And apparently neither you nor the original responder use said drivers. The latest showing up on their site as of 9:31 EST is 8.40.1, not the driver this article purports to cover. Which is what I was why I was asking where the driver was.
This makes four pages on how it almost works not worth much. Also, performance gains through increasing the artifact count don't do much for me.. although I'd be able to say for sure if I could get the driver.
As for the open source drivers, I'll give them some kudos when they're actually available, thanks. Until that happens they haven't got drivers that are worth anything in either closed *or* GPL form.
Let me know as soon as you find those open source drivers you're lauding over on ATI's site. Neither source nor the binary driver appear to be available from where I'm sitting.
Right in one. Don't even get me started on the variety of default file systems and the way they handle hardware abstraction and permissions.
Of course, if you're running as a single desktop none of this comes into play. When you're administering a few hundred servers and desktops in a mixed environment it's a wee bit different.
I'm guessing that sending a hand written note expressing your intent to no longer use their services to the Community Affairs department might be a good first step if you're irritated by this.
Director of Community Affairs Regal Entertainment Group
Debbie Robertson 7132 Regal Lane Knoxville, TN 37918
Most cars are actually constructed wholly of parts sourced from third parties. Manufacturers simply spec out how the car is built and do the building... but much of what goes into the stock car is from different manufacturers all over the globe.
I distinctly read "an e-bay toolbar for FireFox" but what I see on the site is a hacked version *of* FireFox. These are two distinctly different things. Could someone please point out the individual toolbar download? I'm certainly not going to install a second version of FireFox just to get some toolbar included.
CSS doesn't prevent you from copying DVDs.. wherever did you get that funny notion? It simply prevents you from playing them on unauthorized players (one's that haven't paid the play tax) or in unauthorized zones.
People over in the PRC press out massive quantities of DVD copies, CSS included, *all the time*.
"Wine is a great application, but windows software with a few exceptions is never going to run as well as it would on the Windows OS."
That's not quite right. WINE actually has the opportunity to run Windows software better than the original OS, as it's not an emulator, but an implementation of work-alike APIs. I've found some programs that don't have native issues from Windows when they're run on Linux with the WINE API stack. These are mostly games, as I don't have much use for any of the other software from Windows.
Siracusa states that this attitude of refusing to think holistically ("across layers") is responsible for all of the current failings of Linux -- desktop adoption, user-friendliness, consumer software, and gaming.
So am I to assume that ZFS a.. er.. file system has high desktop adoption, user-friendliness, and good gaming support?
Let me make a quick address to why Linux has trouble in those areas, at least at this point. Some of the/.'ers hit the nail on the head, but mumbling something about software layers being independent doesn't make it valid criticism. This whole internet thing runs on layered TCP/IP software.. seems to be working well so far.
So yea. The problem with individual layers of the software not working is just that. If the software written to edit something or work as a middle layer between something doesn't work well, that's because no one's working on it enough, not because layering is flawed. The person working on some adjunct in the kernel isn't suddenly going to start coding you up a nice GUI to access their "layer" of software because their isn't one. Chances are, *they* don't need it, or give a rats arse about it.
There might be problems with particular soft spots in the software stack on Linux.. but it's because they're soft spots. They wouldn't be solved by the programmer working on the underlying layer stopping. The whole argument in the context of a ZFS in-kernel stack having too much "stuff" in it is fallacious. Like pointing and yelling about someone's hair when they're making a point on world politics.
Boats float, except when you poke holes in them. Then they sink. If you steal a boat while it's sinking, you're no better than kids that use proxies to get to websites that are blocked by proxy software.
And yes. That makes as much sense as comparing using a proxy to stealing physical objects, picking locks, and physical abuse in a myriad of forms.
Analogies, I submit, suck, and shouldn't be used as your primary argument for or against something. Try intelligent discussion of the relevant facts instead. It's bad enough that the facts of something are open to interpretation.. adding a layer of opinionated obfuscation and rant doesn't really help the matter.
As for the topic at hand, people have been suspended for the stupidest things imaginable if they involved computers since the dawn of the computing age. Much of this has to do with faculties not understanding technology.
However, these students did something that was (rather nebulously) declared evil by the administration. No clue what they did, or if it violated any rules, as there isn't a link to that. We're not talking about trampling on a sacred trust here, but about a school "rule". I remember there being ridiculous and often illegal rules back in my high school (which, when this was pointed out, where somewhat grudgingly not applied) so I'll reserve any judgement until someone publishes exactly what these folks did.
And by the way, if I'm paying for my kid to go to a school? I'm absolutely going to force them to change rules that I don't feel are "right". Heck, if it's a local public school, then I'm paying for your kid to go to school. I feel that doubly applies.
As in any other case, you get what you pay for. Google's providing the service aff, as far as I know they don't even have a pay service. So while it would suck to take a few minutes and re-enter your settings... you're simply getting your money's worth.
As soon as you're paying for something and not receiving it, rather than experiencing a technical glitch in a free service, you can complain.
For a minute there I thought it might be a report on the last front page article, changing climates at Microsoft and Google. I was wondering exactly how the BBC could be biased against a changing climate in the Software industry.
The only advantage of DDR is that it doesn't *require* you to interact with other, I'd imagine.
Although guitar hero is like DDR... they're both like dancing more than playing any instrument. Coordination, movement, etc.
So yea. I greatly prefer hitting a club to playing DDR. And I feel the two are an apt comparison, being both forms of entertainment that involve coordinated movement. *shrug*
So no. It's not like saying why play DDR when you could go out dancing at all.
It probably depends on the model. I also remember that some of the IBMs have different "levels" of password protection. One of 'em is a HDD MBR based scheme, the others on a flash chip. Could be that there's a third that's just BIOS battery based.
"because BIOS passwords are extremely insecure. If were talking about mobile devices, and you have a BIOS password protecting valuable information, its as easy as removing the CMOS battery, waiting 15 seconds, and popping it back in."
I'll inform all the buyers of low cost paper weights on EBay that they're missing this important feature of the IBM laptops.
While yours is a true statement for some laptops, it isn't a blanket statement for all laptops. There are many exceptions to the rule that BIOS/HDD laptop passwords are easy to break.
#4 That $599 Mac Mini is looking pretty good despite my previous Anti-Apple rants of the past decade. This Vista Fascism may be enough to get me to switch.
And this is an option because you can simply change out your Mac hardware? No licensing or DRM issues there, eh?
Not that I've got anything against the Macs (although I don't like them personally) contrasted with Windows, but just the fact that you can *run* Windows on your own hardware seems to me to make that argument a bit of a looser.
That's true. The fact that the machines don't have appreciably large hard drives, heavy processing power, and won't have constant high-bandwith internet connections might do a lot for them.
On the other hand, there are going to be a *lot* of these machines. So I suppose they might make a tempting target "just because" or simply for bulk processing.
Just like they didn't hold Bernie S. (old 2600 site) without bail or hearing for suspicion of selling drugs because he was selling radio crystals. Right?
Oh. And they managed to top it off by throwing him on the stand while he was very ill and unable to defend himself. Obviously everyone simply "gets what's coming to them". Best to let that whole "burden of proof" and "innocent until *found* guilty" thing just slide.
Plus he's a fairly nice guy. Which makes it even worse.
It all depends on what the issue being addressed is. If the problem's simply one of all the game playing public not seeing the threat that these politicians pose, and the comedy news shows expose them to it, then it could really help spread the message that they're under attack.
Shortly thereafter we'll replace "Porn" with whatever other hot button issues we can come up with. Suspicously these threats to America will coincide with whenever the law needs to be renewed.
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And apparently neither you nor the original responder use said drivers. The latest showing up on their site as of 9:31 EST is 8.40.1, not the driver this article purports to cover. Which is what I was why I was asking where the driver was.
This makes four pages on how it almost works not worth much. Also, performance gains through increasing the artifact count don't do much for me.. although I'd be able to say for sure if I could get the driver.
At any rate, you can check for yourself right here: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
As for the open source drivers, I'll give them some kudos when they're actually available, thanks. Until that happens they haven't got drivers that are worth anything in either closed *or* GPL form.
Let me know as soon as you find those open source drivers you're lauding over on ATI's site. Neither source nor the binary driver appear to be available from where I'm sitting.
Right in one. Don't even get me started on the variety of default file systems and the way they handle hardware abstraction and permissions.
Of course, if you're running as a single desktop none of this comes into play. When you're administering a few hundred servers and desktops in a mixed environment it's a wee bit different.
I'm guessing that sending a hand written note expressing your intent to no longer use their services to the Community Affairs department might be a good first step if you're irritated by this.
Director of Community Affairs
Regal Entertainment Group
Debbie Robertson
7132 Regal Lane
Knoxville, TN 37918
I think people need to put that into perspective. Possibly:
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- The Management
Most cars are actually constructed wholly of parts sourced from third parties. Manufacturers simply spec out how the car is built and do the building... but much of what goes into the stock car is from different manufacturers all over the globe.
Good example by analogy.
Someone rips off her creative work. Slashdot: "That's cool. I shouldn't have to pay for bits."
And, if I might inquire, which bits are those? The bits that make up a physical printing of a product? Did we enter the matrix at some point?
I bow to your superior word usage :).
I distinctly read "an e-bay toolbar for FireFox" but what I see on the site is a hacked version *of* FireFox. These are two distinctly different things. Could someone please point out the individual toolbar download? I'm certainly not going to install a second version of FireFox just to get some toolbar included.
CSS doesn't prevent you from copying DVDs.. wherever did you get that funny notion? It simply prevents you from playing them on unauthorized players (one's that haven't paid the play tax) or in unauthorized zones.
People over in the PRC press out massive quantities of DVD copies, CSS included, *all the time*.
"Wine is a great application, but windows software with a few exceptions is never going to run as well as it would on the Windows OS."
That's not quite right. WINE actually has the opportunity to run Windows software better than the original OS, as it's not an emulator, but an implementation of work-alike APIs. I've found some programs that don't have native issues from Windows when they're run on Linux with the WINE API stack. These are mostly games, as I don't have much use for any of the other software from Windows.So am I to assume that ZFS a .. er.. file system has high desktop adoption, user-friendliness, and good gaming support?
Let me make a quick address to why Linux has trouble in those areas, at least at this point. Some of the /.'ers hit the nail on the head, but mumbling something about software layers being independent doesn't make it valid criticism. This whole internet thing runs on layered TCP/IP software.. seems to be working well so far.
So yea. The problem with individual layers of the software not working is just that. If the software written to edit something or work as a middle layer between something doesn't work well, that's because no one's working on it enough, not because layering is flawed. The person working on some adjunct in the kernel isn't suddenly going to start coding you up a nice GUI to access their "layer" of software because their isn't one. Chances are, *they* don't need it, or give a rats arse about it.
There might be problems with particular soft spots in the software stack on Linux.. but it's because they're soft spots. They wouldn't be solved by the programmer working on the underlying layer stopping. The whole argument in the context of a ZFS in-kernel stack having too much "stuff" in it is fallacious. Like pointing and yelling about someone's hair when they're making a point on world politics.
Boats float, except when you poke holes in them. Then they sink. If you steal a boat while it's sinking, you're no better than kids that use proxies to get to websites that are blocked by proxy software.
And yes. That makes as much sense as comparing using a proxy to stealing physical objects, picking locks, and physical abuse in a myriad of forms.
Analogies, I submit, suck, and shouldn't be used as your primary argument for or against something. Try intelligent discussion of the relevant facts instead. It's bad enough that the facts of something are open to interpretation.. adding a layer of opinionated obfuscation and rant doesn't really help the matter.
As for the topic at hand, people have been suspended for the stupidest things imaginable if they involved computers since the dawn of the computing age. Much of this has to do with faculties not understanding technology.
However, these students did something that was (rather nebulously) declared evil by the administration. No clue what they did, or if it violated any rules, as there isn't a link to that. We're not talking about trampling on a sacred trust here, but about a school "rule". I remember there being ridiculous and often illegal rules back in my high school (which, when this was pointed out, where somewhat grudgingly not applied) so I'll reserve any judgement until someone publishes exactly what these folks did.
And by the way, if I'm paying for my kid to go to a school? I'm absolutely going to force them to change rules that I don't feel are "right". Heck, if it's a local public school, then I'm paying for your kid to go to school. I feel that doubly applies.
As in any other case, you get what you pay for. Google's providing the service aff, as far as I know they don't even have a pay service. So while it would suck to take a few minutes and re-enter your settings... you're simply getting your money's worth.
As soon as you're paying for something and not receiving it, rather than experiencing a technical glitch in a free service, you can complain.
For a minute there I thought it might be a report on the last front page article, changing climates at Microsoft and Google. I was wondering exactly how the BBC could be biased against a changing climate in the Software industry.
The only advantage of DDR is that it doesn't *require* you to interact with other, I'd imagine.
Although guitar hero is like DDR... they're both like dancing more than playing any instrument. Coordination, movement, etc.
So yea. I greatly prefer hitting a club to playing DDR. And I feel the two are an apt comparison, being both forms of entertainment that involve coordinated movement. *shrug*
So no. It's not like saying why play DDR when you could go out dancing at all.
It probably depends on the model. I also remember that some of the IBMs have different "levels" of password protection. One of 'em is a HDD MBR based scheme, the others on a flash chip. Could be that there's a third that's just BIOS battery based.
Will likely be eaten by grue.
I'll inform all the buyers of low cost paper weights on EBay that they're missing this important feature of the IBM laptops.
While yours is a true statement for some laptops, it isn't a blanket statement for all laptops. There are many exceptions to the rule that BIOS/HDD laptop passwords are easy to break.
#4 That $599 Mac Mini is looking pretty good despite my previous Anti-Apple rants of the past decade. This Vista Fascism may be enough to get me to switch.
And this is an option because you can simply change out your Mac hardware? No licensing or DRM issues there, eh?
Not that I've got anything against the Macs (although I don't like them personally) contrasted with Windows, but just the fact that you can *run* Windows on your own hardware seems to me to make that argument a bit of a looser.
That's true. The fact that the machines don't have appreciably large hard drives, heavy processing power, and won't have constant high-bandwith internet connections might do a lot for them.
On the other hand, there are going to be a *lot* of these machines. So I suppose they might make a tempting target "just because" or simply for bulk processing.
Just like they didn't hold Bernie S. (old 2600 site) without bail or hearing for suspicion of selling drugs because he was selling radio crystals. Right?
Oh. And they managed to top it off by throwing him on the stand while he was very ill and unable to defend himself. Obviously everyone simply "gets what's coming to them". Best to let that whole "burden of proof" and "innocent until *found* guilty" thing just slide.
Plus he's a fairly nice guy. Which makes it even worse.It all depends on what the issue being addressed is. If the problem's simply one of all the game playing public not seeing the threat that these politicians pose, and the comedy news shows expose them to it, then it could really help spread the message that they're under attack.
So he's already moved on to the second envelope? Did I miss the part where he blamed Carley Fiorina for everything? :)
"Gonzales Wants ISP Data Retention To Curb Porn"
Shortly thereafter we'll replace "Porn" with whatever other hot button issues we can come up with. Suspicously these threats to America will coincide with whenever the law needs to be renewed.