Nevertheless, we feel compelled to treat them in a "humane manner", the way that we would treat the naturally "good" people.
"Humane" treatment isn't reserved for good persons. That's the whole point of being humane.
If someone tortures woodland creatures and beats his unruly children, but rewards the kid who's good, we don't consider that person a humanitarian. If you advocate ethnic cleansing, holocausts against belief systems or firestorms to expunge the wicked, you're also not a humanitarian.
I agree there was no chance that the devices could have harmed the structures they were attached to. The problem comes down to this
The post was responding to someone's mention that they were "in an airport" and that is why the city freaked out -- "airline security" and all that. It was refuting that, saying they weren't in an airport, or even within damage-range of an airport.
We already know a bomb can hurt us. Your scenario doesn't contribute anything to the inquiry, "is assuming EVERYthing is about to hurt us, a reasonable way to exist?"
Think like a terrorist. Here's an example. What did you see in NYC on 9/11? Masses of people trying to get out of the city.
So -- what if you placed devices to kill or injure people fleeing the city.
That's completely silly. You're saying someone believed they made these highly visible devices on bridges and tunnels, in hopes that it would scare people into fleeing into those bridges and tunnels?
That's even beside the point that you suggested a massive, complicated attack; getting an entire city to flee in panic just to have a few dozen people killed by nailbombs.
And then next year when some maniac makes the same device, only this time attaches a block of C4 to it, who will you hold responsible when it blows up a few dozen of your fellow citizens
Umm...the maniac...?
Let's put it back to you: And then next year when some maniac makes (billboards, mailboxes, bicycles, a backpack he's wearing, his own briefcase in his hand) with a block of C4 attached, who will you hold responsible when it kills, because the PD doesn't randomly search everyone/thing you see on the street, in a constant bombhunt?
Tell ya what, give me your address and I'll personally drop off a package at your front door.
Fine. I'm not in the habit of indulging such extreme self-importance that I believe there's a terrorist group coming after me, personally. Or that if they were, they wouldn't just shoot me, that they'd need to make a grand production out of my death. I'm a nobody. So are you.
I just don't see what any of this has to do with the scare. Not everything's a polar extreme...you can do something in between "nothing at all" and "treat the entire city like its under attack."
...and there's a hook on the handle of the door! No, damn, that's that urban legend.
Anyone think the title was really misleading? I read "Doomsday Seed Vault" and thought of a mad scientist with a cache of genetically-modified super-lame-crops being unleashed on the world and wiping out our food supply, if we didn't give in to his demands.
Americans also have the oft-ignored, "Jury Nullification" which allows a jury to claim that, though the act technically violated the law, and the defendant is guilty, they did not act wrongly and shouldn't be punished. Essentially, the jury can say, "case dismissed."
THAT is where a legal system gets good. It allows you to put the law, itself, on trial per-case. That's not exclusive to the USA, I'm sure, but this "innocent until proven guilty" thing everyone's on about is pedestrian.
A site full of supposedly enlightened "geeks," and when a story about how NASA wishes to prevent relationships on long flights in cramped quarters, and almost every (+5, Funny) comment is "easy, make the crew all men or all women."
There's this thing. It's called The Gay. Lots of people have it, and it's very serious.
"... dual-core workstation that provides blazing x64 performance... Starts at a list price of U.S. $895 (single-core) or $995 (dual-core)" -- that's the standard deal, apparently. They know how to compete, at some level.
First, it was a joke. Second, the joke was that one would claim "every"thing and not expose themself to anything beyond mainstream pop (there's a whole world out there that isn't stuffed down your throat by marketing geeks, and you have to find it for yourself.)
Someone either open-minded, or pretentious, or ignorant enough to like "everything" is rare...but for someone take that stance and not pursue it, by at least experimenting with what's out there, at all, makes them a tool. Therein lies the humor.
So, the pirate said, "it's drivin me nuts" because it was making him mad, while playing on the fact he had a steering wheel, used for driving, attached to his nuts.
A. What do you find attractive about aggressive, angry music if you're so mellow and easygoing? Surely there's something a bit significant going on beneath the surface?
B. If an exception to the rule exists, that rule might still exist.
C. Maybe my correlation seemed too direct and literal. One can be an aggressive person and claim an affinity for light music, and vice versa, but there's still an identity issue there. It's how one wishes to be perceived, how one perceives oneself, or what one wishes to be -- for example, enigmatic or eclectic..
That's why the French are world-renowned for their productivity and work ethic.
(I worked in France. It's very easy to get used to the mid-afternoon wine break, and even easier to a work environment that can only be called "Existentialist.")
and your subculture is most accurately represented by its music acts.
I can determine more about a person I meet from, "I like Brittney Spears and Justin Timberlake" or "I have two playlists: GWAR, and other" (including their willingness to admit either of those) than I can from half a dozen other interests and opinions.
Clothing often crosses subcultures, as do slang, political opinion, religious belief and behavior, but there are very people whose personality and approach to life will defy their music tastes. When was the last time you met a hyper-aggressive, Type-A asshole who lists smooth Jazz before Metallica?
Of course, when you meet someone who says they like "everything" and then proceeds to list mainstream rock AND mainstream rap, know the conversation doesn't need to proceed any further because they're a fucking toolbox.
No, that isn't true at all. If you received the car as a bonus, you didn't "win" it by gambling -- it's "compensation" for work you've done, so the value of the car would be taxable income just as your paycheck, your stock options and your other assets.
If they tried to pretend it's a contest that you're "winning" they'd be prosecuted for rigging a gambling system.
Of course, this comes down to the simple flaw that no one who really wants a luxury car would be willing to have only enough cash in the bank to rent a studio apartment.
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I dunno... Gentoo has been around for a long time... just welcoming them now?
He would've posted his welcome message last year, but mozilla just finished compiling.
Nevertheless, we feel compelled to treat them in a "humane manner", the way that we would treat the naturally "good" people.
"Humane" treatment isn't reserved for good persons. That's the whole point of being humane.
If someone tortures woodland creatures and beats his unruly children, but rewards the kid who's good, we don't consider that person a humanitarian. If you advocate ethnic cleansing, holocausts against belief systems or firestorms to expunge the wicked, you're also not a humanitarian.
It's taken you 10 years to get your system the way you like it? Is this a Gentoo installation?
Don't worry. Someone saying "I guess I am wrong, I'll have to think about what you said" gets modded +5, Interesting.
Interesting. This human has listened to an argument, and concluded its speaker may have a point. What a crazy world!
Order has been restored.
Frylock does.
I suggest we use "synergize" -- synergizing is like Mashing 2.0
Out with the old, static Mashing. In with the synergized New Vocabulary Economy.
I agree there was no chance that the devices could have harmed the structures they were attached to. The problem comes down to this
The post was responding to someone's mention that they were "in an airport" and that is why the city freaked out -- "airline security" and all that. It was refuting that, saying they weren't in an airport, or even within damage-range of an airport.
We already know a bomb can hurt us. Your scenario doesn't contribute anything to the inquiry, "is assuming EVERYthing is about to hurt us, a reasonable way to exist?"
Think like a terrorist. Here's an example. What did you see in NYC on 9/11? Masses of people trying to get out of the city. So -- what if you placed devices to kill or injure people fleeing the city.
That's completely silly. You're saying someone believed they made these highly visible devices on bridges and tunnels, in hopes that it would scare people into fleeing into those bridges and tunnels?
That's even beside the point that you suggested a massive, complicated attack; getting an entire city to flee in panic just to have a few dozen people killed by nailbombs.
And then next year when some maniac makes the same device, only this time attaches a block of C4 to it, who will you hold responsible when it blows up a few dozen of your fellow citizens
Umm...the maniac...?
Let's put it back to you: And then next year when some maniac makes (billboards, mailboxes, bicycles, a backpack he's wearing, his own briefcase in his hand) with a block of C4 attached, who will you hold responsible when it kills, because the PD doesn't randomly search everyone/thing you see on the street, in a constant bombhunt?
Tell ya what, give me your address and I'll personally drop off a package at your front door.
Fine. I'm not in the habit of indulging such extreme self-importance that I believe there's a terrorist group coming after me, personally. Or that if they were, they wouldn't just shoot me, that they'd need to make a grand production out of my death. I'm a nobody. So are you.
I just don't see what any of this has to do with the scare. Not everything's a polar extreme...you can do something in between "nothing at all" and "treat the entire city like its under attack."
...and it's empty! Wait, that was a Geraldo plot.
...and there's a hook on the handle of the door! No, damn, that's that urban legend.
:shrug: Guess I'm just an idealistic dreamer.
Anyone think the title was really misleading? I read "Doomsday Seed Vault" and thought of a mad scientist with a cache of genetically-modified super-lame-crops being unleashed on the world and wiping out our food supply, if we didn't give in to his demands.
is dead.
ONCE AND FOR ALL!
While I'd like to thank our handsomest politicians for coming up
with that solution, I just discovered that Nixon's not bringing the smokes.
Ride a bicycle.
Where's my money?
Americans also have the oft-ignored, "Jury Nullification" which allows a jury to claim that, though the act technically violated the law, and the defendant is guilty, they did not act wrongly and shouldn't be punished. Essentially, the jury can say, "case dismissed."
THAT is where a legal system gets good. It allows you to put the law, itself, on trial per-case. That's not exclusive to the USA, I'm sure, but this "innocent until proven guilty" thing everyone's on about is pedestrian.
A site full of supposedly enlightened "geeks," and when a story about how NASA wishes to prevent relationships on long flights in cramped quarters, and almost every (+5, Funny) comment is "easy, make the crew all men or all women."
There's this thing. It's called The Gay. Lots of people have it, and it's very serious.
Irrespective of what the wikipedia article says, your wife is ALWAYS RIGHT.
What self-respecting geek would marry a woman who isn't tirelessly seeking the truth and pushing aside her own ego in the pursuit of knowledge?
The whole reason I married my wife is that she's basically never right about anything. Well, that and the jiggle.
http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra20/
... Starts at a list price of U.S. $895 (single-core) or $995 (dual-core)" -- that's the standard deal, apparently. They know how to compete, at some level.
"... dual-core workstation that provides blazing x64 performance
First, it was a joke. Second, the joke was that one would claim "every"thing and not expose themself to anything beyond mainstream pop (there's a whole world out there that isn't stuffed down your throat by marketing geeks, and you have to find it for yourself.)
Someone either open-minded, or pretentious, or ignorant enough to like "everything" is rare...but for someone take that stance and not pursue it, by at least experimenting with what's out there, at all, makes them a tool. Therein lies the humor.
So, the pirate said, "it's drivin me nuts" because it was making him mad, while playing on the fact he had a steering wheel, used for driving, attached to his nuts.
A. What do you find attractive about aggressive, angry music if you're so mellow and easygoing? Surely there's something a bit significant going on beneath the surface?
B. If an exception to the rule exists, that rule might still exist.
C. Maybe my correlation seemed too direct and literal. One can be an aggressive person and claim an affinity for light music, and vice versa, but there's still an identity issue there. It's how one wishes to be perceived, how one perceives oneself, or what one wishes to be -- for example, enigmatic or eclectic..
That's why the French are world-renowned for their productivity and work ethic.
(I worked in France. It's very easy to get used to the mid-afternoon wine break, and even easier to a work environment that can only be called "Existentialist.")
and your subculture is most accurately represented by its music acts.
I can determine more about a person I meet from, "I like Brittney Spears and Justin Timberlake" or "I have two playlists: GWAR, and other" (including their willingness to admit either of those) than I can from half a dozen other interests and opinions.
Clothing often crosses subcultures, as do slang, political opinion, religious belief and behavior, but there are very people whose personality and approach to life will defy their music tastes. When was the last time you met a hyper-aggressive, Type-A asshole who lists smooth Jazz before Metallica?
Of course, when you meet someone who says they like "everything" and then proceeds to list mainstream rock AND mainstream rap, know the conversation doesn't need to proceed any further because they're a fucking toolbox.
"Score:3, Informative"
Thanks for telling us. Good to know, apparently.
I have seen circumstances where a prize winner was forced to sell his prize in order to pay the taxes on it
So you're saying I should wait for someone else to win, then buy it at a reduced rate when the IRS has them at gunpoint...
Damn. If only this were being held in the USA.
That's not something a few hundred million dollars can't fix.
You mean "That's not something a few hundred million dollars in stock can't fix."
You mean that's not something a few hundred million dollars in lawyers can't fix.
I'm not saying I disagree with anything you've said...but could you rephrase it to sound a little less like you've been brainwashed?
No, that isn't true at all. If you received the car as a bonus, you didn't "win" it by gambling -- it's "compensation" for work you've done, so the value of the car would be taxable income just as your paycheck, your stock options and your other assets.
If they tried to pretend it's a contest that you're "winning" they'd be prosecuted for rigging a gambling system.
Of course, this comes down to the simple flaw that no one who really wants a luxury car would be willing to have only enough cash in the bank to rent a studio apartment.