And if everyone torrents everything they watch having new things to torrent wouldn't be a problem either, since there wouldn't be any.
[Citation Needed]
I know people Probably think you are being silly or whatever, but I feel you have a good point.
Some of the things I watch most often are made by regular joes (Four Player Podcast, minecraft videos, speed runs, "let's play") or I can stream to my console with few or no commercials (Netflix, Machinima, Youtube Movies, Hulu).
And now that I have a choice between faster internet or TV, I realize that the stuff I like to watch is being streamed online for free. Movies that I might have torrented are easier to access on Netflix, and can show me related films. TV shows are organized with extra information about them, and can be easily moved between without using up lots of hard drive storage.
//And just fyi, if more channels would either join netflix or form something similar, I think torrenting would slow significantly. High availability, no commercials, easy navigation and such for a low monthly cost? Dang straight I love it.)
"Given the timing involved, I think we can safely say that the PSJailbreak piracy device wouldn't have happened had Sony not pulled OtherOS and prompted homebrew hackers to start breaking into the system, paving the way for thorough analysis. Though admittedly in this case the PSJailbreak developers did more of the work than you'd normally expect (usually, homebrew is well on its way before piracy companies start using it)."
Or you could say that by removing that functionality they made the hacking take longer to finish making working backups than if they had ignored the whole issue.
I am not sure why everyone is on the sides of "Lets make backups of PS3 games". Sony didn't care about our emulators, our homebrew, or our custom programs... it was only when we tried to make easy PS3 game backups that they bothered. And somehow they are evil for protecting the only part of the console that they get ANY money for.
"I don't understand why... keep buying... consoles and other such devices".
Allow me to help.
1) PS3 allows any hard drive, any video camera, any keyboard, any tablet, any printer, etc. It allows you to download random files from the internet, it allows you to play random files and store them on the hard drive, and it allows you to download PSN games onto up to 5 other consoles and let your friends play your games on their profiles. Compared to EVERY OTHER CONSOLE, the PS3 is the most free.
2) Most new games come out for consoles now, due to the fears of piracy on Computers and other non-locked-down devices. And for games that come out on console AND pc, the console has less security and more stable hardware targets. For example, most PS3 games have no 30 digit id codes, no constant Internet access required for single player games, and easy joining with friends with games.
3) Updates are not forced. If you wish to use every service available on the PS3 that worked before the last update, you can. It is only if you want the new features, the new games, and the new services on PSN that you have to upgrade.
4) The Other OS was only taken down AFTER someone started bragging about the ability to copy $60 PS3 games and play them. Until then, people could play emulators, PS1 games, PS2 games, n64, etc. Only 5-6 assholes who are too cheap to afford new games but feel deserving of free stuff ruined it for the rest of us. Or did you want Sony to let this turn out like the PSP, which is so hacked that almost no new games get released for it? They tried to open their system, and they got slapped for it.
So yeah, I bought a PS3 to play PS3 games. The fact that it had all these other benefits were just frosting on the cake. People bitched about the price, so Sony took $100 ps2 out of the system and sold it separately so you could enjoy PS1 and PS2 and not pay for it if you didn't want it.
Sorry, you can get back on your high horse about how evil Sony is. Just wanted to point out that out of all the evil companies out there, Sony is the only one letting you use generic parts and share purchases. Ooo, scary.
Yes, yesterday I used 8 mb of data and now NO ONE ELSE CAN EVER GET THAT AGAIN!
...
Oh wait, you are implying that Internet bandwidth as a highly restricted and limited resource? That I shouldn't use the bandwidth I pay for because they sold more bandwidth to people than they actually had because they thought no one would notice and they could make more money on peoples ignorance?
"Boo Hoo, we offered people 20MB per second but we can only give them 5 and we told them it was unlimited but our hardware is failing and some jerks keep using all the stuff they paid for, which we didn't expect!"
Wow, I seem to have run low on sympathy for them. Maybe when they deliver the 45 symmetrical nation wide broadband that we paid for to be complete in 2006, MAYBE then...
His argument is "I wasn't going to upgrade before (because I liked my system the way it was), but will now DEFINITELY not upgrade now!"
Stupid.
Anyway, the only reason they got rid of the Other OS was because of hackers (like the breakout utility) learning how to gain complete control over the OS and possibly backup games.
This guy's response?
"You guys removed a feature that might have allowed me to run backed up games?! I will show you are wrong by doing exactly what you thought I would do!"
*sigh*. I hope Sony doesn't go all draconian like the 360, Wii, and some of the PC games (One save per computer, constant internet required, locked to one console and one account, no hard drives, no random usb, etc). Assholes have to make life miserable for those of us who use their system as intended.
We had Virtual machine, some ass says "Look, I can hack the system to play backups", they take it away.
Now we are racing to hack the console again, forcing Sony to spend time closing holes instead of adding features in a desperate attempt to prevent people from stealing $60 games.
Don't get me wrong, I hacked my PSP like many other people... and although *I* bought all my games, I still saw the number of releases drop to almost zero. I do not wish to see this happen to a major console, and if a simple "Plug usb to hack PS3" program comes out they will disable all usb.
Guys, Sony did not tell you "You get all future updates and games". If you didn't wish to lose Virtual console, you could have not updated (Keeping all games and features available at the time), but one of the effects of getting new games and services from PS3 is that you agree to their terms.
But whatever. Forget the fact that I can buy a game and share it with up to 5 of my friends ps3's without breaking any laws or voiding any warranty. Forget that I can backup and restore settings to any USB device. Lets force Sony to lock down everything like Madagascar because some guys out there wants free games.
"The one that will garner most attention is the Archos 101. Packing a 10.1-inch (1024 x 600) touchscreen, the device has the same 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 processor as the 70 and 43 and shares a lot of other specs with its lower-end counterparts, including HDMI, USB, WiFi, Micro-SD and a kick stand. This one is the most expensive of the line and it's priced at $299."
Yet the PS3 still has a free (crappy) browser (with flash) while the 360 doesn't.
The PS3 can take any image and turn it into wallpaper while the 360 can't. (Gotta pinch that penny!)
The PS3 can use any external hard drive, can use any laptop hard drive internally, can use any keyboard, any camera, any printer, as well as letting you backup to external thumb drives / hard drives, etc. 360 Charges you massive money while refusing competition.
And most importantly, the PS3 only took away the Linux OS after someone claimed to have hacked it, allowing anyone to steal $60 games and blu-ray on their console that they already sell for a loss, the same thing that helped kill the PSP. The 360 and Wii already have draconian restrictions to keep you from doing this (Can't use external for games, heavy drm on both system and profile, etc).
It wasn't until hackers threatened Sony directly that we lost the virtual machine, and even this was an *OPTIONAL* update, only required if you wished to use future PS3 features.
I know you are trying to build some type of evil Sony gonna kill our kid scenario, but out of everyone on the ball field they offer the most freedom.
True one day they may join the competition in these penny pinching games, but in that mean time why not enjoy the free online demos, browser, and online play?
Also, I can buy stuff that is discounted on Playstation Plus and up to 5 of my friends can log onto my account on their PS3 and download it too, and play with me on their accounts.
Seriously, the ability for me to buy a game and have my friends play with me has made me buy more stuff than I have ever bought from any game company.
"How will they deal with students who have physical disabilities?"
Well, blind kids can have other people read books out loud for them, deaf kids can have other people type subtitles for them, why not have other people play games (Under the direction of the viewer)?
I have played games while younger siblings / kids I was babysitting told me what to do. It works well, and allows people who would normally be unable to play the game to enjoy it as if they had my abilities.
I grabbed a 6 foot 28AWG cord for $3 for my PS3, but you can also grab a 6 foot 24AWG cord for only $6.75. (AWG is the guage of the wire, smaller numbers equals better signals for long distance. )
Forget the 3d crap, with this tech we can now have 4 player 2d coop on ONE SCREEN!
No more tiny/stretched boxes, no more "Screen Watching", no more "Only 2 player" and "Only 1 player per console" etc...
^_^ This is the biggest advancement in actual game tech I have heard from in years!
"In short, Dell's right: if you're new to computing, install Ubuntu. If you have legacy MS apps, bend over!!"
But that is not what Dell is saying.
Dell is saying "If you program open source, install Ubuntu. If you are ANYONE ELSE, then lube up and bend it like beckham!!"
If they *were* saying what you were saying, then I would agree with you/them.
You should try the app "appbrain".
^_^ It is like the market, but much better organized... You can see "what is hot today / week", you can search through categories, etc. You can even install stuff directly to your phone.
In case other people are interested, some good RSS feeds: http://ezrss.it/
I also have seen people use flexget to download all the torrent files, then use the deluge plugin to auto-start and move them when done to the correct folders.
As a person who worked several horrible months as a non-profit telemarketer (95% went to us, 5% to the target... sigh), I can tell you that escalation gets you fired.
Hell, I was fired for "Being too nice". I would not immediately hang up on people, saying things like "Thank you", and "Well thanks for your time", etc, which apparently took too long.
Of course, the most loved employees were the ones who lied out their ass, who said anything to get an extra $5.
"Proper email validation is not trivial"
Why not just send a message with a random pin?
If they get it, then accept it as valid. If it is a fake email, then they are hosing themselves (No password recovery, etc), and they would have given you a fake email anyway (throw away accounts, etc).
Your users will appreciate the lower annoyance factor too. I use Gmail's "Me+tagname@gmail.com" and "M.....e@gmail.com" methods to activate various filters, but I will use fake email if they complain about it.
"Hang on, I am going to duckduckgo 'Can Pelicans eat cats'." "Hey Guys, try duckduckgo'ing "Cat Farts" in youtube!" "I didn't find anything when I duckduckgo'ed it."
Oh yeah, this is going to take off like hotcakes. Google, watch out!
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And if everyone torrents everything they watch having new things to torrent wouldn't be a problem either, since there wouldn't be any.
[Citation Needed]
I know people Probably think you are being silly or whatever, but I feel you have a good point.
//And just fyi, if more channels would either join netflix or form something similar, I think torrenting would slow significantly. High availability, no commercials, easy navigation and such for a low monthly cost? Dang straight I love it.)
Some of the things I watch most often are made by regular joes (Four Player Podcast, minecraft videos, speed runs, "let's play") or I can stream to my console with few or no commercials (Netflix, Machinima, Youtube Movies, Hulu).
And now that I have a choice between faster internet or TV, I realize that the stuff I like to watch is being streamed online for free. Movies that I might have torrented are easier to access on Netflix, and can show me related films. TV shows are organized with extra information about them, and can be easily moved between without using up lots of hard drive storage.
I like them though. You can prefix any url with "bit.ly/" and get a valid shortened url. Handy, easy to remember.
Clearly the sharks used their lasers to escape.
It is, for certain values of "Human".
"Given the timing involved, I think we can safely say that the PSJailbreak piracy device wouldn't have happened had Sony not pulled OtherOS and prompted homebrew hackers to start breaking into the system, paving the way for thorough analysis. Though admittedly in this case the PSJailbreak developers did more of the work than you'd normally expect (usually, homebrew is well on its way before piracy companies start using it)."
Or you could say that by removing that functionality they made the hacking take longer to finish making working backups than if they had ignored the whole issue.
I am not sure why everyone is on the sides of "Lets make backups of PS3 games". Sony didn't care about our emulators, our homebrew, or our custom programs... it was only when we tried to make easy PS3 game backups that they bothered. And somehow they are evil for protecting the only part of the console that they get ANY money for.
"I don't understand why... keep buying ... consoles and other such devices".
Allow me to help.
1) PS3 allows any hard drive, any video camera, any keyboard, any tablet, any printer, etc. It allows you to download random files from the internet, it allows you to play random files and store them on the hard drive, and it allows you to download PSN games onto up to 5 other consoles and let your friends play your games on their profiles. Compared to EVERY OTHER CONSOLE, the PS3 is the most free.
2) Most new games come out for consoles now, due to the fears of piracy on Computers and other non-locked-down devices. And for games that come out on console AND pc, the console has less security and more stable hardware targets. For example, most PS3 games have no 30 digit id codes, no constant Internet access required for single player games, and easy joining with friends with games.
3) Updates are not forced. If you wish to use every service available on the PS3 that worked before the last update, you can. It is only if you want the new features, the new games, and the new services on PSN that you have to upgrade.
4) The Other OS was only taken down AFTER someone started bragging about the ability to copy $60 PS3 games and play them. Until then, people could play emulators, PS1 games, PS2 games, n64, etc. Only 5-6 assholes who are too cheap to afford new games but feel deserving of free stuff ruined it for the rest of us. Or did you want Sony to let this turn out like the PSP, which is so hacked that almost no new games get released for it? They tried to open their system, and they got slapped for it.
So yeah, I bought a PS3 to play PS3 games. The fact that it had all these other benefits were just frosting on the cake. People bitched about the price, so Sony took $100 ps2 out of the system and sold it separately so you could enjoy PS1 and PS2 and not pay for it if you didn't want it.
Sorry, you can get back on your high horse about how evil Sony is. Just wanted to point out that out of all the evil companies out there, Sony is the only one letting you use generic parts and share purchases. Ooo, scary.
Yes, yesterday I used 8 mb of data and now NO ONE ELSE CAN EVER GET THAT AGAIN!
...
Oh wait, you are implying that Internet bandwidth as a highly restricted and limited resource? That I shouldn't use the bandwidth I pay for because they sold more bandwidth to people than they actually had because they thought no one would notice and they could make more money on peoples ignorance?
"Boo Hoo, we offered people 20MB per second but we can only give them 5 and we told them it was unlimited but our hardware is failing and some jerks keep using all the stuff they paid for, which we didn't expect!"
Wow, I seem to have run low on sympathy for them. Maybe when they deliver the 45 symmetrical nation wide broadband that we paid for to be complete in 2006, MAYBE then...
My older employer loved it.
//Would not be surprised if that is where we get our call list
They were telemarketers... technically "Non-Profit", although 95% of the donated money went to overhead.
^_^ And yes, we are allowed to call the Do Not Call List.
See this guy above me? That is a stupid post.
His argument is "I wasn't going to upgrade before (because I liked my system the way it was), but will now DEFINITELY not upgrade now!"
Stupid.
Anyway, the only reason they got rid of the Other OS was because of hackers (like the breakout utility) learning how to gain complete control over the OS and possibly backup games.
This guy's response?
"You guys removed a feature that might have allowed me to run backed up games?! I will show you are wrong by doing exactly what you thought I would do!"
*sigh*. I hope Sony doesn't go all draconian like the 360, Wii, and some of the PC games (One save per computer, constant internet required, locked to one console and one account, no hard drives, no random usb, etc). Assholes have to make life miserable for those of us who use their system as intended.
Great.
We had Virtual machine, some ass says "Look, I can hack the system to play backups", they take it away.
Now we are racing to hack the console again, forcing Sony to spend time closing holes instead of adding features in a desperate attempt to prevent people from stealing $60 games.
Don't get me wrong, I hacked my PSP like many other people... and although *I* bought all my games, I still saw the number of releases drop to almost zero. I do not wish to see this happen to a major console, and if a simple "Plug usb to hack PS3" program comes out they will disable all usb.
Guys, Sony did not tell you "You get all future updates and games". If you didn't wish to lose Virtual console, you could have not updated (Keeping all games and features available at the time), but one of the effects of getting new games and services from PS3 is that you agree to their terms.
But whatever. Forget the fact that I can buy a game and share it with up to 5 of my friends ps3's without breaking any laws or voiding any warranty. Forget that I can backup and restore settings to any USB device. Lets force Sony to lock down everything like Madagascar because some guys out there wants free games.
Well their is this Android 2.2 device coming out:
"The one that will garner most attention is the Archos 101. Packing a 10.1-inch (1024 x 600) touchscreen, the device has the same 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 processor as the 70 and 43 and shares a lot of other specs with its lower-end counterparts, including HDMI, USB, WiFi, Micro-SD and a kick stand. This one is the most expensive of the line and it's priced at $299."
With competition like this, prices will probably drop for everyone else.
Discovery presents: "Anal Adventures: The life of an American Terrorist".
Stay tuned later for Jon and Kate Plus Eight!
Yet the PS3 still has a free (crappy) browser (with flash) while the 360 doesn't.
The PS3 can take any image and turn it into wallpaper while the 360 can't. (Gotta pinch that penny!)
The PS3 can use any external hard drive, can use any laptop hard drive internally, can use any keyboard, any camera, any printer, as well as letting you backup to external thumb drives / hard drives, etc. 360 Charges you massive money while refusing competition.
And most importantly, the PS3 only took away the Linux OS after someone claimed to have hacked it, allowing anyone to steal $60 games and blu-ray on their console that they already sell for a loss, the same thing that helped kill the PSP.
The 360 and Wii already have draconian restrictions to keep you from doing this (Can't use external for games, heavy drm on both system and profile, etc).
It wasn't until hackers threatened Sony directly that we lost the virtual machine, and even this was an *OPTIONAL* update, only required if you wished to use future PS3 features.
I know you are trying to build some type of evil Sony gonna kill our kid scenario, but out of everyone on the ball field they offer the most freedom.
True one day they may join the competition in these penny pinching games, but in that mean time why not enjoy the free online demos, browser, and online play?
Also, I can buy stuff that is discounted on Playstation Plus and up to 5 of my friends can log onto my account on their PS3 and download it too, and play with me on their accounts.
Seriously, the ability for me to buy a game and have my friends play with me has made me buy more stuff than I have ever bought from any game company.
"How will they deal with students who have physical disabilities?"
Well, blind kids can have other people read books out loud for them, deaf kids can have other people type subtitles for them, why not have other people play games (Under the direction of the viewer)?
I have played games while younger siblings / kids I was babysitting told me what to do. It works well, and allows people who would normally be unable to play the game to enjoy it as if they had my abilities.
Eww.... only $4 billion?!?
Mommm, a poor corp talked to me!
Don't forget Monoprice.
//On a side note, I bought 3 usb-to-micro-usb cords with two wall-to-usb chargers and a car-to-usb charger for $14 after shipping. ^_^ Always have a charger on hand, nice long cord, etc.
I grabbed a 6 foot 28AWG cord for $3 for my PS3, but you can also grab a 6 foot 24AWG cord for only $6.75. (AWG is the guage of the wire, smaller numbers equals better signals for long distance. )
Ah, but you are missing the BIG idea here!
Forget the 3d crap, with this tech we can now have 4 player 2d coop on ONE SCREEN!
No more tiny/stretched boxes, no more "Screen Watching", no more "Only 2 player" and "Only 1 player per console" etc...
^_^ This is the biggest advancement in actual game tech I have heard from in years!
"In short, Dell's right: if you're new to computing, install Ubuntu. If you have legacy MS apps, bend over!!"
But that is not what Dell is saying.
Dell is saying "If you program open source, install Ubuntu. If you are ANYONE ELSE, then lube up and bend it like beckham!!"
If they *were* saying what you were saying, then I would agree with you/them.
You should try the app "appbrain". ^_^ It is like the market, but much better organized... You can see "what is hot today / week", you can search through categories, etc. You can even install stuff directly to your phone.
In case other people are interested, some good RSS feeds: http://ezrss.it/
I also have seen people use flexget to download all the torrent files, then use the deluge plugin to auto-start and move them when done to the correct folders.
"Option C: Escalation. Call your manager over "
As a person who worked several horrible months as a non-profit telemarketer (95% went to us, 5% to the target... sigh), I can tell you that escalation gets you fired.
Hell, I was fired for "Being too nice". I would not immediately hang up on people, saying things like "Thank you", and "Well thanks for your time", etc, which apparently took too long.
Of course, the most loved employees were the ones who lied out their ass, who said anything to get an extra $5.
"Proper email validation is not trivial" Why not just send a message with a random pin? If they get it, then accept it as valid. If it is a fake email, then they are hosing themselves (No password recovery, etc), and they would have given you a fake email anyway (throw away accounts, etc). Your users will appreciate the lower annoyance factor too. I use Gmail's "Me+tagname@gmail.com" and "M.....e@gmail.com" methods to activate various filters, but I will use fake email if they complain about it.
"Hang on, I am going to duckduckgo 'Can Pelicans eat cats'."
"Hey Guys, try duckduckgo'ing "Cat Farts" in youtube!"
"I didn't find anything when I duckduckgo'ed it."
Oh yeah, this is going to take off like hotcakes.
Google, watch out!
"Lawyers and Judges could actually be modern-day warlocks and witches locked in an eternal battle for evil on the battlefield of the court!"
Fixed that for ya. ^_~