I've had a good deal of success in the past with FreeDOS and old DOS games. Star Control 2 and Doom both worked quite well. However neither Doom nor Star Control 2 need DOS to run anymore (the creators of Star Control 2 GPL'ed the code and released it, available here, and Doom's engines are also open sourced as well, throw the ole wads in there and you got a game), so I haven't had a FreeDOS partition in a while.
I ran the installer exe for andale mono a few minutes ago in wine, with the fake windows installation directory (i don't have any actual microsoft dlls on my machine anymore), and it installed fine under.wine/fake_windows/Windows/Fonts. I put it in my fontpath and it worked fine. So, just take those exe's and run wine on them from the command line and it should work fine, in theory.
Its been my experience with Internet Explorer 6, in an objective manner, that it was engineered from the ground up for use on an NT5 or greater system, such as Windows 2000 or Windows XP. On those operating systems, it runs very stably in my experience. On a 9x system, yeah IE6 will run, but it will as the parent said, bring the whole damn system down with it. I really don't have any experience with IE 5 or 6 on ME, because it was such utter garbage when I installed it, that I formatted the drive it was on the next day and didn't look back. As for linux or other platforms, Mozilla, Opera, and Konqueror all have their pros and cons, and are all MOSTLY good browsers. All in all, I would say never put any version of IE greater than 5.5 on a win 9x system, but if you are running 2000 or XP, 6.0+ should be fine, in most circumstances.
Moderations on the parent post and grandparent post are way off of what they should be.
The grandparent post was not off-topic if you had read the linked article on newsforge.
And this individual with his large rant here, on the parent post, had taken the grandparent post entirely out of context, as it was an excerpt from the article, describing a possible solution to the United Linux problem, and the title showed that the poster had thought it was a naive solution. It was not in the slightest bit off-topic, if you had read the article linked to this article.
Moderators, please correct both of these mistakes.
Then walk the fuck out. Tell them to take their Microsoft and their Passport and shove it so far up their ass that they get a nosebleed. Why the hell are people so afraid to protest today, to sacrifice a few dollars earned for the good of everyone? We need to grow some balls, America and do exactly what being an American is about. Protest. Organize. Tell this neo-facism-corporatism system that is being bolted together by MSUSA to cram it, run linux/bsd/macos/qnx/drdos/whatever on your machines and if you lose some money so be it. I hate to swear like this but my god I am seriously getting sick of hearing from timid sheep who say "I don't like it but there isn't much I can do" which is complete and utter crap. To hell with Microsoft and to hell with Passport, if a job requires me to sign up with Passport to get a paycheck I will gladly tell them to cram it. Even if I have to work at a gas station for a few months to keep the bills paid. So be it. Don't be afraid to form unions and protest, and don't be afraid to write your congressman. Remember 1776? Remember the constitution that these people in office swear to protect and uphold? It protects your rights to just that. Forget being a timid little sheep that will just go "oh well, I don't like it, but I need this job" just walk the fuck out. Lets get back to being Americans, people and unlearn the illusion.
Heh I agreed once to partner up with a guy who had this sort of mentality. I set up a web site with content, and all he cared about was being first in all the search engines. He got a job for this lady from the forest service to make a logo, and he couldn't even put that together, blaming his computer's memory (which tested out to be fine, by the way). When I realized that this guy couldn't even do what he was advertising that he could do, I hit the high road. He went out of business two weeks later. Hmmmm.
Its not mentioned by Microsoft or in any help files, but there are replacements for the explorer.exe shell in existence that effectively function like putting a new window manager up on Windows OSen. I can't find the official website but here's one that will give you the general drift for LiteStep, a shell replacement for Windows I know of offhand. My OS of choice is Linux, simply for stability/usability's sake, but there are other desktops available to Windows users beyond the ugly win32/explorer shell.
go ahead mod me down as redundant, but Microsoft is known for astroturfing in the past. I remain skeptical. Hey they oughtta implement a (-1 Astroturfer) moderation... just a thought
I hate to AOL here, but I've always been a supporter of the 2nd (and the wholeness of the rest of them) amendment, as well as encryption, ever since talk of banning it started being tossed around by the clueless in power. They don't realize that they can't ban encryption in afghanistan or wherever this stuff is going on, and there are plenty of ways (as stated above) to make strong encryption look weak. Its as the old saying goes, updated to fit the times, "if you outlaw encryption, only outlaws will use encryptiion."
Something I just thought of... Legislators are required to swear under oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution. Would appear that John Ashcroft and the like are guilty of purgery here. Just a thought.
Kind of adding to this... when I was living in Sunnyvale, California last year, I worked at a store called Action Computers, that was just about four blocks away from the Fry's Electronics in Sunnyvale. Often we would have customers who tried to build their own computers for the first time come in with a pile of parts, that they gave up on, and have us build us their systems. Very often, there would be one or more or all of the parts that would be defective. We would ask them if they bought their stuff at Fry's and more often enough their answer was yes. Fry's has no quality control whatsoever, and it is normal practice for them to take something that was returned as defective and place it right back up on the shelves. I could smell a class action suit against Fry's if they are as incopetent with customer information as I believe they will be. I certainly wouldn't want my information in their hands.
hehe or the time I got banned from the library for "hacking" when all I was doing was using one of the "Lite Search Station" kiosks that were set up to only view library databases to log onto a MUD. All I did was put telnet://mud.url.net:PORT# in the Location bar on IE and it executed telnet... I laughed for weeks at them, hell I still get a chuckle... "hacking" being defined as running telnet... *snickers*
I was just thinking of a business idea earlier today and this was posted, and my idea would take advantage obsolete hardware. I'm thinking of setting up a business setting up masquerading firewalls for home broadband users. Put Debian or Slack on one of these guys, tighten it up, set it up as the gateway for Joe User's DSL or Cable setup. They're happy because their fears of "hackers" are calmed down and you get their DSL setup too, and you're happy because when they screw up the network settings you will have them as repeated clients.
Ok at this point I have to rant. I must admit first that what I am ranting about I am just as guilty of, that is laughing at the expensive of the "technologically inept". I have had an intuitive connection with computers and electronics from my very youth. I used to hack Apple II Basic on the elementary school computers in the fourth grade. (Ok basic really isn't much to brag about, but I'm not bragging I am making a point). The first time I saw a mouse I knew exactly how to use it. When an icon wouldn't open by clicking once on it, I clicked rapidly on it and it would. I taught myself the double-click by trial and error. Later I taught myself how to use DOS by typing "help" at the C:\ prompt and then peering through *all* the helpfiles. I became a whizzer at creating intricate batch files. Then I learned windows 3.1, which was nothing as I had previously learned a mac. *BIG DEAL*. Continuing on this line, I got into muds. I decided to start my own. I paid for a shell account. Somehow, by dumb luck or trial and error I figured out that "man" was the unix equivalent of "help". I read hundreds of man pages. *BIG DEAL*. I write bash and csh scripts in my sleep. I code in C and C++. I *DO NOT* think that I am better or more intelligent than anyone else! I have a talent. Everyone has a talent. Looking down on someone because they have no idea how to program their VCR *let alone* use a mouse, is really pathetic in my humble(?) opinion. (Ok I'm gonna lose a karma point here, but I'm really not trying to troll. I'm just pissed off at the arrogance I see in the technologically adept community here.) That person you may be thumbing your nose at for sounding "stupid" for not having the same talent as you do may be a whiz-bang tailor/seamstress/mechanic/doctor/lawyer/janitor/p atent clerk/astrophysicist/whatever and have a talent in a field that may be totally alien to you. And admit it yourself. There are plenty of things out there you *can not* do, no matter who you are. There is a learning curve in all this. My/our talent for computers is *not* the rule, rather its the exception to the rule. Albert Einstein could not dress or do basic math, as an example. It took me until I was 26 to learn how to drive a car. I still don't know what the hell the difference is between an O-Ring and a Front-head-gasket-widget is, even though I spent years watching my dad work on his car. Sorry about the long-winded post I just felt that I needed to get this off my chest.
Disclaimer: I have always known what double-click meant. Maybe I was lucky.
Yeah for someone who has started using their first computer for their first time, it would be perfectly logical to assume that double-click meant to use both buttons. As for the idiocy of taking a job at Dell Tech Support -- What do they pay? Do they have a dental plan? If Dell is good to their employees then I don't see the idiocy for working tech support for them either. Whatever pays for the cable modem and puts food in the microwave, eh?
Had I been moderating your comment, I would have given you a +1, insightful. Anywho, I agree with your post. I am currently studying to get a HAM license some time in the future, as I know that if the sh*t hit the proverbial fan, which is indeed possible looking at the writing on the wall of the world today, amateur radio would indeed keep a line of communications open in communities hard-hit with a natural disaster or a war. They don't talk much in the media about how helpful amateur radio has been in the past, in places like Croatia, or other places where a natural disaster or war has hit and amateur radio was able to get the real stories out. Art Bell, a radio talk show host on the nighttime airwaves has spoken about amateur radio a bit, but only because he is also a ham himself. Cheers.
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I don't have to hit the web looking for the magic string to apt-get
Well, I never have... when I need something I just "apt-cache search " for
what I need. Just got to use a bit of logic... Before I figured out
the beauty and wonder of apt-cache, I would simply put a couple keywords in
the search box at freshmeat.net, and it would come up with
a package name. That's cheating I know but it worked.:)
Anywho, I will be experimenting with FreeBSD very soon, probably as
soon as I can get access to a box with broadband and a burner to burn
the ISO. I am looking forward to playing around with the ports
feature now that I got a working idea of how it works. I
will probably never give up my Debian, but thats the beauty of having
alot of spare hdd's lying around. I don't have to.:)
Yes! Just as I was saying in an earlier post, that
us *nix users should quit bashing each other and our
personal choice of OS. The fact of the matter is that
we all use a great OS, whether it is BSD or Linux. And
as far as license wars are concerned, I think that is relevant
to a degree, but the basic gist of the GPL and BSD licenses
are similar. Share the source, share the software. GPL to
me is for those who do not wish to see their code integrated in
the next version of Windows (or MacOS), and BSD is for those
who really couldn't give a rats ass who uses their code as long
as its used. Both licenses have their purpose, and
both licenses push forward the concept of free software.
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Youre welcome.
And give this guy a break, will ya mods?
http://slashdot.org/~Dunkelzahn/journal/
That sig was a reference to 1984 by George Orwell.
When the trolls get mod points... everybody suffers.
I've had a good deal of success in the past with FreeDOS and old DOS games. Star Control 2 and Doom both worked quite well. However neither Doom nor Star Control 2 need DOS to run anymore (the creators of Star Control 2 GPL'ed the code and released it, available here, and Doom's engines are also open sourced as well, throw the ole wads in there and you got a game), so I haven't had a FreeDOS partition in a while.
Ya ever hear of um... Darwin/x86?
Not trolling here, but after starting to read Gentoo's installation pages, I opted out to do a Linux system from scratch instead. Maybe I'm just lazy.
I ran the installer exe for andale mono a few minutes ago in wine, with the fake windows installation directory (i don't have any actual microsoft dlls on my machine anymore), and it installed fine under .wine/fake_windows/Windows/Fonts. I put it in my fontpath and it worked fine. So, just take those exe's and run wine on them from the command line and it should work fine, in theory.
Its been my experience with Internet Explorer 6, in an objective manner, that it was engineered from the ground up for use on an NT5 or greater system, such as Windows 2000 or Windows XP. On those operating systems, it runs very stably in my experience. On a 9x system, yeah IE6 will run, but it will as the parent said, bring the whole damn system down with it. I really don't have any experience with IE 5 or 6 on ME, because it was such utter garbage when I installed it, that I formatted the drive it was on the next day and didn't look back. As for linux or other platforms, Mozilla, Opera, and Konqueror all have their pros and cons, and are all MOSTLY good browsers. All in all, I would say never put any version of IE greater than 5.5 on a win 9x system, but if you are running 2000 or XP, 6.0+ should be fine, in most circumstances.
Moderations on the parent post and grandparent post are way off of what they should be.
The grandparent post was not off-topic if you had read the linked article on newsforge.
And this individual with his large rant here, on the parent post, had taken the grandparent post entirely out of context, as it was an excerpt from the article, describing a possible solution to the United Linux problem, and the title showed that the poster had thought it was a naive solution. It was not in the slightest bit off-topic, if you had read the article linked to this article.
Moderators, please correct both of these mistakes.
Thank you for your time.
Then walk the fuck out. Tell them to take their Microsoft and their Passport and shove it so far up their ass that they get a nosebleed. Why the hell are people so afraid to protest today, to sacrifice a few dollars earned for the good of everyone? We need to grow some balls, America and do exactly what being an American is about. Protest. Organize. Tell this neo-facism-corporatism system that is being bolted together by MSUSA to cram it, run linux/bsd/macos/qnx/drdos/whatever on your machines and if you lose some money so be it. I hate to swear like this but my god I am seriously getting sick of hearing from timid sheep who say "I don't like it but there isn't much I can do" which is complete and utter crap. To hell with Microsoft and to hell with Passport, if a job requires me to sign up with Passport to get a paycheck I will gladly tell them to cram it. Even if I have to work at a gas station for a few months to keep the bills paid. So be it. Don't be afraid to form unions and protest, and don't be afraid to write your congressman. Remember 1776? Remember the constitution that these people in office swear to protect and uphold? It protects your rights to just that. Forget being a timid little sheep that will just go "oh well, I don't like it, but I need this job" just walk the fuck out. Lets get back to being Americans, people and unlearn the illusion.
Heh I agreed once to partner up with a guy who had this sort of mentality. I set up a web site with content, and all he cared about was being first in all the search engines. He got a job for this lady from the forest service to make a logo, and he couldn't even put that together, blaming his computer's memory (which tested out to be fine, by the way). When I realized that this guy couldn't even do what he was advertising that he could do, I hit the high road. He went out of business two weeks later. Hmmmm.
Its not mentioned by Microsoft or in any help files, but there are replacements for the explorer.exe shell in existence that effectively function like putting a new window manager up on Windows OSen. I can't find the official website but here's one that will give you the general drift for LiteStep,
a shell replacement for Windows I know of offhand. My OS of choice is Linux, simply for stability/usability's sake, but there are other desktops available to Windows users beyond the ugly win32/explorer shell.
go ahead mod me down as redundant, but Microsoft is known for astroturfing in the past. I remain skeptical. Hey they oughtta implement a (-1 Astroturfer) moderation... just a thought
vaguely like astroturf?
Or is it just me...
I hate to AOL here, but I've always been a supporter of the 2nd (and the wholeness of the rest of them) amendment, as well as encryption, ever since talk of banning it started being tossed around by the clueless in power. They don't realize that they can't ban encryption in afghanistan or wherever this stuff is going on, and there are plenty of ways (as stated above) to make strong encryption look weak. Its as the old saying goes, updated to fit the times, "if you outlaw encryption, only outlaws will use encryptiion."
Something I just thought of... Legislators are required to swear under oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution. Would appear that John Ashcroft and the like are guilty of purgery here. Just a thought.
Kind of adding to this... when I was living in Sunnyvale, California last year, I worked at a store called Action Computers, that was just about four blocks away from the Fry's Electronics in Sunnyvale. Often we would have customers who tried to build their own computers for the first time come in with a pile of parts, that they gave up on, and have us build us their systems. Very often, there would be one or more or all of the parts that would be defective. We would ask them if they bought their stuff at Fry's and more often enough their answer was yes. Fry's has no quality control whatsoever, and it is normal practice for them to take something that was returned as defective and place it right back up on the shelves. I could smell a class action suit against Fry's if they are as incopetent with customer information as I believe they will be. I certainly wouldn't want my information in their hands.
hehe or the time I got banned from the library for "hacking" when all I was doing was using one of the "Lite Search Station" kiosks that were set up to only view library databases to log onto a MUD. All I did was put telnet://mud.url.net:PORT# in the Location bar on IE and it executed telnet... I laughed for weeks at them, hell I still get a chuckle... "hacking" being defined as running telnet... *snickers*
I was just thinking of a business idea earlier today and this was posted, and my idea would take advantage obsolete hardware. I'm thinking of setting up a business setting up masquerading firewalls for home broadband users. Put Debian or Slack on one of these guys, tighten it up, set it up as the gateway for Joe User's DSL or Cable setup. They're happy because their fears of "hackers" are calmed down and you get their DSL setup too, and you're happy because when they screw up the network settings you will have them as repeated clients.
actually, I saw a wells fargo ATM machine reboot a couple months ago. And yes it was running OS/2.
Ok at this point I have to rant. I must admit first that what I am ranting about I am just as guilty of, that is laughing at the expensive of the "technologically inept". I have had an intuitive connection with computers and electronics from my very youth. I used to hack Apple II Basic on the elementary school computers in the fourth grade. (Ok basic really isn't much to brag about, but I'm not bragging I am making a point). The first time I saw a mouse I knew exactly how to use it. When an icon wouldn't open by clicking once on it, I clicked rapidly on it and it would. I taught myself the double-click by trial and error. Later I taught myself how to use DOS by typing "help" at the C:\ prompt and then peering through *all* the helpfiles. I became a whizzer at creating intricate batch files. Then I learned windows 3.1, which was nothing as I had previously learned a mac. *BIG DEAL*. Continuing on this line, I got into muds. I decided to start my own. I paid for a shell account. Somehow, by dumb luck or trial and error I figured out that "man" was the unix equivalent of "help". I read hundreds of man pages. *BIG DEAL*. I write bash and csh scripts in my sleep. I code in C and C++. I *DO NOT* think that I am better or more intelligent than anyone else! I have a talent. Everyone has a talent. Looking down on someone because they have no idea how to program their VCR *let alone* use a mouse, is really pathetic in my humble(?) opinion. (Ok I'm gonna lose a karma point here, but I'm really not trying to troll. I'm just pissed off at the arrogance I see in the technologically adept community here.) That person you may be thumbing your nose at for sounding "stupid" for not having the same talent as you do may be a whiz-bang tailor/seamstress/mechanic/doctor/lawyer/janitor/p atent clerk/astrophysicist/whatever and have a talent in a field that may be totally alien to you. And admit it yourself. There are plenty of things out there you *can not* do, no matter who you are. There is a learning curve in all this. My/our talent for computers is *not* the rule, rather its the exception to the rule. Albert Einstein could not dress or do basic math, as an example. It took me until I was 26 to learn how to drive a car. I still don't know what the hell the difference is between an O-Ring and a Front-head-gasket-widget is, even though I spent years watching my dad work on his car. Sorry about the long-winded post I just felt that I needed to get this off my chest.
Disclaimer: I have always known what double-click meant. Maybe I was lucky.
Yeah for someone who has started using their first computer for their first time, it would be perfectly logical to assume that double-click meant to use both buttons. As for the idiocy of taking a job at Dell Tech Support -- What do they pay? Do they have a dental plan? If Dell is good to their employees then I don't see the idiocy for working tech support for them either. Whatever pays for the cable modem and puts food in the microwave, eh?
Had I been moderating your comment, I would have given you a +1, insightful. Anywho, I agree with your post. I am currently studying to get a HAM license some time in the future, as I know that if the sh*t hit the proverbial fan, which is indeed possible looking at the writing on the wall of the world today, amateur radio would indeed keep a line of communications open in communities hard-hit with a natural disaster or a war. They don't talk much in the media about how helpful amateur radio has been in the past, in places like Croatia, or other places where a natural disaster or war has hit and amateur radio was able to get the real stories out. Art Bell, a radio talk show host on the nighttime airwaves has spoken about amateur radio a bit, but only because he is also a ham himself. Cheers.
I don't have to hit the web looking for the magic string to apt-get :) :)
Well, I never have... when I need something I just "apt-cache search " for what I need. Just got to use a bit of logic... Before I figured out the beauty and wonder of apt-cache, I would simply put a couple keywords in the search box at freshmeat.net, and it would come up with a package name. That's cheating I know but it worked.
Anywho, I will be experimenting with FreeBSD very soon, probably as soon as I can get access to a box with broadband and a burner to burn the ISO. I am looking forward to playing around with the ports feature now that I got a working idea of how it works. I will probably never give up my Debian, but thats the beauty of having alot of spare hdd's lying around. I don't have to.
Yes! Just as I was saying in an earlier post, that us *nix users should quit bashing each other and our personal choice of OS. The fact of the matter is that we all use a great OS, whether it is BSD or Linux. And as far as license wars are concerned, I think that is relevant to a degree, but the basic gist of the GPL and BSD licenses are similar. Share the source, share the software. GPL to me is for those who do not wish to see their code integrated in the next version of Windows (or MacOS), and BSD is for those who really couldn't give a rats ass who uses their code as long as its used. Both licenses have their purpose, and both licenses push forward the concept of free software.