I wasnt trying a comparison but was trying to show that a statement that justifies the use of nuclear weapons by saying that by killing more people at a time using a single bomb rather than a few is jsutified.
No, I never said that imposing sanctions was unjustified. I am sure that if you condemn an act and you feel you dont want to economically help them or want their help you are completely justified in imposing sanctions, yes, you are not justified in forcing others to impose sanctions against their own will but then I'm sure you will be able to find that justifiable some way or the other.
--"That just shows how little radiation poisoning and the like was understood in 1945"
I guess that, that can be understood, as should the remorse they claim to have felt after they saw what happened in Japan.
Look I'm not arguing it from a cold rationalist viewpoint at all, I am agruing it from a moral standpoint. Yes, the firebombing of Tokyo was worse but I still shudder to think of the fact that killing off so many civilians can be justified so easily and coldly. I guess if some cell from somwwhere were to blow a nuke in New York, instead of the planes (I know I struck a nerve there and I apologise for it), it would be O.K. because that would demonstrate their resovle ?
Agreed, the U.S.A needed to disarm Japan however, the manner in which they did it is what you should object to rather than the ends acheived. To nuke some one to get them to submit wasnt a "necessary thing to do". Atleast thats what I think.
The reason I called it an anti muslim site was mostly cause it's a hindu fundamentalist site, being a hindu I kind of resent the people who take my religion to that fanatical extreme. I live in India by the way, the the whole persecution of hindus at the hand of muslims ermmm.. well lets say its not giving the complete picture. It is also true that Hindus are killing Hindus with each caste the upper and the lower asking for protection from the other side. Now, I'm not against my own religion but I do wish that the people would stop being sooo serious about it.
Why is it that whenever people wish to discredit another religion they link to the most fundamentalist of sites possible, the same thing had happened when this other guy did it for a hindu fundamentalist site, now you are doing it with the christian fundamentalists. I mean seriously, why are you trying to discredit them any ways just like your religion or lack thereof, their religion has its own positives and negatives. Why are you guys bothering to slug it out I dont know, but hey atleast get the facts straight since you pride yourselves on being "rational", "scientific" etc. etc.
dude, sorry to bust your bubble, now although I am not questioning the statistic it is entirely possible that that is true, however linking to an anti-muslim site is not exactly the best way to get the facts about muslims.
ermm.. no It was after a lab session, it was an extra research project we were doing under him. I'm not from America by the way - India. We also ussually dont have sermonising in our classrooms like I said this was in his room after a particularly screwed up lab session.
Problem is he is right, in electronics which is my field China is far ahead of us, he was just saying that we are ussually kind of confident that China will not be able to overtake us wrt software, but we shouldnt be so smug about it cause during his previous visit to China etc. etc. etc... you get the general idea right. Interestingly where are you from ?
actually you can ship your sick to India, and with the cost of health care there you will most probably end up spending less shipping in, getting the operation and shipping out than you would had you just stuck to America. Yes, you wouldnt get the best doctors there, but then you also dont get the best doctors at each hospital in America so its just about the same.
yeah well, I know this is kindo offtopic and its gonna burn me but they say the same about china overtaking india. I remember my prof. giving me an hour long lecture after this particular lab session that we had fucked up for our research project, that lecture consisted basically of how china is overtaking India, the US anything else and will be ahead of any other nation that youd care to name.
I actually wonder about somthing though, does democracy hinder progress ?
And about the whole engineers in india thing, it is ussually that the best, the brightest and those who wish to remain engineers rather than become managers are the ones that apply to the US grad schools. I am doing the same thing, one thing I wish though is that it wasnt as damned expensive as it is.
well at the risk of sounding sexist I would tend to agree with the statement above.
if I were to sample the Engineering colleges I have seen, the number of "good looking" female engineers who are good at what they do is almost negligible, the number of "plain" females who are good at it is a little more, but the number of females in engineering pales in comparison to the number of males. And hence arises what we term as the: brains beauty product. Like the gain bandwidth of an amplifier it is constant.
What I am in a very round about manner trying to say is that, yes women do face more problems in engineering, but there arent that many that actually apply for it, if the numbers were even on a 40:60 level I would then say that there is somthing wrong with the system. The numbers are closer to 25:75 in the favour of males, and hence whatever few women there are if even a small percentage of those become the butt of a joke then it seems as though they are being discriminated against.
Like I said this is just my observation, and conclusions I have reached from them.
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I would agree with you to a great extent however not completely, I find it tough to believe that you found your 11th and 12th boring, I am ofcourse assuming that like every one else you would have tried sitting for JEE. I remember though school during the 11th and 12th was never a challenge, studying a week or so before the exams would be enough to secure you top marks (no not me I was more of a two days before the exam kinda guy still top 5 isnt bad). But I think that had the pace for the 12th been the same as the pace for JEE, it would have been a lot more interesting then again my younger brother hardly studied (at least not like the ussual expectation) in his 11th and 12th and still managed to get through.
To each his own I guess, books however will pwn everything.
yes, it is a lot of money, and I believe they deserved it, I saw the kind of competition these guys had (two teams from my college had made it to the final round), and FFS, I cant beleive that you are comparing this to outsourcing, technically it is outsourcing but not in the sense of the word as used in pop-media.
no one stopped any one else from applying to the competiotion, if you had applied and done a better job of it than them, the 25K would have been yours.
" The researchers say more work needs to be done, but are unclear if this involves archaeology or experiments involving skewing the data in the local female population." needs to be corrected slightly and you have the solution to your problem
" The researchers say more work needs to be done, but are unclear if this involves archaeology or experiments involving screwing the local female population."
they are actually quite common in the govt. offices here in india which have not completely been computerised. And they are used in small shops for making copies of bills, since a computer would kind of be an overkill for that kind of work, (a 20K Rs. Computer would be more than the monthly income of most of the small shops).
Well I guess your not alone, I am from the below 30 crowd and still find it a shock when people need to use calculators to get the value of sine(30 degrees) etc. though I'm not particularly good with remembering cell numbers I do atleast remember the land lines. What I feel is that sooner or later, our brain is going to become a vestigial organ with most of its work being done by machines and it not getting enough "excercise" I'm scared it might be sooner.
That aside why the india bashing all of a sudden, I mean OK I agree that ussually, the work given here is mostly the crappy legwork that is extremely boring and etc. and etc. but then, can you honestly say that more than 80% of the companies in any other country are any more innovative or any more inventive, or on the bleeding edge --
no no, its like libraries of congress (lots of them), each linked each with lots of porn, each with different rules and librarians enforcing those rules. and then these set of tubes transfer the books from one part of the library to the other.
bleh... was trying to be funny... dont think I succeeded..:-\
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Apologies I meant is NOT jsutified
I wasnt trying a comparison but was trying to show that a statement that justifies the use of nuclear weapons by saying that by killing more people at a time using a single bomb rather than a few is jsutified.
No, I never said that imposing sanctions was unjustified. I am sure that if you condemn an act and you feel you dont want to economically help them or want their help you are completely justified in imposing sanctions, yes, you are not justified in forcing others to impose sanctions against their own will but then I'm sure you will be able to find that justifiable some way or the other.
--"That just shows how little radiation poisoning and the like was understood in 1945"
I guess that, that can be understood, as should the remorse they claim to have felt after they saw what happened in Japan.
Look I'm not arguing it from a cold rationalist viewpoint at all, I am agruing it from a moral standpoint. Yes, the firebombing of Tokyo was worse but I still shudder to think of the fact that killing off so many civilians can be justified so easily and coldly. I guess if some cell from somwwhere were to blow a nuke in New York, instead of the planes (I know I struck a nerve there and I apologise for it), it would be O.K. because that would demonstrate their resovle ?
Agreed, the U.S.A needed to disarm Japan however, the manner in which they did it is what you should object to rather than the ends acheived. To nuke some one to get them to submit wasnt a "necessary thing to do". Atleast thats what I think.
The reason I called it an anti muslim site was mostly cause it's a hindu fundamentalist site, being a hindu I kind of resent the people who take my religion to that fanatical extreme. I live in India by the way, the the whole persecution of hindus at the hand of muslims ermmm.. well lets say its not giving the complete picture. It is also true that Hindus are killing Hindus with each caste the upper and the lower asking for protection from the other side. Now, I'm not against my own religion but I do wish that the people would stop being sooo serious about it.
Why is it that whenever people wish to discredit another religion they link to the most fundamentalist of sites possible, the same thing had happened when this other guy did it for a hindu fundamentalist site, now you are doing it with the christian fundamentalists. I mean seriously, why are you trying to discredit them any ways just like your religion or lack thereof, their religion has its own positives and negatives. Why are you guys bothering to slug it out I dont know, but hey atleast get the facts straight since you pride yourselves on being "rational", "scientific" etc. etc.
dude, sorry to bust your bubble, now although I am not questioning the statistic it is entirely possible that that is true, however linking to an anti-muslim site is not exactly the best way to get the facts about muslims.
ermm.. no It was after a lab session, it was an extra research project we were doing under him. I'm not from America by the way - India. We also ussually dont have sermonising in our classrooms like I said this was in his room after a particularly screwed up lab session.
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Problem is he is right, in electronics which is my field China is far ahead of us, he was just saying that we are ussually kind of confident that China will not be able to overtake us wrt software, but we shouldnt be so smug about it cause during his previous visit to China etc. etc. etc
you get the general idea right. Interestingly where are you from ?
actually you can ship your sick to India, and with the cost of health care there you will most probably end up spending less shipping in, getting the operation and shipping out than you would had you just stuck to America. Yes, you wouldnt get the best doctors there, but then you also dont get the best doctors at each hospital in America so its just about the same.
yeah well, I know this is kindo offtopic and its gonna burn me but they say the same about china overtaking india. I remember my prof. giving me an hour long lecture after this particular lab session that we had fucked up for our research project, that lecture consisted basically of how china is overtaking India, the US anything else and will be ahead of any other nation that youd care to name. I actually wonder about somthing though, does democracy hinder progress ? And about the whole engineers in india thing, it is ussually that the best, the brightest and those who wish to remain engineers rather than become managers are the ones that apply to the US grad schools. I am doing the same thing, one thing I wish though is that it wasnt as damned expensive as it is.
arent both roughly the same around now ?
well at the risk of sounding sexist I would tend to agree with the statement above.
if I were to sample the Engineering colleges I have seen, the number of "good looking" female engineers who are good at what they do is almost negligible, the number of "plain" females who are good at it is a little more, but the number of females in engineering pales in comparison to the number of males. And hence arises what we term as the: brains beauty product. Like the gain bandwidth of an amplifier it is constant.
What I am in a very round about manner trying to say is that, yes women do face more problems in engineering, but there arent that many that actually apply for it, if the numbers were even on a 40:60 level I would then say that there is somthing wrong with the system. The numbers are closer to 25:75 in the favour of males, and hence whatever few women there are if even a small percentage of those become the butt of a joke then it seems as though they are being discriminated against.
Like I said this is just my observation, and conclusions I have reached from them.
I would agree with you to a great extent however not completely, I find it tough to believe that you found your 11th and 12th boring, I am ofcourse assuming that like every one else you would have tried sitting for JEE. I remember though school during the 11th and 12th was never a challenge, studying a week or so before the exams would be enough to secure you top marks (no not me I was more of a two days before the exam kinda guy still top 5 isnt bad). But I think that had the pace for the 12th been the same as the pace for JEE, it would have been a lot more interesting then again my younger brother hardly studied (at least not like the ussual expectation) in his 11th and 12th and still managed to get through.
To each his own I guess, books however will pwn everything.
yes, it is a lot of money, and I believe they deserved it, I saw the kind of competition these guys had (two teams from my college had made it to the final round), and FFS, I cant beleive that you are comparing this to outsourcing, technically it is outsourcing but not in the sense of the word as used in pop-media.
no one stopped any one else from applying to the competiotion, if you had applied and done a better job of it than them, the 25K would have been yours.
" The researchers say more work needs to be done, but are unclear if this involves archaeology or experiments involving screwing the local female population."
they are actually quite common in the govt. offices here in india which have not completely been computerised. And they are used in small shops for making copies of bills, since a computer would kind of be an overkill for that kind of work, (a 20K Rs. Computer would be more than the monthly income of most of the small shops).
Well I guess your not alone, I am from the below 30 crowd and still find it a shock when people need to use calculators to get the value of sine(30 degrees) etc. though I'm not particularly good with remembering cell numbers I do atleast remember the land lines. What I feel is that sooner or later, our brain is going to become a vestigial organ with most of its work being done by machines and it not getting enough "excercise" I'm scared it might be sooner.
oho,
thanks didnt know.
but is a a one machine, two node cluster still called a cluster
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Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these !!!
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That aside why the india bashing all of a sudden, I mean OK I agree that ussually, the work given here is mostly the crappy legwork that is extremely boring and etc. and etc. but then, can you honestly say that more than 80% of the companies in any other country are any more innovative or any more inventive, or on the bleeding edge --
I'm from india you insensitive clod!
no no, its like libraries of congress (lots of them), each linked each with lots of porn, each with different rules and librarians enforcing those rules. and then these set of tubes transfer the books from one part of the library to the other.
... was trying to be funny ... dont think I succeeded .. :-\
bleh
baah I can make happen so that it makes the run in 11 parsecs.
can I have that in libraries of congress please ?
*ducks*