"Discharge of a firearm in most rural areas is still illegal where your life isn't in danger."
Wrong. Clearly you're an urbanite or suburbanite. In rural areas we can fire off our guns any time we like. We can point them up in the sky too. The point of having a shotgun is specifically to shoot ariel targets without having the bullets go too far. Instead the shot slows down and drops safely without hurting people if you miss your target. But then you're too ignorant and uneducated about firearms and laws to know this.
"The rest of the world calls that corn. We've been genetically modifying it for all of recorded history."
Stop perpetuating Big Corp lies. Selective breeding is not the same thing as genetically modifying. The latter involves transferring genes directly, typically from other species. You know that. Stop the lies. I would give you 100 trollop points if I had them.
200' is too low and an invasion of privacy. They should not fly over other people's property lower than the height that aircraft are allowed which is far higher. The drone operators were at fault for flying low and spying on people. Time to put forth clear rules on this. It should be fine to fly a drone in a public park where it is expressly permitted or over your own land but not over someone else's land. Simple trespassing.
Due to aerodynamic issues and bone density pigs can not fly. I know as I have been breeding thousands of pigs for over a decade. Despite our best efforts we have not been able to achieve unpowered pig flight. The few pigs we have gotten to fly required launching with a catapult and that just isn't practical for most small scale pig airports.
"This is a universally a very bad idea. Discharging any weapon in a populated area except at a proper range or in defense of your life is generally illegal and a very bad idea."
I have a strong suspicion you don't know anything about guns but are afraid of them, partially because you don't know anything about them. Please get educated. This was a shotgun. Shotguns are designed to be safe when fired __UP__ into the air because the pellets come down _slowly_ and are non-lethal.
"I suspect he would be facing the same charges if he were merely shooting crows in his backyard."
Ah, there, you just proved you know nothing about guns and hunting. Please read up on the laws about shooting crows. You deserve to be educated even if you have to do-it-yourself. Please.
Instead of firing the gun - firing a gun within the city limits seems to be the real issue - the property owner perhaps could have used a slingshot or stone. I can throw a rock accurately about 70' up. I can use a slingshot for far greater distances. The shotgun was a safe weapon to choose although apparently illegal in that location. So let that be a lesson to us all. Plan how you are going to deal with drones and have your slingshots ready.
A more interesting question is going to be: "what is on the memory card?" Since this is a criminal case the police should have take the drone and card as evidence. The defense for the homeowner can demand to see them. If they show photos targeting people, looking in windows then the stick may turn around and hit the drone owners hard up the side of the head.
What I really hope is this whole case goes to the Supreme Court and resolves a lot of these pending issues.
>>I actually hope the guy who shot it down just gets a small fine and let go.
>I'd much rather see the jury demand to know why the victim, and not the four perps, is being prosecuted, with a not guilty verdict. Considering where this took place, it's possible.
I would much rather see the drone operators treated as the trespass criminals that they are and convicted of trespassing. Time to get serious about personal arial space. They don't have the right to fly over other people's home and spy on them. If they want to fly a drone they need to do it over their own land, not over someone else's property. You can't snowmobile on my property. You can't dirt bike on my property. You can't walk on my property. You also should not be flying over it at low altitudes.
Another point - for those who don't understand - shotguns are specifically designed for safely shooting arial targets without having the 'bullet' - pellets as the case is really - come down and hurt someone. A bullet such as a.22 comes down a long ways away, a high speed and can still kill. Shotgun pellets come down at a short range and at a slow speed because they lose their energy to wind resistance very quickly. This is what makes shotguns safe to use for arial shooting - e.g., birds. It is not at all like in the movies. In fact, forget everything you've seen in the movies as that's virtually all faked with wires.
"[open carry] most of the world cringes at that, and it's something Americans cherish."
Not really. Most of the world has open carry or wants it but can't have it because of totalitarian governments. They don't cringe about our having open carry they desire it.
Open carry is not a problem. Here in Vermont we have virtually no gun laws. The rule in Vermont is you can't buy a gun with the intent of doing bad. Everything else is fine. And yet, despite the anti-gun-nut claims to the contrary having guns doesn't cause problems. Vermont has a very low total and a very low per-capita rate of gun violence. In fact, a very large portion of our gun violence is being done by police against citizens. Jeezum!
Correct. It varies with species and with how well you know them. However using words does not necessarily reflect how you think. And one can think in multiple ways.
As an example: We have a large pack of working dogs on our farm who help with our livestock, keep down predators and assist us in tasks.
Our dogs have their own language. It is a mix of vocal and body language.
Our dogs understand a large part of our human language - English in our case.
We and the dogs also have a common pidgin language between us that is a mix of hand signs, body signs, vocalizations and English words. We have about 300 words in pidgin that we use back and forth between us. Some of the dogs use more words than others. Some rarely talk but clearly understand and every once in a while they will say something.
Yes, the dogs do speak some English words. Their vocal tracts aren't well suited to the task so they don't use very many spoken English words. More commonly they use signs or the pidgin words they can pronounce. But that's like us too - we can't pronounce some of the things in their language even though I can understand it when they same them.
When talking to us they use words to us like Yes and No to narrow down a conversation. They will tell us to Come, say the names of predators to alert us to issues, tell us if there is a problem with the livestock and often what the problem is. They have names for each other in their language and they know the names we use for them. They also have names for us. My name in their language sounds like rocks being gargled.
The dogs are heavy into pointing. We point with our hands and they understand that. They point with their muzzles and we understand that.
One of our dogs in particular has a very foul mouth. She cusses something awful when she's pissed about something. That's Katya. She is the smallest but she talks like a sailor as the saying goes...
Have fun. I hope you don't get too bored since I almost never use the phone and I never say anything on it that matters... Virtually all of my communications are via email - which is an open postcard so nothing interesting there either - and email is not hackable. It is the Android system that is the subject of the hacking in the original poster's article or perhaps you didn't read that. That's why candles, tin cans, old dial up phones have an advantage - they're simply not remotely hackable. So hook into the line and listen to your hearts content while you continue to miss the point.:)
Ah, but there's the rub. You think the Android phone a cool new thing. What Smartphones really are is gussied up old tech (voice) with a new suit that makes them more vulnerable. I very rarely use voice phone. I use email which is far faster and more efficient. I also don't communicate things via email that are worth "listening" into so the fact that email is a postcard is not an issue either. In either case, you can't hack my email the way the Android phone hack is being done - that was the point of the original poster's article.
Email simply more efficient than voice no matter how fancy your phone. Catch up with the times and ditch your phone.
No Android. No smartphone. No cellphone. My telephone's an old fashion really dumb land line. One thing you gotta love about being behind the times is not getting hacked.
People who just need a car like a taxi to take them from one place to the other will benefit greatly from the robocar and not having to own or maintain it. Mostly this is going to be in urban and suburban environments.
People who have cars that are entertainment for them will not want to share their toys.
People who live in very rural areas will not get this shared benefit.
People who need specialized vehicles - extremely common in rural environments - will not be able to do the shared gig. We customized our truck so that it has a animal carrier area in the back interior for hauling livestock each week to butcher, a middle section that switches between refrigerated and passenger space and a forward space that is for driver and navigator. Believe me, you don't want to share our vehicle - we haul pigs in it every week. I also don't want you sharing it because I need our specialized vehicle ready for hauling pigs and not messed up by someone else.
What the robocars are probably going to do is replace taxis, some subways and some buses to a large extent. Run of the mill people moving. The easy stuff.
This doesn't matter. Walmart, MacDonalds and other big retailers will be requiring GMO labeling, rejecting GMO products and they already banned other GMOs (rBGH/rBST). The market place will reach out and slash the GMO producers to little bits.
Our customers don't want GMOs. They vote with their wallet. It's Capitalism with the big 'C' working.
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Hot. We're looking at putting in a 20MegaWatt solar array on our farm. This would be a cool tool.
"Discharge of a firearm in most rural areas is still illegal where your life isn't in danger."
Wrong. Clearly you're an urbanite or suburbanite. In rural areas we can fire off our guns any time we like. We can point them up in the sky too. The point of having a shotgun is specifically to shoot ariel targets without having the bullets go too far. Instead the shot slows down and drops safely without hurting people if you miss your target. But then you're too ignorant and uneducated about firearms and laws to know this.
"The rest of the world calls that corn. We've been genetically modifying it for all of recorded history."
Stop perpetuating Big Corp lies. Selective breeding is not the same thing as genetically modifying. The latter involves transferring genes directly, typically from other species. You know that. Stop the lies. I would give you 100 trollop points if I had them.
No, mountains of Vermont. We grow Macintosh here. It's the state of the art Apple. :)
One more reason not to have windows in your home or business...
200' is too low and an invasion of privacy. They should not fly over other people's property lower than the height that aircraft are allowed which is far higher. The drone operators were at fault for flying low and spying on people. Time to put forth clear rules on this. It should be fine to fly a drone in a public park where it is expressly permitted or over your own land but not over someone else's land. Simple trespassing.
Due to aerodynamic issues and bone density pigs can not fly. I know as I have been breeding thousands of pigs for over a decade. Despite our best efforts we have not been able to achieve unpowered pig flight. The few pigs we have gotten to fly required launching with a catapult and that just isn't practical for most small scale pig airports.
Compassion is highly overrated.
*grin*
"This is a universally a very bad idea. Discharging any weapon in a populated area except at a proper range or in defense of your life is generally illegal and a very bad idea."
I have a strong suspicion you don't know anything about guns but are afraid of them, partially because you don't know anything about them. Please get educated. This was a shotgun. Shotguns are designed to be safe when fired __UP__ into the air because the pellets come down _slowly_ and are non-lethal.
"I suspect he would be facing the same charges if he were merely shooting crows in his backyard."
Ah, there, you just proved you know nothing about guns and hunting. Please read up on the laws about shooting crows. You deserve to be educated even if you have to do-it-yourself. Please.
The police won't do anything.
Instead of firing the gun - firing a gun within the city limits seems to be the real issue - the property owner perhaps could have used a slingshot or stone. I can throw a rock accurately about 70' up. I can use a slingshot for far greater distances. The shotgun was a safe weapon to choose although apparently illegal in that location. So let that be a lesson to us all. Plan how you are going to deal with drones and have your slingshots ready.
A more interesting question is going to be: "what is on the memory card?" Since this is a criminal case the police should have take the drone and card as evidence. The defense for the homeowner can demand to see them. If they show photos targeting people, looking in windows then the stick may turn around and hit the drone owners hard up the side of the head.
What I really hope is this whole case goes to the Supreme Court and resolves a lot of these pending issues.
>>I actually hope the guy who shot it down just gets a small fine and let go.
>I'd much rather see the jury demand to know why the victim, and not the four perps, is being prosecuted, with a not guilty verdict. Considering where this took place, it's possible.
I would much rather see the drone operators treated as the trespass criminals that they are and convicted of trespassing. Time to get serious about personal arial space. They don't have the right to fly over other people's home and spy on them. If they want to fly a drone they need to do it over their own land, not over someone else's property. You can't snowmobile on my property. You can't dirt bike on my property. You can't walk on my property. You also should not be flying over it at low altitudes.
Another point - for those who don't understand - shotguns are specifically designed for safely shooting arial targets without having the 'bullet' - pellets as the case is really - come down and hurt someone. A bullet such as a .22 comes down a long ways away, a high speed and can still kill. Shotgun pellets come down at a short range and at a slow speed because they lose their energy to wind resistance very quickly. This is what makes shotguns safe to use for arial shooting - e.g., birds. It is not at all like in the movies. In fact, forget everything you've seen in the movies as that's virtually all faked with wires.
"[open carry] most of the world cringes at that, and it's something Americans cherish."
Not really. Most of the world has open carry or wants it but can't have it because of totalitarian governments. They don't cringe about our having open carry they desire it.
Open carry is not a problem. Here in Vermont we have virtually no gun laws. The rule in Vermont is you can't buy a gun with the intent of doing bad. Everything else is fine. And yet, despite the anti-gun-nut claims to the contrary having guns doesn't cause problems. Vermont has a very low total and a very low per-capita rate of gun violence. In fact, a very large portion of our gun violence is being done by police against citizens. Jeezum!
Correct. It varies with species and with how well you know them. However using words does not necessarily reflect how you think. And one can think in multiple ways.
As an example: We have a large pack of working dogs on our farm who help with our livestock, keep down predators and assist us in tasks.
Our dogs have their own language. It is a mix of vocal and body language.
Our dogs understand a large part of our human language - English in our case.
We and the dogs also have a common pidgin language between us that is a mix of hand signs, body signs, vocalizations and English words. We have about 300 words in pidgin that we use back and forth between us. Some of the dogs use more words than others. Some rarely talk but clearly understand and every once in a while they will say something.
Yes, the dogs do speak some English words. Their vocal tracts aren't well suited to the task so they don't use very many spoken English words. More commonly they use signs or the pidgin words they can pronounce. But that's like us too - we can't pronounce some of the things in their language even though I can understand it when they same them.
When talking to us they use words to us like Yes and No to narrow down a conversation. They will tell us to Come, say the names of predators to alert us to issues, tell us if there is a problem with the livestock and often what the problem is. They have names for each other in their language and they know the names we use for them. They also have names for us. My name in their language sounds like rocks being gargled.
The dogs are heavy into pointing. We point with our hands and they understand that. They point with their muzzles and we understand that.
One of our dogs in particular has a very foul mouth. She cusses something awful when she's pissed about something. That's Katya. She is the smallest but she talks like a sailor as the saying goes...
Have fun. I hope you don't get too bored since I almost never use the phone and I never say anything on it that matters... Virtually all of my communications are via email - which is an open postcard so nothing interesting there either - and email is not hackable. It is the Android system that is the subject of the hacking in the original poster's article or perhaps you didn't read that. That's why candles, tin cans, old dial up phones have an advantage - they're simply not remotely hackable. So hook into the line and listen to your hearts content while you continue to miss the point. :)
Ah, but there's the rub. You think the Android phone a cool new thing. What Smartphones really are is gussied up old tech (voice) with a new suit that makes them more vulnerable. I very rarely use voice phone. I use email which is far faster and more efficient. I also don't communicate things via email that are worth "listening" into so the fact that email is a postcard is not an issue either. In either case, you can't hack my email the way the Android phone hack is being done - that was the point of the original poster's article.
Email simply more efficient than voice no matter how fancy your phone. Catch up with the times and ditch your phone.
No, this article was specific to the Android. Try to stay on topic no matter how your mind wanders...
No Android.
No smartphone.
No cellphone.
My telephone's an old fashion really dumb land line. One thing you gotta love about being behind the times is not getting hacked.
For some sharing will work but not for others.
People who just need a car like a taxi to take them from one place to the other will benefit greatly from the robocar and not having to own or maintain it. Mostly this is going to be in urban and suburban environments.
People who have cars that are entertainment for them will not want to share their toys.
People who live in very rural areas will not get this shared benefit.
People who need specialized vehicles - extremely common in rural environments - will not be able to do the shared gig. We customized our truck so that it has a animal carrier area in the back interior for hauling livestock each week to butcher, a middle section that switches between refrigerated and passenger space and a forward space that is for driver and navigator. Believe me, you don't want to share our vehicle - we haul pigs in it every week. I also don't want you sharing it because I need our specialized vehicle ready for hauling pigs and not messed up by someone else.
What the robocars are probably going to do is replace taxis, some subways and some buses to a large extent. Run of the mill people moving. The easy stuff.
"it's about cold memorization and mathematical probabilities"
How odd. I never saw Scrabble as being anything but the above with one more element, quick recall. It's a database and probabilities game.
This is Google's opportunity to kill two birds with one stone and do no evil:
Forget Universal Pictures and the contractor.
And now, live on SharkCam 3 is a swimmer being eaten!
Certification tends to become a problem because it drives the education rather than testing the skills.
It's big business as usual. They take something simple and good like bacon and ruin the idea with a huge level of processing to make a fake version.
Life is short. Eat real bacon.
This doesn't matter. Walmart, MacDonalds and other big retailers will be requiring GMO labeling, rejecting GMO products and they already banned other GMOs (rBGH/rBST). The market place will reach out and slash the GMO producers to little bits.
Our customers don't want GMOs. They vote with their wallet. It's Capitalism with the big 'C' working.