Those children were being extremely disrespectful to someone who was sent by God, by extention to God himself, and they did not do it ignorantly. Their parrents did nothing to control them. Remember, they "came out from the city". Do you think their parents didn't know? The death of their own children lies on their heads. Besides that, the entire event is only recorded in 2 verses. More then likely there is much more to the story. However, thats irrelevant. The point was made. You can not be disrespectful to God or those sent in his name without repercussions. If God sees fit to, he will reserect those children when the time comes.
1'st John 4:8: "God is love". I'm sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. You assume that living forever is miserable becouse this world full of evil and imperfect humans is miserable. You also assume that God is miserable, and created humans (and as extention all life, including angels) to share his misery. The fact is, that God is complete in himself. He does not need anyone else around to make him happy. His modivation for creating is love. He wishes to share existance with others out of love. You could spend a current lifetime studing one species of flower and still not know everything about it. Living forever we would be able to learn about Gods creation and never run out of new things. And, if after a few billon years we do learn everything there is to know about our world, or our plane of existance, God would undoubtedly create more things for us to learn about. Why would he do that for us? Simple. "God is love". The oportunities are endless.
If God wished to see into the future, he could have. However, that does not mean that he always does. Thats like saying that becouse I am the best opera singer in the world that every word that comes out of my mouth is sung as an opera.
The original design of mankind is laid out in the bible. God does not give up on his plans so easily. In time, when all the issues have been settled, his original plan will be realised and this situation can never happen again, since his name will be vindicated and anyone else who rebels against him can be dealt with on the spot. The person responsible for all the suffering we have is Satan. He, like mankind, was created with free will. He was created as a perfect angel, and one of high rank in Gods organization. He let his greed and desire for humans to worship him get the better of him. The entire time from then has been working to straghten out the mess Satan made. Satan brought up issues that could not be dealt with instantly. He chalanged God's right to rule, and claimed that humans, even in their perfect condition, were a flawed design. In order to prove Satan a liar, time was needed. God's son, Jesus, was sent to earth as a perfect Human to prove that mankind was not a flawed design, and to give his perfect human life in exchange for what Adam lost. No, God is not responsible for evil, or Slashdot.
He knew the gullible bint was going to eat the apple.
Um... no. God gave mankind the gift of free will so that they could use that free will to obey him and thus show that they loved him as much as he loved them. After all, he did love them enough to give them life. That *one* tree that they were not to eat from was the *only* law that they had. They were perfect, and as such they would make no mistakes. They *chose* to disobey God. They decided they did not want to submit to Gods authority. That one tree was the only way that they had to prove that they were faithful to God. Without it, there would have been no opportunity to do so. They failed.
Of course, this is the same god who told Abraham to sacrifice his only son to Him, and waited until the knife was actually descending to say "Psych!".
This is the same God who actualy went though with letting his own son, who was counted as a decendant of Abraham's son Issac, to die as a criminal and provide a randsom for the perfect life that Adam forfited. The recording of the event was created as a forgleam of what God would give up for mankind. Becouse of his faith and obediance, Abraham is the only person in bible history that is called "Gods Friend" (James 2:23)
Can't the ID folks consider the possibility that evolution is the tool God used to create us? Evolution does not disprove the existence of God.
There is nothing in the bible that says that animals cannot adapt to their enviroment. If that was true, all humans would be the same race unchanged by their enviroment. What is *does* say is that God created all the animals "according to their kinds" (Genisis 1:21,25). This pretty much rules out reptiles evolving into mammals, etc, unless you can find a way to reconsile that. My understanding of the fossal record seems to align itself with those scriptures, i.e., there are explosions of species and changes in those species, but hardly any links between the "kinds".
where exactly did they come from if the planet is in fact only 6000-odd years old?
If you look at the original Hebrew, the word translated "day" in Genesis has the same meaning as if I said "In my fathers day, automobile fuel was 35 cents a gallon". It refers to a time period. The references to "morning" and "evening" are the same. If this was not the case, there would be no way to count the days until the 3rd "day", since thats when the sun and moon became visable on the surface of the earth.
The earth is several billion years old. The universe is much older. Those who think that the bible claims the earth was created in 6 literal days simply have not done enough research on the matter.
Yeah... sure. After all, realizing that the problems are bigger then the rightous minority of humanity can handle means we all just sit back on our collective buttocks.
>Are you seriously suggesting that armed rebellion against the government is a right guaranteed by the constitution?
What exactly is a "right"? Your comment seems to suggest that you believe that a "right" is whatever the government allows you to do. How exactly do you protect your "rights" when the government says: "No, you can't do that any more". I know! You can all just sit down and talk about it! Yeah, that will fix the problem. History has shown over and over again that there is only one way to correct the problem of an overly oppressive government.
Also, no, I would not expect any government to say "it's allowed in the constitution so I guess we can't do anything to stop you." any more then the founding fathers expected the British to do. Oppressive governments never do. The fact of the matter is that it would take real work and the sacrifice of a lot of lives to accomplish that. Thats really the problem. People value themselves far more then the greater good or doing the righteous thing. Thats why we are all in the situation we are today, a lack of morality.
And just so you understand my personal position, I don't even own a gun of any kind. I have absolutely no desire to start or join in any "armed rebellion". My hope lies elsewhere when it comes to this worlds problems. This world is beyond hope in my eyes.
Well... lets come full circle, shall we? What happend the last time the people of north america felt like they were being oppressed by their government? Simple. They got their guns and took it out. That's what the 2nd amendment is for, remember?
"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
It's not there so people can protect their property from criminals. It's not there so we can all hunt with them. It's there so the citizens can protect themselves from their own oppressive government. Thats the last resort of our system of checks and balances.
Where the heck do you live? Here in PA the kids all get picked up right at the end of their driveway by a hydrocarbon belching old school bus. Hell, the f'ing thing stops every 30 feet in some places. How the hell could the kids get hit?
Sorry, I must disagree. Diesel engings have already scaled from small portable generators (15hp) to locomotives. Now much smaller and lighter would a diesel enging have to get?
First, on the grandparent.... LOL. Good joke. I guess you never met one on a road course. 2nd, to the parent... C5 'vettes can pull over.9G's in a corner right off the showroom floor. Also, they have 51/49 weight distrobution.
Uh... bigots? Where have you been the past 50 years? The Americans call the French pussys and cowards... The French call the Americans arrogant and, uh, bigots... You must be french.:D
BTW: The whole thing is a joke anyway. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Pussy.:P
The 2nd amendment was not written to protect citizens from each other. It was written to protect the citizens from their own government should it go awry. They did this because of their experiences with the British government before they had to kick their ass to get their "freedom". What the hell happened?!:P
I wish... No, just an old athlon here. But the question of 64 bit was not brought up. He was talking about a new kernel version breaking nvidia's drivers. I'd like to know whats up with that.
Can you please elaborate on this statement? I'm running 2.6.5 right with Nvidia's drivers on my debian system. I'm having no problems whatsoever. What kernel release are you talking about?
You still don't get it. If what I have, which the bible defines as faith, is different then what an online dictionary says it is, then maybe the online dictionary should change it's definition. I'm pretty sure the bible defined it first.
faith is complete belief in something without question with NO EVIDENCE.
Um.... no. Hebrews 11:1 Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.
Much like the wind, "evident demonstration" is given and expectations assured by observing the effects.
Also, I looked at the quiz. What a pile of uneducated crap. Thats an understatement. So many things twisted and mutilated to make it sound as if Gods own commandments are evil. Symbolism taken as reality, and reality taken as symbolism. Several of the "answers" are just plain wrong. As an example, the writer had the audacity to say that Jeph'thah had his daughter sacrificed on the alter, when clearly if you read the passage further you would find that she lived a good long life, and that the daughters of the land would commend her for her devotion from "year to year". She was given to God to serve him. This was the same thing that Han'nah did with her son, Samuel. (1 Samuel 1:9-28) Imagine that! A *Woman* having the authority to give her son as a servant of God! With all the crap that "Quiz" has about the bible saying that women should be treated as dirt, even... Maybe the author should have read Proverbs 31:10-31 where it talks about a "Capable Wife". You wouldn't believe the things that these so-called repressed women were allowed to do! They owned land! They did business! They were teachers! And More! Maybe if they read Mathew 19:3-9 they would find out that the provisions the Jews had for marrying more then one wife, divorce, etc. was "out of regard for [their] hardheartedness". I could go on and on. Wow... I can't believe I've read and studied the bible all these years and I haven't come to the conclusion that God is a barbaric, inhumane, sonofabitch... I think I'll read it again to make sure I'm not missing something... You want to make up your own morals instead of following God's? You want to be able to say "I don't believe that!" when someone points out something you are doing wrong? FINE! But don't think for one minute that you can take the example of all the people who have committed atrocities in Gods name, or misapplied scripture, or twisted it to fit their own agenda (and there are millions of them, including the author of that "Quiz"), and use them to dismiss the bibles message, as if it's God's fault. Talk about uneducated. It makes me sick...
Make sure that you set X's "nice" value to 0. Some distros set it to something like -10 so that X is not disturbed by other procs. Under 2.4, this was a good thing. However, under 2.6, with it's superior scheduler, the kernel will keep interrupting X and you will see lagging performance. Google for it to get a better explanation.
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Those children were being extremely disrespectful to someone who was sent by God, by extention to God himself, and they did not do it ignorantly. Their parrents did nothing to control them. Remember, they "came out from the city". Do you think their parents didn't know? The death of their own children lies on their heads. Besides that, the entire event is only recorded in 2 verses. More then likely there is much more to the story. However, thats irrelevant. The point was made. You can not be disrespectful to God or those sent in his name without repercussions. If God sees fit to, he will reserect those children when the time comes.
1'st John 4:8: "God is love". I'm sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. You assume that living forever is miserable becouse this world full of evil and imperfect humans is miserable. You also assume that God is miserable, and created humans (and as extention all life, including angels) to share his misery. The fact is, that God is complete in himself. He does not need anyone else around to make him happy. His modivation for creating is love. He wishes to share existance with others out of love.
You could spend a current lifetime studing one species of flower and still not know everything about it. Living forever we would be able to learn about Gods creation and never run out of new things. And, if after a few billon years we do learn everything there is to know about our world, or our plane of existance, God would undoubtedly create more things for us to learn about. Why would he do that for us? Simple. "God is love". The oportunities are endless.
If God wished to see into the future, he could have. However, that does not mean that he always does. Thats like saying that becouse I am the best opera singer in the world that every word that comes out of my mouth is sung as an opera.
The original design of mankind is laid out in the bible. God does not give up on his plans so easily. In time, when all the issues have been settled, his original plan will be realised and this situation can never happen again, since his name will be vindicated and anyone else who rebels against him can be dealt with on the spot. The person responsible for all the suffering we have is Satan. He, like mankind, was created with free will. He was created as a perfect angel, and one of high rank in Gods organization. He let his greed and desire for humans to worship him get the better of him. The entire time from then has been working to straghten out the mess Satan made. Satan brought up issues that could not be dealt with instantly. He chalanged God's right to rule, and claimed that humans, even in their perfect condition, were a flawed design. In order to prove Satan a liar, time was needed. God's son, Jesus, was sent to earth as a perfect Human to prove that mankind was not a flawed design, and to give his perfect human life in exchange for what Adam lost.
No, God is not responsible for evil, or Slashdot.
He knew the gullible bint was going to eat the apple.
Um... no.
God gave mankind the gift of free will so that they could use that free will to obey him and thus show that they loved him as much as he loved them. After all, he did love them enough to give them life. That *one* tree that they were not to eat from was the *only* law that they had. They were perfect, and as such they would make no mistakes. They *chose* to disobey God. They decided they did not want to submit to Gods authority. That one tree was the only way that they had to prove that they were faithful to God. Without it, there would have been no opportunity to do so. They failed.
Of course, this is the same god who told Abraham to sacrifice his only son to Him, and waited until the knife was actually descending to say "Psych!".
This is the same God who actualy went though with letting his own son, who was counted as a decendant of Abraham's son Issac, to die as a criminal and provide a randsom for the perfect life that Adam forfited. The recording of the event was created as a forgleam of what God would give up for mankind. Becouse of his faith and obediance, Abraham is the only person in bible history that is called "Gods Friend" (James 2:23)
Can't the ID folks consider the possibility that evolution is the tool God used to create us? Evolution does not disprove the existence of God.
There is nothing in the bible that says that animals cannot adapt to their enviroment. If that was true, all humans would be the same race unchanged by their enviroment. What is *does* say is that God created all the animals "according to their kinds" (Genisis 1:21,25). This pretty much rules out reptiles evolving into mammals, etc, unless you can find a way to reconsile that. My understanding of the fossal record seems to align itself with those scriptures, i.e., there are explosions of species and changes in those species, but hardly any links between the "kinds".
where exactly did they come from if the planet is in fact only 6000-odd years old?
If you look at the original Hebrew, the word translated "day" in Genesis has the same meaning as if I said "In my fathers day, automobile fuel was 35 cents a gallon". It refers to a time period. The references to "morning" and "evening" are the same. If this was not the case, there would be no way to count the days until the 3rd "day", since thats when the sun and moon became visable on the surface of the earth.
The earth is several billion years old. The universe is much older. Those who think that the bible claims the earth was created in 6 literal days simply have not done enough research on the matter.
Yeah... sure. After all, realizing that the problems are bigger then the rightous minority of humanity can handle means we all just sit back on our collective buttocks.
Wow... you sure have things backwards...
>Are you seriously suggesting that armed rebellion against the government is a right guaranteed by the constitution?
What exactly is a "right"? Your comment seems to suggest that you believe that a "right" is whatever the government allows you to do. How exactly do you protect your "rights" when the government says: "No, you can't do that any more". I know! You can all just sit down and talk about it! Yeah, that will fix the problem. History has shown over and over again that there is only one way to correct the problem of an overly oppressive government.
Also, no, I would not expect any government to say "it's allowed in the constitution so I guess we can't do anything to stop you." any more then the founding fathers expected the British to do. Oppressive governments never do. The fact of the matter is that it would take real work and the sacrifice of a lot of lives to accomplish that. Thats really the problem. People value themselves far more then the greater good or doing the righteous thing. Thats why we are all in the situation we are today, a lack of morality.
And just so you understand my personal position, I don't even own a gun of any kind. I have absolutely no desire to start or join in any "armed rebellion". My hope lies elsewhere when it comes to this worlds problems. This world is beyond hope in my eyes.
Well... lets come full circle, shall we? What happend the last time the people of north america felt like they were being oppressed by their government? Simple. They got their guns and took it out. That's what the 2nd amendment is for, remember?
"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
It's not there so people can protect their property from criminals. It's not there so we can all hunt with them. It's there so the citizens can protect themselves from their own oppressive government. Thats the last resort of our system of checks and balances.
Where the heck do you live? Here in PA the kids all get picked up right at the end of their driveway by a hydrocarbon belching old school bus. Hell, the f'ing thing stops every 30 feet in some places. How the hell could the kids get hit?
Sorry, I must disagree. Diesel engings have already scaled from small portable generators (15hp) to locomotives. Now much smaller and lighter would a diesel enging have to get?
There is Eternal Lands which has a native Linux version as well.
It's interesting to note that Novell is porting SharpDevelop to Mono.
See http://www.monodevelop.com/
...that read the story and went: WTF?!
Probbly..
Dude! Dont worry! *Yours* got on the front page. :)
First, on the grandparent.... LOL. Good joke. I guess you never met one on a road course. .9G's in a corner right off the showroom floor. Also, they have 51/49 weight distrobution.
2nd, to the parent...
C5 'vettes can pull over
Uh... bigots? Where have you been the past 50 years? :D
:P
The Americans call the French pussys and cowards...
The French call the Americans arrogant and, uh, bigots...
You must be french.
BTW: The whole thing is a joke anyway. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Pussy.
And it ends with...
Back in *MY* day, we didn't have no fancy Abacus. We did it in our *Head*! And we likes it that way!
The 2nd amendment was not written to protect citizens from each other. It was written to protect the citizens from their own government should it go awry. :P
They did this because of their experiences with the British government before they had to kick their ass to get their "freedom".
What the hell happened?!
I wish...
No, just an old athlon here. But the question of 64 bit was not brought up. He was talking about a new kernel version breaking nvidia's drivers. I'd like to know whats up with that.
Can you please elaborate on this statement?
I'm running 2.6.5 right with Nvidia's drivers on my debian system. I'm having no problems whatsoever. What kernel release are you talking about?
You still don't get it. If what I have, which the bible defines as faith, is different then what an online dictionary says it is, then maybe the online dictionary should change it's definition. I'm pretty sure the bible defined it first.
faith is complete belief in something without question with NO EVIDENCE.
Um.... no.
Hebrews 11:1
Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.
Much like the wind, "evident demonstration" is given and expectations assured by observing the effects.
Also, I looked at the quiz. What a pile of uneducated crap. Thats an understatement. So many things twisted and mutilated to make it sound as if Gods own commandments are evil. Symbolism taken as reality, and reality taken as symbolism. Several of the "answers" are just plain wrong. As an example, the writer had the audacity to say that Jeph'thah had his daughter sacrificed on the alter, when clearly if you read the passage further you would find that she lived a good long life, and that the daughters of the land would commend her for her devotion from "year to year". She was given to God to serve him. This was the same thing that Han'nah did with her son, Samuel.
(1 Samuel 1:9-28) Imagine that! A *Woman* having the authority to give her son as a servant of God! With all the crap that "Quiz" has about the bible saying that women should be treated as dirt, even...
Maybe the author should have read Proverbs 31:10-31 where it talks about a "Capable Wife". You wouldn't believe the things that these so-called repressed women were allowed to do!
They owned land!
They did business!
They were teachers!
And More!
Maybe if they read Mathew 19:3-9 they would find out that the provisions the Jews had for marrying more then one wife, divorce, etc. was "out of regard for [their] hardheartedness". I could go on and on.
Wow... I can't believe I've read and studied the bible all these years and I haven't come to the conclusion that God is a barbaric, inhumane, sonofabitch...
I think I'll read it again to make sure I'm not missing something...
You want to make up your own morals instead of following God's? You want to be able to say "I don't believe that!" when someone points out something you are doing wrong? FINE! But don't think for one minute that you can take the example of all the people who have committed atrocities in Gods name, or misapplied scripture, or twisted it to fit their own agenda (and there are millions of them, including the author of that "Quiz"), and use them to dismiss the bibles message, as if it's God's fault. Talk about uneducated.
It makes me sick...
He probably meant most abundant in the universe, which would have been a correct, if useless, point.
Make sure that you set X's "nice" value to 0. Some distros set it to something like -10 so that X is not disturbed by other procs. Under 2.4, this was a good thing. However, under 2.6, with it's superior scheduler, the kernel will keep interrupting X and you will see lagging performance. Google for it to get a better explanation.