I should have been more clear in the first post...for a few moments of being goofy, we had people getting k-lined (or the temporary opn equivalent) A kickban would have been perfectly acceptable, but instead I had to defend a group of law-abiding, peaceful irc members. When I got into #openprojects, every single op took a shot at me. Yeah, maybe there's a few reasonable ones there, but they sure weren't around that night. In the end, it was a huge over-reaction on their part about something that could have been laughed off as some people acting like dummies...
We didn't get kicked, moron, they were k-lined. A kickban would have been 100% appropriate. But I guess that's asking too much out of a bunch of humor-impared jerk-offs.
I would have been happy with just a kickban, but instead it was all kinds of k-lines and grief for the next 90 mins. We were just being dumb for a few mins, something that didn't require such overreaction. Just because someone does something for free it doesn't give them license to act like assholes
Quoted from the end of the article: They martyred me," Griffiths said. "Which was a great thing."
I think that quote is huge. Without the suspension, without the school officials refusing to change, and without the media attention, his voice would have never been heard.
You know, your post would have been +5 in my book if only you had left out the generalization of all Slashdotters. This is one comment out of 400+ so far. One. Go ahead and flame that loser back to hell, but don't you dare lump me (and all the other sensible people here) in with that kind of crap. Appealing to some false majority won't get you anywhere...
Have you ever tried typing a language like Chinese/Japanese, etc? It's terribly difficult. That is probably the number one reason why Chinese will never become the main language of the internet.
This has got to be the most disappointing discussion I've ever seen on Slashdot. The amount of pure ignorance about art is astounding. There are about 2 posts that genuinely critique the piece. The rest of you slugs couldn't rise above the "This is ART?, my 3 year old could do that, look-I-took-a-dump-let's-call-it-art" comments that I hear from my hick relatives in West Virginia. Truly pathetic.
Instead, another hacker suggested, the "cybercrime outbreak" is nothing more than noisy teen-agers committing high-profile, low-impact Web site hacks. But those crimes are being used as rationale by governments and law enforcement agencies to pass highly restrictive laws.
"There is a certain hysteria about cybercrime," the hacker said. "But I don't think anyone has stolen money from a bank using the Internet yet."
To me, this is the heart of the problem. We have stupid script kiddies defacing web pages and the media calling that "hacking". So the gov't uses that as an excuse to introduce a police state on the net. It's only a matter of time before the Internet is clamped down so thoroughly we won't even recognize it. Anyone ever read Tad Williams Otherland? In that story there's something called "Treehouse" that is the last refuge for hackers, an idependent, rogue netowrk that the corporations can't control. I think it's time we start planning for something like that...
BTW, is there any place that has legitimate numbers on the amount of money lost to "hackers"? It seems to me that marketing people pull stuff out of their ass just to sell a security product. And how much money could Ford lose when their front page is defaced for a few hours?? Have any banks been broken into using the internet??
you've managed to accuse ralph nader of being both a communist and nazi, great strawman...
Ummm, I don't see him calling Nader a communist anywhere, do you? Oh, maybe you meant socialist? Big difference pal, get your "isms" straight. And you also seem to be confused as to what a "strawman" is. Here's a quick lesson: a strawman argument is a weak argument you present and then easily tear it down to make your side look better. That post wasn't tearing down any weak arguments, either. Calling anyone a "Nazi" or a "Communist" doesn't constitue using a "strawman". Back to PHIL 101, moron.
the Britney Spears of presidential candidates, Ralph Nader
Hm, let's see. Britney has millions of fans, has sold out concerts, appears on countless talk shows/tv specials/interviews, has the IQ of a very large grape, and is a household name across the US. Ralph is an extremely intelligent man who can even get into the debates as a spectator and typically gets the response "Ralph who?" when brought up in conversation. Britney represents corporate manipulation in the music industry while Ralph is vehemently opposed to corporate interference. Britney=mainstream, Ralph="radical".
Now what exactly are you talking about? Seems to be a troll pot-shot if I've ever seen one.
So you've determined your vote based on a single issue? Wow, how incredibly stupid. I could search the world over and never find a candidate that I agree with on every issue. Now maybe that's the most important issue to you, which is fine, I guess. Of course, have you ever considered the possibility that 3rd party groups could buy that land for the sake of preservation? Nah, prolly not, you're obviously too hung up on the 'park issue' to consider anything but "immediate destruction" once National Parks are deregulated.
Anyway, you are free to worry about the things important to you. In the mean time I'll go back to Corporatism, gov't intrusion of rights, national debt, and all the other things I'm worried about this election.
so I'll vote for Gore 'cuz its gonna be to close of an election to risk wasting my vote making a "Statement" on a 3rd party candidate
Is Gore who you really think is the best candidate? If so, by all means vote for him. But don't give me that crap about wasting a vote. The only vote wasted is the one for a candidate you don't think is best. How many times does this cliche need to be repeated until you get in into your thick, geek skull?
"We" (whoever that is) don't need endorsements, we need quality software. Your comment is as informative as the assembly instructions for my bookshelf...written in Chinese.
ooooo, now I've been trolled by an AC with such deep insights. But was "trollboy" the best you could come up with? I mean, at least get some offensive language in there, maybe a racial slur or two?
Correct. Buying a computer with a preinstalled, OEM MS operating system means you will not get an original CD. This hold true for any mfg out there. More MS double speak, blech...
*sigh* I was hoping you'd be one less person in the world misusing the term "ironic." Ever since that damn Alanis Morisette song, the number of people using it incorrectly has tripled at least.:P If you couldn't figure out why your example wasn't truly ironic, I'm not going to waste my time giving you an English lesson.
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I should have been more clear in the first post...for a few moments of being goofy, we had people getting k-lined (or the temporary opn equivalent) A kickban would have been perfectly acceptable, but instead I had to defend a group of law-abiding, peaceful irc members. When I got into #openprojects, every single op took a shot at me. Yeah, maybe there's a few reasonable ones there, but they sure weren't around that night. In the end, it was a huge over-reaction on their part about something that could have been laughed off as some people acting like dummies...
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We didn't get kicked, moron, they were k-lined. A kickban would have been 100% appropriate. But I guess that's asking too much out of a bunch of humor-impared jerk-offs.
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I would have been happy with just a kickban, but instead it was all kinds of k-lines and grief for the next 90 mins. We were just being dumb for a few mins, something that didn't require such overreaction. Just because someone does something for free it doesn't give them license to act like assholes
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Quoted from the end of the article:
They martyred me," Griffiths said. "Which was a great thing."
I think that quote is huge. Without the suspension, without the school officials refusing to change, and without the media attention, his voice would have never been heard.
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You do that on my server and you get added to the ipchains firewall. Plain and simple.
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I couldn't get a search for "in.inetd" to work properly either. I don't think I'll give up on them just for that, though.
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You know, your post would have been +5 in my book if only you had left out the generalization of all Slashdotters. This is one comment out of 400+ so far. One. Go ahead and flame that loser back to hell, but don't you dare lump me (and all the other sensible people here) in with that kind of crap. Appealing to some false majority won't get you anywhere...
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There's only one other person who could do such a thing...Signal 11. You're not fooling anyone.
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Yeah, slavery and racism is on par with paying $8 and seeing a different movie. Are you really an idiot, or do you just play one on Slashdot?
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Have you ever tried typing a language like Chinese/Japanese, etc? It's terribly difficult. That is probably the number one reason why Chinese will never become the main language of the internet.
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This has got to be the most disappointing discussion I've ever seen on Slashdot. The amount of pure ignorance about art is astounding. There are about 2 posts that genuinely critique the piece. The rest of you slugs couldn't rise above the "This is ART?, my 3 year old could do that, look-I-took-a-dump-let's-call-it-art" comments that I hear from my hick relatives in West Virginia. Truly pathetic.
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Instead, another hacker suggested, the "cybercrime outbreak" is nothing more than noisy teen-agers committing high-profile, low-impact Web site hacks. But those crimes are being used as rationale by governments and law enforcement agencies to pass highly restrictive laws.
"There is a certain hysteria about cybercrime," the hacker said. "But I don't think anyone has stolen money from a bank using the Internet yet."
To me, this is the heart of the problem. We have stupid script kiddies defacing web pages and the media calling that "hacking". So the gov't uses that as an excuse to introduce a police state on the net. It's only a matter of time before the Internet is clamped down so thoroughly we won't even recognize it. Anyone ever read Tad Williams Otherland? In that story there's something called "Treehouse" that is the last refuge for hackers, an idependent, rogue netowrk that the corporations can't control. I think it's time we start planning for something like that...
BTW, is there any place that has legitimate numbers on the amount of money lost to "hackers"? It seems to me that marketing people pull stuff out of their ass just to sell a security product. And how much money could Ford lose when their front page is defaced for a few hours?? Have any banks been broken into using the internet??
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you've managed to accuse ralph nader of being both a communist and nazi, great strawman...
Ummm, I don't see him calling Nader a communist anywhere, do you? Oh, maybe you meant socialist? Big difference pal, get your "isms" straight. And you also seem to be confused as to what a "strawman" is. Here's a quick lesson: a strawman argument is a weak argument you present and then easily tear it down to make your side look better. That post wasn't tearing down any weak arguments, either. Calling anyone a "Nazi" or a "Communist" doesn't constitue using a "strawman". Back to PHIL 101, moron.
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the Britney Spears of presidential candidates, Ralph Nader
Hm, let's see. Britney has millions of fans, has sold out concerts, appears on countless talk shows/tv specials/interviews, has the IQ of a very large grape, and is a household name across the US. Ralph is an extremely intelligent man who can even get into the debates as a spectator and typically gets the response "Ralph who?" when brought up in conversation. Britney represents corporate manipulation in the music industry while Ralph is vehemently opposed to corporate interference. Britney=mainstream, Ralph="radical".
Now what exactly are you talking about? Seems to be a troll pot-shot if I've ever seen one.
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So you've determined your vote based on a single issue? Wow, how incredibly stupid. I could search the world over and never find a candidate that I agree with on every issue. Now maybe that's the most important issue to you, which is fine, I guess. Of course, have you ever considered the possibility that 3rd party groups could buy that land for the sake of preservation? Nah, prolly not, you're obviously too hung up on the 'park issue' to consider anything but "immediate destruction" once National Parks are deregulated.
Anyway, you are free to worry about the things important to you. In the mean time I'll go back to Corporatism, gov't intrusion of rights, national debt, and all the other things I'm worried about this election.
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so I'll vote for Gore 'cuz its gonna be to close of an election to risk wasting my vote making a "Statement" on a 3rd party candidate
Is Gore who you really think is the best candidate? If so, by all means vote for him. But don't give me that crap about wasting a vote. The only vote wasted is the one for a candidate you don't think is best. How many times does this cliche need to be repeated until you get in into your thick, geek skull?
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"We" (whoever that is) don't need endorsements, we need quality software. Your comment is as informative as the assembly instructions for my bookshelf...written in Chinese.
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It's morons like you that keep us locked in a two party system. Vote your conscience or don't bother voting at all.
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ooooo, now I've been trolled by an AC with such deep insights. But was "trollboy" the best you could come up with? I mean, at least get some offensive language in there, maybe a racial slur or two?
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*sigh* Haven't you learned the first rule in grammar checking?
Check your own words before you flame.
It's spelled "sentences" you twit.
Of course, I could just be falling for a troll...It's so hard to tell these days.
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Correct. Buying a computer with a preinstalled, OEM MS operating system means you will not get an original CD. This hold true for any mfg out there. More MS double speak, blech...
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have a version with the nicks preserved?
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sweet mother, I didn't think it was legit until I got into it...Where's the rest? I'd love to see what Sig 11 asked during the last "5 min"
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Oh man, what an incredibly funny post. Kent Brockman is one of my favorite characters :)
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*sigh* I was hoping you'd be one less person in the world misusing the term "ironic." Ever since that damn Alanis Morisette song, the number of people using it incorrectly has tripled at least. :P If you couldn't figure out why your example wasn't truly ironic, I'm not going to waste my time giving you an English lesson.
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