There's a big difference between ignorantly pushing technology forward when you don't know the consequences as opposed to pushing forward when you're well aware of what will happen.
We obviously haven't decided mass autos are a bad idea, otherwise we'd have stopped making and buying the stuff.
The BRIC nations can have a much more detrimental effect on the environment than America has ever had. It may not be fair, but guess what - that's life. It ain't fair. Deal.
It's true, life ain't fair, and BRIC countries will do what they will do. So how do you suggest we "deal"?
Hmmmm... seems only fair to me that, if you first manage to reduce the number of cars in your family/town/country, you can start whining about other people about their potential fleet size.
shashdotted so can't RTFA, but if this replaces good chunk of the two-cycle bangers used in motor rickshaws with a more modern 4-cycle engines, it should reduce pollution. Sounds like the car is small enough to be comparable to the rickshaws (is it?), in which case congestion impact shouldn't be too big while buying added safety.
Wonder how customizable the horn may be.;-) Hope it works out - we don't all need armor-plated humbys.
The same reason why physics people look down on biology as a "lesser" science. Engaging in vehement debate using such muddled terms make you look like fools, not to mention confusing the crap out of the lay public. Like the stupid intelligent design debate which invariably sink to the bottom mud when it gets dragged to arguing the semantics of "species."
You biology people should give a good beat-down to those among you maintaining this archaic, nonsensical taxonomy, and sort the terminology out better - unlikely, I know, with all the vested political/economic interests.
So what you are saying in this tortuous verbiage is that fund managers know what they are doing because they are "professional"? Not good enough. Capitalism often fails and require adjustments ("regulations" to you guys who still believe there is such a thing as "free market") because, among other things, stuff goes out of alignment, in this case the incentive for management and that of the investors (disregarding other "stakeholders" for this argument).
Anyway, if Fidelity still has large exposure to Circuit City shares (and I don't know if this is the case), and CC has been sinking steadily last several years, then Fidelity, be they professional or voodoo magicians, failed miserably their fiduciary duty to their investors.
Your blind faith in "professional" capitalism does more harm to capitalism than ignorant populism. There is no magic in capitalism - like all things, it needs to be tweaked for desired effects.
It's actually funny. When you believe in an imaginary figure that only you can see or hear, it's called a psychological problem. If you believe in an imaginary figure that even you can't see or hear, it's religion.
That's cute.
In Soviet Russia, the government controls the commerce.
I realize that you're addressing the perl interpreter, not the language, but the same problem applies - difficult to implement something correctly if I don't know what that "something" precisely is.
Parrot seems to address this sorta issue, as you noted, but then it will likely negate other features that made Perl popular in the first place (quick-and-dirty, it will probably do what you meant, etc.,), so not sure what the point of it is, other than that people work on whatever they work on for their own reasons.
You are simply piling same faulty layers higher and higher on a landfill foundation.
There is presumption that I know what I am writing, and test is there to catch mistakes. With Perl, you don't actually know what you're writing (it is whatever the Perl interpreter determines it is), how are you to write test for it?
Say you are writing solid-state physics calculation that takes hours or days to complete. If I'm supposed to know the answer in advance for any arbitrary set of input, why bother running the code? How are you to verify a given implementation that is, in the end, a blackbox unless you dig into the underlying C implementation, which defeats whole point of using the high-level Perl?
Don't know about other stuff, but the hip-hop thing definitely has crossed through. Maybe not the original American tunes, but the style has. Ever seen Korean hip-hop act? It's like watching a trainwreck in slow motion.
"...I think all of these things are slightly true - we used to care deeply about program speed and footprint. Now we don't..."
"Sometime back" (you geezer), computers were expensive, and so people did important things with them. Now most computers, people use them to jerk off (in all the glorious senses of the phrase). Rest of the paragraph is left for all yous to make up your owns.
Better look into NASA systems and embedded medical systems for fairer comparisons with the "good ol' days."
"That's the most absurd and soppy thing I've read all day."
That's probably because the term "autism" is absurd and soppy, and should be replaced with something better, but I doubt the researchers know any better or it would have been replaced by a dozen more specific terms already.
Off-topic post here. Can someone give us a low-down on the status of Debian's next release? I know time/effort is always an issue for voluntary projects, and some extra fund always helps, even if it's just beer money. Link for donation? I don't really have the time to volunteer.
Seriously, this is the website for nerds?! For god sake, you would think they'd know the difference between being stiff and being "tough." Did any of you/. editors actually took any science/engineering classes?! Mat Sci 101?!
College library is not for... whatever. It's for sleeping between the classes - cushions and couches are of the utmost importance. And magazines - helps you to falll asleep. How complex can that "system" be? How many magzaines do they have?
"If not, then it has already been determined that we're going to stop talking about it right now, so we can't do anything about it, except stop talking about it."
A: Huh? Who decided that? When? B: Last week, when you weren't looking.
But you cannot make a distinction between "free will" and the illusion thereof, beyond your simply claiming it so, therefore the distinction is pointless. Or, as others noted, "mental masturbation."
"Where do our desires come from? If they come from the our bodies and ultimately the universe, then that's determinism. If they come from nothingness, then you have free will. It is not a false dichotomy. There is either causality or there is not."
How would you ever ascertain that an desire comes from nothing as opposed to something? "Coming from nothing" is the same as we don't know where it came from or how it came.
SP's got it right - it is an imaginary dichotomy irrelevant to reality.
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Hmmmm... seems only fair to me that, if you first manage to reduce the number of cars in your family/town/country, you can start whining about other people about their potential fleet size.
shashdotted so can't RTFA, but if this replaces good chunk of the two-cycle bangers used in motor rickshaws with a more modern 4-cycle engines, it should reduce pollution. Sounds like the car is small enough to be comparable to the rickshaws (is it?), in which case congestion impact shouldn't be too big while buying added safety. Wonder how customizable the horn may be. ;-) Hope it works out - we don't all need armor-plated humbys.
The same reason why physics people look down on biology as a "lesser" science. Engaging in vehement debate using such muddled terms make you look like fools, not to mention confusing the crap out of the lay public. Like the stupid intelligent design debate which invariably sink to the bottom mud when it gets dragged to arguing the semantics of "species."
You biology people should give a good beat-down to those among you maintaining this archaic, nonsensical taxonomy, and sort the terminology out better - unlikely, I know, with all the vested political/economic interests.
We really need that. The above post is plain stupid, sheer dumbness, not flame bait, not troll, just dang stupid.
So what you are saying in this tortuous verbiage is that fund managers know what they are doing because they are "professional"? Not good enough. Capitalism often fails and require adjustments ("regulations" to you guys who still believe there is such a thing as "free market") because, among other things, stuff goes out of alignment, in this case the incentive for management and that of the investors (disregarding other "stakeholders" for this argument). Anyway, if Fidelity still has large exposure to Circuit City shares (and I don't know if this is the case), and CC has been sinking steadily last several years, then Fidelity, be they professional or voodoo magicians, failed miserably their fiduciary duty to their investors. Your blind faith in "professional" capitalism does more harm to capitalism than ignorant populism. There is no magic in capitalism - like all things, it needs to be tweaked for desired effects.
Is it shaped like kettle?
That's a lie.
I realize that you're addressing the perl interpreter, not the language, but the same problem applies - difficult to implement something correctly if I don't know what that "something" precisely is. Parrot seems to address this sorta issue, as you noted, but then it will likely negate other features that made Perl popular in the first place (quick-and-dirty, it will probably do what you meant, etc.,), so not sure what the point of it is, other than that people work on whatever they work on for their own reasons.
You are simply piling same faulty layers higher and higher on a landfill foundation.
There is presumption that I know what I am writing, and test is there to catch mistakes. With Perl, you don't actually know what you're writing (it is whatever the Perl interpreter determines it is), how are you to write test for it?
Say you are writing solid-state physics calculation that takes hours or days to complete. If I'm supposed to know the answer in advance for any arbitrary set of input, why bother running the code? How are you to verify a given implementation that is, in the end, a blackbox unless you dig into the underlying C implementation, which defeats whole point of using the high-level Perl?
Don't know about other stuff, but the hip-hop thing definitely has crossed through. Maybe not the original American tunes, but the style has. Ever seen Korean hip-hop act? It's like watching a trainwreck in slow motion.
'Course, I'm a Korean.
Wrong website, bud. They/we have no need for lubricant.
if commercial vendors did any better...
"...I think all of these things are slightly true - we used to care deeply about program speed and footprint. Now we don't..."
"Sometime back" (you geezer), computers were expensive, and so people did important things with them. Now most computers, people use them to jerk off (in all the glorious senses of the phrase). Rest of the paragraph is left for all yous to make up your owns.
Better look into NASA systems and embedded medical systems for fairer comparisons with the "good ol' days."
"That's the most absurd and soppy thing I've read all day."
That's probably because the term "autism" is absurd and soppy, and should be replaced with something better, but I doubt the researchers know any better or it would have been replaced by a dozen more specific terms already.
Off-topic post here. Can someone give us a low-down on the status of Debian's next release? I know time/effort is always an issue for voluntary projects, and some extra fund always helps, even if it's just beer money. Link for donation? I don't really have the time to volunteer.
What's on your other window?
/. editors actually took any science/engineering classes?! Mat Sci 101?!
Seriously, this is the website for nerds?! For god sake, you would think they'd know the difference between being stiff and being "tough." Did any of you
College library is not for ... whatever. It's for sleeping between the classes - cushions and couches are of the utmost importance. And magazines - helps you to falll asleep. How complex can that "system" be? How many magzaines do they have?
Um... and you replied beceause you're just like me? Oops, you've got me again!
Arguing whether this post is due to "compulsion" or "free will" - that is a mental masturbation. Only thing that's certain is that I made this post.
Have a nice holiday.
Dude, that's not beer.
"If not, then it has already been determined that we're going to stop talking about it right now, so we can't do anything about it, except stop talking about it."
A: Huh? Who decided that? When?
B: Last week, when you weren't looking.
But you cannot make a distinction between "free will" and the illusion thereof, beyond your simply claiming it so, therefore the distinction is pointless. Or, as others noted, "mental masturbation."
"Where do our desires come from? If they come from the our bodies and ultimately the universe, then that's determinism. If they come from nothingness, then you have free will. It is not a false dichotomy. There is either causality or there is not."
How would you ever ascertain that an desire comes from nothing as opposed to something? "Coming from nothing" is the same as we don't know where it came from or how it came.
SP's got it right - it is an imaginary dichotomy irrelevant to reality.