Not to get this offtopic, but I had a question about your post. Creationism is fine *if you are discussing it in a theology class or some such like*, did you mean exactly what you said ie. that Israel is thinking of teaching creationism as science ? or do you mean that they teach it in school as part of religion studies or whatever the course may be ?
This below is not directed at any one in particular, it is just an observation. I cannot understand why most here are so ermm.. obsitante when it comes to religous beliefs, I would have expected self proclaimed 'nerds' and 'geeks' to be slightly more openmided about this sort of stuff.
ahh, well that was a typo, should have been a 'm'illion with an 'M', my knowledge of process costs is however limited to DSP chips or analog ASICs so it is possible that I know only the upper end, I am more of an analog guy myself. Apologies for that typo.
The price of creating one single mask layer runs into billions, the volume of the 'sale', is what allows the industries to roll them out. Now apart from the univs. you mentioned and I think most of the cal ones have an agreement with mosis, like all the other academic institutes, no one is going to roll out anything unless they can atleast break even. Free 'libre' would bankrupt any company, and would be impracticle to implement free 'gratis' would actually be more feasable open cores, and freely distributed ip's are available but that is akin to M$ telling you what scheduling algo they use rather than giving you the source code itself.
I do not know much about software distribution, however I do think that it is much more easy to share information in software form (and hence distribute it), rather than distributing physical enitites like chips (a hundered won't even be worth starting the process). The IVY leauge by the way I am not sure if they have their own plants, I don't know much about them, but from what little I do know, they do seem to tend to concentrate on the pure sciences and Liberal arts etc. rather than on engineering.
But yeah I would love the concept of one day humanity being able to share knowledge, where peer review would actually mean an open discussion with your peers and would involve those of the general public, rather than being restricted to a few groups of experts. Till then I wait.
Then all of science would be Insane, we do after all advocate the repeating of the same set of experiments all the time hoping to get different results, something that can let us publish. I do not quite agree with that bit.
yes, but then every field has it's own set. Electronics for example has - Large Scale Integration, Very Large Scale Integration, then the new one seems to be Ultra Large Scale Integration. I mean come on... , let them have their fun.
Not to be pedantic, however I do not think you would want to use such a machine. See the only way you have open hardware (I am an Electrical Engineer so I assume I am correct in saying this), is if you use reconfigurable hardware of sorts, ie. you work on FPGA's etc. In order to implement anything else you need a Fab plant which you arent going to get at all. An currently I believe the Best set of FPGA's would be Xillinx Virtex II pro's (I think the Altera ones come close but they arent as good). Now If you were to want to make a computer on this you would get I guess a couple of hundered MegaHertz at best and I mean at best, what you can do is multi-core instantiations however the problem that you would have with needing Memory is not trivial. Hence it is best to leave 'Open Source' Hardware as a hobbyists way to pass the time rather than any thing serious.
But then again I could be wrong, after all at one point of time no one would ever need more than 64K of memory.
Gothics was accpeted earlier but now it is teutonics that is accepted by most ?
Age of Empires II had teutons as a civ. I am guessing some jokes can be made using that as well, a teutonic knight flood caused the masses to start accepting the concept of teutonics ?
Nooo Russia is north, China is East (both north and south seeing as how big it is), Japan is more to the east than that, thailand, burma etc. are South east, I agree mongolia is north eastern but I didnt quite consider it, I am talking about all of this relative to where I am which is India.
Of course, I did however behaving in a very ermm... insensitive manner club together the south east asian countries together (stupid of me considering that I also belong to that region).
But, isnt orkut also a social networking site owned by google ? is this googles way of accepting that facebook is better/has a wider base ? Because I know for a fact that orkut doesnt have a visible news section. I wonder if this is going to be googles version of Extend, Embrace and Assimilate ?
Well, it's possible, I remember a urban legend like story concerning IBM or was it Motorola. The story was that these guys required some shipment of chips. These guys staked out the companies, decieded to go with TSMC. Now the guys at TSMC were told that they should when they ship the chips make sure to get atleast 1 per million as their output quality. So what these guys are said to have done was, they sent two packages, one contained a million chips all of them working perfectly, and another one packaged, with large red tape all around it contained one chip specially labelled defective. Now, I don't know if this really happened, being an electronics engineer I highly doubt if they could have such awesome testing. I do however admire their confidence in their product, so yes, you would be right in asking were any of those chips from japan ?
However from what I know of, (not alot by the way), these were completely manufactured in America, since the special technology that incorporates saphire into the process, and makes such temperature resistant semiconductors is not that widely used elsewhere. So, I'd venture a guess and say nope, sorry this was made in America (for a change).
ermmm I dont know which country you live in, but here in India there is no creationism. It is indeed possible that those people studying sanskrit or theology might get to study religious text that contains creationism, I have however never heard of any university preaching it in their science department\lectures.
Seriously ? crappy ? well I guess it's a matter of opinions. I thought Lateralus, ænima 10,000 days etc. were rather good, well to each his own.
Don't know much about the RIAA etc. but wouldn't tool also be from an RIAA company ?, not sure just asking.
Well, actually I'm guessing you have been using them for quite a lot.
Not to get this offtopic, but I had a question about your post. Creationism is fine *if you are discussing it in a theology class or some such like*, did you mean exactly what you said ie. that Israel is thinking of teaching creationism as science ? or do you mean that they teach it in school as part of religion studies or whatever the course may be ?
This below is not directed at any one in particular, it is just an observation.
I cannot understand why most here are so ermm.. obsitante when it comes to religous beliefs, I would have expected self proclaimed 'nerds' and 'geeks' to be slightly more openmided about this sort of stuff.
Sorry just a rant.
I'm sorry Caltech, would like to cut that nose off ?
ahh, well that was a typo, should have been a 'm'illion with an 'M', my knowledge of process costs is however limited to DSP chips or analog ASICs so it is possible that I know only the upper end, I am more of an analog guy myself. Apologies for that typo.
The price of creating one single mask layer runs into billions, the volume of the 'sale', is what allows the industries to roll them out. Now apart from the univs. you mentioned and I think most of the cal ones have an agreement with mosis, like all the other academic institutes, no one is going to roll out anything unless they can atleast break even. Free 'libre' would bankrupt any company, and would be impracticle to implement free 'gratis' would actually be more feasable open cores, and freely distributed ip's are available but that is akin to M$ telling you what scheduling algo they use rather than giving you the source code itself.
I do not know much about software distribution, however I do think that it is much more easy to share information in software form (and hence distribute it), rather than distributing physical enitites like chips (a hundered won't even be worth starting the process). The IVY leauge by the way I am not sure if they have their own plants, I don't know much about them, but from what little I do know, they do seem to tend to concentrate on the pure sciences and Liberal arts etc. rather than on engineering.
But yeah I would love the concept of one day humanity being able to share knowledge, where peer review would actually mean an open discussion with your peers and would involve those of the general public, rather than being restricted to a few groups of experts. Till then I wait.
Then all of science would be Insane, we do after all advocate the repeating of the same set of experiments all the time hoping to get different results, something that can let us publish. I do not quite agree with that bit.
yes, but then every field has it's own set. Electronics for example has - Large Scale Integration, Very Large Scale Integration, then the new one seems to be Ultra Large Scale Integration. I mean come on ... , let them have their fun.
Not to be pedantic, however I do not think you would want to use such a machine. See the only way you have open hardware (I am an Electrical Engineer so I assume I am correct in saying this), is if you use reconfigurable hardware of sorts, ie. you work on FPGA's etc. In order to implement anything else you need a Fab plant which you arent going to get at all. An currently I believe the Best set of FPGA's would be Xillinx Virtex II pro's (I think the Altera ones come close but they arent as good). Now If you were to want to make a computer on this you would get I guess a couple of hundered MegaHertz at best and I mean at best, what you can do is multi-core instantiations however the problem that you would have with needing Memory is not trivial. Hence it is best to leave 'Open Source' Hardware as a hobbyists way to pass the time rather than any thing serious.
But then again I could be wrong, after all at one point of time no one would ever need more than 64K of memory.
eg. ?
Gothics was accpeted earlier but now it is teutonics that is accepted by most ?
Age of Empires II had teutons as a civ. I am guessing some jokes can be made using that as well, a teutonic knight flood caused the masses to start accepting the concept of teutonics ?
Now teutonics is accepted by most
tectonics is accepted by most.
Actually they didn't design it, this bloke called Sabeer Bhatia did it. They bought it out and then redid it all.
hmm.. reducto ad absurdm and godwins law, this reminds me so much of that Questionable Content comic.
Isn't this a pretty good example of godwins law ??
I am not sure if extreme cases like that can be considered valid arguments can they ?
This is surprising because even in Soviet Russia, Local search beats Google. (well russia isnt soviet any more but that was required for the meme)
you obviously arent from Georgia Tech. Although grade inflation is a problem in most places I dont think it is so there. The grading system is a lot tougher than the other colleges including Caltech. Ofcourse there are arguments both for and against that, which can be found at http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mleach/myturn/makingthegrade.html and the students response http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mleach/myturn/MyTurn2/MyTurn2.htm.
Nooo Russia is north, China is East (both north and south seeing as how big it is), Japan is more to the east than that, thailand, burma etc. are South east, I agree mongolia is north eastern but I didnt quite consider it, I am talking about all of this relative to where I am which is India.
Of course, I did however behaving in a very ermm... insensitive manner club together the south east asian countries together (stupid of me considering that I also belong to that region).
But, isnt orkut also a social networking site owned by google ? is this googles way of accepting that facebook is better/has a wider base ? Because I know for a fact that orkut doesnt have a visible news section. I wonder if this is going to be googles version of Extend, Embrace and Assimilate ?
Well, it's possible, I remember a urban legend like story concerning IBM or was it Motorola. The story was that these guys required some shipment of chips. These guys staked out the companies, decieded to go with TSMC. Now the guys at TSMC were told that they should when they ship the chips make sure to get atleast 1 per million as their output quality. So what these guys are said to have done was, they sent two packages, one contained a million chips all of them working perfectly, and another one packaged, with large red tape all around it contained one chip specially labelled defective. Now, I don't know if this really happened, being an electronics engineer I highly doubt if they could have such awesome testing. I do however admire their confidence in their product, so yes, you would be right in asking were any of those chips from japan ?
However from what I know of, (not alot by the way), these were completely manufactured in America, since the special technology that incorporates saphire into the process, and makes such temperature resistant semiconductors is not that widely used elsewhere. So, I'd venture a guess and say nope, sorry this was made in America (for a change).
ermmm I dont know which country you live in, but here in India there is no creationism. It is indeed possible that those people studying sanskrit or theology might get to study religious text that contains creationism, I have however never heard of any university preaching it in their science department\lectures.
Bionic Woman
I thought that was how people reproduced
actually they just came back from this really long vacation in Kashmir, and just heard about it.