Linux frankly runs for shit on anything other
than x86, despite all the claims of all the different systems it runs on
really? got any numbers to support that, oh great fudmeister?
I dont' have any numbers to support my rebuttal either, but I do have 4 non intel systems ( 2 ppc and 2 ultrasparc ) running perceptably faster than equivalently clocked intel machines
There are some areas which are well supplied by free software. in many of them, the free software is markedly better than the commercial competition. These seem to be things like Operating Systems and Web Servers.
Other things seem to be best supplied by the commercial market - Doom3 & the nvidia drivers that let me play it on my linux box, for example. These things are all good, and there is a place for all of them. Jumping up and down about whether they meet RMS's definition of 'Free' or not is a waste of time, imho.
In your second paragraph you discuss how (generally) artists do not have the infrastructure or the contacts needed in this global industry...[snip] - but it doesn't seem like the artists are doing too bad. As long as an artist can get one really good hit song out there they are sure to make a ton of cash.
The artists that you see aren't doing too bad. how about the other ones? I'll give you a case study: poe kick ass artist who was a little too smart for the Britney/justin set, so after 2 records, her contract was cancled... but the record company retained all rights to her music. what does this mean? this means that she can't perform her own songs. I can, joe blow corner musician can, because we didn't sign any contracts. She can't.Now, who's fault is this? could she have read the contract a little closer 10 years ago? prolly. but do you really think the record label was going to back down on that point?
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>we can explain everything that happened from >roughly 1x10e-50 seconds after the event until >now
so... the big bang theory explains, for example, why sirius, the rabbit who lives in my living room, has a pathological hatred of snoopy, the rabbit who lives under my bed?
Hyperthreading is an attempt to make a crappy archetecture suck less. AMD does not need this kind of crutch.
>This is in addition to Intel performance-enhancing compilers
Which no one uses. I mean, literally, no one. The whole concept of the P4 was that everyone would use the Intel compiler, which would properly order the instructions going into that Hummer-sized pipeline. No one did. Everyone uses either microsoft's compiler, or RMS's. Thus the terrible performance of the P4.
32-bit processors are not useful for most people even geeks. I only have one app that ould benefit from ronning on a 32-bit processor and that is NTP but it does fine on 16-bit processors. Games do not need 32-bit processors look at Sega, the games run fine on 16-bit processors and look as good the without the extra floating point accuracy. Why would I want a 386, gives my nothing but 32-bits.
I mean, come on. really, if we all went back to 8-bit processors, i think the world would be a better place.
>WTF are you talking about? I have a sparc >solaris 8 server (set up by Sun people) and it >has/lib linked to/usr/lib and/bin linked >to/usr/bin.
yes, after/usr is mounted,/sbin and/bin get linked. if you boot into single user mode, however, you'll find that there are things in those directories.
>That only goes half way - the Perl code is still >being interpretted for each page request
Sorry, Perl is a compiled language, not an interpreted language. It is compiled at run time ( can you say JIT ? i knew you could) instead of ahead of time, but it's still compiled.
That having been said, why do you care? If you want to compare the performance of 2 things, you don't do it by having a theoretical discussion of their features. you put them on a race track and time them.
I realize that half the people on/. won't have a clue who Joni Mitchell is, but something she says on her 'miles of aisles' live album strikes me as relevant here:
'The difference between Performing Artists and Painters is that no one ever asked Van Gogh to "do starry night again"'
I think Lucas's issue is that he's forgotten that he produces finished pieces, like paintings. Hopefully Rami keeps that in mind
. this will only show what will have to be compiled on your system... you prolly already have a certain number of it's dependencies. what you should have done is
>Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. > -- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822.3.
it's no fun if you give away the fact that you're trolling like this. Everybody knows that Dr. Spock only appeared in the Star Wars Trailer, and that this line was actually said by Dominar Rygel 16 in those PeaceKeeper Wars shorts on the Cartoon Network last year.
a link to the definition of mach ? yes, i'm aware of the mach kernel... but not of anyone actually using it as a microkernel in a publicly available system.
Apple has a strange melted-together thing which is half mach and half FreeBSD, but since it insn't running anything else as a server, it's not really a microkernel.
no, they were trying to do something trendy. Microkernels were the trendy thing when they started. Pls note that noone else is bothering to make real microkernel systems today
>instead of spending 10 years creating just >another UNIX clone
which is why they're still not done 20 years later...
> Well, Linux started out as something > barely usable
Yes, but the Hurd has had a lot longer to stop sucking than Linux has, as it was already in progress before Linus got started.
One can argue that this is because all the developers flocked around Linus ( I think Stallman has made this argument from time to time ) but given that world+dog has given up on the whole microkernel thing, it's more likely that the hurd just sucks.
Re:Wow, good job for american propoganda machine
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>Communism is simply when everyone has access to >resources that most people need to be happy >food, cloth, medicine, a place to live and so on
bzzzt! wrong. that's socialism. In practice, communism is when you have to buy the stuff you need ( clothes, toilet paper, food ) on the black market, at highly inflated priced.
I have a good friend who grew up in east germany, and who had to join the swim team just to get a hot shower every day. ( they didn't always have running water at home ) does that sound like she got 'everything that most people need to be happy' ?
pls don't assume that the things you read on./ or in a book have any bearing on how the world actually functions.
you may not have any MSOffice _windows_ running, but I'll bet you a copy of Office XP that if you check your 'startup items' folder, you'll find that office is preloading it'self at boot.
This isn't a bad thing, Just be aware of it when making comparisions. OOo is taking longer because it's not already there.
>I agree with whoever mentioned that C++ is only >slower because it has to start up from a virtual >machine
I know this is slashdot, but please... there's a reason for the 'preview' button.
Re:No! I use CapsLock as my "ESC" key
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>Despite your low slashdot ID, >you clearly didn't cut your teeth on a Sun >mainframe.:)
And neither did you, given that Sun doesn't make mainframes, and never has.
Misuse of the word 'mainframe' in popular media is starting to really piss me off ( just watched 'the Net' a couple of hours ago... ) but on slashdot? come on. too many of us are going to realize that you're 12 and running winme.
"If the GNU kernel had been ready last spring, I'd not have bothered to even start my project: the fact is that it wasn't and still isn't. Linux wins heavily on points of being available"
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really? got any numbers to support that, oh great fudmeister?
I dont' have any numbers to support my rebuttal either, but I do have 4 non intel systems ( 2 ppc and 2 ultrasparc ) running perceptably faster than equivalently clocked intel machines
There are some areas which are well supplied by free software. in many of them, the free software is markedly better than the commercial competition. These seem to be things like Operating Systems and Web Servers.
Other things seem to be best supplied by the commercial market - Doom3 & the nvidia drivers that let me play it on my linux box, for example. These things are all good, and there is a place for all of them. Jumping up and down about whether they meet RMS's definition of 'Free' or not is a waste of time, imho.
>we can explain everything that happened from
>roughly 1x10e-50 seconds after the event until
>now
so... the big bang theory explains, for example, why sirius, the rabbit who lives in my living room, has a pathological hatred of snoopy, the rabbit who lives under my bed?
> You should have used the Peter Jackson play
> book, and stayed true to the original story.
Please, please, please, tell me this is a joke? do you actually think that PJ was in any way true to Tolkien's work ?
G4 Powerbooks, which support OS X ( and run it quite decently), have built in IRda ports
which spell checker you inherited from Konqueror.
>HyperThreading, for which AMD has no counterpart
Hyperthreading is an attempt to make a crappy archetecture suck less. AMD does not need this kind of crutch.
>This is in addition to Intel performance-enhancing compilers
Which no one uses. I mean, literally, no one. The whole concept of the P4 was that everyone would use the Intel compiler, which would properly order the instructions going into that Hummer-sized pipeline. No one did. Everyone uses either microsoft's compiler, or RMS's. Thus the terrible performance of the P4.
32-bit processors are not useful for most people even geeks. I only have one app that ould benefit from ronning on a 32-bit processor and that is NTP but it does fine on 16-bit processors. Games do not need 32-bit processors look at Sega, the games run fine on 16-bit processors and look as good the without the extra floating point accuracy. Why would I want a 386, gives my nothing but 32-bits.
I mean, come on. really, if we all went back to 8-bit processors, i think the world would be a better place.
>WTF are you talking about? I have a sparc /lib linked to /usr/lib and /bin linked /usr/bin.
/usr is mounted, /sbin and /bin get linked. if you boot into single user mode, however, you'll find that there are things in those directories.
>solaris 8 server (set up by Sun people) and it
>has
>to
yes, after
>That only goes half way - the Perl code is still
>being interpretted for each page request
Sorry, Perl is a compiled language, not an interpreted language. It is compiled at run time ( can you say JIT ? i knew you could) instead of ahead of time, but it's still compiled.
That having been said, why do you care? If you want to compare the performance of 2 things, you don't do it by having a theoretical discussion of their features. you put them on a race track and time them.
wasn't that the first name of the planetologist from dune ?
I realize that half the people on /. won't have a clue who Joni Mitchell is, but something she says on her 'miles of aisles' live album strikes me as relevant here:
'The difference between Performing Artists and Painters is that no one ever asked Van Gogh to "do starry night again"'
I think Lucas's issue is that he's forgotten that he produces finished pieces, like paintings. Hopefully Rami keeps that in mind
what you should have done is which will show _all_ dependencies.
>Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
> -- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822.3.
it's no fun if you give away the fact that you're trolling like this. Everybody knows that Dr. Spock only appeared in the Star Wars Trailer, and that this line was actually said by Dominar Rygel 16 in those PeaceKeeper Wars shorts on the Cartoon Network last year.
>what last year's game predicted. That is, >depending on how you look at it, both Gore and >Bush won
...
um... there was no presidential election last year, so
a link to the definition of mach ? yes, i'm aware of the mach kernel... but not of anyone actually using it as a microkernel in a publicly available system.
Apple has a strange melted-together thing which is half mach and half FreeBSD, but since it insn't running anything else as a server, it's not really a microkernel.
>They were trying to do something modern,
no, they were trying to do something trendy. Microkernels were the trendy thing when they started. Pls note that noone else is bothering to make real microkernel systems today
>instead of spending 10 years creating just
>another UNIX clone
which is why they're still not done 20 years later...
> Well, Linux started out as something
> barely usable
Yes, but the Hurd has had a lot longer to stop sucking than Linux has, as it was already in progress before Linus got started.
One can argue that this is because all the developers flocked around Linus ( I think Stallman has made this argument from time to time ) but given that world+dog has given up on the whole microkernel thing, it's more likely that the hurd just sucks.
>Communism is simply when everyone has access to
./ or in a book have any bearing on how the world actually functions.
>resources that most people need to be happy
>food, cloth, medicine, a place to live and so on
bzzzt! wrong. that's socialism. In practice, communism is when you have to buy the stuff you need ( clothes, toilet paper, food ) on the black market, at highly inflated priced.
I have a good friend who grew up in east germany, and who had to join the swim team just to get a hot shower every day. ( they didn't always have running water at home ) does that sound like she got 'everything that most people need to be happy' ?
pls don't assume that the things you read on
hmm.... so they're reverting to the breadboard and tube based design?
you may not have any MSOffice _windows_ running, but I'll bet you a copy of Office XP that if you check your 'startup items' folder, you'll find that office is preloading it'self at boot.
This isn't a bad thing, Just be aware of it when making comparisions. OOo is taking longer because it's not already there.
>I agree with whoever mentioned that C++ is only
>slower because it has to start up from a virtual
>machine
I know this is slashdot, but please... there's a reason for the 'preview' button.
>Despite your low slashdot ID, :)
>you clearly didn't cut your teeth on a Sun
>mainframe.
And neither did you, given that Sun doesn't make mainframes, and never has.
Misuse of the word 'mainframe' in popular media is starting to really piss me off ( just watched 'the Net' a couple of hours ago... ) but on slashdot? come on. too many of us are going to realize that you're 12 and running winme.