This is the beauty of OPEN SOURCE!! He got ahold of some code, modified and improved it, and released it back into the public domain! That's how it's SUPPOSED to work!
Dude, don't be giving Microsoft any more ammo for their "viral GPL" FUD:-)
So all P2P users / software makers need to do to circumvent this, is to agree on a specific MD5 sum, then patch every file so that they produce this same MD5 sum:)
That would totally pooch clients such as E-Donkey that use MD5 hashes to actually figure out which clients have a particular file (whether just a portion thereof, or in their entirety), irrespective of how each individual client may have renamed it.
And trust me, there are fringe benefits to the hashing as well, such as making it apparent when someone is trying to masquerade a file as something that it's really not.
E.g., consider the following scenario...
1. You are searching for Red Hat ISOs.
2. You find a match called "Red Hat.iso" shared from one user.
3. You notice that there are 50 other users sharing the same file.
3. The other 50 versions are named as "Goatse.cx guy and tubgirl together at last.mpg"
4. Therefore, something is very very rotten in Denmark...:-)
Sorry, I said Brazilian, but I just realized it's actually Spanish. That damned green colour scheme threw me off and I didn't actually look closely at the URL until just now:-)
I was following various links about the topic (artificial intelligence and poker) when I found this little gem. Wicked awesome site design, so I can only assume that his software building skills are as magnificent: POKER WITH AI-LEARNING
I say we help him beta test not only his program, but also help him stress-test his web server.
He's might be on the level, but I am a bit too paranoid to go to some fly-by-night brazilian website and download binary-only software to my machine that the author outright tells me is going to be emailing stuff back to him. This could all be one big Trojan.
What is more:
This option does not work for some configurations of Internet connection. If this option does not work please attach the file POKER_IA.MDB and send it to me, so I can join it to my DB.
So if it's a trojan, and your firewall/email settings don't let the compromised data through, he socially engineers you into sending it to him yourself!
Apologies to this guy if his stuff actually does what he says it does, but I think I'm going to pass just to be safe.
We received several translations of the title "Zettai Zetsumei Toshi," which means something along the lines of "the umbrella thieves." This actually kind of creeped me out - I thought it was sort of goofy to focus on losing our umbrella the way we did, but then I like fifteen people tell me that somebody taking your umbrella is practically a Goddamn epidemic in Tokyo. What's more, it's a cascading effect, so when somebody takes your umbrella, you just go take Bob-san's, and then Bob-San takes somebody else-san's umbrella, and now we're in this sorry state where proper preservation from the elements is concerned.
FYI, it is generally accepted that the fourth plane was shot down by the US military. No doubt heroics were attempted, but it is unclear whether they succeeded.
Generally accepted? I know that the theory has been floated (mostly be conspiracy theorists), but I think it's a bit far to say it's generally accepted isn't it?
The only theory I'd call "generally accepted" is that the terrorists on that flight had an explosive device of some sort. From what I recall from the news reports (I could be wrong -- it's been 2 years almost after all), one of the passengers mentioned it when they called someone via their cellphone. Or maybe it was one of the terrorists that said they had it over the radio... I can't remember. I do remember it being mentioned extensively in the media though.
Can anyone point me to any evidence that the plane was shot down? Not that I don't think it could have happened, but I don't think the theory can be considered "generally accepted" if all we have to go on is gut feelings, conjecture, or signals received on tinfoil hats.
If you cancel your service, then the ISP could cite your lifetime loss of business as a loss of tens of thousands of dollars, and hopefully finally get the FBI off their asses to arrest this dude.
So if you cancel, you will be doing your ISP and soceity in general a favour:-)
What do we need to do to get one of these donated to Project Gutenberg? Right now one of the biggest things holding them up is a lack of volunteers to manually scan the books.
Evidently you didn't play Blood 2: The Chosen. It's almost universally reviled as one of the most horrid FPS games of all time. Certainly not the worst, but definitely bad.
Some will probably cry foul when I say this, but I thought it was worse than Daikatana by far, especially if you were playing the original demo that was so horribly non-optimized that you were lucky to get 20-25 frames a second, even with a good 3D card at the time that would run, say, Half-Life (a much more visually attractive game) at 40 or so FPS.
This would be a much more useful announcment if they had written the software for Palm's Tungsten T and the on-board C55x DSP half of its OMAP 1510 processor.
This way:
a) It wouldn't hog 100% of your CPU... you'd actually be able to, you know, DO STUFF while listening to the radio
b) You wouldn't hose your whole battery in virtually no time. The C55x has a WAY better power/mips ratio than XScale, not to mention you're going to use way less mips in the first place by virtue of it being a DSP that's actually designed to do Digital Signal Processing.
The Snake brothers... the Snake on the patriots flag, the snake like metal gear ray...
Actually, the patriots' flag in MGS2 was supposed to be a reproduction of the "Don't tread on me" flags flown by members of the American revolution. So, I don't think it was so much his "snake fetish" as much as it was a total fit for the "Sons of Liberty" concept.
lemme see what I can think of right away:
* silent
* no recoil
* less resupply problems (lay a power cable to the forward camp instead of moving trucks full of ammo)
* if constructed right, can be enclosed completely = less susceptable to dirt, dust and water
* if using invisible light (IR/UV) doesn't give away your position through muzzle flashes
* more accuracy due to a reduce "time to impact" (from pulling the trigger to impact, it's half a second at 500 yards)
Let's not forget the perfectly flat trajectory as well. Instead of having to compensate for distance and wind, just point and click just like your favourite FPS -- your sights will always be perfectly zeroed. Aiming at and hitting an enemy 1000 yards away will not be appreciably different than hitting one 50 yards away.
Of course, there would still be environmental factors to worry about such as smoke or thick fog that could refract the beam or reduce its effectiveness.
And then there's the factor of them not having much in the way of moving parts, and no chemical propellants, and thus not having to be cleaned very often in comparison to your average rifle.
Well, I think we can agree in this case at least, that the background check left something to be desired, and this guy was as loopy as a fruitcake.
True, but it's hard to say if he was loopy when he obtained the gun. It's perfectly possible that he bought it twenty years ago when he was perfectly sane, and that he went loopy since then. It's also perfectly possible that he was totally off his rocker the moment he bought it, and the shop keeper and whomever does the background check (cops) just had no way to know.
Yes you can argue that the system perhaps needs improvement (we really don't have enough details to argue that one way or the other), but I don't see how you can fault them if they followed the system and the guy checked out.
If a bartender sells someone a drink and then lets them get into a car when the bartender knows or suspects the customer is intoxicated the bartender and the estabilshment that sold the drink can be held negligent. Similary if a car dealership sold a car to someone who was plastered they'd likely be liable the second he got behind the wheel.
Yes but that's if they sell them booze/cars when they're already drunk. I'm talking about suing the car dealership for selling the guy the car, even though he doesn't get drunk and kill someone until later. Hell, maybe even years later. Are they still liable then?
Regarding steak knives, well, I can think of substantial "non-infringing" uses for steak knives, like eating steak, or, apparently, sawing through soda cans then cutting tomato slices. Guns, particularly handguns, have a much more limited range of uses.
Well there are plenty of legal uses for guns too -- target shooting for instance. Whether or not everyone likes them, they are still legal. Whether they should be legal or not (which although you haven't said it, seems to be what you think is the problem), well, that's a whole other kettle of fish that we probably don't need to get into.
What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter what was sold. The point is that if you legally sell someone a legal item that they are legally able to purchase, and you have no reason to suspect any wrongdoing, then you shouldn't be held liable. If the guy was sold a gun after showing up drunk, or coming into the shop proudly declaring that he was going to use it to kill someone, then yes, obviously the shop keeper bears some significant blame, but we have no indication that anything of the sort happened.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but assuming you're not...
Assuming the guns and ammunition were sold in accordance to the law (and not obtained illegally), and the seller had no reason to suspect any wrongdoing, then I don't see how you can blame the seller for the crime. Might as well blame WalMart the next time someone gets stabbed in a domestic dispute on account of the fact that WalMart sold them the steak knife. Or the liquor store for selling someone that 40 of vodka they drank before running down someone in a drunk driving mishap. Or hell, why not sue the dealership that sold him the car?
Leaving all that aside, there is still a fundamental difference. You don't have a legal right to prevent everyone that knows you from not owning guns. You do however have a right to privacy. The violation of the deceased's right to privacy led to their death, i.e., the search firm acted illegally when they should have known better than to do so, and that negligence led to the victim's death. Unless you can prove that whomever sold the murderer the guns was similarly negligent, then I don't see how they should be at fault.
The problem is that the word 'Windows' can be used for those transparent panes of glass. I suggest we rename them to "Gates Holes" as in The microsoft building has HUGE Gates Holes.
Then people will think Bill Gates is the goatse.cx guy, and we'll all be sued for libel.
Well, if I REALLY need to stay awake/alert, a nice 20 oz bottle of Jolt with some Sky Rocket caffeinated syrup (100 mg caffeine and 18 g of sugar per ounce... YOWZA!) in it does the trick nicely.
You have to be careful though. This combination will wire you hot enough to pitch a Chevy. The first time I tried it, I didn't really know how much to use, and I think I ended up putting like 6 ounces of Sky Rocket into the mix. I was so hyper, I actually had to resist the urge to go leapfrogging around the office over people's desk chairs at 9 am. You would be surprised at what seems like a good idea when seen through 700 mg of caffeine that is ingested in under 5 minutes.
Sometimes recommended serving sizes are there for a reason...
Mechanik
Re:Why do we need wearable computers anyways?
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Personally, I want a wearable computer for privacy reasons. I take a commuter train for about an hour one way to and from work, and like to work on stuff (specifically, I'm working on a novel in my spare time) while I'm on the train. In fact, I even have a Visor Prism + keyboard that I used to use to this end.
Note, I said that used to use it. Fact is, when you pull out a laptop or whatever on the train, it seems everybody wants to look over your shoulder at what you're doing. They especially like to pry it seems when you are using a PDA + keyboard, because they don't seem to be all that common yet.
When I'm writing a horror novel with graphic violence in it, the last thing I want is someone looking over my shoulder so that I have to explain why I'm writing about people getting hacked to itty bitty pieces. This made me uncomfortable back in the day, but since 9/11, I wouldn't dare work on the thing on an airplane, lest I get accused by some brainless stewardess of being a terrorist or something.
If I had a wearable however, no one would be able to see my screen but me. I could write my book/play quake/surf porn/whatever, and no one would be the wiser. I could even work on sensitive corporate documents/code without having to worry about being so easily spied on.
Now if only they weren't so expensive:-(
And yes, I have seen other solutions to this problem, i.e. overlays for your screen that either only transmit the screen's contents when viewed at a certain angle (i.e. straight on), or that require you to wear special polarized glasses to see the screen. However they seem a little too obtrusive for me. If you look at your neighbour's laptop, and all the screen shows is a bunch of locks and chains (like this product), then you're probably going to either start asking them questions, or start wondering what they're looking at that is so secret. With a head mounted display, you'll probably think they're too weird to be bothered asking them questions:-) That and apparently the screen protectors don't work so good in the type of lighting conditions one would find on the train.
Not that the current generation of head mounted displays aren't far too obtrusive as well, but at least with a head mounted display, I could get a virtual screen size of 21" or so with a decent resolution, rather than a piddly laptop display, or even worse, and even more piddly PDA display with a crap-ass resolution.
In the case of a hacker, who may be operating across State lines, it is proper for the Federal Government to get involved.
Ok, so how is this any different than if you and I stand on opposite sides of the border of two states, and I shoot you in the head from across the line?
One would think that if they were going to make a law, that they would make it a little more generic... I fail to see why killing someone with a computer should have to be treated any differently that using any other tool, whether it be knife, gun, cow launched via catapult, etc.
See, that's funny, because Canada (is possibly the only country to?) already fought off an American invasion of conquest.
:-)
I seem to recall that our British allies also burnt their capitol to the ground...
This is the beauty of OPEN SOURCE!! He got ahold of some code, modified and improved it, and released it back into the public domain! That's how it's SUPPOSED to work!
:-)
Dude, don't be giving Microsoft any more ammo for their "viral GPL" FUD
Mechanik
So all P2P users / software makers need to do to circumvent this, is to agree on a specific MD5 sum, then patch every file so that they produce this same MD5 sum :)
:-)
That would totally pooch clients such as E-Donkey that use MD5 hashes to actually figure out which clients have a particular file (whether just a portion thereof, or in their entirety), irrespective of how each individual client may have renamed it.
And trust me, there are fringe benefits to the hashing as well, such as making it apparent when someone is trying to masquerade a file as something that it's really not.
E.g., consider the following scenario...
1. You are searching for Red Hat ISOs.
2. You find a match called "Red Hat.iso" shared from one user.
3. You notice that there are 50 other users sharing the same file.
3. The other 50 versions are named as "Goatse.cx guy and tubgirl together at last.mpg"
4. Therefore, something is very very rotten in Denmark...
Mechanik
Here's a link to what you're talking about:
Third Base
There is just something funny about the concept of Slashdotters needing to follow a hyperlink in order to get to third base...
Mechanik
Sorry, I said Brazilian, but I just realized it's actually Spanish. That damned green colour scheme threw me off and I didn't actually look closely at the URL until just now :-)
I was following various links about the topic (artificial intelligence and poker) when I found this little gem. Wicked awesome site design, so I can only assume that his software building skills are as magnificent: POKER WITH AI-LEARNING
I say we help him beta test not only his program, but also help him stress-test his web server.
He's might be on the level, but I am a bit too paranoid to go to some fly-by-night brazilian website and download binary-only software to my machine that the author outright tells me is going to be emailing stuff back to him. This could all be one big Trojan.
What is more:
This option does not work for some configurations of Internet connection. If this option does not work please attach the file POKER_IA.MDB and send it to me, so I can join it to my DB.
So if it's a trojan, and your firewall/email settings don't let the compromised data through, he socially engineers you into sending it to him yourself!
Apologies to this guy if his stuff actually does what he says it does, but I think I'm going to pass just to be safe.
Mechanik
Well, if you actually read the appropriate Penny Arcade news post, you'd know the following:
We received several translations of the title "Zettai Zetsumei Toshi," which means something along the lines of "the umbrella thieves." This actually kind of creeped me out - I thought it was sort of goofy to focus on losing our umbrella the way we did, but then I like fifteen people tell me that somebody taking your umbrella is practically a Goddamn epidemic in Tokyo. What's more, it's a cascading effect, so when somebody takes your umbrella, you just go take Bob-san's, and then Bob-San takes somebody else-san's umbrella, and now we're in this sorry state where proper preservation from the elements is concerned.
Mechanik
Given Gabe's love of Viewtiful Joe, I can't wait to see the inevitable comic devoted to this game...
And he probably will import it too. I mean shit, he imported that stupid goddamned "Umbrella Thieves" game...
Mechanik
FYI, it is generally accepted that the fourth plane was shot down by the US military. No doubt heroics were attempted, but it is unclear whether they succeeded.
Generally accepted? I know that the theory has been floated (mostly be conspiracy theorists), but I think it's a bit far to say it's generally accepted isn't it?
The only theory I'd call "generally accepted" is that the terrorists on that flight had an explosive device of some sort. From what I recall from the news reports (I could be wrong -- it's been 2 years almost after all), one of the passengers mentioned it when they called someone via their cellphone. Or maybe it was one of the terrorists that said they had it over the radio... I can't remember. I do remember it being mentioned extensively in the media though.
Can anyone point me to any evidence that the plane was shot down? Not that I don't think it could have happened, but I don't think the theory can be considered "generally accepted" if all we have to go on is gut feelings, conjecture, or signals received on tinfoil hats.
Mechanik
If you cancel your service, then the ISP could cite your lifetime loss of business as a loss of tens of thousands of dollars, and hopefully finally get the FBI off their asses to arrest this dude.
:-)
So if you cancel, you will be doing your ISP and soceity in general a favour
What do we need to do to get one of these donated to Project Gutenberg? Right now one of the biggest things holding them up is a lack of volunteers to manually scan the books.
Mechanik
The Blood series was first-rate
Evidently you didn't play Blood 2: The Chosen. It's almost universally reviled as one of the most horrid FPS games of all time. Certainly not the worst, but definitely bad.
Some will probably cry foul when I say this, but I thought it was worse than Daikatana by far, especially if you were playing the original demo that was so horribly non-optimized that you were lucky to get 20-25 frames a second, even with a good 3D card at the time that would run, say, Half-Life (a much more visually attractive game) at 40 or so FPS.
Mechanik
This would be a much more useful announcment if they had written the software for Palm's Tungsten T and the on-board C55x DSP half of its OMAP 1510 processor.
This way:
a) It wouldn't hog 100% of your CPU... you'd actually be able to, you know, DO STUFF while listening to the radio
b) You wouldn't hose your whole battery in virtually no time. The C55x has a WAY better power/mips ratio than XScale, not to mention you're going to use way less mips in the first place by virtue of it being a DSP that's actually designed to do Digital Signal Processing.
Mechanik
The Snake brothers... the Snake on the patriots flag, the snake like metal gear ray...
Actually, the patriots' flag in MGS2 was supposed to be a reproduction of the "Don't tread on me" flags flown by members of the American revolution. So, I don't think it was so much his "snake fetish" as much as it was a total fit for the "Sons of Liberty" concept.
Mechanik
Just great. As an Easter Egg homage to the movie Memento, I suggest the following as default things to retrieve for pictures of Joe Pantaliano:
Do not believe his lies.
He is the one. KILL HIM.
Of course, this would be hell for Joe's friends, relatives, and associates. Maybe we better chip in for Joe's plastic surgery now...
Mechanik
You didn't get the memo? There is no more fair use for anything electronic any more.
I guess he was too busy putting the new coversheet on his TPS reports...
Mechanik
lemme see what I can think of right away:
* silent
* no recoil
* less resupply problems (lay a power cable to the forward camp instead of moving trucks full of ammo)
* if constructed right, can be enclosed completely = less susceptable to dirt, dust and water
* if using invisible light (IR/UV) doesn't give away your position through muzzle flashes
* more accuracy due to a reduce "time to impact" (from pulling the trigger to impact, it's half a second at 500 yards)
Let's not forget the perfectly flat trajectory as well. Instead of having to compensate for distance and wind, just point and click just like your favourite FPS -- your sights will always be perfectly zeroed. Aiming at and hitting an enemy 1000 yards away will not be appreciably different than hitting one 50 yards away.
Of course, there would still be environmental factors to worry about such as smoke or thick fog that could refract the beam or reduce its effectiveness.
And then there's the factor of them not having much in the way of moving parts, and no chemical propellants, and thus not having to be cleaned very often in comparison to your average rifle.
Mechanik
Well, I think we can agree in this case at least, that the background check left something to be desired, and this guy was as loopy as a fruitcake.
True, but it's hard to say if he was loopy when he obtained the gun. It's perfectly possible that he bought it twenty years ago when he was perfectly sane, and that he went loopy since then. It's also perfectly possible that he was totally off his rocker the moment he bought it, and the shop keeper and whomever does the background check (cops) just had no way to know.
Yes you can argue that the system perhaps needs improvement (we really don't have enough details to argue that one way or the other), but I don't see how you can fault them if they followed the system and the guy checked out.
If a bartender sells someone a drink and then lets them get into a car when the bartender knows or suspects the customer is intoxicated the bartender and the estabilshment that sold the drink can be held negligent. Similary if a car dealership sold a car to someone who was plastered they'd likely be liable the second he got behind the wheel.
Yes but that's if they sell them booze/cars when they're already drunk. I'm talking about suing the car dealership for selling the guy the car, even though he doesn't get drunk and kill someone until later. Hell, maybe even years later. Are they still liable then?
Regarding steak knives, well, I can think of substantial "non-infringing" uses for steak knives, like eating steak, or, apparently, sawing through soda cans then cutting tomato slices. Guns, particularly handguns, have a much more limited range of uses.
Well there are plenty of legal uses for guns too -- target shooting for instance. Whether or not everyone likes them, they are still legal. Whether they should be legal or not (which although you haven't said it, seems to be what you think is the problem), well, that's a whole other kettle of fish that we probably don't need to get into.
What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter what was sold. The point is that if you legally sell someone a legal item that they are legally able to purchase, and you have no reason to suspect any wrongdoing, then you shouldn't be held liable. If the guy was sold a gun after showing up drunk, or coming into the shop proudly declaring that he was going to use it to kill someone, then yes, obviously the shop keeper bears some significant blame, but we have no indication that anything of the sort happened.
Mechanik
What about the people who sold him his guns?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but assuming you're not...
Assuming the guns and ammunition were sold in accordance to the law (and not obtained illegally), and the seller had no reason to suspect any wrongdoing, then I don't see how you can blame the seller for the crime. Might as well blame WalMart the next time someone gets stabbed in a domestic dispute on account of the fact that WalMart sold them the steak knife. Or the liquor store for selling someone that 40 of vodka they drank before running down someone in a drunk driving mishap. Or hell, why not sue the dealership that sold him the car?
Leaving all that aside, there is still a fundamental difference. You don't have a legal right to prevent everyone that knows you from not owning guns. You do however have a right to privacy. The violation of the deceased's right to privacy led to their death, i.e., the search firm acted illegally when they should have known better than to do so, and that negligence led to the victim's death. Unless you can prove that whomever sold the murderer the guns was similarly negligent, then I don't see how they should be at fault.
Mechanik
The problem is that the word 'Windows' can be used for those transparent panes of glass. I suggest we rename them to "Gates Holes" as in The microsoft building has HUGE Gates Holes.
Then people will think Bill Gates is the goatse.cx guy, and we'll all be sued for libel.
Mechanik
Ah yes, when computer magazines weren't 90% ads
There are still magazines like this. Ever heard of 2600 magazine?
Mechanik
Then we can work on running out of ipV6 space. Each one of my socks can have an ip address! Where's my blue shirt? I'll just ping it!
You won't be able to find your way to it though unless you do traceroute...
Mechanik
Well, if I REALLY need to stay awake/alert, a nice 20 oz bottle of Jolt with some Sky Rocket caffeinated syrup (100 mg caffeine and 18 g of sugar per ounce... YOWZA!) in it does the trick nicely.
You have to be careful though. This combination will wire you hot enough to pitch a Chevy. The first time I tried it, I didn't really know how much to use, and I think I ended up putting like 6 ounces of Sky Rocket into the mix. I was so hyper, I actually had to resist the urge to go leapfrogging around the office over people's desk chairs at 9 am. You would be surprised at what seems like a good idea when seen through 700 mg of caffeine that is ingested in under 5 minutes.
Sometimes recommended serving sizes are there for a reason...
Mechanik
Personally, I want a wearable computer for privacy reasons. I take a commuter train for about an hour one way to and from work, and like to work on stuff (specifically, I'm working on a novel in my spare time) while I'm on the train. In fact, I even have a Visor Prism + keyboard that I used to use to this end.
:-(
:-) That and apparently the screen protectors don't work so good in the type of lighting conditions one would find on the train.
Note, I said that used to use it. Fact is, when you pull out a laptop or whatever on the train, it seems everybody wants to look over your shoulder at what you're doing. They especially like to pry it seems when you are using a PDA + keyboard, because they don't seem to be all that common yet.
When I'm writing a horror novel with graphic violence in it, the last thing I want is someone looking over my shoulder so that I have to explain why I'm writing about people getting hacked to itty bitty pieces. This made me uncomfortable back in the day, but since 9/11, I wouldn't dare work on the thing on an airplane, lest I get accused by some brainless stewardess of being a terrorist or something.
If I had a wearable however, no one would be able to see my screen but me. I could write my book/play quake/surf porn/whatever, and no one would be the wiser. I could even work on sensitive corporate documents/code without having to worry about being so easily spied on.
Now if only they weren't so expensive
And yes, I have seen other solutions to this problem, i.e. overlays for your screen that either only transmit the screen's contents when viewed at a certain angle (i.e. straight on), or that require you to wear special polarized glasses to see the screen. However they seem a little too obtrusive for me. If you look at your neighbour's laptop, and all the screen shows is a bunch of locks and chains (like this product), then you're probably going to either start asking them questions, or start wondering what they're looking at that is so secret. With a head mounted display, you'll probably think they're too weird to be bothered asking them questions
Not that the current generation of head mounted displays aren't far too obtrusive as well, but at least with a head mounted display, I could get a virtual screen size of 21" or so with a decent resolution, rather than a piddly laptop display, or even worse, and even more piddly PDA display with a crap-ass resolution.
Mechanik
In the case of a hacker, who may be operating across State lines, it is proper for the Federal Government to get involved.
Ok, so how is this any different than if you and I stand on opposite sides of the border of two states, and I shoot you in the head from across the line?
One would think that if they were going to make a law, that they would make it a little more generic... I fail to see why killing someone with a computer should have to be treated any differently that using any other tool, whether it be knife, gun, cow launched via catapult, etc.
Mechanik