A lot of people are scared of cloning. That's pretty much what most of the comments I'm reading are. As I hold to no religion, and have such a lax view on government that I have trouble even looking at it with any sort of distaste, this makes it very easy for me to look more at the words of the people who are replying to this topic.
Cloning has great benefits, and great detriments. Look at automobiles, however. A technology that's been antiquated for, at the very least, 25 years, but we still use it daily, and it still clogs our atmospheres and causes a lot of other social trends that can be viewed as . . not-so-good. However, they're cheap to produce, reap great profits (fueling capitalism) and there are quite a few people out there who know quite a bit about them. The good with the bad, as it were.
This will seem a bad segue, but people are afraid of fantasy coming true. They're afraid of losing their identity, losing their sacred host as humans. After all, if humanity loses its sacred legacy of being only God-created, where will things such as religion be? They were, after all, created thousands of years ago, by people who were more often than not trying to either instill a set of morals to create a culture of happy, feeling ascetics, or ravaging savage hoardes who eventually needed a bigger fear than themselves to control their empires. They are afraid that once we begin to clone people, we'll forget that human is human, and begin to create a super race that's far superior to any homo-sapien, or that we'll begin to have duplicate 'us's running around. That would be the shows eXo-Squad and Bill and Ted's Bogus Adventure.
However, the problem lies in that people don't understand a lot of what will happen. There's no way, currently, to imprint a mind, so we can't transfer over memories or thought patterns. No worries there. We can't 'fast track' growth, so these embryos would still take quite awhile to grow, and then begin to learn. They couldn't replace us in any way, except some really faulty biometrics. But, then, people have been proving that the current biometrics systems are faulted. Scotch tape, after all, isn't that hard to get.
Then maybe there's the sentience angle. What's your first memory? I certainly don't remember any sperm against my egg. People who have memory regression can very rarely call up anything earlier than 2 years. Should a woman be shot because she has a miscarriage? Under certain views, after all, this could be considered an accidental homicide. There is no malice, but there is a definite killing of possibilities.
Of course, people bring up the point of 'what if that foetus was you?'. Would it matter? If you truly take a religious stance, what kind of God wouldn't allow a little recycling of souls to go about? Either that, or Heaven (and Hell, to be fair) will be synergistic. There's only say many ways a person can be different from another, after all, which means you'd have duplicate souls in the dietical planes. (Side thought: I wonder if it would work like DiabloII's anti-cheat. "A duplicate soul has been detected. Removing.")
We place too much of an importance on our 'self' identities. No one of us is too important to not be here. No one is the pinion of human hope and human life. They are all ingested in what is becoming a more global society. Mother Theresa, who was touted as one of the greatest, most giving people ever, slipped into what ever happens at death, and no one gave it too much mind. Sure, some did, but not terribly much. More was done for Princess Diana, as she sped away from reporters with a boyfriend. Why? Who's to say. Di was more human, maybe. There was more of a connection for these people to relate.. and, in that, maybe we find the true secret. People are afraid that they aren't important, that their connection to the global all is not as sacred and needed as they like to think. That life will go on without them, so they fight doggedly to make sure that if another person can come in...
But we crowd a planet that's already too full. We waste its resources, recycle incorrectly its pieces, and harvest its life for our own. Disease, social and medicinal meanings, will soon plague us. What's to say cloning won't be, then, what saves us as a superhuman with super pathogens becomes the savior of the race?
That's what I was thinking, they'd slim down the case a bit, probably, to save on plastics and shipping. But, then, with the PS3 upgrade to the PS2 (the drive bay in the back) they may keep it the same size, just about, for 'upgradable' models and have a cheaper second line..
How do they determine the differences between a computer and a CD player? Is there some sort of drive information that is different, or is it simply some kind of feedback that they send that crashes the machine?
For instance, if it checks for something about reading text from the CD, that would crash quite a few Car Audio systems that pick up on CD titles. If it only sends feedback that would crash only a PC, then it's not really copy protection -- especially with products that create burned 'compilation' CDs. Do these get around the protection? If they do, then what's to stop someone from simply making a burned copy and then ripping from that?
Really, these guys just need to get a grip on the fact that people will always have digital music, one way or the other. I can just as easily hook a CD-ROM drive into the line-in of my sound card and pull through that as I can through the SPDIF cable.
Stop.. the rock.. can't stop the rock you can't. . .;)
People give far too much credit to one man, in my opinion. They are his observations, and are subjective to his logic and lines of thinking. Men are not infallible, and even Einstein is wrong on a few points -- there is no way he could have been completely correct on all points of the universe, for he is not the universe.
Cerulean Studios has an advantage. They are doing the working around, not the fixing of the workaround. It's much easier to find a hole than it is to fix it up so that nothing can pass through but what you want. What would be really smart on AOL's end is packaging in some keyset kind of thing into their clients, and then only letting in authenticating users -- but this would clear out the older clients that some people still to this day use. Trillian has the court advantage in that they can sync their client up to match exactly the syntax of an AIM program. It's harder to make it so that only AIM programs get in over a IP network.
The very fact that they haven't yet just tried an all out legal battle over this makes me more curious. Perhaps they may be thinking of trying to acquire ceruleanstudios, so that they could then offer a client with all the stuff -- and cut out a bigger competitor. They could package it with all the MSN / Y! / AIM clients (and a few others, if they work at it) and then they would be beating microsoft on the ad-based client.
D&D had its fine points. After all, it did make a good show of how bureaucratic magery can be, and what the difference between experience in battle (see big, badass, disarmed warrior against Tiny Thief Guy fight..) can do in a fight. Though, 7 High Level Mages all missing with their fireballs... I mean, you'd think they'd break out some unerring Magic Missiles or something.
The only -really good thing- is that we didn't 'explore his full potential' (like he turned out to be a sorceror or something along those lines instead of the 'wizard' type). And, well, the Dwarf was good coming relief ("...with some nice chin hairs to REALLY give you something to hold on to..."). It may not be entirely worth the money for the theatre, but it'll make a good renter.
Actually, Voltaire never said that. It was simply attributed to him as something he would've said, because he sounded like That Type Of Guy. Little known nugget of history.
--dwaggie ordinaire
Give me 100MBps or give me slow 10Mbps and lots of collision! (since most of my network -is- 100;)
I don't see how anyone could think home ethernet -isn't- standard. Or I'm more elite than I thought. And, well, I'm really not that elite.
The most painful wire in my network is the one that I have to use to tie in a computer we have in a downstairs living room. Positioned such that drilling through the ceiling/floor would be almost impossible (very front of the house) without some major wall revamping, I lead it down the stairs. Got to be very careful not to trip over it. Oi.;)
Well, really, to save their ass, they should log when data is transferred, but not where or how much, or what it is, for that matter. Sort of like how phone calls are recorded at the phone company, except this won't keep the destination, because that can easily saturate a log. (imagine the logs from multiplayer games where you contact other computers for peer.. or someone after one night of Gnutella.. yeeesh). On the flip side, they could always just keep track of things like user login/logoff, any server accesses they did locally (say, to DNS, mail, news, etc) which would do about the same.
Mmmm.. Berzerk. I've yet to see it in video form, but there are tons of places to *ahem* "acquire" it on the net, if you have broadband. It's worth it. And, of course, only subbed. It puts DBZ to shame only because this one has blood -- and his sword is -blunt-:)
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A lot of people are scared of cloning. That's pretty much what most of the comments I'm reading are. As I hold to no religion, and have such a lax view on government that I have trouble even looking at it with any sort of distaste, this makes it very easy for me to look more at the words of the people who are replying to this topic.
.. and, in that, maybe we find the true secret. People are afraid that they aren't important, that their connection to the global all is not as sacred and needed as they like to think. That life will go on without them, so they fight doggedly to make sure that if another person can come in ...
Cloning has great benefits, and great detriments. Look at automobiles, however. A technology that's been antiquated for, at the very least, 25 years, but we still use it daily, and it still clogs our atmospheres and causes a lot of other social trends that can be viewed as . . not-so-good. However, they're cheap to produce, reap great profits (fueling capitalism) and there are quite a few people out there who know quite a bit about them. The good with the bad, as it were.
This will seem a bad segue, but people are afraid of fantasy coming true. They're afraid of losing their identity, losing their sacred host as humans. After all, if humanity loses its sacred legacy of being only God-created, where will things such as religion be? They were, after all, created thousands of years ago, by people who were more often than not trying to either instill a set of morals to create a culture of happy, feeling ascetics, or ravaging savage hoardes who eventually needed a bigger fear than themselves to control their empires. They are afraid that once we begin to clone people, we'll forget that human is human, and begin to create a super race that's far superior to any homo-sapien, or that we'll begin to have duplicate 'us's running around. That would be the shows eXo-Squad and Bill and Ted's Bogus Adventure.
However, the problem lies in that people don't understand a lot of what will happen. There's no way, currently, to imprint a mind, so we can't transfer over memories or thought patterns. No worries there. We can't 'fast track' growth, so these embryos would still take quite awhile to grow, and then begin to learn. They couldn't replace us in any way, except some really faulty biometrics. But, then, people have been proving that the current biometrics systems are faulted. Scotch tape, after all, isn't that hard to get.
Then maybe there's the sentience angle. What's your first memory? I certainly don't remember any sperm against my egg. People who have memory regression can very rarely call up anything earlier than 2 years. Should a woman be shot because she has a miscarriage? Under certain views, after all, this could be considered an accidental homicide. There is no malice, but there is a definite killing of possibilities.
Of course, people bring up the point of 'what if that foetus was you?'. Would it matter? If you truly take a religious stance, what kind of God wouldn't allow a little recycling of souls to go about? Either that, or Heaven (and Hell, to be fair) will be synergistic. There's only say many ways a person can be different from another, after all, which means you'd have duplicate souls in the dietical planes. (Side thought: I wonder if it would work like DiabloII's anti-cheat. "A duplicate soul has been detected. Removing.")
We place too much of an importance on our 'self' identities. No one of us is too important to not be here. No one is the pinion of human hope and human life. They are all ingested in what is becoming a more global society. Mother Theresa, who was touted as one of the greatest, most giving people ever, slipped into what ever happens at death, and no one gave it too much mind. Sure, some did, but not terribly much. More was done for Princess Diana, as she sped away from reporters with a boyfriend. Why? Who's to say. Di was more human, maybe. There was more of a connection for these people to relate
But we crowd a planet that's already too full. We waste its resources, recycle incorrectly its pieces, and harvest its life for our own. Disease, social and medicinal meanings, will soon plague us. What's to say cloning won't be, then, what saves us as a superhuman with super pathogens becomes the savior of the race?
But, then, I digress and ramble.
That's what I was thinking, they'd slim down the case a bit, probably, to save on plastics and shipping. But, then, with the PS3 upgrade to the PS2 (the drive bay in the back) they may keep it the same size, just about, for 'upgradable' models and have a cheaper second line ..
The beauty of a 78$ million price tag? You only have to sell one ... ;)
How do they determine the differences between a computer and a CD player? Is there some sort of drive information that is different, or is it simply some kind of feedback that they send that crashes the machine?
.. the rock.. can't stop the rock you can't. . . ;)
For instance, if it checks for something about reading text from the CD, that would crash quite a few Car Audio systems that pick up on CD titles. If it only sends feedback that would crash only a PC, then it's not really copy protection -- especially with products that create burned 'compilation' CDs. Do these get around the protection? If they do, then what's to stop someone from simply making a burned copy and then ripping from that?
Really, these guys just need to get a grip on the fact that people will always have digital music, one way or the other. I can just as easily hook a CD-ROM drive into the line-in of my sound card and pull through that as I can through the SPDIF cable.
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People give far too much credit to one man, in my opinion. They are his observations, and are subjective to his logic and lines of thinking. Men are not infallible, and even Einstein is wrong on a few points -- there is no way he could have been completely correct on all points of the universe, for he is not the universe.
Cerulean Studios has an advantage. They are doing the working around, not the fixing of the workaround. It's much easier to find a hole than it is to fix it up so that nothing can pass through but what you want. What would be really smart on AOL's end is packaging in some keyset kind of thing into their clients, and then only letting in authenticating users -- but this would clear out the older clients that some people still to this day use. Trillian has the court advantage in that they can sync their client up to match exactly the syntax of an AIM program. It's harder to make it so that only AIM programs get in over a IP network.
The very fact that they haven't yet just tried an all out legal battle over this makes me more curious. Perhaps they may be thinking of trying to acquire ceruleanstudios, so that they could then offer a client with all the stuff -- and cut out a bigger competitor. They could package it with all the MSN / Y! / AIM clients (and a few others, if they work at it) and then they would be beating microsoft on the ad-based client.
But, then, I digress.
Three out of somewhere around 700 here, but I control all three.. And, before I had come here, there had been a rampant, unebbing 'non-Windows' ban...
It may not be much, but it's a start, right?
Considering HDTV is a standard, not a product that requires encryption.. no, they aren't going to get sued, and there wasn't any encryption to break.
I still like the AF's joke they did where they change all the server names, -that- was priceless.
D&D had its fine points. After all, it did make a good show of how bureaucratic magery can be, and what the difference between experience in battle (see big, badass, disarmed warrior against Tiny Thief Guy fight..) can do in a fight. Though, 7 High Level Mages all missing with their fireballs... I mean, you'd think they'd break out some unerring Magic Missiles or something. The only -really good thing- is that we didn't 'explore his full potential' (like he turned out to be a sorceror or something along those lines instead of the 'wizard' type). And, well, the Dwarf was good coming relief ("...with some nice chin hairs to REALLY give you something to hold on to..."). It may not be entirely worth the money for the theatre, but it'll make a good renter.
Actually, Voltaire never said that. It was simply attributed to him as something he would've said, because he sounded like That Type Of Guy. Little known nugget of history. --dwaggie ordinaire
Give me 100MBps or give me slow 10Mbps and lots of collision! (since most of my network -is- 100 ;)
I don't see how anyone could think home ethernet -isn't- standard. Or I'm more elite than I thought. And, well, I'm really not that elite.
The most painful wire in my network is the one that I have to use to tie in a computer we have in a downstairs living room. Positioned such that drilling through the ceiling/floor would be almost impossible (very front of the house) without some major wall revamping, I lead it down the stairs. Got to be very careful not to trip over it. Oi. ;)
Well, really, to save their ass, they should log when data is transferred, but not where or how much, or what it is, for that matter. Sort of like how phone calls are recorded at the phone company, except this won't keep the destination, because that can easily saturate a log. (imagine the logs from multiplayer games where you contact other computers for peer.. or someone after one night of Gnutella.. yeeesh). On the flip side, they could always just keep track of things like user login/logoff, any server accesses they did locally (say, to DNS, mail, news, etc) which would do about the same.
Mmmm.. Berzerk. I've yet to see it in video form, but there are tons of places to *ahem* "acquire" it on the net, if you have broadband. It's worth it. And, of course, only subbed. It puts DBZ to shame only because this one has blood -- and his sword is -blunt- :)
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