Alienation is a personal value, not a business vaue, and typically doesn't matter in most business situations.
have you ever read a balance sheet? you'll typically find an asset called "good will". good will is the monitary value of your clients liking you, your product name, whatever.
in any buisness that has people as customers, the good will of those people is important.
exactly. i mean, theo and co have been going through OpenBSD for half a decade, and they're still finding stuff (and it's a much smaller code base too).
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why a linux kernel? i mean, the FreeBSD kernel is older, more stable, offers Linux (and SCO) binary compatability... the only area it's slighty worse than Linux at is SMP, and on an Intel system this is pretty worthless anyway.
you gotta wonder why they'd select a GPL'd os instead of one they could controll more closely, like a BSD. Possibly 'cause redhat comes with a service orginazation? hmm...
so when will radeon 8500 support DRI in xfree86?
when will there be full hardware support for radeon 8500?
as soon as you write them. this is the point of the discussion - while there are folks like me and (apparently, correct me if i'm wrong here) yourself who don't contrubute source, it won't do everythhing.
in the closed source world, motivation is applied via funding: the customer's demand (supposedly) drives what's paid for. in the open source, the customer and developer are the same person, (supposedly) so its actually up to us to make it work. if we don't know enough c (my excuse) we should go buy orielly books:)
They have to ship upgrades to keep the cash coming in
um... yeah. which is why they give away the software for free. installing the latest solaris involves : downloading the cds. installing the cds. patching the install. the only easier install i'm aware of is freebsd, and *bsd doesn't run quite as well on a 64 processor system.
sun is becoming what IBM used to be: a hardware company (sunfire == GOOD_THING(tm)) who doesn't worry about making money on software.
because they're part of the 5.x source, which is about a year off. from the slashdot interview with :
As you observe, some TrustedBSD features have already been integrated into the base tree, including extended attributes on files, as well as infrastructure support for capabilities, ACLs, and some of the improved abstractions I spoke about above. The plan is to integrate most of the TrustedBSD features into the base operating system distribution over time; some features are more intrusive, as well as more computationally expensive, than others, meaning that some features may be distributed as modules rather than enabled by default. However, it is a definite goal to make all of the work easily available for FreeBSD installations, and under a two clause BSD-style license. Many of these features will appear in FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE, although they will presumably mature over time.
the difference is in the use. physical property is something i make or buy ( this can of mr pibb, for example ). i buy it, it's mine. you can't drink it without depriving me of the ability to drink it.
if i'm the factory, i make the pibb, can it, and sell it. each can costs me a certain amount, i sell it for enough to make a profit.
in this example, IP is the recipe for the drink. if you copy the recipe, i still have it, i can still make pibb, but so can you now. except that i've copyrited or patented the recipe/process, and if you steal the recipe and start making it yourself (perhaps selling it for less than i do) you are 1. violating my IP, and 2. depriving me of the profits i would have made by selling to the people you sell to.
this is fine in the old economy, where the ip was the process. but now, the ip is the _product_. there is virtually no cost associated with making multiple copies, so the sticker price is pure profit.
in addition, the people who are being punished are equivelant to someone making a batch of pibb in their kitchen for the kids. they're not seeking to profit from this, they're just making some for themselves.
actually he does. multiuser is the state where unix like os's allow one to log on as more than root... ie, their normal state of operation. in sVr4ish systems (like linux) this corresponds to runlevels above 0.
no... cd's as a technology can be easily replaced with, say minidisk or ibm microdrives, or whatever.
what replaces pay phones in this way?
.what i'd look for is the broader elimination of landlines for voice, and replacing all phone booths with solar powered cellphones like you see along the california highways every mile or so. it shouldn't be too hard to hook up a coin box to one of those...
and you think this is the only time this happened?
or was this just the only time we were nice to them... and we made sure to take lots of pictures and document carefully what we did so that we could act all innocent and pure later (now, like you are).
the think is, we're all missing the point. this is a test of bush - china's actions amount to sabre rattling, or, "beating the grass to startle the snakes".
Customers want convenience first, last and in between. EVERYTHING else is a distant second (if not third or fourth).
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Convenience will convince people to put up with blue screen crashes, crappy software, extra expense and everything else.
where i work, the people who make purchasing decisions do so based on percieved cost, not Convenience. the problem is that they think that getting something gratis means they'll never be able to get support, and they don't bother to find out differently.
He's not talking about conforming to button bars, he is talking about coding.
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Atleast with windows you code for one and you code for all.
have you ever coded for windows? in my experience the sameness extends about 1 pixel deeper than the user experience. If i write something for WIN9x, i have to go back and fiddle with it to get it to work in NT, and then again for 2000. or maybe that's what you meant by
Ofcourse through inovation, new features and technological advancements things will always change.
which means that as long as i only letmy product be run on one version of windows i'm fine... and i shouldn't expect the new api to deprecate half the previous one.
i don't understand why everyone's so upset about the kde/gnome thing... i use kde for my desktop, run gimp & mozilla off the gtk+ libs, and everything's fine.
OSX was built on top of next, which apple bought... as in paid for, not stole. and if you think cars are idiot proof you certainly don't commute on 101:)
they suggest a boycott in the article... "techno-wenies against the dough boy". we've got to start somewhere, and this looks like a good place to make a stand: it's completly obvious that there's no merit. the two industries are so unreleated that it'll be a clean decision with no questions.
neh, everything sierra does tastes the same. they make 2 good beers; the Pale Ale and the Bigfoot, but the stout tastes just like the Pale ale, just more so.
ach, Guinness isn't the best stout out there anyway. if you want to stick with authentic, try Beamish or Murphies. if the nation of origin doesn't matter all that much, Dragon Stout from Santa Cruz is mighty tasty...
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have you ever read a balance sheet? you'll typically find an asset called "good will". good will is the monitary value of your clients liking you, your product name, whatever.
in any buisness that has people as customers, the good will of those people is important.
exactly. i mean, theo and co have been going through OpenBSD for half a decade, and they're still finding stuff (and it's a much smaller code base too).
why a linux kernel? i mean, the FreeBSD kernel is older, more stable, offers Linux (and SCO) binary compatability... the only area it's slighty worse than Linux at is SMP, and on an Intel system this is pretty worthless anyway.
you gotta wonder why they'd select a GPL'd os instead of one they could controll more closely, like a BSD. Possibly 'cause redhat comes with a service orginazation? hmm...
as soon as you write them. this is the point of the discussion - while there are folks like me and (apparently, correct me if i'm wrong here) yourself who don't contrubute source, it won't do everythhing.
in the closed source world, motivation is applied via funding: the customer's demand (supposedly) drives what's paid for. in the open source, the customer and developer are the same person, (supposedly) so its actually up to us to make it work. if we don't know enough c (my excuse) we should go buy orielly books
i will, for one. this is why my machines don't run linux anymore, either. see www.freebsd.org, www.netbsd.org, www.openbsd.org for more details..
http://www.magma.com/index2.html
good stuff. you can take your laptop with you, leave this in the rack.
SPOON!!!
sun is becoming what IBM used to be: a hardware company (sunfire == GOOD_THING(tm)) who doesn't worry about making money on software.
whoops... meant to include the link:. sh tml
http://slashdot.org/interviews/01/01/18/1251257
because they're part of the 5.x source, which is about a year off. from the slashdot interview with :
As you observe, some TrustedBSD features have already been integrated into the base tree, including extended attributes on files, as well as infrastructure support for capabilities, ACLs, and some of the improved abstractions I spoke about above. The plan is to integrate most of the TrustedBSD features into the base operating system distribution over time; some features are more intrusive, as well as more computationally expensive, than others, meaning that some features may be distributed as modules rather than enabled by default. However, it is a definite goal to make all of the work easily available for FreeBSD installations, and under a two clause BSD-style license. Many of these features will appear in FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE, although they will presumably mature over time.
slashdot much?
ben
rename it kmud-and-grass-structure.
i can understand adobe's standpoint, when asked they'll say they have to protect it or they'll loose the right to...
still, i think a demand of money is a bit extreme here. they could be nicer about it.
if i'm the factory, i make the pibb, can it, and sell it. each can costs me a certain amount, i sell it for enough to make a profit.
in this example, IP is the recipe for the drink. if you copy the recipe, i still have it, i can still make pibb, but so can you now. except that i've copyrited or patented the recipe/process, and if you steal the recipe and start making it yourself (perhaps selling it for less than i do) you are 1. violating my IP, and 2. depriving me of the profits i would have made by selling to the people you sell to.
this is fine in the old economy, where the ip was the process. but now, the ip is the _product_. there is virtually no cost associated with making multiple copies, so the sticker price is pure profit.
in addition, the people who are being punished are equivelant to someone making a batch of pibb in their kitchen for the kids. they're not seeking to profit from this, they're just making some for themselves.
actually he does. multiuser is the state where unix like os's allow one to log on as more than root... ie, their normal state of operation. in sVr4ish systems (like linux) this corresponds to runlevels above 0.
no... cd's as a technology can be easily replaced with, say minidisk or ibm microdrives, or whatever.
what replaces pay phones in this way?
.what i'd look for is the broader elimination of landlines for voice, and replacing all phone booths with solar powered cellphones like you see along the california highways every mile or so. it shouldn't be too hard to hook up a coin box to one of those...
beer wants to be information.
and you think this is the only time this happened?
or was this just the only time we were nice to them... and we made sure to take lots of pictures and document carefully what we did so that we could act all innocent and pure later (now, like you are).
the think is, we're all missing the point. this is a test of bush - china's actions amount to sabre rattling, or, "beating the grass to startle the snakes".
where i work, the people who make purchasing decisions do so based on percieved cost, not Convenience. the problem is that they think that getting something gratis means they'll never be able to get support, and they don't bother to find out differently.
no, OS X uses gets it's userland from Free & NetBSDs. it's kernel is Mach, from carnegie melon, by way of NeXT.
have you ever coded for windows? in my experience the sameness extends about 1 pixel deeper than the user experience. If i write something for WIN9x, i have to go back and fiddle with it to get it to work in NT, and then again for 2000. or maybe that's what you meant by
which means that as long as i only letmy product be run on one version of windows i'm fine... and i shouldn't expect the new api to deprecate half the previous one.
i don't understand why everyone's so upset about the kde/gnome thing... i use kde for my desktop, run gimp & mozilla off the gtk+ libs, and everything's fine.
um... no.
:)
OSX was built on top of next, which apple bought... as in paid for, not stole. and if you think cars are idiot proof you certainly don't commute on 101
just a small note - the word is
no _native_ playback.
they've got all the older os9 stuff still there, _including_ DVD playback. it's just not redone in carbon yet.
they suggest a boycott in the article... "techno-wenies against the dough boy". we've got to start somewhere, and this looks like a good place to make a stand: it's completly obvious that there's no merit. the two industries are so unreleated that it'll be a clean decision with no questions.
neh, everything sierra does tastes the same. they make 2 good beers; the Pale Ale and the Bigfoot, but the stout tastes just like the Pale ale, just more so.
ach, Guinness isn't the best stout out there anyway. if you want to stick with authentic, try Beamish or Murphies. if the nation of origin doesn't matter all that much, Dragon Stout from Santa Cruz is mighty tasty...