Yes, but for the first time, redmond is not in a position to succeed because: 1/ the consumers are aware. Everybody and his grand mother know of the monopolistic behavior of redmond, even windows die hard fans. (the other day i saw a comedy on tv on prime time, where they put a show showing microsoft eggs in the supermarket: to buy your eggs you must first pay and subscribe a contract through an undecypherable eula which gives you the right to buy eggs. Then you can buy your box. At home in the box you see locks on the eggs, you must phone microsoft to obtain the lock to open and use each egg. The phone call is billed.) 2/ the market is aware. This time, they re not going after a sleeping giant like ibm, It's Sony which is also a huge company but can't be caught off guard. And other smaller compagnies won't give them any support since they know they'll get swallowed or destroyed if Sony loses. Smaller compagny like Nintendo are serious actors not to be dispised. Its management is wise, expert and the console sell well in Japan). 3/ The place is already fillen with ps2. Every kid I know, and through my kid they re numerous, who likes consoles has a ps2. The few who havent want a ps2. The rest wants a game cube by the way, out of "nintendo does great games" attitudes (mario and zelda fans for example).
but maybe there is a market for people who would like to have silent, smaller computers. And i'm not talking about laptop. People who are disappointed by the arm race to the Hrz in cpus, ram, and video, which result in overpriced noisy pcs, just to do the same stuff than with the previous pc. Just a look around me and I see many persons interrested in the eden and likes motherboards.(When I asked at the motherboard desk of a big pcshop if they had them, the lady looked so pissed off to say no that I understood that I must have been the 60th that day to ask) Small, silent, unexpensive. With a transmeta, there would even be some horsepower in it. Enough at least.
Well; i didnt react in such a spirit. I'm fairly against redmond, but am not on a fanatic stance. If I had been that kind of extrem, I would have rejoiced over the event. Well, I didnt. I just saw the work of one man being hurt by that way of making busines, as long as his feelings. I really believe we're not reading the same text: my interpretation of the events: he manages the asp lists. at microsoft request he adds.net list bandwiths triples, isp ask to pay retroactively he ask redmond to cover for this part of the fees they do suddenly he receives contract. there was never a word about it. basicaly the said contract is arse rape. that plus the fact that he realised that meanwhile they did no support his site with links and all. At this point, if it wasnt an ethic problem, he would stop his.net list, and resume with the asp list, like he did and still can manage to do.
Also, maybe the real difference is that you don't believe that they could try to rip off him from his work. Look at this page: http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/ and especially the little bit at the end: In his words, "I still believe in MS products, but am increasingly concerned over how they are running the business side of things." It really look like the words on the faq about Mr Carrols love of microsoft products.
I still believe that hard workers who believe in helping people, whatever their personnality is, gets better treatment in the open source community. Lower wages also. But give me a fair open honnest microsoft any day you like. Until then, I will be against them, without fanatism and full of sympathy for those who suffer from their crushing habits.
But it was out of proportion before that. People say: "but if you don't like their policy, don't use xbox live." But right before that, if there's too much cheaters, use another server,use another game! We just don't need no fscking internet police to say who has the right and who hasnt to play a videogame!! We're not talking about crimes, for christ's sake!
SInce his great prediction of "internet will never be popular", bill gates has tried to established his own private giant network. First round: msn. doesnt work. Second round: ie everywhere. people don't notice the difference. 3rd round:.net nobody knows what it is. 4rth round: drm product. modded down. It could have been simpler to admit that he was wrong.
It's funny how we are all different in our ways of doing the same activity. Personnally i don't care if anyone is cheating to seem better. To me I just face someone better than me and it's part of the game. Wether it's one of those talented 13 years old kids or one of those untalented script users don't make a difference. More challenge, more fun. On the other hand, there's just no way i'm going to a server with lag. That's my limit.
As to the foul langage, they can cancel xbox live here in France. There is just about everyone who use foul langage. So gamers! Picture yourself the french soldiers of the "holy graal" arguing with the redmond official about getting kicked for farting in the admin's general direction" Anyway nobody will buy it here, it's too expensive, so that settle the matter.
That's what i remembered from some other mobos. So we have: 128 Mo drops to 120 Mo = bad. Use of kde since desktop distro and desktop user with 120 = bad use of mplayer for full screen divx (as in the ads) = bad 8 megs of video memory but 8 megs of slow memory = bad And the cpu is not a king of speed. I still wonder.
I didnt know the nforce was sharing ram. I'm amazed. thx for the tip. Usually, when i hear integrated sound or/and video, i run away screaming. (I had to help assemble and later on, help in trying to fix drivers issues on a lot of computers when those cheap integrated mobos appeared long ago, and dont want to hear about it anymore. trauma.) Anyway, a lot of people tell me it works better those days. I'm quite surprised anyway that a system with, say 128 megs, can "lose" 32 megs with no problems, and for video by the same account. Stunning news.
remember that it was Charles who intiated the conversation to have Microsoft fund 100% of his site, not Microsoft. That's not what i read: We only moved 4 million messages a month in Classic ASP but at bequest of ASP.net team we added ASP.net lists and became 12 million messages per month within 3 months of starting our first ASP.net lists. Those 12 million messages meant I got an angry phone call from my ISP tripling my rates retroactively so I was suddenly confronted with an unexpected $8,000 additional expense thanks to supporting ASP.net. So I asked for Microsoft help to avoid closing down the ASP.net Beta1 lists. I could afford the Classic Lists but not ASP.net lists alone.
more: (I cannot comment on his ethics, as I have not dealt with him in busines... have you?) There are other ways to look at one's ethic. I try to get it through his writing on his site. If he were serious about wanting to keep them up, he could have negotiated the contract details. unless he has an ethical problem in being treated that way by a company he had faith in and put of lot of work to support in. That's what ethics is about, there's a point where you stop to compromise or lose all ethics. However, I do not see that any of us that own sites DESERVE to get 100% support for nothing. It's not about getting anything, it's about not losing what's intimately yours.
I guess that after he realised what he could expect in terms of help and respect from a company he helped and respected a lot, he lost all envy in continuing to support them. Or maybe does he lie in his faq? But that i don't know. Do you have any more facts that make you think so?
Yes, but it's shared memory. I assumed it was one of those combo graphic chipset that take the memory from the ram. Was I wrong? From that point, I assumed further that the chipset wouldnt be doing a great job at delivering pictures, which would show even more in a mplayer situation where the cpu is already doing heavy stuff and using as much as it can of the ram already. Was I all wrong again?
What I'd like to know is if it's possible to have: Up to 8 MB shared video memory and Watch DivX, AVI, Mpeg, files and other supported formats full screen with dynamic sound in a confortable way? At least, they dont talk about 3D games.
during the peru thing, going along gates offer of money, was great pressure from the us government through its ambassador: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0, 1367,54141,00.html New motto for the new millenium: Freedom? Yes! for us
Well, to take my own words, you don't have any flaws then. I'm really sad about what happen to your initiative and in no way found in your story matter to rejoice. Now that I understand that it's the people you were helping that did matter all the way to you, i would like to know what it is that you found in their products that made you make overenthusiastic comments such as "Nah I worship their products." ? (it's a genuine question. if you don't have time to answer, don't bother, i will go and follow the links you made in your site to find elements of anwser)
First, he is ethical. Which is at the root of the free software movement.
I guess he could not see the kind of redmond actions his site is suffering right now because he must have blinded himself due to his total devotion and defense to MS products. Being the one to be hurt always make things easier to understand.
Yet, as he points out, he could go and get bought, or he could go on and continue to support his site that way, but prefers to shut it down due to ethical reason. Good man. Second. He has built a serious community site through a lot of efforts which is also the core of the free software efforts. Apparently, redmond can cope with this kind of behavior (too independant for them, probably) despite recent speeches about community spirit. Third, such a fine man, could be very usefull in helping some projects in getting what they lack, the kind of features that made this man stick to redmond so long. There must be something real in his praises of their products and too often, unix cultured people dont get that kind of "things". But he still links to asp.net forums despite all they just did to him. Well, he probably dreams in a "deus ex machina" Gates, coming down from his tower and putting things together, because he is "Doing the right thing and letting Ms know when its own employees hurt it's reputation is vital.". Yes, it must be "some employee", it can't be the compagny as a whole.
That is his flaw probably. He still dont get that what is happening to him is the spirit of redmond activity and has been the key to their success since the beginning.
Repeat after me:"extend and embrace; or strangle to death." So we might see a redmond move to correct this situation, but it will be a one time pr move. The kind of "redmond make a deal with peru government" move.
you forget half of the circle. The diversification is not meant as a way to find new products to sale in order to have more profits. The diversification is meant as a way to sustain or extend the monopoly. The monopoly is based on the unavoidable duo windows/office which provides the cash flow to operate the monopoly. All derivative products and their strategy are always centered around keeping the duo unavoidable. Take the browser as an exemple, you cant find a more unprofitable redmond product since it was never sold but given. It was never meant to be profitable. It was meant to destroy the netscape navigator and the risk of applications which didnt care about the underlaying os (think web apps and java). Now it's ok because anyone "need" ie to do that. This is all in the finding of facts of the doj trial. Those losses are the top of the iceberg that is meant to destroy others. Actually, as soon as people stop to pay a lot for something that is cheap (an os and an office suite), then the duo wont be a cash cow anymore in the minute. That must be what keep them awake. It's called open source.
A 4 port nic is not expensive. I bought mine a little less than 3X the price of a regular nic with the same chipset. So it's much less expensive than a hub for a small network.
Since I've got pretty crappy hardware everywhere I can't say for sure it's the reason for the bad latency in my 3 pieces network, but it wouldnt be honnest not to mention it.
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preventing potential customer to coming to your site because they re not customer yet is a bad move also.
What about mutual trust and interrest?
the funny bit is that there is still games that will get released for such platform on linux.
Like majesty which is in beta at lgp.
Yes, but for the first time, redmond is not in a position to succeed because:
1/ the consumers are aware. Everybody and his grand mother know of the monopolistic behavior of redmond, even windows die hard fans.
(the other day i saw a comedy on tv on prime time, where they put a show showing microsoft eggs in the supermarket:
to buy your eggs you must first pay and subscribe a contract through an undecypherable eula which gives you the right to buy eggs.
Then you can buy your box.
At home in the box you see locks on the eggs, you must phone microsoft to obtain the lock to open and use each egg. The phone call is billed.)
2/ the market is aware. This time, they re not going after a sleeping giant like ibm, It's Sony which is also a huge company but can't be caught off guard. And other smaller compagnies won't give them any support since they know they'll get swallowed or destroyed if Sony loses. Smaller compagny like Nintendo are serious actors not to be dispised. Its management is wise, expert and the console sell well in Japan).
3/ The place is already fillen with ps2. Every kid I know, and through my kid they re numerous, who likes consoles has a ps2. The few who havent want a ps2. The rest wants a game cube by the way, out of "nintendo does great games" attitudes (mario and zelda fans for example).
but maybe there is a market for people who would like to have silent, smaller computers. And i'm not talking about laptop.
People who are disappointed by the arm race to the Hrz in cpus, ram, and video, which result in overpriced noisy pcs, just to do the same stuff than with the previous pc.
Just a look around me and I see many persons interrested in the eden and likes motherboards.(When I asked at the motherboard desk of a big pcshop if they had them, the lady looked so pissed off to say no that I understood that I must have been the 60th that day to ask)
Small, silent, unexpensive. With a transmeta, there would even be some horsepower in it. Enough at least.
You're right, of course.
Well; i didnt react in such a spirit. I'm fairly against redmond, but am not on a fanatic stance. .net list .net list, and resume with the asp list, like he did and still can manage to do.
If I had been that kind of extrem, I would have rejoiced over the event. Well, I didnt.
I just saw the work of one man being hurt by that way of making busines, as long as his feelings.
I really believe we're not reading the same text:
my interpretation of the events:
he manages the asp lists.
at microsoft request he adds
bandwiths triples, isp ask to pay retroactively
he ask redmond to cover for this part of the fees
they do
suddenly he receives contract. there was never a word about it.
basicaly the said contract is arse rape.
that plus the fact that he realised that meanwhile they did no support his site with links and all.
At this point, if it wasnt an ethic problem, he would stop his
Also, maybe the real difference is that you don't believe that they could try to rip off him from his work. Look at this page:
http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/
and especially the little bit at the end:
In his words, "I still believe in MS products, but am increasingly concerned over how they are running the business side of things."
It really look like the words on the faq about Mr Carrols love of microsoft products.
I still believe that hard workers who believe in helping people, whatever their personnality is, gets better treatment in the open source community. Lower wages also.
But give me a fair open honnest microsoft any day you like. Until then, I will be against them, without fanatism and full of sympathy for those who suffer from their crushing habits.
But it was out of proportion before that.
People say: "but if you don't like their policy, don't use xbox live."
But right before that, if there's too much cheaters, use another server,use another game!
We just don't need no fscking internet police to say who has the right and who hasnt to play a videogame!!
We're not talking about crimes, for christ's sake!
SInce his great prediction of "internet will never be popular", bill gates has tried to established his own private giant network. .net nobody knows what it is.
First round: msn. doesnt work.
Second round: ie everywhere. people don't notice the difference.
3rd round:
4rth round: drm product. modded down.
It could have been simpler to admit that he was wrong.
don't tell anyone as it's not common knowledge but, hmmm... yes... it's an excuse.
It's funny how we are all different in our ways of doing the same activity.
Personnally i don't care if anyone is cheating to seem better. To me I just face someone better than me and it's part of the game. Wether it's one of those talented 13 years old kids or one of those untalented script users don't make a difference. More challenge, more fun.
On the other hand, there's just no way i'm going to a server with lag. That's my limit.
As to the foul langage, they can cancel xbox live here in France. There is just about everyone who use foul langage. So gamers!
Picture yourself the french soldiers of the "holy graal" arguing with the redmond official about getting kicked for
farting in the admin's general direction"
Anyway nobody will buy it here, it's too expensive, so that settle the matter.
That's what i remembered from some other mobos.
So we have:
128 Mo drops to 120 Mo = bad.
Use of kde since desktop distro and desktop user with 120 = bad
use of mplayer for full screen divx (as in the ads) = bad
8 megs of video memory but 8 megs of slow memory = bad
And the cpu is not a king of speed.
I still wonder.
I didnt know the nforce was sharing ram. I'm amazed. thx for the tip.
Usually, when i hear integrated sound or/and video, i run away screaming. (I had to help assemble and later on, help in trying to fix drivers issues on a lot of computers when those cheap integrated mobos appeared long ago, and dont want to hear about it anymore. trauma.)
Anyway, a lot of people tell me it works better those days.
I'm quite surprised anyway that a system with, say 128 megs, can "lose" 32 megs with no problems, and for video by the same account. Stunning news.
remember that it was Charles who intiated the conversation to have Microsoft fund 100% of his site, not Microsoft.
... have you?)
That's not what i read:
We only moved 4 million messages a month in Classic ASP but at bequest of ASP.net team we added ASP.net lists and became 12 million messages per month within 3 months of starting our first ASP.net lists. Those 12 million messages meant I got an angry phone call from my ISP tripling my rates retroactively so I was suddenly confronted with an unexpected $8,000 additional expense thanks to supporting ASP.net. So I asked for Microsoft help to avoid closing down the ASP.net Beta1 lists. I could afford the Classic Lists but not ASP.net lists alone.
more:
(I cannot comment on his ethics, as I have not dealt with him in busines
There are other ways to look at one's ethic. I try to get it through his writing on his site.
If he were serious about wanting to keep them up, he could have negotiated the contract details.
unless he has an ethical problem in being treated that way by a company he had faith in and put of lot of work to support in.
That's what ethics is about, there's a point where you stop to compromise or lose all ethics.
However, I do not see that any of us that own sites DESERVE to get 100% support for nothing.
It's not about getting anything, it's about not losing what's intimately yours.
I guess that after he realised what he could expect in terms of help and respect from a company he helped and respected a lot, he lost all envy in continuing to support them.
Or maybe does he lie in his faq? But that i don't know. Do you have any more facts that make you think so?
Yes, but it's shared memory.
I assumed it was one of those combo graphic chipset that take the memory from the ram.
Was I wrong?
From that point, I assumed further that the chipset wouldnt be doing a great job at delivering pictures, which would show even more in a mplayer situation where the cpu is already doing heavy stuff and using as much as it can of the ram already.
Was I all wrong again?
What I'd like to know is if it's possible to have:
Up to 8 MB shared video memory
and
Watch DivX, AVI, Mpeg, files and other supported formats full screen with dynamic sound
in a confortable way?
At least, they dont talk about 3D games.
during the peru thing, going along gates offer of money, was great pressure from the us government through its ambassador:, 1367,54141,00 .html
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0
New motto for the new millenium:
Freedom? Yes!
for us
It could be the spammer woman some news talked about lately for example.
Well, to take my own words, you don't have any flaws then.
I'm really sad about what happen to your initiative and in no way found in your story matter to rejoice.
Now that I understand that it's the people you were helping that did matter all the way to you, i would like to know what it is that you found in their products that made you make overenthusiastic comments such as "Nah I worship their products." ?
(it's a genuine question. if you don't have time to answer, don't bother, i will go and follow the links you made in your site to find elements of anwser)
Error above: of course it's "can't cope".
First, he is ethical. Which is at the root of the free software movement.
I guess he could not see the kind of redmond actions his site is suffering right now because he must have blinded himself due to his total devotion and defense to MS products. Being the one to be hurt always make things easier to understand.
Yet, as he points out, he could go and get bought, or he could go on and continue to support his site that way, but prefers to shut it down due to ethical reason. Good man.
Second. He has built a serious community site through a lot of efforts which is also the core of the free software efforts. Apparently, redmond can cope with this kind of behavior (too independant for them, probably) despite recent speeches about community spirit.
Third, such a fine man, could be very usefull in helping some projects in getting what they lack, the kind of features that made this man stick to redmond so long. There must be something real in his praises of their products and too often, unix cultured people dont get that kind of "things".
But he still links to asp.net forums despite all they just did to him.
Well, he probably dreams in a "deus ex machina" Gates, coming down from his tower and putting things together, because he is "Doing the right thing and letting Ms know when its own employees hurt it's reputation is vital.". Yes, it must be "some employee", it can't be the compagny as a whole.
That is his flaw probably. He still dont get that what is happening to him is the spirit of redmond activity and has been the key to their success since the beginning.
Repeat after me:"extend and embrace; or strangle to death."
So we might see a redmond move to correct this situation, but it will be a one time pr move. The kind of "redmond make a deal with peru government" move.
you forget half of the circle.
The diversification is not meant as a way to find new products to sale in order to have more profits. The diversification is meant as a way to sustain or extend the monopoly. The monopoly is based on the unavoidable duo windows/office which provides the cash flow to operate the monopoly. All derivative products and their strategy are always centered around keeping the duo unavoidable.
Take the browser as an exemple, you cant find a more unprofitable redmond product since it was never sold but given. It was never meant to be profitable. It was meant to destroy the netscape navigator and the risk of applications which didnt care about the underlaying os (think web apps and java). Now it's ok because anyone "need" ie to do that.
This is all in the finding of facts of the doj trial. Those losses are the top of the iceberg that is meant to destroy others.
Actually, as soon as people stop to pay a lot for something that is cheap (an os and an office suite), then the duo wont be a cash cow anymore in the minute. That must be what keep them awake. It's called open source.
yes, i watched it. nicely done.
you're a sadist:Fiat Lux is available in two versions, both compressed with QuickTime 4.0 using the Sorenson compressor:
It's almost as though ??????
What does it take for you to get that it isnt as though?
And why nerfing malevolent by inconsiderate ?
A 4 port nic is not expensive. I bought mine a little less than 3X the price of a regular nic with the same chipset.
So it's much less expensive than a hub for a small network.
Since I've got pretty crappy hardware everywhere I can't say for sure it's the reason for the bad latency in my 3 pieces network, but it wouldnt be honnest not to mention it.