other religions just to escape the caste system ?
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Oh damn that is funny! Everyone around me knows I'm not working now :)
He's wrong. The RHEL product manager doesn't speak for Fedora.
It was a She at the time, not a He. Also, you might want to mention this to Red Hat because the net result of that conversation was Fedora being banned by my boss within an international investment bank, even for sysadmin desktops.
That depends on your needs. For folks who want 7 years of support, RHEL is a good choice. For folks who don't need that (or don't care about that), Fedora is perfectly capable of being a production environment, at least for a year.
No production system should be based around a 1 year lifespan.
Oh, I knew someone else had spotted it. But no-one had used my awful pun :)
I can't flamebait you coz I don't have modpoints, so I'll reply instead.
The real problem here for Lik-sang is that precedent has been set. This means that now Sony can sue them for selling Japanese X-boxes to the UK. Nintendo could sue them for selling the Wii to the UK.
Lawsuits aren't cheap - I'm sure if you offered to fund all future lawsuits that are brought against them, they'd be happy to stay open. No? didn't think so.
Maybe you can help me... Can you recommend decent sunglasses for someone with -6 vision in both eyes? I've been to a load of opticians in the UK and none of them can help me.
Is there any way to upgrade a happy running FC5 system to an FC6 system ?
Believe me, I recognise the stupid. Our particular former president is not much of an improvement, and he's not altogether gone yet either; the current guy is doing an *okay* job -- nothing stellar, and no Nobel Prizes.
:) Today, I don't even go there on holiday any more :(
What worries me is that the man who raped, er, had consensual sex* with this woman with no protection is very likely to be SA's next president. His long time accomplice is currently doing a healthy stretch for corruption. And yet his party still actively support him.
Even if you drop the corruption charges, you're still talking about a man who believes it's ok to have unprotected sex with aids carriers as long as you have a shower afterwards. I mean really, WTF? What hope is there for the masses with this kind of mind in charge?
But coming back to the point: I'd still rather live in Namibia than New Jersey.
5 years ago, I would have traded anything in the world with you to get your place in the USA. Hell, I even quite like Jersey from what I've seen of it
Then why did the RHEL4 product manager in NC tell me that when I was visiting from the UK last September?
Also, how long is a Fedora setup supported for ? Not long enough to be useful for any real production work!
And government incompentence and corruption is simmering quite nicely could just as easily describe the current US administration, no?
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No, it couldn't. The US pot has boiled over. They're brazenly corrupt and evil.
I tried making a difference, I really did, but I couldn't take it any more so I left. I was tired of being racially discriminated against for work because of the sins of my father and his father. I was tired of living in a country where the minister for law and order says 'If you dont like the crime, leave'. I was tired of living in a place where the proposed government cure for aids is to eat your vegetables and have a shower after raping an HIV positive woman. You might recognise this country as you live right next door
As for places like Zimbabwe, I don't believe there is hope for the simple reason that the people don't fully understand democracy. Same goes for SA really. A lot of people (and I've seen this first hand, doing education and charity work in rural areas) believe that democracy means you are free to vote for the guy who you're told to vote for by your local chief. Until true individual democracy is understood and embraced, these people can't change their fates. Hope can only exist when the people you trust to provide things actually come through. All the sales of red ipods in the world don't mean jack shit when the government spends the money on Sarafina 2.
Something as simple as being here, working here in a 'normal' job, paying my taxes and -- above all -- raising expectations makes a small, but cumulative difference. Other people can purchase all the [product]red iPods they want; I occasionally give free rides to malaria-stricken ovaHimba for hundreds of kilometres. What makes more difference? To the Himba in my truck, the free ride to the clinic.
Don't even get me started on red shit. This weekend I got in a row with some sales tart who was trying to convince me that buying a red motorola would make so much difference to people in africa. The dumb bitch had a nice set of sanitised statistics but didn't know a damn thing about aids in africa. She didn't know the good old SA health minister, she didn't find a thing wrong with Pope John Paul II's actions in the arena (the new bloke wants to canonise him - I want him posthumously tried for genocide!), she didn't know shit. I ended up telling her that learning about about the conditions and actual problems in Africa would make far more difference than standing their in her whore skirt selling red phones for profit.
Me? Bitter? Fuck yes!
I thought that you were the 'Land of the free*, home of the brave**'
*some restrictions may apply offer not valid in all locations or to all colours of people or on days that end in Y
**By which we mean chickenshit cowards who give up freedoms without thought
Why the fuck do people insist that the US is OK and things are alright, just because they're better than the communist regimes of the past?
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Being the second fattest girl at the bar does NOT make you skinny
On my last (and I don't just mean previous) trip to the US, I filled 8GB of compact flash with photographs. Care to tell me how I should e-mail that lot home?
While we're at it, care to explain ow the US is the land of the free if that's what I have to do just to keep my photos safe?
I'm pretty sure that weed is NOT legal in the Netherlands. The police have an understanding that they will not prosecute for quantities under 5 grams, and turn a blind eye to coffee houses, but unless I'm missing something, I can find no evidence that weed is legal in Holland.
And do your research: not all sub-saharan countries are corruption-plagued dictatorships. Well, no more than the US anyway ...
Ok, I can think of about 4 off the top of my head... Namibia (although government incompentence and corruption is simmering quite nicely), Malawi, Botswana and possibly Zambia. Did I miss any? Pretty much everyone else in that neighborhood fits the 'tinpot african government' stereotype quite nicely, and yes, I include South Africa in that list of wholly corrupt countries.
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!
I recently wandered into a conversation at work about DRM. One of the guys here uses a 'pay montly' subscription service to get his music. I'm not sure of the details, but from what I gather, as long as you're paying, your music is playable.
Something happened and he was no longer able to play all of his music on one of his devices and he was asking for help fixing it. During the discussion it became totally clear that he has no problem letting someone else tell him what he can do with his content. His exact statement was "Life is full of rules where people tell you what you can and can't do"
Nothing I or anyone else said could convince him that this was a foolish mindset. And we're not talking about an 18 year old kid here, we're talking about a 35 year old professional.
The DRM battle is lost. We can rage against it for as long as we like, but the man in the street appears to have accepted it as fait accompli
On the heals of allofmp3.com's press conference trying to clean up its image, Visa has suspended its credit card service to allofmp3.com.
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So who's going to foot the bill now then ?
Seriously, what do
The best quote I've ever heard on this topic was from George Orwell:
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to to visit violence on those that would do us harm.."
I certainly wasn't overly protected as a child... Hell, my dad was the guy reff'ing the games where I got scraped up a lot of the time, but I still went on to become an adrenaline junkie.
the administrator's face if he ever saw a game of British Bulldogs :)
That would explain all the muttered exclamations of 'Jesus Christ' I hear whenever anyone tries to do something useful with IE then.
Red Hat claim that they cannot give out trial copies or dev copies of RHN Satellite because it uses Oracle. They won't even give you a free dev license if you're paying over 100 grand a year for other products, so they force you to pay for Satellite twice if you want to, you know, TEST changes before applying them to live. The worst is that our site license for Oracle gave us FREE dev licenses, so the reasoning didn't really apply.
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The main reason they gave for using Oracle instead of PostgreSQL and dropping their Red Hat database was their partnership with Oracle. Because they have such a special relationship with Oracle, they couldn't in good conscience compete with them.
I really, really hope they get screwed by Oracle seeing as they use Oracle to screw people
Have you ever used support? I will buy as little as possible from Oracle and get my support elsewhere.
I've had better support on RAC from the Veritas guys than from Oracle, and that's on a system we were paying £100,000.00 per year for maintenance on!
India's caste system has been abolished IN THEORY! But if it really was, why are so many people converting to other religions just to escape the caste system ?
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I wish I had modpoints - I'm laughing so hard right now :)