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Your Own Luxury Submarine!

cheapo writes "Not exactly computer related, but fun none-the-less. Someone on my boating mailing list turned me onto this website for your own personal luxury submarine. For a mere $78 million, you can make all the other folks at the marina jealous with a 213 foot toy." That 78 million dollar price tag might seem steep until you discover that it comes with its own docking mini sub. Now thats a bargain!

347 comments

  1. I think not... by MarvinIsANerd · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Does GPS work on board when it is submerged?

    1. Re:I think not... by Maj.+Kong · · Score: 4, Informative
      Does GPS work on board when it is submerged?


      Nope. Only ELF (extremely low frequency) signals can penetrate the murky depths.

      Subs take a GPS fix when they're surfaced or close enough to the surface to extend an antenna. In between fixes they rely on inertial navigation systems (and the quartermaster's grease pencil) to determine location.

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      Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
    2. Re:I think not... by CaptainStormfield · · Score: 1

      Even a few cm of water will effectively block GPS signals.

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    3. Re:I think not... by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 2
      While the brochure states that it can dive to 300 meters, GPS would be available to the boat on the surface and at shallow enough depths such that an antenna could be raised near the surface (deep enough to smooth out the ride during big sea states).

      4 days battery power at that depth is pretty damn cool, but with acrylic windows? Be afraid, be very afraid..

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    4. Re:I think not... by MarvinIsANerd · · Score: 1

      $78 million and no GPS? Forget it then. It's not like you can pull over and ask for directions down there. Gotta have my GPS.

    5. Re:I think not... by YouAreFatMan · · Score: 2
      Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

      Interesting story about that line. The original line was "Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff." But, apparently, due to the assassination of JFK, they changed the line. I haven't seen Dr. Strangelove since I found that out, but you are supposed to be able to tell that "Vegas" was dubbed over "Dallas".

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  2. Um... by PeeOnYou2 · · Score: 0

    The point would be??

    Hey let's go cruise the ocean! Alright!

    ....

  3. Gates needs it... by tinrobot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates should buy it so he can torpedo Larry Ellison's yacht.

    1. Re:Gates needs it... by arrow · · Score: 2

      A while back I caught an interesting titbit on personal submarines. Discovery, TLC, or one of thoes. Only reason I paid any notice to it was this: The manufacturer of the devices was boasting Steve Ballmer as one of their prominent clients.

      Makes sense given Microsoft employees houses monopolize most of the puget sound anyways.

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    2. Re:Gates needs it... by ekrout · · Score: 1

      He should get a monocle first ;-D

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    3. Re:Gates needs it... by sllort · · Score: 1

      The remaining Beatles should buy it and paint it yellow.

    4. Re:Gates needs it... by looseBits · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speaking of being torpedoed, the buyer should make the US navy aware of his purchase less the buyer be mistaken for a missile boat from a nation in the Axis of Evil.

      "Captian, we've got an unidentified contact bearing blah, blah, blah. PossibleChinese boomer"

      "Flood tubes one and two..."

      Etc.

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    5. Re:Gates needs it... by LadyLucky · · Score: 2
      No need. He's up against Team New Zealand.

      The australians tried it, their boat sank.

      Dennis Connor tried it, but well, he lost.

      Long live black magic.

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    6. Re:Gates needs it... by WowTIP · · Score: 1

      Since it isn't a military device, it will probably be very noisy, which probably would make the navy check out what it could be before torpedoing it. I guess they could probably identify it as "not that goddamn annoying u-cruiser again" on acoustic signature only.

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    7. Re:Gates needs it... by whanau · · Score: 2

      Preach it brother. Ellison is gonna learn that nz grit is more valuable than money

    8. Re:Gates needs it... by Chuqmystr · · Score: 1
      And the home video would be entitled...

      <drumroll>
      Hunt For Red Oracle
      </drumroll>

    9. Re:Gates needs it... by Zapper · · Score: 1

      sweeet.

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  4. fox or cbs should buy this by happyclam · · Score: 1

    You'd think that Fox or CBS or someone might buy this and trick it out with cameras etc. Imagine the coverage you could get of the America's Cup, imagine the new reality TV shows...

    $78 million is a pretty penny, though. At the going market price, you could buy over 30,000 acres of prime farm and orchard land in California's central valley.

    Huh.

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    1. Re:fox or cbs should buy this by JonWan · · Score: 1

      $78 million is a pretty penny, though. At the going market price, you could buy over 30,000 acres of prime farm and orchard land in California's central valley.

      Hell where I live you could buy the whole damn county. (not that anyone would want to)

    2. Re:fox or cbs should buy this by grunchman · · Score: 1

      what speed are the ships sailing at in the American Cup? i can imagine spending $78 million on a sub that will only get to film ten or twelve seconds of ships plowing by ;p~

      as for reality tv, i agree. get voted off of Big Brother and they shove you out the hatch. hey, even if they don't set the next series on a sub they should consider drowning all of the failed contestants. it would sure make it all a lot more dramatic.

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    3. Re:fox or cbs should buy this by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 2

      They're sailboats, so not very fast compared with a motorboat. Probably slower than this thing goes, or would go if it ever got built.

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  5. And the visions of torpedoes abound by Rosonowski · · Score: 3, Funny

    A3, F5

    You sunk my battleship!!

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    1. Re:And the visions of torpedoes abound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Best 4 out of 7?"

      "Damn right!"

  6. Well, thank goodness for /that/ by devphil · · Score: 5, Funny
    Given the significant waterplane area and ample internal volume, which allows for greater battery storage, the Phoenix will out-perform smaller counterparts in surface speed, submerged speed and submerged endurance.

    I can't express how embarassing it is to be lounging around the marina, get challenged to a submarine drag-race, and lose to some other 100-foot submersible because I didn't hook up enough batteries. Finally, with the Phoenix 1000, I'll never have to endure their laughter again!

    (Okay, okay, it's not funny... I'm just bored.)

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    1. Re:Well, thank goodness for /that/ by JippyJay · · Score: 1

      I can't express how embarassing it is to be lounging around the marina, get challenged to a submarine drag-race, and lose to some other 100-foot submersible because I didn't hook up enough batteries. Finally, with the Phoenix 1000, I'll never have to endure their laughter again!

      Hahahaha. "submarine drag-race" = hilarity.

      =-Jippy

    2. Re:Well, thank goodness for /that/ by Reziac · · Score: 2

      Just wait til I bring my Russian military sub, which I got for a paltry $10 mil, and SINK your luxury sub :)

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    3. Re:Well, thank goodness for /that/ by simonsd · · Score: 1

      But can you waterski behind it when it's submerged?

      Now that would be cool.

    4. Re:Well, thank goodness for /that/ by agallagh42 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an ex-military sub commander that wrote in to Car and Driver once. Apparently, if you run the main engine of a nuclear sub too fast while surfaced, it makes an enormous rooster tail at the back. He related his conversation with one of his officers:

      Commander: "Hey look, we're doin' a burnout!"
      Officer: "Yeah, we're layin' slickies."

      Funniest reader letter I ever read.

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  7. Slashvertisement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And there I was thinking it was an April Fool's joke. Well just for that, I'm keeping my 78 million.

  8. Wasn't this spammed everywhere? by dougmc · · Score: 2
    I seem to recall seeing this spammed everywhere in Usenet, like a year or so ago.

    Of course, the web site didn't say so in so many words, but at the time, not a single one had been built yet :)

    1. Re:Wasn't this spammed everywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well would you build them before you had a buyer? :)

    2. Re:Wasn't this spammed everywhere? by dougmc · · Score: 2
      I was wrong. It wasn't a year -- it was more like 4 years ago ...

      Go search on google for `personal luxury submarine' and you'll find around 423 ads ...

      Damn spammers!

  9. bath time by hexdcml · · Score: 0

    ahh, bath times will never be the same again..come to think of it, nor will fishing in a sub.. can u imagine one day, all the rich and famous will go underwater? its not a bad idea really, since underwater provides good privacy against the media.... just set your sonar for STUN Mr Spock... he he he.

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    1. Re:bath time by Com2Kid · · Score: 2

      Woohoo! Then all the poor public school Nerds using 486s (well hey the local H.S. just disposed of their 8086 lab 3 years ago so. . . . ) will be able to hack into the rich's sub-enviros and stop the oxygen supply!

      Oh yes, set the phasers on stun indeed!

      ::evil laugher::

  10. Hmmm... by sfrenchie · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure about the rest of you... but I can think of a WHOLE LOT of better things to buy/do with 78 Mil... How long do you suppose this company will stay a float? (no pun intended)

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by Wildcat+J · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hey, $78M is a drop in the bucket for this magnitude of surrogate penis!

      -J

    2. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no doubt. wait for the next $300 million powerball and buy up all of the tickets

    3. Re:Hmmm... by rapidweather · · Score: 1

      Go to Mobile Alabama and take a free tour of the Submarine there, the Drum, that saw service in the Pacific in WWII. It is in perfect shape, and really nice. That ought to do it. No need to go out and buy your own.

    4. Re:Hmmm... by worth · · Score: 1

      And the point of that would be, what?

    5. Re:Hmmm... by grunchman · · Score: 1

      come to the West Edmonton Mall in Alberta, Canada. there are more submarines there than in the Canadian navy.

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    6. Re:Hmmm... by RoguePsion · · Score: 0

      Yeah, is does cost a whole lot of money, but your own personal submarine! I can hardly think of anyhting cooler, other than your own personal space shuttle. Think of it, you could pretend that you were captain Nemo, exploring the ocean depths......

    7. Re:Hmmm... by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      Think of all the people you could scare if you had your own submarine!

      You could sneak up on a nice quiet beach... And surface. Then you could fire water-balloons at the beach-goers, and retreat back underwater before they could get to you.

      It looks like a boat when it's surfaced. You could pace another Yacht about 100yds to one side, then slowly submerge. They'd think it was sinking.

      You could line yourself up directly with a stopped boat like 15 feet in front of you, and slowly emerge, like a crocodile. Then go right back under.

      Personally, if it was me, I'd drive that thing where just the top of it was out of the water, but the rest was underwater. And I'd drive right under boats, like 10 feet down or something. I'd aim straight for them and submerge just before I hit them.

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    8. Re:Hmmm... by Rackemup · · Score: 2
      are you sure?

      we just got some "new" ones y'know, they're tied up at the halifax shipyard.

      dont know how much they cost though, maybe $78mil is a bargain.

  11. Your own submarine? Really...? by mindbullets · · Score: 1

    I bet ten bucks the guy who ordered it was a dot-com owner that went down the tubes...

    1. Re:Your own submarine? Really...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll bet you $78 million it wasn't!

  12. About time by Foxman98 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to be the founding member of the "Mile-low club"....

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    1. Re:About time by jmichaelg · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      You're too late to be a founding member....

    2. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're probably decades too late...

      Oh, you meant the heterosexual mile-low club...

    3. Re:About time by Alsee · · Score: 4, Informative

      I want to be the founding member of the "Mile-low club"

      Sorry, no can do.

      You need some serious hardware to reach that depth. The pressure is over a ton per square inch at a mile down. The specs on the website state 1000 feet for the main sub and 2000 feet for the mini-sub.

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    4. Re:About time by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hah, the thing won't dive lower than 1000 feet, anyway. Plus, it doesn't even have a deck gun. What kind of crappy submarine doesn't even have a deck gun?

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    5. Re:About time by kevcol · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. so maybe he should just wank off if it only goes to 1000 feet.

    6. Re:About time by MrNally · · Score: 1

      Too late.

      Let's just say that there are mines 2km (1.6 miles) deep in the ground, for example in Sudbury Ontario.

    7. Re:About time by ArsonPerBuilding · · Score: 1

      Silly, this is Slashdot, your supposed to mod your own machine gun onto the sub.

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    8. Re:About time by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Funny

      I want to be the founding member of the "Mile-low club"

      Sorry, no can do.

      It figures a fellow slashdotter doesn't understand the obvious reference to sexual conquest 20,000 leagues below sea level!

      You need some serious hardware to reach that depth.

      No pun intended?

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    9. Re:About time by DimitryP · · Score: 1

      submarines today do not have deck guns. deck guns were used back when submarines were designed like boats, to be submerged only when attacking. today's military subs are much more capable than subs from the deck gun era. instead of a deck gun, think "vertical launch Tomahawk cruise missile" and "50 knot torpedo." why expose your ship to surface fire?

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    10. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just do it under mount everest.

    11. Re:About time by Robber+Baron · · Score: 2

      I want to be the founding member of the "Mile-low club"....

      Yes but that would mean you would have to have sex with a human female and...well...this IS Slashdot.

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    12. Re:About time by binarybum · · Score: 1

      yeah, but with $78+ mil, I'd hope even a slashdotter could get a chick.

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    13. Re:About time by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      That sound you hear is your friends sniggering about your use of the singular. rj

    14. Re:About time by coding_ape · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dude, 20,000 leagues under the sea means that Nemo and crew traveled 60,000 miles while submerged, not that they dived that far, however impressive that would be.

    15. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhh, no, they travelled 20,000 leagues (60,000 miles) around the world. they were "under the sea" at the time.

    16. Re:About time by SkyLeach · · Score: 1

      When I joined the mile low club it actually relieved several tons of pressure per square foot.

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    17. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how do you get underneath mount everest?

    18. Re:About time by FreekyGeek · · Score: 1

      Hah, the thing won't dive lower than 1000 feet, anyway. Plus, it doesn't even have a deck gun. What kind of crappy submarine doesn't even have a deck gun? Oh, say, a Los Angeles class 688 nuclear Attack Sub? :)

  13. But wait.... by rabtech · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What OS does it run? Windows Datacenter or Linux?

    if (OS == Windows) { bash-it;} elseif (OS == Linux) { praise-it;}

    Plus, is it open-source? RMS needs to know whether this submarine should be boycott'd or not.

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  14. Steve Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I saw this on the discovery channel. Supposedly they are all custom made. Steve Jobs has one that will dock in his 200ft yacht, and a Japanese customer wanted one with a laser cannon mounted on it so he could shoot fish. Sounds like Dr. Evil!!

    1. Re:Steve Jobs by CaptainStormfield · · Score: 1

      Would an underwater laser cannon work? Are there wavelengths of light that (a) won't scatter under water, (b) can be generated by today's laster technology? (A gama ray laser might penetrate the water, but I don't believe that you can buy one of those to bolt onto the side of a sub).

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    2. Re:Steve Jobs by nemesisj · · Score: 1

      Not surprising, seeing as how one of these things is just under Job's personal salary of 82 million US dollars. Oops, sorry, 41 million in salary, 41 million in bonuses.

    3. Re:Steve Jobs by haggar · · Score: 1

      A laser cannon mounted on the side of your personal submarine, so you can shoot fish??? Can you get any more dickless than that!?

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    4. Re:Steve Jobs by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      Just the ozone layer scatters gammas pretty well, so no high freq EM wave propogates well in water. Low freq does ok, but they can't carry any meaningful power load. Water is a very, very bad medium for energy weapons.

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    5. Re:Steve Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very low frequencies and visible frequencies propagate pretty well through water, but nothing else reasonable does.

    6. Re:Steve Jobs by seann · · Score: 1

      yeah I remember that episode of gundam wing where he started up his energy weapon under water and started taking out the picaes's like there was no tomorrow. Or the day after.

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    7. Re:Steve Jobs by rmohr02 · · Score: 1

      Ahh, the Alan Parsons Project is back. Watch out for Mr. Bigglesworth.

  15. Signifigant Transport Device? by fliplap · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As proposed, the submarine would constitute the single largest private undersea vehicle ever built, and arguably, the most significant personal transportation device of the 20th century.

    Besides say...oh...THE AIRPLANE?

    The problem with this statement is actually 2 fold, there's no way a personal luxury sub is the most signifigant personal trasport device of the 20th century. On top of that fact, the thing hasn't been built yet, so it should be of the 21st century. And considering the 20th century brought us the modern automobile, the airplane, and the space shuttle, I highly doubt that anyone would call anything the most signifigant anything of the century...only 2 years into it.

    1. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm... it says PERSONAL transportation device.

    2. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by zmooc · · Score: 1

      Then I say PRIVATE jet.

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    3. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about you, but i've seen personal airplane and cars. On the other hand, I've never seen any 1 person, or even 2 person (assuming thats what you mean your large lettering) 65 meter transportation devices

    4. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by lost+in+place · · Score: 1

      As proposed, the submarine would constitute the single largest private undersea vehicle ever built, and arguably, the most significant personal transportation device of the 20th century.

      Besides say...oh...THE AIRPLANE?

      Nah, besides THE SEGWAY!
      Which revolutionized personal transportation sometime last month.

    5. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by cheese_wallet · · Score: 1

      "On top of that fact, the thing hasn't been built yet, so it should be of the 21st century"

      I'm pretty sure submarines were invented in the 20th century.

    6. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 2
      I'm pretty sure submarines were invented in the 20th century.

      By which you mean 19th.

    7. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By which you mean 18th...

      The submarine named the turtle was in use in 1776.

    8. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by fliplap · · Score: 2

      Do you every get tired of being wrong? Lets first start with the quote from the site, they were refering to that particular submarine. And second, the submarine was NOT invented in the 20th century, the submarine was invented in 1624 by a man named Cornelius van Drebbel. However, Leonardo da Vinci drew out the basic concept of a submarine over one hundred years before. Drebbel, a Dutch inventor and engineer employed by the British navy constructed a leather- covered rowboat from which oars protruded through watertight seals. Drubbel's ship could stay underwater for a few hours. Please research your claims.

    9. Re:Signifigant Transport Device? by bluGill · · Score: 2

      I don't know, the wright brothers were flying in 1904. Henry Ford started a automobile company about the same time. (not the ford company of today, this one went out of buisness) Both heavier than air flight, and automobiles were known in the 1800s, but they were not useful. (In the case of ariplanes they were only about to get a few yards before crashing, cars were not faster than a horse, and much less reliable)

      I think they had submarines in the 1800s too, but again, nothing useful.

  16. Interesting factoid. by Apuleius · · Score: 3, Informative

    One of the measures of how dangerous a device
    is is the amount of time from the second
    you fsck up to the moment it's too late
    to save you. By that measure, subs are more
    dangerous than the space shuttles.
    Thought I'd share.

    1. Re:Interesting factoid. by Casca · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So defibrulators must be pretty darn dangerous.

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    2. Re:Interesting factoid. by susano_otter · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You might want to qualify that. Remeber Challenger? The time from "catastrophic O-ring failure" to "tragic loss of life" was pretty damn short. I'd imagine you'd have more time than that to save your ass if a submarine bulkhead failed.

      I suppose you meant that once in orbit the space shuttle crew has more time from fuckup to fucked than does the crew of a submerged ocean-going vessel.

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    3. Re:Interesting factoid. by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      Heh, same thing in a sub. If your ballast tanks go, you're fucked. Also, at 1000 feet, the pressure is high enough to crush a human, bones and all. Yes, we have divers that go that deep, but they wear special pressure suits so that they don't implode. Though I'd imagine our seafaring technology has improved to the point where we can safely have a sub underwater (1000 feet isn't even that deep.)

      And for $76 million, it BETTER have a support contract. ;)

    4. Re:Interesting factoid. by Chairboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of note, during the initial two and a half minutes of SRB boost, there is no method of aborting the flight or taking actions to save yourself (such as bailing out, etc).

      For instance, if 30 seconds after launch or so (when the shuttle passes Max-Q) the Hydrazine tank in the nose ruptures and begins to fill the shuttle with toxic fumes or fire, the crew would not be able to do anything until two minutes later when the SRBs seperated. During this time, they could die, even as they stared at flames burning towards them over a period of a minute or two.

      Additionally, if one of the high pressure SSMEs (the main engines) ruptured explosively during boost, shearing the retaining frame that holds the orbiter to the external tank, the tank would detach improperly, potentially knocking the shuttle into the airstream where, like with the Challenger, the aerodynamic forces would tear it apart. This could happen within less then a second, so once again, your analogy is in error.

    5. Re:Interesting factoid. by Vikki_R. · · Score: 1
      And for $76 million, it BETTER have a support contract. ;)

      Do you mean support contract, or life insurance policy? In the submarine business, I don't think there's much difference between the two. ;)

    6. Re:Interesting factoid. by Usquebaugh · · Score: 2

      I liked the idea of flying beneath the waves, have a bouyant craft that is driven down. http://www.deepflight.com/

      Of course if the hull goes your still dead, but it removes the need for tanks to trim bouancy.

    7. Re:Interesting factoid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to qualify that. Remeber Challenger? The time from "catastrophic O-ring failure" to "tragic loss of life" was pretty damn short. I'd imagine you'd have more time than that to save your ass if a submarine bulkhead failed.

      true. i did recently learn, however, that the challenger's crew compartment remained intact and that the crew was alive until the moment it hit the ocean. this was on tv - history channel i suppose.

      you can also read about how nasa engineers anticipated the challenger disaster because the o-rings had a failure rate that correlated with low temperatures. the challenger launch was the coldest on record by far, but the engineers failed to present the information to management in a digestible manner. this is in tufte.

      totally off-topic of course, but informative nonetheless.

    8. Re:Interesting factoid. by Usquebaugh · · Score: 2

      Going deep is far more dangerous than going high.

      If a sub loses a bulkhead it means that the hull has failed and that you are either going to get crushed to death, suffocate because the sub will not reach the surface or freeze to death due to the lack of heat.

      Below a very shallow depth, 180ft?, you have virtually no chance of surviving the ascent to the surface without the sub. There is no option to bail out. Before the 1950s I don't beleive there was a way top exit the submarine underwater, the pressure means all the hatches could be unlocked and would never open. Nowadays they flood the exit chamber to equalise presuure.

      A fire in a sub uses all the oxygen you need to breathe, and there's no windows to let the smoke out. Plus heat will weaken the hull, not good at depth.

      The real killer is as the original poster said the lack of time to react, a hull breach at depth will usually finish the sub in seconds. No chance to radio Houston and discuss your options.

      I have always thought we rushed into space before we had explored our planet, I don't want to colonise Mars before we colonise the oceans.

    9. Re:Interesting factoid. by Fesh · · Score: 2
      Hmm. So the reason they rotate into an inverted position (and that the main engines are canted in that funny angle) is so that the external tank can provide an aerodynamic dead area? That thought had never even occured to me before...

      Huh. *ponders*

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      Kill -9 'em all, let root@localhost sort 'em out.
    10. Re:Interesting factoid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They rotate to an inverted position so the crew deals with positive G loads as the ship curves into its climb to orbit. Its initial orbit is upside down.

    11. Re:Interesting factoid. by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      The O-ring failed on the launch pad. The shuttle didn't blow up until a couple of minutes later.

    12. Re:Interesting factoid. by bnitsua · · Score: 1

      That is why you install a screendoor on a submarine.

    13. Re:Interesting factoid. by ksb · · Score: 1

      Hmm, whilst the shuttle, boosters and feul tank were totally destroyed in seconds, the crew cabin remained intact, and took 6 minutes to fall to earth and it is strongly believed (inc by NASA) that all the astronauts survived the explosion but died on impact with the ocean.

      By comparison... sub at 1000 feet, chink, crack, bunkle, squish!

    14. Re:Interesting factoid. by onepoint · · Score: 1

      >>took 6 minutes to fall to earth

      I think it was 2.8 Minutes. Worst part about it was as you said, they were alive inside. Just saw it on discovery last month and they spoke on the design and how everyone was sure that they survived till impact. Also is way they won't release the tapes of the conversation for that last few minutes of there lives, Must be a scary ride.

      ONEPOINT

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      if you see me, smile and say hello.
    15. Re:Interesting factoid. by ClickNMix · · Score: 1
      Below a very shallow depth, 180ft?, you have virtually no chance of surviving the ascent to the surface without the sub.

      Wouldnt the fact you have a 'mini' sub (That apparently goes deeper then the main vassel) help in this fact... That is, if in between the time it takes you to notice your about to die, and the point you actually do, you have time to make it there.

      At least trying that would give you something constructive to do in your last moments alive ?

      --
      I saw the light at the end of the tunnel... But it was just someone with a flashlight bringing more work.
    16. Re:Interesting factoid. by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 2
      The Shuttle's main engines are canted at "that funny angle" so the thrust vector is through the center of mass of the combined stack, otherwise the Shuttle's thrust would tend to pitch it 'down'.

      What's interesting to me is that the SRB thrust is about equal to the mass of the external tank and fuel, so the Shuttle's engines are lifting it and the payload, while the SRB's are lifting the fuel. The Russian's design is simpler and in some ways better.

      --
      If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
  17. about that mini-sub by vrmlguy · · Score: 2
    price tag might seem steep until you discover that it comes with its own docking mini sub

    Err, actually, it comes with a place where you could dock another mini-sub. The mini-sub itself would be an after-market add-on.

    --
    Nothing for 6-digit uids?
    1. Re:about that mini-sub by nathanm · · Score: 2
      Err, actually, it comes with a place where you could dock another mini-sub. The mini-sub itself would be an after-market add-on.
      Moot point. Someone that can afford one of these subs probably has enough in spare change to buy the mini-sub.
    2. Re:about that mini-sub by hidden · · Score: 1

      then how is it that they manage to give so many specifics about said mini-sub?

      they offer options too, but I got the feeling that SOMETHING was part of the estimated price...

  18. old news by Casca · · Score: 1

    Its been in the Neiman Marcus catalog for a while.

    Check out this google link:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=neiman+marcus +submarine

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    Casca
    1. Re:old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The Neiman Marcus version looks shorter - evidently built for the mail order market.

      ...oh come on! Could you really see the UPS guy delivering the larger one in his van?

  19. Does it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    come in yellow?

  20. pheonix? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    how come its not called the nautulis (sp)?

    phoenix is a fiery bird... this is a _sub_

    1. Re:pheonix? by glwtta · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't by the Nautilus submarine until at least version 1.04 - everything earlier never goes above .5 knots (surface, or submerged).

      --
      sic transit gloria mundi
    2. Re:pheonix? by Brummund · · Score: 1

      Nautilus? What? Name a sub after a file manager? Hell no.

      :)

      (What impressed me was the following:
      "The aft portion of the saloon has a largea crylic window, providing a view astern that also acts as a large hydraulically operated hatch. A small automobile could be kept in thea ft section if desired." Wow.)

    3. Re:pheonix? by DimitryP · · Score: 1

      the idea of a car in the back is interesting, but you would need one of those car/boats because, well, cars have negative buoyancy, and so they sink. on the other hand, it would be pretty cool to keep a small speedboat in there (james bond, anyone?)

      --
      Guns are like umbrellas and condoms. Better to have one and not need it, than need it and not have one.
    4. Re:pheonix? by ibbey · · Score: 2

      Nah, just get a '70s vw bug. Everyone knows that they float!

    5. Re:pheonix? by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      On their website they have a smaller sub called the nautilis (I think, my brain is failing after a very long week at work....)

      --
      Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
    6. Re:pheonix? by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      Nope. Phoenix is a bird that is reborn from its ashes every hundred or so years. The rest (most) of the time it's not fiery.
      Unless you ar thinking about G-Force ;)

  21. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did they even make one yet? I didn't see any real photo of one.

    Maybe they are just waiting for the sucker with the 78 million bucks to start building one.

  22. clientele by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their customers are probably all Columbian.

  23. Personal Subs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hello my slashdot friends, this is Junis from Afghanistan. I would like to thank all of you for pitching in your money and buying me my new Vic-20. I have upgraded the memory from 5K to 8K and now it is even more powerful. I will install Linux on it and then I will be powerful.

    I will now ask you to send Mr. Katz's new dog book. After I read it I will shed a tear.
    Thank you.


    Junis from Afghanistan

  24. flammable? by krs-one · · Score: 1

    From the Additional Instrumentation Section:

    "Flammable Gas Monitor" Just what I need, a gas monitor that catches on fire. Will go along nicely with the F16 Style Joystick.

    -Vic

  25. uhh by nomadic · · Score: 2

    Oh man I am just having waves of covetousness washing over me. How can anyone have the money yet NOT buy this thing?

  26. All Well and Good... by Wildcat+J · · Score: 1
    This just goes to show you, there are some people with too damn much money. While the idea of owning your own submarine may tickle the Jacques Cousteau fancy in all of us, a $78M U-boat hardly constitutes a personal luxury vehicle. I'm sticking to the plastic submarine in the bath tub, thank-you-very-much.

    At any rate, I don't think it will gain mass acceptance until teenage poseurs can put phat rims, big chrome tips, clear lights and "Type-R" stickers on it. Not to mention installing the "Trunk of Funk".

    -J

  27. Deja vu all over again by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 2, Informative

    copyright 1997-2002, U.S. Submarines, Inc. All rights reserved. All wrongs revenged!

    Last update: January 9, 2002


    Why does this seem like old news? Because it is!

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    In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  28. Portholes by fava · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have trouble beleiving that those large portholes (aprox 6' dia) depicted on the interior view can handle the 1000' rated depth. Total pressure is almost about 1.8 million lbs.

    Thats a lot for any transparent material, I don't have my engineering texts at work, anyone care to calculate what the stresses involved would be.

    1. Re:Portholes by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      450 PSI.

      I'd also like to point out that the Trieste had a porthole, and it went to the bottom of the Marianas trench... Of course, it was a lot smaller porthole.

      --
      Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
    2. Re:Portholes by lizardboy · · Score: 1

      The guys how build this have a day job. They build the mini subs that are all acrylic bubbles. Their mini sub is rated for 2000 - 4000 ft. They use one of them to explore Crater lake in Oregan that is 2000ish feet deep. So they know how to make acrylic bubbles and dome ports.

      lizard boy

    3. Re:Portholes by mediahacker · · Score: 1
      About 400 Pounds/SqIn or so ( give or take a couple )

      You could probably get away with it but heaven help you if you crash the tea cart into it - start with a small stress and bye bye...

    4. Re:Portholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, one item of design note would be that it's triple-paned. The outside is a dual-layered acrylic while the inside has it's own. The design doesn't show it properly, but that is how it is protected from small fractures by ID10Ts.

    5. Re:Portholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scotty, gimme some of that Transparent Aluminum!

  29. Oh great. by e1en0r · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have enough trouble avoiding all the rich folk in their massive SUVs and now we have to watch out for them in submarines too? All those fishermen better keep an eye out for a submarine with a "My child is Citizen of the Month" bumper sticker on it.

    1. Re:Oh great. by shobadobs · · Score: 1

      On the topic of bumper stickers, I'd like to say that I've gotten very annoyed by the ones bragging about the driver's kids. It's gotten worse in recent years. I used to see "My child is an honors student at Russell Elementary School." Now some of them say "My child is a VERY GOOD STUDENT at Russell Elementary School." Wtf is up with that? They might as well get a bumper sticker that says, "My child ISN'T an honors student at Russell Elementary School." Of course, I'm being a bit cruel towards the "very good students." However, if a kid is "Citizen of the Month," at least that's an accomplishment to be proud of. I think.

      On a more serious matter, it might be a good idea for schools to also give out bumper stickers for parents of the gangsta-wanna-bee and crackhead students in high schools. There would be bumper stickers that say, "My child is a DEGENERATE at Sometown High School." Mailing these out might just splash some reality into the adoring parents' eyes.

    2. Re:Oh great. by Silver+Rose · · Score: 1

      Well, off-topic as it may be... You'd be surprised at how tiny an accomplishment "citizen of the month" is. At my elementary school, there was a concerted effort to make sure that each student got a ver similar award at least once... even the ones who bit and pulled hair...

    3. Re:Oh great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was always under the impression that the "Student of the Month" was a way to make all the kids feel special, regardless of grades or ability. It seems like something people would do these days. Heaven forbid little Joe Moron get excluded from feeling special in school just because he eats paste and can't write his name.

    4. Re:Oh great. by Vikki_R. · · Score: 1
      On the topic of bumper stickers, I'd like to say that I've gotten very annoyed by the ones bragging about the driver's kids. It's gotten worse in recent years. On a more serious matter, it might be a good idea for schools to also give out bumper stickers for parents of the gangsta-wanna-bee and crackhead students in high schools.

      Actually, when I was in middle school a few (3) years ago, one of the parents who drove their kids to school had a bumper sticker that said "My kid beat up your honor student". Now that really showed what that kid was learning at home...

      So, obviously, some of the parents of these degenerate kids know what the kids are like and *don't care*-- in fact, they seem to encourage them!

      The best I can figure is, their rationale must be "well, it's better for Junior to be a criminalistic punk than a nerd". [sarcasm] Oh, yeah, *much* better![/sarcasm] One's a dead end, one's not. I don't know what's so bad about being a nerd-- I'm one, always been one, and I'm damn proud of it, too!!

      Whew, ok, sorry, just had to get that out of my system... between what I was working on in algebra class today and that comment about the bumperstickers, I was having flashbacks to public school. And the only way to get over it is to rant. I'm ok now. :\

      But I still don't know what's so bad about being a nerd-- as I said, I'm one, always been one, and I'm still damn proud of it, too!! *grin*

    5. Re:Oh great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wtf is up with that? They might as well get a bumper sticker that says, "My child ISN'T an honors student at Russell Elementary School."

      yes...it all goes back to the judeo-christian ethic of praising and loving absolutely everything regardless of worth. disclaimer: i read nietzsche last night.

      "My child is a DEGENERATE at Sometown High School." Mailing these out might just splash some reality into the adoring parents' eyes.

      turn on foxnews. some school district started mailing out letters to the parents of FAT KIDS.

    6. Re:Oh great. by Suppafly · · Score: 1


      Actually, when I was in middle school a few (3) years ago, one of the parents who drove their kids to school had a bumper sticker that said "My kid beat up your honor student". Now that really showed what that kid was learning at home...

      So, obviously, some of the parents of these degenerate kids know what the kids are like and *don't care*-- in fact, they seem to encourage them!


      No, some people just have a sense of humor.

    7. Re:Oh great. by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      There's a popular one hereabouts that says "My kid can beat up your honor student." rj

    8. Re:Oh great. by flink · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, the best one is the one that says "I sell meth to your honors student"

    9. Re:Oh great. by shobadobs · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the fat boy letters sort of gave me that idea. :-)

  30. Neato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get Roy Scheider to pilot it and yer all set. How much more is the talking dolphin?

  31. Underwater habitat... by Aniquel · · Score: 1

    Much cooler are the underwate 1-atmosphere habitats... air, power, (and net access) from land, a tunnel to get to your new underwater house.

  32. Hagbard Celine by SWroclawski · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's right, for only 78 million you too can pretend to be the leader of the Discordians.

    Green apples not included.

    - Serge

    1. Re:Hagbard Celine by GypC · · Score: 2

      heheh. The only reason I clicked on this article was to find the Celine reference. Thanks Serge.

    2. Re:Hagbard Celine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh heh, yep that's why I read the posts

  33. some problems by oo7tushar · · Score: 5, Funny

    there's a lot of problems associated with being underwater...

    First off, there's a limited range where you could use it.

    Second: You'd have to make sure you didn't collide with anything (I'm sure you'd hire a formet sub captain or something).

    Third: it's not all that clear underwater. It's only clear in the shallow areas like tropical and what not. But in the deeper areas it's not all that clear and so you wouldn't see much.

    Fourth: the upkeep on submarines runs millions a year, so the cost is gigantic.

    Now the pros:
    First: you can bring illicit drugs into the country and nobody is gonna stop you (how do you stop a submarine without blowing it up?) and if they do stop you, then you just flush the stuff down the drain.

    Second: It's the mile deep club.

    Finally: If the submarines a rocking don't come a knocking

    1. Re:some problems by CaptainStormfield · · Score: 1

      how do you stop a submarine without blowing it up?

      Why stop the sub? Wait until it surfaces and arrest those inside.

      --
      "The dinosaurs died because they didn't have a space program." - Niven
    2. Re:some problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main sub never needs to stop. It just drives around on a luxury cruise while the new modified 'stealth' minisub delivers the drugs and returns in a matter of minutes.

    3. Re:some problems by oo7tushar · · Score: 1

      You can't convict people on suspicion. You can arrest them, but arresting a high profile person/rich person on suspicion is suicide to a career.
      You'd actually have to find narcotics in sufficient quantities to make them face jail time or a fine.

    4. Re:some problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > First off, there's a limited range where you could use it.

      ? Because?..what limits are you thinking of? It goes 600 natical miles submerged (6 hours @ 10kts), and *much* farther on the surface.

      > Second: You'd have to make sure you didn't collide with anything (I'm sure you'd hire a formet sub captain or something).

      Read the specs page; it comes with active sonar.

    5. Re:some problems by RoguePsion · · Score: 0

      Second: You'd have to make sure you didn't collide with anything (I'm sure you'd hire a formet sub captain or something)

      If you check the specs of the sub, it does have an active sonar array, so the chances of a random collision would be low (provided you knew how to work it)

    6. Re:some problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fourth: the upkeep on submarines runs millions a year, so the cost is gigantic.

      I doubt that's a problem. Luxury yachts of that size run upwards of $25 million at the cheapest and the people who buy them already spend millions on upkeeping them a year. It's certainly nothing new. If you can sacrifice the money to purchase a multi million dollar piece of equipment for fun, the price of upkeep really doesn't matter.

    7. Re:some problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fourth: the upkeep on submarines runs millions a year, so the cost is gigantic.

      Keep in mind: that cost includes the standard govt contractor mark-up. Those $200 hammers don't grow on trees, ya know.

    8. Re:some problems by oo7tushar · · Score: 1

      keep in mind that the bottom of a boat isn't the same as water around an entire boat...

    9. Re:some problems by MarvinIsANerd · · Score: 1

      Second: It's the mile deep club.

      There is no way that this sub can go a mile deep - it would implode from all the water pressure way before it reaches that depth. In fact, with those huge bubble windows it wouldn't be able to go very deep at all.

    10. Re:some problems by jonnythan · · Score: 1

      *sigh* I hate when people think the government bought hammers for $200.

      The reason that existed is because of lazy accounting techniques. The government contractor would make a large order for parts from a distributor of some sort. Instead of getting itemized lists charging for every screw, bolt, hammer, etc, they totaled the entire cost and gave each item the same cost. So, large sheets of metal, diamond studded power saws, cranes, and - yes - hammers would all get the same price of $250 or whatever just to make it easier on the accountants.

    11. Re:some problems by armb · · Score: 2

      > First: you can bring illicit drugs into the country and nobody is gonna stop you (how do you stop a submarine without blowing it up?)

      You get the Navy to drop a warning depth charge. It if doesn't surface, you forget about the "without blowing it up" bit for the next charge.

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    12. Re:some problems by bluGill · · Score: 2

      That $200 hammer would cost you $200 at your local hardware store if they carried it. It was ment to be used in an explosive enviorment, so it had to be made of special (non-sparking) meterials. I'm sure non-reactive was also a requirement.

      sure You can buy a hammerfor $5 at home depot, but professionals won't buy that cheap model, they pay $20 for the best. And that is for working outside where there are not dangerious gas mixtures to worry about. If I had to use a hammer when the atmosphere was explosive I'd want a hammer that was safe in that enviorment.

      Can anyone verify any of the 3 claims given? I think it is well accepted that the goverment paid far more than home depot prices for a hammer at one time. However why seems to be in doupt, and the normal urban legends sites and google didn't turn anything up.

  34. vaporware submarines by dpilot · · Score: 2

    But if you read between the lines, you'll find that at least some of these submarines have never been built. I guess they don't want to keep them around the showroom.

    I first came across this site several years ago, from a pointer at www.memepool.com

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    1. Re:vaporware submarines by $carab · · Score: 2

      Domain name registration: 30 dollars

      Adobe PageMill Mac Edition: 40 dollars

      Cost of Product they're trying to sell you: 78 Million dollars

      Getting /.ed: priceless

    2. Re:vaporware submarines by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 2

      Yeah, this totally reminds me of the guys who were trying to build their own floating country in the Caribbean. This is not as farfetched, but still probably vaporware.

      --
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  35. Will spooks buy these? by thogard · · Score: 2

    Since the CIA keeps having problems that the coast gard keeps messing up their "drugs for guns" program, I wonder how many they will buy just to keep ahead of their competition.

  36. Great for the drug trade! by dachshund · · Score: 1

    Now they don't have to build their own anymore!

  37. Where's capt. Nemo? by MarcoJROM · · Score: 1

    I always wondered where they retired the 20,000 leagues under the sea ride from Disney World.

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    "It was penguin lust...at its worst." --someone
  38. But... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

    Can it take out an LNG tanker that's set on destroying New York City?

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    Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
    1. Re:But... by Darby · · Score: 1

      Can it take out an LNG tanker that's set on destroying New York City?

      Is this a Dirk Pitt reference?

    2. Re:But... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1
      But... Can it take out an LNG tanker that's set on destroying New York City?

      Or a Japanese whaling ship that's decimating an endangered species?

      Bonus points if it can do both at the same time.

    3. Re:But... by Equinox · · Score: 1

      I believe it is...

    4. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Patchouli Reeking Hippie.

    5. Re:But... by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Yeah. I think it's from Valhalla Rising.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    6. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hasn't clive managed to kill off Dirk yet?

  39. and it's so sturdy... by Roadmaster · · Score: 2

    it gracefully handles the slashdot effect. 15 minutes after the story was posted, the site is still responding snappily. If the sub business doesn't work, they can seek work as webmasters. Or maybe they WERE webmasters before the bust?

  40. Let me make sure I understand this... by owlmeat · · Score: 1

    They expect some very rich fart to shell out 78Meg USD for an untested submarine design? Here's a free clue - submarines are not the most safe mode of tranportation. Lots of energy in those batteries and lots of water looking to get in at 300 meters depth. I'll bet it will stay on the drawering board for awhile.

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    They stab it with their steely knives,

    But they just can't kill the beast.

    1. Re:Let me make sure I understand this... by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 0

      I guess the US/Russian/Whoever else's navy's are in a helluva lot of trouble using nuclear reactors in subs, then?

      Damn sight more energy in those than the batteries this thing uses, that's for sure.

  41. A great practical joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It would be a great practical joke-boat. You know, get all yer friends on it, don't tell 'em it's a sub, then "oh no! we're sinking!" they'd be laughing about it for months.

  42. Ship Design Issues by Mittermeyer · · Score: 1

    I think anyone who buys from these guys has to be nuts. Submarines are precision machines where the tolerances for failure have to be in the space launch range of darn near zero. I would trust Woods Hole contractors or military sub contractors but not cutesy minisub guys.

    Even that one aside, the operation of the sub would probably get ruined by the average non-understanding of the filthy rich person who bought it. "Whaddya mean I can't put my baby grand piano here in the lounge and ruin the balance of the ship? It's my sub, put it in!" Bloop.

    And once it bloops, who is going to rescue your sad rich ass?

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    1. Re:Ship Design Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And once it bloops, who is going to rescue your sad rich ass?

      Depending on the owner, wouldn't that be a good thing? Imagine Gates and Balmer each getting one and insisting that Windows be used for the control system. BSOD -> bloop -> geek world rejoices.

  43. sweet! by Lag+Master · · Score: 2, Funny

    hotbox the mini-sub!

  44. Your Own Linux Submarine? by NachtVorst · · Score: 1

    When I firsted glanced the headline, I swear I saw "Your Own Linux Submarine?"... Shouldn't that be a GNU/Linux submarine anyway?
    It made me laugh enough to read the article, even though it's not a Linux submarine... This is a pretty cool toy, it even has an F-16 Style Joystick! But I agree it needs some torpedoes to be a True Submarine(r)...

    *Wanders of singing: "We all live in a Linux submarine, a Linux submarine, GNU/Linux submarine..."*

  45. 16 knots/hr? by XorNand · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Phoenix is capable of making trans-Atlantic crossings at 16 knots yet can dive along the route and explore the continental margins of some of the most fascinating waters on earth.

    :: punching calculator buttons :: hmmm... Gee, anyone want to take a nice leisurely, eleven and a half day cruise, scrapping along the bottom of the ocean, in a diesel powered tin can?
    --
    Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
    1. Re:16 knots/hr? by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2
      Gee, anyone want to take a nice leisurely, eleven and a half day cruise, scrapping along the bottom of the ocean, in a diesel powered tin can?

      Yep. Sign me up--it'd be a great vacation. The sort of person this sort of thing is aimed at has the time and leisure to take life easy and enjoy the little things.

      Heck, it'd be worth it to be able to avoid storms alone. Add in the ability to observe marine life and it should be a lot of fun.

  46. Quick! Somebody give Kentucky a call! by UsonianAutomatic · · Score: 5, Funny
  47. yawn. by dorker · · Score: 0

    That link is sooo 1997.

  48. Its a fraud but does not lie about viewports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The mini sub goes to 2000 feet they claim.

    They cleverly avoid reference to any figure for submerge depth of the mother ship itself.

    I bet it can go 150 feet at most.

    If they lose the 6 to 5 foot round plastic view ports (they say acrylic themselves)... then maybe they might get to 300 feet with this baby but they might need to over pressurize it dramatically.

    The site is a sham for a fraud company.

    April fools I wish.

    Some rich guy is gonna lose his money.

    1. Re:Its a fraud but does not lie about viewports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually they dont avoid a submerge depth, they state it's 305m. Now it may very well be a fraud, but just follow the link to the specs and you'll see it

    2. Re:Its a fraud but does not lie about viewports by Mike+Markley · · Score: 1

      > They cleverly avoid reference to any figure for submerge depth of the mother ship itself.

      Here's a fancy idea: read the freaking page. Under the specs you'll see:
      Operating Depth 305 meters

      Just a smidge over 1000ft.

  49. Implications? by Rew190 · · Score: 1

    Well it's a nice push towards reaching the coveted negative mile high club membership...

  50. I've always wanted.. by RetroGeek · · Score: 1

    to yell "Dive, Dive, Dive" and have something happen.

    Well, other than Pam, um, er, never mind....

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  51. used subs by frankmu · · Score: 1

    if you can't afford the luxo-sub, you could get yourself a used sub instead, and put some ikea furniture in it. http://www.ussubs.com/T-subs_folder/t-sub.used.htm l

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    Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
  52. As the saying goes.. by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

    A fool and his money are soon parted. this time it's a cool 78 mil at a time

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    If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
    1. Re:As the saying goes.. by doooras · · Score: 2

      if i had $78 million to blow on this thing, i wouldn't mind being called a fool.

  53. Too small by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2

    If it doesn't have a Casino and a Health Club on board, I don't want it.

    -me

    --
    Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
    1. Re:Too small by Kirruth · · Score: 1

      Damn straight. I also need a launch pad on the deck for my personal VTOL jet.

      --
      "Well, put a stake in my heart and drag me into sunlight."
  54. Um...I beg to differ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "As proposed, the submarine would constitute the single largest private undersea vehicle ever built, and arguably, the most significant personal transportation device of the 20th century."

    WTF? What about the car?

    Besides, the submarine is sooo
    18th century.

  55. That's nothing by lkaos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just get 9 of your rich fellow executives together and you can purchase your very own DD(x) Land Attack Destroyer.

    Comes complete with 5-inch/62 extended range guided munitions and 155mm Howitzers, land attack missiles and of course, Tactical Tomahawk missiles.

    No need to worry about the wife catching you fishing with your buddies either as it use stealth technology to give it almost no radar signature.

    By the way, this ship has a fully robotic mini-sub to allow scouting in unfriendly water ways.

    With a price tag of $750 million, they are just as affordable as these silly luxury 'subs.' Besides, you know what they say about submarine people don't ya?

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  56. Very impressive Herr Blofeld! by hedley · · Score: 1


    I keep thinking the Farside with the nightmare of Jaques Cousteau's cat. (cat looking anxious staring out of a porthole in a submarine).

  57. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering that selection on most subs are burly sailors named Hans...the mile low club is something that I could do without.

  58. Inflation!! Used to be much less. by caduguid · · Score: 2

    Am I the only one who remembers back when you could be the "proud commander of your own POLARIS SUB -- the most powerful weapon in the world!" for only $6.98 ??

  59. It's a Scam by TechnoGrl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's a scam. There are engineering and metelurgical reasons why subs have he shapes that they have. The large portal windows seals for one thing wouldn't stand the pressure at the depth the sub claims to go.

    One clue to the scam is that there is no actual sub just "artist's conceptions". Another is that for someone seling a 78 million dollar product, their website design is amateurish.

    Gotta love the internet though...the web of a million lies...

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    ----- In Your Cubicle No One Can Hear You Scream...
    1. Re:It's a Scam by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      Actualy, there are many deep subs with large portals. The trieste ha small ones. This sub only goes to 900 feet. You could have very large windows on it.

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    2. Re:It's a Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the fucking website you halfwit troll.
      The portholes arn't even windows, they're PART OF THE HULL.

      wtf is the reason for the parent being modded up?

  60. can someone explain to me why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Quantum Leap is classified as sci-fi? If the show didn't use 'futuristic' techno gadgets by Al, and instead used a palm pilot would it still be sci-fi? Does the time travel aspect alone make it sci-fi, even though the show is really about this or that problem that is solved?

    Oh well... time for more beer I guess... damn these bar browsers

    1. Re:can someone explain to me why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does the time travel aspect alone make it sci-fi

      yes.

      artificially intelligent hologram doesn't hurt either.

  61. Oooh! by Anus+Bird+Girl · · Score: 1

    It's long, hard, and full of seamen.

    I want one!

    (!)

  62. needs torpedos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it would only be cool if i could launch torpedos!

  63. Submarine Operation Rules/Standards by slugfro · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Does anyone know if there are Rules or Standards for the operation of submarines for recreational purposes. Potential hazards I can imagine...
    • Someone getting sunk in their personal sub because they were mistaken for a enemy military sub.
    • Someone surfacing into the bottom of a surface ship.
    • Getting rammed by a surface ship while surfaced becuase they have such a small above water profile that they are not seen by a ship operator.
    • etc...
    I know I won't be buying my personal sub until I know these issues are resolved! ;-)
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    -- Find the Truth...
    1. Re:Submarine Operation Rules/Standards by evil_one · · Score: 2

      Well, military subs tend to have rather good sonar, so just play the hampster dance. They'll know then that it's not piloted by any self-respecting military captain.

      --
      Desperation is a stinky cologne
  64. It has got me thinking... by red_gnom · · Score: 1

    Smuggling drugs, weapons and even nukes never has been easier.

  65. Now I can become a James Bond arch-villian! by SIGFPE · · Score: 2

    I've always wondered where those arch-villains get their gear like luxury underwater bases and industrial installations in the middle of volcanoes. Well now I know. And at $78,000,000 I'm just going to have to turn to a life of crime. Maybe I'll become an accountant.

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    -- SIGFPE
    1. Re:Now I can become a James Bond arch-villian! by rlp · · Score: 2

      $78 million PLUS the cost of the cat and the monocle.

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    2. Re:Now I can become a James Bond arch-villian! by SIGFPE · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the bikinis for the harem arch-villains always seem to have.

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      -- SIGFPE
  66. Seems a bit steep by kaimiike1970 · · Score: 1

    When you can get a personal sub for around $750k.

    This place makes all kinds of subs.

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    Do a google search before posting.
  67. Dang by jamesmartinluther · · Score: 1

    I will have to nix my plans to build a double-decker luxury executive bus to take me to work.

  68. Kentucky's getting one by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2
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  69. Yikes! by ArcticChicken · · Score: 1

    "The interior space, with the noted absence of structural bulkheads, provides for tremendous versatility in interior layout and space planning."

    Why do I imagine a conversation like this in their engineering department:

    Who needs those structural bulkheads anyway? Seawater can't be all that heavy.

    *shudder*

  70. where's the marketing department? by sfjoe · · Score: 1

    You'd think if they were trying to hit the hoi-polloi up for 78 extra large, they would try to make their website look like something other than a sixth-grade computer club project.

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  71. web site? by negativethirsty · · Score: 1

    sub, $78 million, web hosting, $15/month, adobe page mill $95.00, getting /.'d , priceless.

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    thirsty*i^2

    "Ya I finished that last week, it just doesn't work"
    1. Re:web site? by doooras · · Score: 2

      page mill my ass, with that kind of quality they must have used netscrape composer

    2. Re:web site? by negativethirsty · · Score: 1

      nope, pagemill. "META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Adobe PageMill 3.0 Mac"

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      thirsty*i^2

      "Ya I finished that last week, it just doesn't work"
    3. Re:web site? by doooras · · Score: 2

      oh.

      whoops.

  72. Re:16 knots? by stipe42 · · Score: 1

    a knot is a unit of speed not distance.
    16 knots, not 16 knots/hour

    stipe42

  73. "Original Client" by phiz9 · · Score: 1

    MC Hammer.

  74. I am Captain Nemo! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1

    I will show you sights you have never dreamed of, and take you to the Mysterious Island. If you try to escape I will kill you.

  75. CowboyNeal by jimbolaya · · Score: 1

    CowboyNeal has already made his plans for what to do with the subscription money.

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    There ain't no rules here; we're trying to accomplish something.

  76. Oh, goody! by Vikki_R. · · Score: 1
    It only costs a "mere 78 million dollars"! Guess what's going to be on my birthday/christmas list this year? (Right below that Cray supercomputer I've been asking for all these years...)

    Just think, I'll finally be able to do something about those obnoxious, irritating jetskiers... "jetskiing tourist at one o'clock! Battle stations! Man the torpedoes! Fire!... Yay, another one bites the dust!" You don't know what hell is until you've been woken up at 8:00 AM (after being up till 2 AM with insomnia) by some stupid tourist on a jetski buzzing up and down the Intercoastal Waterway. *And* those jetskiers also like riding in the surf; so when I'd walk across the street to the beach to go swimming, I had to be careful I didn't get my head chopped off.

    So this is the perfect gift! I want one.

    1. Re:Oh, goody! by Anonynnous+Coward · · Score: 1
      Battle stations! Man the torpedoes! Fire!.

      Minor nit. You don't say "Fire" on a submarine unless there's something burning. The command to launch a torpedo is "Shoot."

  77. Having visions by rho · · Score: 2

    This thing needs a pipe organ. I can just see James Mason playing Bach's "Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor" in the gallery.

    Just need Kirk Douglas looking young again, and it'd be perfect.

    --
    Potato chips are a by-yourself food.
  78. Somebody tell Kentucky! They WANT one.. by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Some things you can't make up. From the Kentucky Legislature site.. "Encourage the purchase of a submarine to patrol the waters of the Commonwealth and search and destroy all casino riverboats".

    You can see it at the Kentucky Legislature site HR 256 Maybe they can take the casino high rollers for rides in it after destroying the casino riverboats.

  79. Re:Portholes (Not so bad) by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 2

    It's not so bad. Figure 2e6 lbf acting on the thing, and a 6" thick window to take up the strain. That's about 1.5 kpsi overall stress inside the window, plus a bit for imperfections in the construction. Add some safety margin and you can figure on around 5 kpsi of stress.

    I'm not sure the strength of their window material but Kevlar can be made clear and has a strength of around 250 kpsi.

  80. 78 Million? by DaedalusLogic · · Score: 1

    For 78 Million I want Sean Connery to present me the keys in the uniform he wore for Hunt for Red October... He IS the captain of a russian submarine right? Or come to think of it... this is something a James Bond villain should own... wonder if I'd get someone named Pussy Galore to hang around me if I owned one. You know what would be almost as cool... a miniature pirate ship that shoots water balloons... I'm in Friday mode now...

  81. better deal by negativethirsty · · Score: 1

    Juliette would have been a better deal. As posted here, it was only a cool mission on ebay. Besides, you'll always win the "my sub can kick you sub's ass" contest.

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    thirsty*i^2

    "Ya I finished that last week, it just doesn't work"
    1. Re:better deal by negativethirsty · · Score: 1

      mission = million. dam, negative karma

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  82. My favorite item from their FAQ page by ckd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have some Luxury Submarine FAQs that people may find interesting. My favorite:

    What type of people buy luxury submarines?

    Interested buyers tend to share one trait, they are all wealthy.

    My comment: well, yeah, people living paycheck to paycheck generally don't buy $78 million dollar items.

  83. a new tv show based on this by nilstar · · Score: 2

    How about a TV reality show with 5 people trapped in a little submarine! No way to get away from those hidden cams. Imagine the ratings! :)

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    ===> An eye for an eye makes everyone blind - MG
  84. I guess you'd call this a... by cutecub · · Score: 1


    Wet Dream Boat?

  85. I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Bill Gates' kids whining at Christmas time. Daaaad! No more socks! I waaannnt one of those thingabajinerrrrs...

  86. Can you make it nuclear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to stay under for years at a time, and only come up for food, thanks.

  87. Re: Your Own Luxury Submarine! by rmohr02 · · Score: 1

    "We all live in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine..."

  88. wouldnt cut it... by martissimo · · Score: 1

    Thoose crazy Kentucky lawmakers need full armaments to take down any well protected floatin casino, and they certainly cant be expected to compete for naval supremacy of the Ohio River without at least a few ballistic missile tubes!

  89. Have you heard about the Apple iSub? by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 5, Funny


    Apple iSub. Sink different.

  90. There's an important piont you're missing here... by nochops · · Score: 1

    Taco's on a boating mailing list?

    You mean he actually ventures outside? I can just pictire it now: sans-a-belt short and Sperry top-siders!

    With all of the flagrant spelling and proofreading errors, I sure hope he doesn't make any flagrant boating errors.

    Ahoy, Matey!

    --
    "A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn't have an air force." -William Blum
  91. Hopefully..... by ath0mic · · Score: 1

    ... they build submarines better than they do websites.

  92. Re:There's an important piont you're missing here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, the person who submitted the story ('cheapo')is on the mailing list, not Taco.

  93. ROFLMAO! by nathanm · · Score: 2

    That has to be the funniest bill I've ever read. The Kentucky legislature has quite a sense of humor!

    1. Re:ROFLMAO! by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      That has to be the funniest bill I've ever read. The Kentucky legislature has quite a sense of humor!

      What do you mean, "sense of humor?"

      That bill is dead serious.

      --

      "And like that ... he's gone."
    2. Re:ROFLMAO! by dvdeug · · Score: 2

      That bill is dead serious.

      See
      http://www.snopes2.com/legal/kentucky.htm.

      In short, it's not a bill, it's a resolution (so passing it wouldn't mean anything if it were passed), and the legislature didn't take it seriously. Don't you think there would be just a wee bit of a problem if Kentucky actually started sinking riverboats? (Think about stuff like Federal control over interstate commerce and due process of law before killing someone or destroying their property.)

  94. Does it come with an Instruction Manual? by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 2

    Even if it does who is going to read it?

    ** CREAK **
    Wife: (Gathers Manual) Dear it says right here not to exceed 10,000 Feet or the...

    Captain: That's just what they say, I know this baby can take a few more thousand feet, I paid 75+ Mill for this baby, besides it's pretty down here...

    Wife: I can't see a thing...

    Captain: Look harder... Anyway not to worry... remember Crimson Tide they went like 13,000 ... ** CRUNCH SPLASH **

    The only Warning labels people listen to is Dry Cleaning Only labels...

    --
    "It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
  95. Yeah by sielwolf · · Score: 1

    But where will I park that in my missle silo?

    --
    What is music when you despise all sound?
  96. That is just SUCH a bad idea... by peacefinder · · Score: 1

    On the bright side, it will rapidly deplete the population of people with WAY more money than sense. Mile deep club indeed!

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    With reasonable men I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter. -- William Lloyd
  97. There ain't no one-upmanship in yachting... by aquarian · · Score: 2

    ...and this is just one more example.

  98. Toy? definately not by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

    Anyone here whos a survivalist, knows that having a submarine can help you escape pretty much any situation

    nuclear war, flood, etc etc

    I'd love to have a submarine just so that if there was a situation where we were at war with say, China, I can take me and my family into the submarine.

    Think of it like a bomb shelter which can move around, not to mention submarines also allow you to travel, its like your own private jet just under water.

    Last, submarines allow you to explore the ocean,
    I'd love to have one

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    1. Re:Toy? definately not by Anonymous+Cow · · Score: 1

      What about a tsunami? Would it just pass you by, or would you be ripped to shreds?

  99. A S. American country was doing this by TheAlabamaKid · · Score: 1

    I read a news story a while back that a S. American country had hired Russians to design themselves a primitive submarine to smuggle drugs.

    1. Re:A S. American country was doing this by istartedi · · Score: 2

      This was widely reported. They didn't finish this one, but who knows what else they have?

      --
      For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  100. Hey if i were a billionare by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

    I'd buy a submarine, connect it to my bomb shelter, and connect that to the basement of my mansion

    IF its a flood or any kinda bad situation, you have a way to escape.

    Thats why a submarine would be cool, a submarine is alot more useful than a yacht and people waste their money on that

    i think 70 million is too expensive for a submarine though.

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    1. Re:Hey if i were a billionare by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      Would you also have an army of similarly dressed henchmen?

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  101. Kallisti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do believe you mean golden apples, eh?

    Hail Eris, i sinked it!

  102. News Falsh: Man lands on moon by nullard · · Score: 1

    I first visited this site in 1996. How is this news?

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  103. Ellison wans it. . . by Brendor · · Score: 1

    Are you sure it isn't the other way around Tin Robot?

  104. Help Me Get it! by litewoheat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ok everyone, buy a copy or two of my software and help me become so rich that I can afford such a thing. OK? Yeah lets do it! Everyone that buys 100 copies or more gets a free ride.

  105. Doubt it by nuggz · · Score: 2

    he Phoenix is capable of making trans-Atlantic crossings at 16 knots

    That is really slow. Why would anyone buy a bot that goes twice walking speed.

    1. Re:Doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i am pretty sure that 16 knots is close to about 20 miles an hours, i walk a little slower than 10 miles an hour

    2. Re:Doubt it by icejai · · Score: 1
      That is really slow. Why would anyone buy a bot that goes twice walking speed.


      Because you can't walk on water.
    3. Re:Doubt it by rtaylor · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm impressed. I don't know of anyone capable of walking nine miles in an hour -- they exist, but are pretty rare.

      That said, these boats have about the same speed as a dolphin or penguin.

      http://www.seaworld.org/Physics/key.html

      --
      Rod Taylor
    4. Re:Doubt it by daviddennis · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Most boat buyers, as it happens.

      It costs serious bucks in fuel and maintenance costs to get a 200-odd foot object the size of a modest mansion up to, say, 30mph. There are a few that do it, but, again, costs are fantastic.

      The 143' Octopussy is one of the more famous yachts capable of this kind of speed. According to this page, she has a cruising speed (optimal efficiency) of 22knots, which is about 25mph. At this dizzying speed, she burns up 343 US gallons of diesel per hour. So if you bought your diesel at the bulk rate of around $1/gallon, each hour of operation would cost $343. If you're going to cruise at that speed for a day, we're talking about $8,232 a day. Charter cost is $90,000 per week on season.

      If you look at the picture on the link, you will note that the Octopussy is not level; it's actually moving over the surface of the water. This means a less comfortable ride, and it also means everything you own is pretty much continuously at an angle. Slower yachts glide through the water at lower speeds and are generally more comfortable.

      I know someone who chartered his 120' yacht on an informal basis for $45,000 per week with all expenses included. If my memory serves, his yacht could go about 15 knots, or about the same as the submarine. That should give you an idea of how much speed costs, and why truly fast yachts are relatively rare.

      You have to have - literally! - money to burn to run one of those things.

      D

  106. Drug dealers subs by shird · · Score: 2, Funny

    As proposed, the submarine would constitute the single largest private undersea vehicle ever built

    Does that include all the submarines built by the drug dealers that people don't know about? I remember there was once an article about a bust of a drug ring building their own submarine, I think it may have been in Russia. Several have also been sold to drug dealers around the world. $78mil could be a worthwhile investment if I can manage to shift enough 'goods' without being picked up by the coast guard.

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  107. Hmm.. by Streuner · · Score: 0

    ...I'd like that one in gold, please, and where can I change my name to Hagbard?

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  108. B Movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else see this and think that it would make a great B-Movie possibly starring Kurt Russel ?

  109. This isn't news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who hasn't known about this site for years?

  110. Didn't want to compete with Dean Kamen by nucal · · Score: 2

    I'll bet that they thought there would be one of these in a bubble by the 21st century...

  111. My mistake by Apuleius · · Score: 2

    I indeed meant once in orbit.

  112. Wait no longer! by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't by the Nautilus submarine until at least version 1.04 - everything earlier never goes above .5 knots (surface, or submerged).
    tux% dpkg -l nautilus
    Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hol d
    | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed- config/Half-installed
    |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
    ||/ Name Version Description

    ii nautilus 1.0.6-4 file manager and graphical shell
    Hmmm... the lameness filter seems to think some of the characters I tried to paste are 'junk'.

    Well, fuck the lameness filter. You know, I'm getting really tired of Slashdot telling me that I'm 'lame'. Isn't that what moderation is supposed to do? That and it complaining when I take 12 seconds to respond to a post because I type too quickly.
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    1. Re:Wait no longer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post is lame, lamer. The filter spotted you a mile away.

      Go outside and get some sunlight for god's sake...code jokes aren't funny after the first 10 posts.

  113. A significant personal transportation device? by trenton · · Score: 2
    From the site:
    As proposed, the submarine would constitute the single largest private undersea vehicle ever built, and arguably, the most significant personal transportation device of the 20th century.
    I think you'll find a lot of people willing to argue that. Personally, I think, oh, the aircraft was kinda good.
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    1. Re:A significant personal transportation device? by satterth · · Score: 1

      I know for sure i wouldn't want to be in an undersea aircraft... Thats for damn sure.

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  114. If $78 million is a little much..... by icejai · · Score: 1
    .... get the Seattle 1000 for as little as $19.7 million.

    Subsequently we would sign a manufacturing contract that would require a 10% initial payment followed by four 20% payments made at easily verifiable milestones in the construction process with the final 10% on delivery. The price of the Seattle 1000 is $19.7 million. Construction time would be 24 months.


    Sure it's half as small, but it's 1/4th the cost.
  115. Your Own Luxury Submarine! by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    I gotta quit hanging out here and/or get more sleep. The first time around, I read that headline as:

    Your Own Linux Submarine!

    1. Re:Your Own Luxury Submarine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll get to work hacking it and GPL the blueprints :)

  116. i think its real by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if you download their pdf file you will see some pics of some of their smaller subs.

    As far as the largest one it seem they have not made it yet.

    The reason they kind of hide their picuters of submarines, is because the actual boats look kind of ugly.

    They are made to look like an yacht when surfaced, but the part thats underwater looks like a tube and breaks the continuity.

    When they draw pictures they cheat, so they draw the bottom to look like the bottom of an yacht with large windows.

  117. Directory Browsing enabled? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.ussubs.com/Luxury_folder/

    If they were as good of buncha webmasters as Roadmaster said, they probably wouldn't have let this slide.

  118. To quote Will Smith from Men in Black.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I GOT to get me one of these!

  119. Re:Tsunami? by polymath69 · · Score: 1
    Extrapolating here... I believe that in the middle of the ocean, a tsunami would look like a noticable wave (say one foot high). So, that is, noticable only in an otherwise calm sea, and appearing to come out of nowhere.

    Submerged, I doubt it would even be noticable.

    Tsunamis don't take on their great height until they "climb" onto the continental shelf. So disregard what I just said, if you're not far enough out to sea when one runs across you. What would happen then?

    Let's see. If you're submerged, you'd probably feel a noticable current. If surfaced, you'd be bounced around quite a lot. But so long as you have your doors closed, this being a submarine, you're probably as easy to sink as a cork.

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  120. The Ultimate Yacht Tender by kindbud · · Score: 2

    A turbine-powered helicopter is no longer the ultimate accoutrement to a superyacht.

    Damn! I just had it painted to look like Airwolf!!

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    Edith Keeler Must Die
  121. Re:16 knots? by styrotech · · Score: 1

    yeah 16 nautical miles per hour per hour is pretty crappy acceleration.

    Hopefully the brakes are a bit more effective ;-)

  122. Question by dmarx · · Score: 1

    Does it come in yellow?

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  123. Re:16 knots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > a knot is a unit of speed not distance. 16 knots, not 16 knots/hour

    For the uninformed: one knot == one nautical mile per hour. Wouldn't be a very useful unit of speed w/o some implied measure of distance included, would it?

  124. Move along folks, nothing to see... by waimate · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Whether the windows would work or not, they're quite useless.

    Visibility underwater is such that you'd need to be very close to something to see it at all. Coral reefs with fish and stuff, and you'd want to be within 20 feet, more likely 10. There's simply no way you can manoever a 200 ft vessel to within an irregularly shaped reef. Not a surface ship, and certainly not a submarine.

    For deeper stuff, you're going to need some seriously powerful white lights. Water filters out the higher frequency light first, so all your reds start disappearing after about 60 feet. For wrecks and stuff, you'll need a huge bank of lateral spotlights (not shown on artists impression because artist didn't take physics), and still be unable to get close enough to see anything.

    With sufficient lighting, you may be able to go to depth and see some really nice mud.

    Me - I'd buy 7 trips to orbit instead.

  125. I believe the portholes are intgegral to the hull by kindbud · · Score: 2

    The pressure hull is constructed of cylindrical sections of transparent structural acrylic - Lucite is the tradename, I think - about 8" thick. The portholes are made where the outer hull has porthole-shaped cut-outs to expose the lucite and create a window. The outer hull is shaped to give the cylindrical pressure hull better hydrodynamics.

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  126. Cool, just like the Illuminatus Trilogy! by Ifni · · Score: 1

    Now I can commission my own private sub and become my own sovereign nation. Then I'd just have to find that hidden cave that connects Loch Ness to the ocean, and I'd be ready for a life of altered conciousness!

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  127. Oh, JAMES! by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 2


    Honestly, whoever gets this one is a single step away from James Bond villany...

  128. What? by dr_dank · · Score: 1

    The site has no One-Click-Checkout&#169 ? I'd better put my Mastercard away...

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  129. just some Marine FYI by 1337+$14X0r · · Score: 2, Informative

    Having worked at a Florida Marina for 4 years, I can tell you that yachts require a ridiculous amount of maintenance to keep them in working order. I am rather skeptical of this vessel, here's why.

    First, there's the issue of bottom paint. An untreated hull in saltwater will be covered in drag-producing algae in a matter of weeks. Most bottom paints slow this considerably, but they still need to be re-painted at least once a year. More permanent paints are available outside the US, as they contain several environmentally detrimental chemicals. All this leaves me to imagine that those portals are going to be one royal pain in the ass to keep clear and clean.

    Next, there's the issue of prolonged saltwater contact. Surface yachts must be sprayed down after every outing, or every week at the dock. Otherwise, the salt spray alone is enough to destroy any metalwork on the boat. As if salt spray wasn't enough, this boat will be saturated from all angles.

    Now there's maintenance. Those outside the marine industry have no idea of the amount of work needed to keep boats running smoothly. You can't just leave it tied up at a dock - there is near-daily engine maintenance (markedly higher due to saltwater contact), external cleaning, interior maintenance, etc. Now, if this much effort is required to keep a much simpler surface yacht afloat and in shape, I can't imagine what this thing requires. Furthermore, the idea of a crew of only 3 on any yacht over 200' is absurd. It takes that many just to tie the damn thing up, nevermind who's driving it.

    Finally, the price. I'm sure this will make a great novelty for some rich person, but that rich person could have bought over 1000 feet worth of brand new motoryachts or sportfishers with that kind of money.

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  130. 20,000 leagues? by RoguePsion · · Score: 0

    You do realise that 20000 leagues below sea level would be getting damn close to the center of the Earth, right?

    1. Re:20,000 leagues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      20,00 leagues and Journey to the center of the earth were sequels.

      Thank You,
      TheAnonymousCoward

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    2. Re:20,000 leagues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realise that 20000 leagues below sea level would be getting damn close to the center of the Earth, right?
      No, it would be damn far from the surface of the world. 20000 leagues below sea level ~= 20,000 miles above China.
      (20,000 leagues = 28,000 miles around earth, divide by pi to get earth's diameter, subtract diameter to see how high you end up on the other side.)

  131. uh oh by cybercuzco · · Score: 2
    Operating Depth 305 meters


    But my watch is only good to 100m. Damn you timex!

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  132. Safety in bad weather? by second+class+skygod · · Score: 1

    Call me a scaredy-cat but the first thing I thought of when I saw this was protection from bad weather. The one time I did some ocean sailing we got stormed on a lot. It scared the hell out of me. If you got caught by a bad storm with one of these you could dive and sit until it passed.

    If I read the specs right, it can operate submerged for 360 hours while traveling 240 miles at a max depth of nearly 1000'. It seems to me like that would let you avoid nearly any storm.

    Sure it's expensive but if you've got the dough, the safety alone might be worth it (assuming it works reliably when submerged). Of course, the coolness factor makes it even more worth it.

    On the other hand, it reminds me of the old movie "Operation Petticoat". I'll never forget the scene where there taking the seriously damaged (then refurbished) sub out for a shake-down cruise. Paraprhasing:

    Captain: "Will she dive Chief?"
    Cheif: "Like a rock sir!"

    SCSG

  133. Re: Sorry, no can do by UberQwerty · · Score: 2

    "I want to be the founding member of the "Mile-low club"

    Sorry, no can do.

    You need some serious hardware to reach that depth. The pressure is over a ton per square inch at a mile down. The specs on the website state 1000 feet for the main sub and 2000 feet for the mini-sub.


    Okay, so it is difficult, but under this argument it is still possible to do. You just need to invent the right equipment.

    The REAL reason you can't be the founding member of the mile-low club is I already am :)

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  134. Beowulf Cluster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But does it run on a beowulf cluster?

  135. Insurance? by proteinaceous · · Score: 1

    I wonder what the response would be if I asked my insurance company for a quote to insure a submarine...

  136. your own submarine? frightening..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who used to work in a shipyard that made submarines (I was a test & commission engineer) the idea that a someone without the in depth training, experience and sense could buy this is just horrendious....

    Diving a boat is no walk in the park, to a skilled
    submariner its something that has to be done with care and thought, this is one way to end up dead very quickly.

    1. Re:your own submarine? frightening..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as an ex submariner (quartermaster) diving the boat isnt that hard .. its getting her back up thats rough :-)) any bonehead can open the main ballast tank valves and say AHHHH but not many understand how seriously hard it is to STOP the descent

  137. Re:just some Marine FYI crew of 3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    loony...loony...loony, i built the damn things for armed navies....hrrmm might be ideal for cocaine smugglers....

    however.....for a boat of this size I'd want to see a crew of 10 odd, something like 3 x 3 man watches, while dived.....

    regards,

    Thing

  138. in Canada, only million or so bucks by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 1

    There's a cool Russian sub here in Canada, if you live on the west coast and want to check it out.

    Go to the New Westminster Quay, or you can phone: 520-1073 if you need directions.

    I seem to recall that the owner bought it for a million (was it one or two million?) from the Russian Navy. Pretty sweet deal.. sparse accomodations, no great window seats, but well worth it :O)

  139. Damn, I wish I had a mod point for this. by traphicone · · Score: 1

    I laughed my ass off.

  140. Most significant personal transportation device by ubeans · · Score: 1


    As proposed, the submarine would constitute the single largest private undersea vehicle ever built, and arguably, the most significant personal transportation device of the 20th century.


    Oh, I thought this was the 21st century.

  141. Not primitive by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    heh, there was nothing primitive about what they were doing. They were building the same kind of state of the art subs the Russian military uses for nukes. Except instaid of warheads, it was going to carry smack. Lots and lots of smack.

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  142. just wait!! by fishbonz · · Score: 1

    once my dot com business takes off I will have one of these bad boys
    you just wait and see!!
    me and my dot com babes will be subin' in style!
    then i will make a beowolf cluster of them and score big karma from /.
    you just wait and see!!

  143. This is where I have to call Bullshit... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 2

    on the whole idea. Not to you but to the makers of this thing.

    You need some serious hardware to reach that depth. The pressure is over a ton per square inch at a mile down. The specs on the website state 1000 feet for the main sub and 2000 feet for the mini-sub.

    From the article: The significant volume, coupled with very large acrylic viewports...

    Stop right there. Any idea what the external pressure on those "large acrylic viewports" is going to be??? At 1000 ft, we are looking at about 30 atmospheres! That's 30 times the normal atmospheric pressure of 14.7 psi! At over 400 psi (that's over 30 tons per square foot!) those "large acrylic viewports" are going to pop like giant bubblewrap!

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    1. Re:This is where I have to call Bullshit... by agallagh42 · · Score: 1

      You know, there's no rule that says acrylic has to be 1/4" thick. Most mini subs that can go far beyond 1000' deep have acrylic spheres as their main hull. Make it a foot or two thick, and it can handle a surprising amount of pressure.

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  144. No you idiot by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Italics are from ther person who submitted the story, undecorated text is from the editor who put it on the page. Why is it so fucking hard for people to figure this out???

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  145. safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    In the 14 year operating history of the industry there has never been a single serious injury or fatality to any passenger.

    keyword: serious

    matt

  146. As An Ex Submarine Quartermaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    this has GOT to be the dumbest thing i have ever seen.. who in thier right mind would believe this after seeing the drawing with the damn holes in the side.. and the only people who would be qualified to actually run the thing wouldnt be caught dead ON it much less stupid enough to actually believe some RICH guy is smart enough to survive in a submarine he bought ... HOLES INSTALLED....

  147. room for music I hope by potnoodle · · Score: 2, Funny

    how much is the Captain Nemo pipe organ option ?

  148. Larry's Yatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking of $27 million ships.. Why does Larry Ellison have a yatch named Izanami? It spells Im a Nazi backwards, and cost him a cool $25M. (Saw it myself on the SF bay... butt ugly too!)

    1. Re:Larry's Yatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm, it's the name of a Shinto goddess (of the Underworld)... on the other hand, Ellison wants to create a national ID database, perhaps on an even grander scale than what IBM did in the 1940s. Now with new technology, rather than an ugly tatoo, the New America (under our selected President Bush) can do the Nazis one better with subdermal electronic ID chips.

  149. Every has said this but...... by jsimon12 · · Score: 2

    My god, that is freaking totally AWESOME, and it operates at almost 1000feet too boot.

  150. Just the first time? by sanity_slipping · · Score: 1
    Your own Linux submarine!

    That's how I read it the first, second, and third times, how I read it aloud to a visiting friend and what I thought I was clicking on.

    Remember the Navy Smartships running NT? I thought someone was finally smart enough to do a similar thing with a submarine running Linux!

    "Software glitches resulted in system failures and crippled ship operations, according to Navy officials."

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  151. Fart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were to be at the bottom of the ocean and cut some cheese, would a bubble eventually come to the surface? I know at the bottom of the ocean you would die from lack of oxygen and a billion pounds of water on you, but I'm just curious.

  152. I'd Rather.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...buy nearly four trips to space at $20 million a piece.

  153. boring by fabiolrs · · Score: 1

    This sub is boring!

    i prefer this one!

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  154. Heh by dwaggie · · Score: 1

    The beauty of a 78$ million price tag? You only have to sell one ... ;)

  155. Submarine Races by uberdave · · Score: 1

    Submarine races, eh? Is that what you told your folks?

  156. runner by raelitycheckbounced · · Score: 1
    Now I can get my drug running buisness back in action with one of those babies

    "First you get the drugs, then you get the women..."

  157. Lame as fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was turned in as an interesting site 2.5 YEARS ago. What the fuck makes it so interesting today? Assholes. You rejected it then, trolling for material?

  158. Re:some problems (with your math) by Storm+Damage · · Score: 1

    6 x 10 = 60.

    Of course, if you're willing to slow down a bit, it'll run 50 hours at 5 kts (250 nauticle miles), or 140 hours at 2.5 kts (350). Still not a bad range, and the surface range (3500 nauticle miles), is plenty for a transatlantic cruise. Nothing in the rules saying you gotta spend all your time underwater.

  159. Those acrylic windows... by Storm+Damage · · Score: 1

    ...are over 8" thick. They're probably more durable than steel.

    1. Re:Those acrylic windows... by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 2

      Look at pictures of naval submarines. Notice how the high strength steel tends to push inward on the substructure over time? The elasticity is used to take up some of the strain. Acrylic lacks this feature and is more likely to develop cracks leading to either regular replacement or catastrophic failure.

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    2. Re:Those acrylic windows... by BLAG-blast · · Score: 2
      Look at pictures of naval submarines. Notice how the high strength steel tends to push inward on the substructure over time?

      I think you'll find that the dents come from hitting fishing boats (and the odd depth charge).

      The elasticity is used to take up some of the strain. Acrylic lacks this feature and is more likely to develop cracks leading to either regular replacement or catastrophic failure.

      The replacement schedule for Acrylic viewports is (normally) ten years. I could imagine that the ten year refit for a submarine like this would be around 7 million usd.

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  160. Submarine evacuation reference from 1929 by TeaDaemon · · Score: 1

    This would indicate that pre-WW2 submarine evacuation was possible, and part of submariners' training:

    Connecticut

    ACTIVITY NAME: Naval Submarine Base New London
    MAJOR CLAIMANT: CINCLANTFLT
    TOWN: Groton
    COUNTY: New London

    ...

    Property Name: Escape Training Tank
    Alternate Name: Building #70
    Status: L
    Date: 2/7/84

    Description: The former Building #70, constructed in 1929, was the primary facility at the base for training sailors in submarine evacuation procedures. It was decommissioned in 1982 and subjected to an exhaustive engineering survey prior to demolition in 1988.

    ...

    This came from here: https://www.denix.osd.mil/denix/Public/ES-Programs / onservation/Legacy/Ref-Guide/refguide.html

    I'm not sure how early submarine evacuation procedures were developed, but I seem to remember it was possible from WW1 submarines as well, I'd need to do some further reseach to back that up though.

  161. This is at least a year old are you in hypersleep by Bob+Bitchen · · Score: 1

    or attention-deficit sleep?

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  162. $78 000 000 a bargain? by blitz77 · · Score: 1

    For that amount of money, I could buy around 500 decent houses... how much rent per week could you get? around $100 000...

  163. Neiman-Marcus Catalog by Mr.Sharpy · · Score: 1

    I recall this being in the Neiman-Marcus christmas catalog a couple of years ago. I think the price was lower at the time though.

  164. "Hey, baby.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...how'd you like to go down in my boat?"

  165. I've got an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...we attach wings to the boat, then get it to go really fast to decrease the drag of the water on the bottom of the boat. If we get it going fast enough, the boat may rise above the water, thus decreasing the drag further. We could connect a whole bunch of ports in this way, even inland if we made long stretches of water available to land and take off from. We could call them aerowaterports! Hey, can I get a patent on this?

  166. My favorite -- when I'm a parent I'll have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MY KID SELLS DOPE
    at Whateverville High School

    (although as I learned firsthand outside of a rave a
    few days ago, 'dope' in many regions refers to
    crack rock and not more innoculous herbal material.
    how sad... )

  167. Re:My favorite -- when I'm a parent I'll have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kids kids kids
    Check out William Burroughs' Naked Lunch, you'll see that dope has referred to heroin since at least the 50s. It's a generic term like drugs.

  168. Massive hype. by armb · · Score: 2

    "arguably, the most significant personal transportation device of the 20th century"

    Yeah right. That would be the same 20th century as the Model T Ford and the Wright brothers' first flight?

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