Confusing though. Why isn't Bush and Co. all over this? It would pretty much get rid of all the criticism they are facing about Iraq.
A better question is why isn't the press all over it? Between this and the 21 WMD discovered so far (counting only actual deployable weapons), NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN should be doing 24-hour apologies.
The labor lawyer will tell you that as an IT support person, you are exempt from overtime laws, and they don't even have to PAY you for coming in after hours, or working from home, and they absolutely can require you to do so.
Well, in the case of the Oklahoma City bomb, Terry Nichols was recruited by Ramzi Yousef (al Qaeda) and worked with Hussain al-Hussaini (Iraq).
So, "us" would be "the vast majority of US citizens" and "them" would be "al Qaeda and their Iraqi pals", as usual.
You guys have been claiming that we couldn't profile Arabs because they would just recruit white people; is it so hard to accept that you were partially correct?
I didn't listen to them when they asked me to duct tape and plastic wrap my house,
Which they didn't do.
I didn't listen to them when they raised the alert level 5 different times,
Which they didn't expect you to do, unless you're a first responder or official of a state or municipal government.
I didn't listen to them when they told me to trust them
Yet you're trusting that this isn't part of a master plan to get us all to expose ourselves to some back door they've worked into the Mozilla code base?
It's obvious, even before the actual documents began to be uncovered, that criminal torture and murder is Bush/Pentagon policy, coordinated, trained and encouraged, in a variety of venues.
This pretty much sums up your argument; it's obvious they're doing this, even without any evidence. Therefore, evidence the contrary is irrelevant to you.
The dictators we support, in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China, Libya, and elsewhere, serve only select global corporate interests, while fueling the sources of terrorism, at the convenience of a corporate US government.
Libya has given up the quest for nuclear weapons, in return for a normalization of diplomatic status. I submit that Libya not having nukes is of more than "global corporate interest".
The US bombed the crap out of the Serbian military, not the people.
That's one reason we don't have Serbian suicide bombers attacking us.
Another, more likely reason is that the Serbs aren't Muslim. Non-Muslim suicide bombers are pretty rare. They exist, but not in great numbers. Also, we don't have many suicide bombers attacking us at all. They're mostly attacking Israeli civilians, Iraqi civilians, and Iraqi police.
And let's have a citation backing your belief in (and promotion of) the lies about Iraqi support for Al Qaeda, which have been definitively debunked by, among others, the 9/11 Commission.
Here's your citation. If a US Federal Court decision isn't enough to convince you that it's not a lie, then I doubt any proof could.
As for being debunked by the 9/11 Commission, they haven't released their final report yet, but the staff statements so far have not debunked anything. Pre-report staff statements have said they have found no evidence of a collaborative relationship in regards to the 9/11 attacks; they made no effort to prove there was no financing of Al Qaeda activities, and current events suggest they are not done with this issue. I'd hold off on calling their lack of evidence an evidence of lack at least until they release their report, if I were you.
See original post #3, about lying to the public, and calling it official intelligence - to which which you declined to respond, since everyone already knows better than whatever veiled apology you'd contrive for BushCo's lies about intelligence they make up to justify their malevolent agenda.
I didn't respond to it because it was a baseless insult without any evidence to back it up. It wasn't worthy of addressing.
However, if you insist:
Intelligence is sometimes wrong. That doesn't mean it's made up. Much of the intelligence upon which we were acting when we invaded Iraq dates from before Bush ever took office, and was deemed compelling by, among others, John Kerry.
How about people accepting that torture is unacceptable, rather than crying "blame the troops" whenever they're not chanting "support President Bush and our troops"
How about recognizing the difference between interrogation and torture, instead of trivializing the plight of those who were actually tortured by Saddam's regime? Those who were raped? Murdered? How about not attempting to conflate the policies with which you disagree and the illegal actions of a few sick criminals, that are completely different than those policies?
How about recognizing that Donald Rumsfeld initiated investigations that have already resulted in convictions, with more to follow, of those involved in the abuse of Iraqi prisoners? How about recognizing that the General in charge was yanked from her post almost immediately, again thanks to Rumsfeld?
See, the difference you're missing here is that when American Soldiers do something unacceptable to Iraqi prisoners, they go to jail. Under the regime we displaced, which if you had your way would still be there, they'd be promoted.
The people who were behiond 9/11 weren't known terrorists/criminals.
This is a false statement. Some were in fact known terrorists. In fact, some had been previously denied Visas under other names.
They were quiet people, under the radar....
Which is exactly why they wouldn't apply for these cards; the risk of exposure would be too great.
Therefore, they'd still be subject to random search, and they'd be more likely to be searched because the pool would be smaller, since so many people would have been effectively pre-screened out of it.
1. Avoid installing or supporting despotic dictators that repress their own citizenry and exploit the resources of their nation for personal gain.
Such as Stalin. Never should have allied with that guy. The world would be so much better off if we'd let Hitler take him out.
2. Avoid bombing the crap out of countries that haven't attacked us.
Such as Serbia and Somalia? I know you don't mean Iraq, since a US Federal Court has found they financed Al Qaeda and it's been upheld by the Appeals Court.
4. (It really amazes me as an American that it has come to the point where we have to even talk about this, but) avoid torturing citizens of other nations.
Best way I can think of to avoid that would be for it to be illegal (it is) and for us to prosecute anybody who violates that law (we are) and to pull the general responsible for overseeing them out of her post pending investigation. (we did)
Or were you saying we should make it physically impossible for any American to do something stupid?
I wish game developers would realise that a lot of people refuse to use the service because it requires you to sign up and sign in when you want to get something. It's not worth it.
I know. Having to spend 2 minutes of my time filling out a form once, and then having to type my email address and password one time and click "yes" for my browser to remember it? Ridiculous! They expect me to do that just to get insanely fast downloads of free programs on their nickle? What's that matter with these people?
So, does anybody have figures on how much more oil it takes to produce the electricity for an electric car than it would take to just run it on gasoline in the first place?
If I were in that situation and I felt it was a trap, I'd say F*CK every other word. Let them try to edit that out.
Hold both hands up in front of your face flipping the bird, so they have to fuzz that out too. Video of somebody unrecognizable with one continuous "beeeeeeeeeep" of audio is not marketable for long. Many people won't even remember who it was.
What ticks me off about this incidents (and I suspect that there have been several in the last 6 months) is that there is absolutely no notification given, either during or after the event. During this outage, some news outlets were still reachable (including Slashdot), and a simple notification would have saved hours (* 10s of thousands of network dudes worldwide) of time and much grief from the big bosses who couldn't reach Yahoo Finance, I mean critical business web sites.
Yeah, they should post a notice on their web page, saying their internet connection is down. Bastards.
The fact is that there are 13 of them, in widely scattered locations across the globe, and it's not decentralized?
Damn man, what exactly would you consider "decentralized" then?
Akamai has 13, in widely scattered locations, as well. That in itself doesn't make them sufficiently decentralized.
The reason the root servers don't have this problem is that they don't all run the same software (anymore) and aren't all administrated by the same people.
I'm making an assumption here, of course, but I will not be a bit surprised if it turns out that Akamai loaded something that hit all their routers at once.
On a totally unrelated note.. is it bad when you post comments to your own stories?
My policy (listen to me, one whole story accepted and I have a "policy") is to only reply if they find or allege a serious error or omission in the story.
Slashdot Mirror
Are they trying to make up for the old RH servers where releases were far and few between?
Yes.
At this rate it makes them look unpredictable and unuseable in a business who needs something that appears 'stable.'
They don't expect you to use it there.
Honestly, does nobody read the freakin' FAQ before they post opinions about a project anymore?
You're linking to an organization that lowers the US's ranking for allowing reporters to accompany troops into the war.
Well, one thing I do like about IE is that is DOESN'T have a download manager.
Yeah, I hate it when software gives me a CHOICE as to how I want it to behave.
Just do it all for me, and you better guess right as to which choice I'd make or YOU SUCK.
Handguns have a functional purpose other than to kill human beings?
That's not even their primary use. It's not even in the top three.
Confusing though. Why isn't Bush and Co. all over this? It would pretty much get rid of all the criticism they are facing about Iraq.
A better question is why isn't the press all over it? Between this and the 21 WMD discovered so far (counting only actual deployable weapons), NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN should be doing 24-hour apologies.
Type "nichols yousef" on google and you'll get about 3000 hits. Oklahoma City news reporter Jayna Davis quit her job to pursue this story full-time.
But the OKC bombing isn't "news" anymore, so coverage of this is practically nonexistant.
Her web page is here.
The labor lawyer will tell you that as an IT support person, you are exempt from overtime laws, and they don't even have to PAY you for coming in after hours, or working from home, and they absolutely can require you to do so.
Of course, I am not a lawyer.
Well, in the case of the Oklahoma City bomb, Terry Nichols was recruited by Ramzi Yousef (al Qaeda) and worked with Hussain al-Hussaini (Iraq).
So, "us" would be "the vast majority of US citizens" and "them" would be "al Qaeda and their Iraqi pals", as usual.
You guys have been claiming that we couldn't profile Arabs because they would just recruit white people; is it so hard to accept that you were partially correct?
I didn't listen to them when they asked me to duct tape and plastic wrap my house,
Which they didn't do.
I didn't listen to them when they raised the alert level 5 different times,
Which they didn't expect you to do, unless you're a first responder or official of a state or municipal government.
I didn't listen to them when they told me to trust them
Yet you're trusting that this isn't part of a master plan to get us all to expose ourselves to some back door they've worked into the Mozilla code base?
It's obvious, even before the actual documents began to be uncovered, that criminal torture and murder is Bush/Pentagon policy, coordinated, trained and encouraged, in a variety of venues.
This pretty much sums up your argument; it's obvious they're doing this, even without any evidence. Therefore, evidence the contrary is irrelevant to you.
The dictators we support, in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China, Libya, and elsewhere, serve only select global corporate interests, while fueling the sources of terrorism, at the convenience of a corporate US government.
Libya has given up the quest for nuclear weapons, in return for a normalization of diplomatic status. I submit that Libya not having nukes is of more than "global corporate interest".
The US bombed the crap out of the Serbian military, not the people.
Amnesty International disagrees with your assessment.
That's one reason we don't have Serbian suicide bombers attacking us.
Another, more likely reason is that the Serbs aren't Muslim. Non-Muslim suicide bombers are pretty rare. They exist, but not in great numbers. Also, we don't have many suicide bombers attacking us at all. They're mostly attacking Israeli civilians, Iraqi civilians, and Iraqi police.
And let's have a citation backing your belief in (and promotion of) the lies about Iraqi support for Al Qaeda, which have been definitively debunked by, among others, the 9/11 Commission.
Here's your citation. If a US Federal Court decision isn't enough to convince you that it's not a lie, then I doubt any proof could.
As for being debunked by the 9/11 Commission, they haven't released their final report yet, but the staff statements so far have not debunked anything. Pre-report staff statements have said they have found no evidence of a collaborative relationship in regards to the 9/11 attacks; they made no effort to prove there was no financing of Al Qaeda activities, and current events suggest they are not done with this issue. I'd hold off on calling their lack of evidence an evidence of lack at least until they release their report, if I were you.
See original post #3, about lying to the public, and calling it official intelligence - to which which you declined to respond, since everyone already knows better than whatever veiled apology you'd contrive for BushCo's lies about intelligence they make up to justify their malevolent agenda.
I didn't respond to it because it was a baseless insult without any evidence to back it up. It wasn't worthy of addressing.
However, if you insist:
Intelligence is sometimes wrong. That doesn't mean it's made up. Much of the intelligence upon which we were acting when we invaded Iraq dates from before Bush ever took office, and was deemed compelling by, among others, John Kerry.
How about people accepting that torture is unacceptable, rather than crying "blame the troops" whenever they're not chanting "support President Bush and our troops"
How about recognizing the difference between interrogation and torture, instead of trivializing the plight of those who were actually tortured by Saddam's regime? Those who were raped? Murdered? How about not attempting to conflate the policies with which you disagree and the illegal actions of a few sick criminals, that are completely different than those policies?
How about recognizing that Donald Rumsfeld initiated investigations that have already resulted in convictions, with more to follow, of those involved in the abuse of Iraqi prisoners? How about recognizing that the General in charge was yanked from her post almost immediately, again thanks to Rumsfeld?
See, the difference you're missing here is that when American Soldiers do something unacceptable to Iraqi prisoners, they go to jail. Under the regime we displaced, which if you had your way would still be there, they'd be promoted.
The people who were behiond 9/11 weren't known terrorists/criminals.
This is a false statement. Some were in fact known terrorists. In fact, some had been previously denied Visas under other names.
They were quiet people, under the radar....
Which is exactly why they wouldn't apply for these cards; the risk of exposure would be too great.
Therefore, they'd still be subject to random search, and they'd be more likely to be searched because the pool would be smaller, since so many people would have been effectively pre-screened out of it.
1. Avoid installing or supporting despotic dictators that repress their own citizenry and exploit the resources of their nation for personal gain.
Such as Stalin. Never should have allied with that guy. The world would be so much better off if we'd let Hitler take him out.
2. Avoid bombing the crap out of countries that haven't attacked us.
Such as Serbia and Somalia? I know you don't mean Iraq, since a US Federal Court has found they financed Al Qaeda and it's been upheld by the Appeals Court.
4. (It really amazes me as an American that it has come to the point where we have to even talk about this, but) avoid torturing citizens of other nations.
Best way I can think of to avoid that would be for it to be illegal (it is) and for us to prosecute anybody who violates that law (we are) and to pull the general responsible for overseeing them out of her post pending investigation. (we did)
Or were you saying we should make it physically impossible for any American to do something stupid?
I wish game developers would realise that a lot of people refuse to use the service because it requires you to sign up and sign in when you want to get something. It's not worth it.
I know. Having to spend 2 minutes of my time filling out a form once, and then having to type my email address and password one time and click "yes" for my browser to remember it? Ridiculous! They expect me to do that just to get insanely fast downloads of free programs on their nickle? What's that matter with these people?
They'll open-source their ftp.exe!
So, does anybody have figures on how much more oil it takes to produce the electricity for an electric car than it would take to just run it on gasoline in the first place?
There are hundreds of distributions, and a dozen that are actually usable.
I'm sick of all this "my distribution is better than yours" penis-measuring.
But you just claimed 12 of the penises are longer than the rest. Did you mean you got sick of it between the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of your post?
Honestly, when was the last time you heard of anyone ever dying on the job while coding from the working conditions?
A couple of months ago.
When was the last time you or a co-worker was hospitalized from an injury suffered on the job?
Saturday.
If I were in that situation and I felt it was a trap, I'd say F*CK every other word. Let them try to edit that out.
Hold both hands up in front of your face flipping the bird, so they have to fuzz that out too. Video of somebody unrecognizable with one continuous "beeeeeeeeeep" of audio is not marketable for long. Many people won't even remember who it was.
I have to wonder if anyone who suggests setting up Windows like that has actually tried it and used it.
Yes. I wouldn't set up my Windows boxes any other way.
There's a reason some buildings don't have 13th floors.
Yes, there is. It's for much the same reason bottles of Drano say "do not ingest".
What ticks me off about this incidents (and I suspect that there have been several in the last 6 months) is that there is absolutely no notification given, either during or after the event. During this outage, some news outlets were still reachable (including Slashdot), and a simple notification would have saved hours (* 10s of thousands of network dudes worldwide) of time and much grief from the big bosses who couldn't reach Yahoo Finance, I mean critical business web sites.
Yeah, they should post a notice on their web page, saying their internet connection is down. Bastards.
The fact is that there are 13 of them, in widely scattered locations across the globe, and it's not decentralized?
Damn man, what exactly would you consider "decentralized" then?
Akamai has 13, in widely scattered locations, as well. That in itself doesn't make them sufficiently decentralized.
The reason the root servers don't have this problem is that they don't all run the same software (anymore) and aren't all administrated by the same people.
I'm making an assumption here, of course, but I will not be a bit surprised if it turns out that Akamai loaded something that hit all their routers at once.
Or time to replace the little green light.
On a totally unrelated note.. is it bad when you post comments to your own stories?
My policy (listen to me, one whole story accepted and I have a "policy") is to only reply if they find or allege a serious error or omission in the story.