Listening to everyone here talk about all the IT administration benefits of VDI I am reminded why most IT organizations are so out of pace with their businesses. Not that the enhanced security, control and back up are bad but the cost in end user and business agility is simply too much. Need too roll out video conferencing on the desktop - sorry too bad (I know there are some exceptions), need real mobility - sorry too bad, need to install some new system that doesn't play nice in VDI - sorry too bad. What if you want to access outsourced or hosted services, now you have to ride back to your server, then ride out to the internet or VPN, all in all not a good solution for majority of users.
Why would any user voluntarily give up the features, and freedoms of local computing just because the IT guys say it makes their job easier. The answer is they won't. Thin will remain where it is now a very effective niche solution for basic application access. The future is fully functional multimedia mobile clients with access to secure services provided via your own data center or some outside cloud provider, not a wyse terminal.
Netflix? Are you listen as MS kills off that piece of bloated junk. I never let Sliverlight touch my Mac, and so I was forced to watch Netflix streaming on my inferior windows laptop. Do you you know the pain and anguish I felt as I tried to enjoy my netflix on the lenovo's screen? My eyes have slowly melted.
So Netflix, please move all your web base streaming to a nice non MS standard like HTML5 based players or Flash or anything that keeps my machine free of extra players.
I'm an IT Consultant, and I've had plenty of experience working with the Federal government. I can tell you first hand, the word consolidation is not something they like to hear. You see the Federal government employees I've worked with don't care about saving money, in fact I have seen just the opposite, they care about spending every last cent of their budget (but not going over). IT operations at the federal level are difficult to consolidate too because everyone has a very small change purse, rather than one large wallet. So they operate and purchase goods and services like a million little small businesses rather than consolidate into one IT Services purchasing power house. Finally you have the people angle, never mind the usual politics of fiefdoms and control, the mere mention of reducing head count upon completion of a consolidation project is very taboo.
So good on industry to try and show them the way to operational efficiency and savings but I would be shocked if it were actually implemented. A project like this would take a decade at least, or 2.5 terms, so I just don't see it.
"Richard Blumenthal (born February 13, 1946) is an American lawyer and politician. A member of the Democratic Party, he has been Attorney General of Connecticut since 1991. He is a candidate in the 2010 U.S. Senate election for the seat currently held by Christopher Dodd.[5]"
Tell that to the Credit Reporting Bureaus that use your data to make money. My money says Telco will simply see this as gravy, and not pass along any of the financial benefit to the customer.
Where is the user outrage and class action lawsuits? You sold me X and then you remotely turned it into Y and Y
Sadly this seems to be the trend, we are expected to concedes that all electronic devices we buy (a la iphone, ipad, PS3, Canon DSLR, Nintendo Wii) are no longer ours, and we basically have no rights to their internals. We are willing victims, trading our money for their experience rather than the product.
Why have I not heard one person use the B word. Boycott, don't buy the PS3, don't buy their TVs, don't buy their camera, camcorders, over priced laptops or see their movies. Maybe then they will learn that their are financial consequences for their actions even if they seem to believe otherwise.
Not to start a flame war here, but to give my opinion as IT person who doesn't code (scripts don't count right;)
I read 8 different versions of who owns the codes, depending on state, and contracts, even sales tax got in there. Reading all this made me think, wow I would go to elance, find a shop in India tell them I own the code and let them at it. Knowing full well they will probably keep it for themselves over there, while I have full rights over here. Done Simple.
Yes it would probably not be as good and would take 2X longer to write (I read slashdot you know), but I don't have the headache that apparently accompanies hiring a local subcontractor.
I have a magic mouse, and apparently we share the same messy fingers, I can report back it had no impact on function whatsoever.
You just made me so hungry and its only 11:25.... Now I need a " a great three story cheese bacon hamburger filled with majonese, chipotle ketchup and delicious cheese with deep fried french fries, topped with a cold beer and chocolate ice cream with strawberries and chocolate dipping."
Where do I get one!!! Tell me now!!
A Internet Governance Conference in Egypt is like.... Vegan conference at a McDonald.
You really expected the UN or Egypt to do something China might not like?
Seriously? A download, installed, and password prompting program is a vulnerability?
That must mean that apple's Remote Desktop is a huge vulnerability. Giving the attacker complete control of the victims system, and the ability to execute remote code! Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!
I pray to the gods of streaming video make Netflix follow suit!
I refuse to install Silverlight on my machine, in fact I click on the view now button, just to get the 'install player' message in the hopes someone is watching how many abandoned sessions there are!
I am willing to miss out on part of my netflix service because because of their awful choice of player. If Hulu and now the MLB can stream full length movies with flash, so can you! And I watch more movies on Hulu because of that!
Richard and I got into a Net Neutrality 'Discussion' in the comment section of Techdirt last year.
I have a feeling he is some how benefits from the Pro Net neutrality side of the debate, although I have no proof.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070319/121200.shtml
Judge for yourself. I did turn into a screaming little douche at the end though...but it was for the Love of a Free Internet.
From your post I deduce two things about you.
One, you are covering for lazy prof you can be bothered to write new questions when the old ones get stale. Two you were that very lonely person who sat in the front of Chem class thinking yourself superior to the us run of the mill geeks. You probably went on to be a the TA from hell.
Like it or not we are a copy and paste society (ask the RIAA and MPAA if you don't believe me;) The only way to get ahead of it is to constantly keep the content changing, which might be a shocking proposition for the prof who's used the same book (usually his) for the last 10 years.
Bravo Man! You called it!
It was this same thinking that moved me to a MAC (yes yes I have linux too, what do you think I formated my old XP machine with:).
As far as I am concerned Windows and MS, have had their chance, instead of following the trends of day, lighter clients, smaller OS for smaller devices, they went with the usual. A chucky chocolete coookie eating, milkshake slurping, cloverfield size fatty, that removed functionality in the name of content protection. Well good for them...because I ponyed up the money and the time to move to another OS. I used Windows for over 15 years, other than my work laptop, I am kissing the MS 'environment' (trap) good bye. I hope Apple doesn't follow their lead too, but only time will tell.
So does this mean MS is hoping to splinter FS development, into GPL 2 and 3? isn't it a forgone conclusion that everything will (some day) be GPL v3? I am confused what this means for all those that signed on with MS?
Yes NICs can go crazy and start blasting broadcasts or Unicasts over your network, if you have a Cisco switch (or any other that supports storm control like features) you may want to enable it, it costs you nothing but the time it takes you to update the config.
on the access switch (the one connected to your PCs) get into config mode at type this on every interface that connects directly to a PC (use the interface range command to speed things up if you want).
Switch(config-if)#storm-control unicast level X
where X is the percent of total interface bandwidth you specify as the threshold for cutting access to that port. Its measure every second, so if you have 100 meg port and you set it to 30, if the PC pushes more than 30 meg a sec in unicasts the switch kills the port, till the pc calms down, if its a 10 meg port the 30 then equals 3 meg, etc etc.
You can also add a second line to control broadcasts by changing the word unicast to broadcast. If that had this in place, when the NIC went nuts, the switch would have killed the port, and no outage (I assume a lot here, but you get the point).
GM has announced a move to help make them more profitable. Effective immediately all GM cars and trucks will come with a Trusted Computing Platform Module to ensure no after market "Pirated" parts (including tires and possible gasoline..from Shell only with 5 grace emergency fill ups) can be used with their products. The platform will run on windows Vista Ultimate Best in the world Crazy Sexy Auto Edition and use HDCP connections to ensure there are no analogue holes. No GM is not doing this....
if Apple = RIAA and iTunes = null Then statement = true
'Apple has maintained a stranglehold on the digital music industry by locking up iTunes music with DRM... and "it's causing everybody else who is participating in the marketplace -- the other service providers, the labels, the users -- a lot of pain. If they could simply open it up, everybody would love them.""
else = Music Industry silly spin excuses for their failing business model
I don't mean to point out the obvious but MS is not an Internet company (even with OZ's help). They are OS and standalone application developers...who are able to use TCP and UDP in their products but certainly do not have the corp. balls to do something really innovative to get them noticed on the net.
The reason they are getting their @ss handed to them this time around (in search, social networking etc), is they can't bend the will of users to use their sub par products like in days gone by. No more proprietary formats or files, they really have to compete if they want to win, and to compete means take risks...and its for that reason that they will not win.
They got lots money...and a nice chunk of the desktop market...but that's not as important as it used to be. One final example, flash video basically demolished wmv as the defacto standard of video sharing overnight. First it was hardware abstraction...now its OS abstraction...and then what will MS do?
Slashdot Mirror
Listening to everyone here talk about all the IT administration benefits of VDI I am reminded why most IT organizations are so out of pace with their businesses. Not that the enhanced security, control and back up are bad but the cost in end user and business agility is simply too much. Need too roll out video conferencing on the desktop - sorry too bad (I know there are some exceptions), need real mobility - sorry too bad, need to install some new system that doesn't play nice in VDI - sorry too bad. What if you want to access outsourced or hosted services, now you have to ride back to your server, then ride out to the internet or VPN, all in all not a good solution for majority of users.
Why would any user voluntarily give up the features, and freedoms of local computing just because the IT guys say it makes their job easier. The answer is they won't. Thin will remain where it is now a very effective niche solution for basic application access. The future is fully functional multimedia mobile clients with access to secure services provided via your own data center or some outside cloud provider, not a wyse terminal.
Netflix? Are you listen as MS kills off that piece of bloated junk. I never let Sliverlight touch my Mac, and so I was forced to watch Netflix streaming on my inferior windows laptop. Do you you know the pain and anguish I felt as I tried to enjoy my netflix on the lenovo's screen? My eyes have slowly melted.
So Netflix, please move all your web base streaming to a nice non MS standard like HTML5 based players or Flash or anything that keeps my machine free of extra players.
Thank you, your humble customer
I'm an IT Consultant, and I've had plenty of experience working with the Federal government. I can tell you first hand, the word consolidation is not something they like to hear. You see the Federal government employees I've worked with don't care about saving money, in fact I have seen just the opposite, they care about spending every last cent of their budget (but not going over). IT operations at the federal level are difficult to consolidate too because everyone has a very small change purse, rather than one large wallet. So they operate and purchase goods and services like a million little small businesses rather than consolidate into one IT Services purchasing power house. Finally you have the people angle, never mind the usual politics of fiefdoms and control, the mere mention of reducing head count upon completion of a consolidation project is very taboo.
So good on industry to try and show them the way to operational efficiency and savings but I would be shocked if it were actually implemented. A project like this would take a decade at least, or 2.5 terms, so I just don't see it.
"Richard Blumenthal (born February 13, 1946) is an American lawyer and politician. A member of the Democratic Party, he has been Attorney General of Connecticut since 1991. He is a candidate in the 2010 U.S. Senate election for the seat currently held by Christopher Dodd.[5]"
Nuff said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Blumenthal
Tell that to the Credit Reporting Bureaus that use your data to make money. My money says Telco will simply see this as gravy, and not pass along any of the financial benefit to the customer.
How is it these guys can get away with this?
Where is the user outrage and class action lawsuits? You sold me X and then you remotely turned it into Y and Y
Sadly this seems to be the trend, we are expected to concedes that all electronic devices we buy (a la iphone, ipad, PS3, Canon DSLR, Nintendo Wii) are no longer ours, and we basically have no rights to their internals. We are willing victims, trading our money for their experience rather than the product.
Why have I not heard one person use the B word. Boycott, don't buy the PS3, don't buy their TVs, don't buy their camera, camcorders, over priced laptops or see their movies. Maybe then they will learn that their are financial consequences for their actions even if they seem to believe otherwise.
Not to start a flame war here, but to give my opinion as IT person who doesn't code (scripts don't count right ;)
I read 8 different versions of who owns the codes, depending on state, and contracts, even sales tax got in there. Reading all this made me think, wow I would go to elance, find a shop in India tell them I own the code and let them at it. Knowing full well they will probably keep it for themselves over there, while I have full rights over here. Done Simple.
Yes it would probably not be as good and would take 2X longer to write (I read slashdot you know), but I don't have the headache that apparently accompanies hiring a local subcontractor.
I have a magic mouse, and apparently we share the same messy fingers, I can report back it had no impact on function whatsoever. You just made me so hungry and its only 11:25.... Now I need a " a great three story cheese bacon hamburger filled with majonese, chipotle ketchup and delicious cheese with deep fried french fries, topped with a cold beer and chocolate ice cream with strawberries and chocolate dipping." Where do I get one!!! Tell me now!!
A Internet Governance Conference in Egypt is like.... Vegan conference at a McDonald. You really expected the UN or Egypt to do something China might not like?
Seriously? A download, installed, and password prompting program is a vulnerability?
That must mean that apple's Remote Desktop is a huge vulnerability. Giving the attacker complete control of the victims system, and the ability to execute remote code! Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!
I pray to the gods of streaming video make Netflix follow suit! I refuse to install Silverlight on my machine, in fact I click on the view now button, just to get the 'install player' message in the hopes someone is watching how many abandoned sessions there are!
I am willing to miss out on part of my netflix service because because of their awful choice of player. If Hulu and now the MLB can stream full length movies with flash, so can you! And I watch more movies on Hulu because of that!
Bro you are getting MS and Dell Mixed up.
That was Michael Dell who said this about Apple in 1997
What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders.
Richard and I got into a Net Neutrality 'Discussion' in the comment section of Techdirt last year. I have a feeling he is some how benefits from the Pro Net neutrality side of the debate, although I have no proof. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070319/121200.shtml Judge for yourself. I did turn into a screaming little douche at the end though...but it was for the Love of a Free Internet.
From your post I deduce two things about you. One, you are covering for lazy prof you can be bothered to write new questions when the old ones get stale. Two you were that very lonely person who sat in the front of Chem class thinking yourself superior to the us run of the mill geeks. You probably went on to be a the TA from hell. Like it or not we are a copy and paste society (ask the RIAA and MPAA if you don't believe me ;) The only way to get ahead of it is to constantly keep the content changing, which might be a shocking proposition for the prof who's used the same book (usually his) for the last 10 years.
You mark my words, the next version of MS OS will have even more copyright "features".
/. so sloooooooow lately!
Vista and its HDCP is just the start. I really don't like these people.
On another note, was
Bravo Man! You called it! It was this same thinking that moved me to a MAC (yes yes I have linux too, what do you think I formated my old XP machine with:). As far as I am concerned Windows and MS, have had their chance, instead of following the trends of day, lighter clients, smaller OS for smaller devices, they went with the usual. A chucky chocolete coookie eating, milkshake slurping, cloverfield size fatty, that removed functionality in the name of content protection. Well good for them...because I ponyed up the money and the time to move to another OS. I used Windows for over 15 years, other than my work laptop, I am kissing the MS 'environment' (trap) good bye. I hope Apple doesn't follow their lead too, but only time will tell.
So does this mean MS is hoping to splinter FS development, into GPL 2 and 3? isn't it a forgone conclusion that everything will (some day) be GPL v3? I am confused what this means for all those that signed on with MS?
Yes NICs can go crazy and start blasting broadcasts or Unicasts over your network, if you have a Cisco switch (or any other that supports storm control like features) you may want to enable it, it costs you nothing but the time it takes you to update the config. on the access switch (the one connected to your PCs) get into config mode at type this on every interface that connects directly to a PC (use the interface range command to speed things up if you want). Switch(config-if)#storm-control unicast level X where X is the percent of total interface bandwidth you specify as the threshold for cutting access to that port. Its measure every second, so if you have 100 meg port and you set it to 30, if the PC pushes more than 30 meg a sec in unicasts the switch kills the port, till the pc calms down, if its a 10 meg port the 30 then equals 3 meg, etc etc. You can also add a second line to control broadcasts by changing the word unicast to broadcast. If that had this in place, when the NIC went nuts, the switch would have killed the port, and no outage (I assume a lot here, but you get the point).
GM has announced a move to help make them more profitable. Effective immediately all GM cars and trucks will come with a Trusted Computing Platform Module to ensure no after market "Pirated" parts (including tires and possible gasoline..from Shell only with 5 grace emergency fill ups) can be used with their products. The platform will run on windows Vista Ultimate Best in the world Crazy Sexy Auto Edition and use HDCP connections to ensure there are no analogue holes. No GM is not doing this....
Broadcast flags...start to retard its functionality. http://wireless.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-c able-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
I will stick with the operating systems that lets me make the decisions
Can I Get an Amen!!! Preach Brother Preach!!!!
At home nothing beats my Senseo...just add a little Douwe Egberts (from Belgium no less; I like the Dark roast) and let the coffee goodness flow.
if Apple = RIAA
... and "it's causing everybody else who is participating in the marketplace -- the other service providers, the labels, the users -- a lot of pain. If they could simply open it up, everybody would love them.""
and iTunes = null
Then statement = true
'Apple has maintained a stranglehold on the digital music industry by locking up iTunes music with DRM
else = Music Industry silly spin excuses for their failing business model
I don't mean to point out the obvious but MS is not an Internet company (even with OZ's help). They are OS and standalone application developers...who are able to use TCP and UDP in their products but certainly do not have the corp. balls to do something really innovative to get them noticed on the net.
The reason they are getting their @ss handed to them this time around (in search, social networking etc), is they can't bend the will of users to use their sub par products like in days gone by. No more proprietary formats or files, they really have to compete if they want to win, and to compete means take risks...and its for that reason that they will not win.
They got lots money...and a nice chunk of the desktop market...but that's not as important as it used to be. One final example, flash video basically demolished wmv as the defacto standard of video sharing overnight. First it was hardware abstraction...now its OS abstraction...and then what will MS do?