Everybody knows that, silly. The only question remaining, the only puzzle unsolved, the only reason to go and see that darn thing is: "What kind of horrible death is Jar-Jar Binks gonna die?" Since we have not seen him in Episode IV and later.
Well, you can start by asking the RDB customers. But I guess there is no debate with someone like you. The problem is that you simply thing that this is some form of malice at work. But its just business. And what you suggest has absolutelly no business sense at all.
Just let me give you an example, you have an appartment complex, which you built and its cool and dandy. Someone else built one more at the other side of town. Well, you say, I got some cash, let me buy it. So you do. Now what you suggest is equal to asking the tenants in the other appartment complex to come move into yours, because its cooler. Well, you won't do that, you let them live where they are and you will collect their rent and still go around and fix broken washing machines, because otherwise they won't stay and your cash will stop flowing. You are not going to tell them to tough it up and if they don't like it move to your other appartment complex, since they would just decide they don't want to have anything to do with you.
But as I said, with people who only make up their conspiracy theories its hard to talk business or sense for that matter.
--since we pretty much know that Oracle will kill PeopleSoft's products--
Who moderated this one insightful? Its a bag of bollocks. More than 11 years ago Oracle bought RDB. There are still new versions produced for this product and existing customers serviced. Its not actively marketed, but Oracle didn't force anyone to switch. And thats at the core business, databases.
You have obviously no idea what you talk about. Oracle wants PeopleSoft products, wants the lucrative support contracts and will not endager them by anything so foolish as trying to make PeopleSoft customers switch to anywhere or stop updating PeopleSoft products. If anything, the products will become better and a central focus, just to prove PeopleSoft customers they are welcome.
Almost none of the laid off people were engineers working on the products, its sales, marketing, HR and middle management that gets hit the most.
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S. Thompson
Thats nothing. We just spent three years, trying to purge the whole company of this Clear-*@#$%&. You consider yourself lucky it never got installed. On the other hand, subversion could be hardly called a worthy replacement as much as I wish it would be to the contrary.
I have just two questions on the ClearCase software engineers: "How the @#$% can a database get full?" and "What good for is a version control system, where you need to delete old versions to be able to create new ones?"
In my other life I do tech for a local community theatre group. Folks, anything can happen during a live performance.
Well, in my other life I write software and I tell you, nothing must happen when we go life. There are two reasons, why you don't select Microsoft products for anything mission critical. They will go down and there is nothing you can do about it.
I for one salute our new robot overlords, while the people in Russia have a robot shortage.
Hehe, this is actually quite funny. 'Labor' in russian is 'robota' so talking about Russia and 'robot shortage', in article about 'labor shortage' seems to have double meaning...:)
I think that you just connect government with a class of people. Government is a way in which a society works. Where there is no government, there is no society, just a set of individuals without any rules. There cannot be a communism without government. Although, there is no governing class in a true communism. Which is what you want to say, I believe.
I understand that state by its definition is creating classes. At the very least, the class who belongs and the class who does not. Which is something Marx is inherently against. The problem with Marx's vision is that it does not allow for choice. Everybody has to follow the same rules and live in the communist society, which is one of the reasons, why its highly impractical in that form. So thats why I say that you cannot get rid of the state.
There is always some form of 'government'. It does not necessarily have to be a central government by a small elite. It can be government by 'everyone' in the way Marx envisioned it, but thats a type of government as well. And there will very obviously be a form of state. If nothing else than as defining who belongs into the society and who does not.
I think you are very confused after reading Marx by his terminology and maybe you got lost in the sheer amount of text. Marx is using a lot of terms very liberally, which leads to a lot of misrepresentation by a lot of people, who take these terms literally and then get confused.
Communism is a method of government, what we're talking about here is socialism, the economic theory.
How much I like these know it all, that have no idea and try to "educate" others with this sort of false information. Both socialism and communism are a form of a government. The basic premise of socialism is that everybody voluntarily contributes as much as he can and is rewarded based on his contribution to society. The basic premise of communism is that everybody contributes as much as he can and is rewarded based on his needs by the society.
Now the "communist" governments were never really communist. Communism has never been tried as a form of government expcet for small communities like Hare Krishnas or a revolutionay group called 'Husiti' in the start of 15th century in the Czech Kingdom.
Socialism is the thing that actually has been sort of tried out in the "communist block" and has failed to take place, when the people in power established some form of totalitarian regime under the pretense of socialism. There were some elements of socialism and lots of socialistic laws, like a person had a right to have a job. (Something like right to a fair trial, which in turn he didn't have.)
The economic theory you talk about I would really like to see, there was no theory per se. At least, nothing that would be really followed. That was one of the reasons for the economic collapse of the eastern block, together with total ignorance and incompetence of the people in power.
The other possibility is that it was a stupid, stupid person who wasn't really thinking about the consequences of what they were doing at the time and there was no premeditated intent to cause a plane to crash. If that is the case, I think 25 years is a bit extreme.
I don't think so. I am a big supporter of Darwinism. On the other hand, I might let him off with just vasectomy and giving up rights to be a legal guardian (parent/teacher) for anybody from now on. I mean, if you want to use the "I'm so stupid" defense in court, you should only be allowed so on the condition that you won't try to propagate this kind of condition to next generations.
I installed my Debian in 1996, almost nine years ago. Since then I exchanged three computers and five harddisks under it and its still running without any need to reinstall. It went smoothly through several major and minor OS updates like a charm.
As a side note, I'd really like to see someone try to do this with Windows. Upgrading from 95 to 98 to 2k to XP and replacing HDs, CPUs and MBs under that system, while not having to reinstall all your applications and redo all the settings.
Well, this is possible in a small company and they hire a very small percent of H1b. The point is that when someone discovers this or even if you send anonymous letter to US DOL, this company will lose the ability to hire H1b for at least 5 years.
I work for a company with almost 55,000 employees. There are over 5000 of them on H1b visa. If we lost the ability to hire H1b, it would harm the company in very tangible way. The procedures to advertise jobs and hire H1b are very rigorous, the law part is handled by external law firm that does just immigration for us.
The assertion that most of the H1b positions are filled the way you describe is clearly ridiculous. Most of them are hired by companies like Cisco, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, CA, HPQ and others that cannot afford to have shady practices.
Yeah, I took a very good look at the law and I have actually read it and more than just the letter h of the respective paragraph. Its *not* illegal. It explicitely states in the law that H1 visa is a dual status visa and that you can obtain it with the intent to immigrate.
The prefered process for skilled workers to immigrate to US is to obtain labor certification and H1b visa first, then after 6 months of stay apply for a state and then federal labor certification for an employer sponsored green card. Once that is approved (which means there were at least two market studies done at the point to prove you are not "stealing" jobs someone else could do), only then you can apply on I-485 for permanent residency.
Its not true. H1b visa is both immigrant and non-immigrant visa. You can get H1b with the intent to immigrate and most H1b holders get green cards and stay in US. Its actually the prefered (by US immigration officials) way for skilled workers to immigrate to US.
This simply is not true. H1b visa is by definiton both immigrant and non-immigrant visa. In the sense that you can obtain this visa with the intent to immigrate to the US and most people on H1b get green cards and eventually stay in US.
I don't get this. In US by studying math, you are some kind of freak and all these jokes here on slashdot are kind of out of whack. In Czech Republic on the math department of Charles University there are very different jokes. One runs like this:
What does a math student think about when he sees a red balooon?
You said to correct you if you are wrong, which I am doing here. Oracle is interested in extremly profitable support contracts on PeopleSoft software. All the speculations about killing PeopleSoft make no sense. The merger will cause Oracle to get all the benefits and almost none of the costs from these support contracts. They were what fed the PS marketing and sales droids. Oracle will slash these and make a huge profit. Not promoting or activelly selling new licenses is what Oracle intends, but passive sales (initiated by Customers) and support contracts will go on, since they increase Oracle bottom line by over 17%.
When Oracle first announced it was to acquire PeopleSoft, it said it would close it down.
This is one of the widely curculated lies about the whole case. At no time did Oracle say that it will do that. What happened is that right after the bid, so called journalists started to speculate that Oracle would do that and portrayed these speculations as something Oracle said. Right the next week these were refuted by a reiteration from Oracle that the company would continue development of PeopleSoft products and support them for at least a period of 10 years. But the PR damage was already done.
You were pretty bad stock analyst when you still spread around these half truths. I knew there was a reason I generally don't trust "analysts". But there are still people who will mod you informative, even when spreading half truths.
So, what's it like to be from a nation on its way up, but envying a nation on its way down?
Who said we envy them? The government has its issues... well its a czech nature to undervalue your own achievements. By being openly self-confident you will be considered boasting, no matter whether you can stand behind your claims or not. So I kind of get where its comming from. And, by the way, it might not have been a school to get your collegues ready for life.:)
I don't think czechs really envy US that much. From my experience with czechs living abroad, if there is any envy, it stops right when you come to live in US and find out how things are. Then it usually turns in pity and understanding.
For example, I have been outraged over the fact that you get out of university and have some 10 days of vacation. But then I learned by then you are at least 100,000 USD in debt so I guess its only fair you work your butt off. Anyway, how would you want to pay for a trip anywhere with so much debt already? I always laugh when someone tells me that slavery was abolished in US soon after civil war. So I answer: "The last one or the comming one?"
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Everybody knows that, silly. The only question remaining, the only puzzle unsolved, the only reason to go and see that darn thing is: "What kind of horrible death is Jar-Jar Binks gonna die?" Since we have not seen him in Episode IV and later.
Well, you can start by asking the RDB customers. But I guess there is no debate with someone like you. The problem is that you simply thing that this is some form of malice at work. But its just business. And what you suggest has absolutelly no business sense at all.
Just let me give you an example, you have an appartment complex, which you built and its cool and dandy. Someone else built one more at the other side of town. Well, you say, I got some cash, let me buy it. So you do. Now what you suggest is equal to asking the tenants in the other appartment complex to come move into yours, because its cooler. Well, you won't do that, you let them live where they are and you will collect their rent and still go around and fix broken washing machines, because otherwise they won't stay and your cash will stop flowing. You are not going to tell them to tough it up and if they don't like it move to your other appartment complex, since they would just decide they don't want to have anything to do with you.
But as I said, with people who only make up their conspiracy theories its hard to talk business or sense for that matter.
You have obviously no idea what you talk about. Oracle wants PeopleSoft products, wants the lucrative support contracts and will not endager them by anything so foolish as trying to make PeopleSoft customers switch to anywhere or stop updating PeopleSoft products. If anything, the products will become better and a central focus, just to prove PeopleSoft customers they are welcome.
Almost none of the laid off people were engineers working on the products, its sales, marketing, HR and middle management that gets hit the most.
I have just one question, will it play World of Warcraft?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S. Thompson
I have just two questions on the ClearCase software engineers: "How the @#$% can a database get full?" and "What good for is a version control system, where you need to delete old versions to be able to create new ones?"
Well, in my other life I write software and I tell you, nothing must happen when we go life. There are two reasons, why you don't select Microsoft products for anything mission critical. They will go down and there is nothing you can do about it.
Hehe, this is actually quite funny. 'Labor' in russian is 'robota' so talking about Russia and 'robot shortage', in article about 'labor shortage' seems to have double meaning... :)
I understand that state by its definition is creating classes. At the very least, the class who belongs and the class who does not. Which is something Marx is inherently against. The problem with Marx's vision is that it does not allow for choice. Everybody has to follow the same rules and live in the communist society, which is one of the reasons, why its highly impractical in that form. So thats why I say that you cannot get rid of the state.
I think you are very confused after reading Marx by his terminology and maybe you got lost in the sheer amount of text. Marx is using a lot of terms very liberally, which leads to a lot of misrepresentation by a lot of people, who take these terms literally and then get confused.
How much I like these know it all, that have no idea and try to "educate" others with this sort of false information. Both socialism and communism are a form of a government. The basic premise of socialism is that everybody voluntarily contributes as much as he can and is rewarded based on his contribution to society. The basic premise of communism is that everybody contributes as much as he can and is rewarded based on his needs by the society.
Now the "communist" governments were never really communist. Communism has never been tried as a form of government expcet for small communities like Hare Krishnas or a revolutionay group called 'Husiti' in the start of 15th century in the Czech Kingdom.
Socialism is the thing that actually has been sort of tried out in the "communist block" and has failed to take place, when the people in power established some form of totalitarian regime under the pretense of socialism. There were some elements of socialism and lots of socialistic laws, like a person had a right to have a job. (Something like right to a fair trial, which in turn he didn't have.)
The economic theory you talk about I would really like to see, there was no theory per se. At least, nothing that would be really followed. That was one of the reasons for the economic collapse of the eastern block, together with total ignorance and incompetence of the people in power.
The other possibility is that it was a stupid, stupid person who wasn't really thinking about the consequences of what they were doing at the time and there was no premeditated intent to cause a plane to crash. If that is the case, I think 25 years is a bit extreme. I don't think so. I am a big supporter of Darwinism. On the other hand, I might let him off with just vasectomy and giving up rights to be a legal guardian (parent/teacher) for anybody from now on. I mean, if you want to use the "I'm so stupid" defense in court, you should only be allowed so on the condition that you won't try to propagate this kind of condition to next generations.
As a side note, I'd really like to see someone try to do this with Windows. Upgrading from 95 to 98 to 2k to XP and replacing HDs, CPUs and MBs under that system, while not having to reinstall all your applications and redo all the settings.
Your trolling is pointless. I told him all the useless information there is, if you failed to notice :) Keep your moralizing for someone else, please.
I work for a company with almost 55,000 employees. There are over 5000 of them on H1b visa. If we lost the ability to hire H1b, it would harm the company in very tangible way. The procedures to advertise jobs and hire H1b are very rigorous, the law part is handled by external law firm that does just immigration for us.
The assertion that most of the H1b positions are filled the way you describe is clearly ridiculous. Most of them are hired by companies like Cisco, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, CA, HPQ and others that cannot afford to have shady practices.
The prefered process for skilled workers to immigrate to US is to obtain labor certification and H1b visa first, then after 6 months of stay apply for a state and then federal labor certification for an employer sponsored green card. Once that is approved (which means there were at least two market studies done at the point to prove you are not "stealing" jobs someone else could do), only then you can apply on I-485 for permanent residency.
Hey, I am on H1b (though not from India) and the way I see it, and by the amount of work I do, I stole at least four jobs :))
So MOD PARENT DOWN :)
This simply is not true. H1b visa is by definiton both immigrant and non-immigrant visa. In the sense that you can obtain this visa with the intent to immigrate to the US and most people on H1b get green cards and eventually stay in US.
Of course, that allowed him to justify all the fighting and exactly for this type of lies he has been sacked as CEO of PeopleSoft.
You said to correct you if you are wrong, which I am doing here. Oracle is interested in extremly profitable support contracts on PeopleSoft software. All the speculations about killing PeopleSoft make no sense. The merger will cause Oracle to get all the benefits and almost none of the costs from these support contracts. They were what fed the PS marketing and sales droids. Oracle will slash these and make a huge profit. Not promoting or activelly selling new licenses is what Oracle intends, but passive sales (initiated by Customers) and support contracts will go on, since they increase Oracle bottom line by over 17%.
This is one of the widely curculated lies about the whole case. At no time did Oracle say that it will do that. What happened is that right after the bid, so called journalists started to speculate that Oracle would do that and portrayed these speculations as something Oracle said. Right the next week these were refuted by a reiteration from Oracle that the company would continue development of PeopleSoft products and support them for at least a period of 10 years. But the PR damage was already done.
You were pretty bad stock analyst when you still spread around these half truths. I knew there was a reason I generally don't trust "analysts". But there are still people who will mod you informative, even when spreading half truths.
Who said we envy them? The government has its issues... well its a czech nature to undervalue your own achievements. By being openly self-confident you will be considered boasting, no matter whether you can stand behind your claims or not. So I kind of get where its comming from. And, by the way, it might not have been a school to get your collegues ready for life. :)
I don't think czechs really envy US that much. From my experience with czechs living abroad, if there is any envy, it stops right when you come to live in US and find out how things are. Then it usually turns in pity and understanding.
For example, I have been outraged over the fact that you get out of university and have some 10 days of vacation. But then I learned by then you are at least 100,000 USD in debt so I guess its only fair you work your butt off. Anyway, how would you want to pay for a trip anywhere with so much debt already? I always laugh when someone tells me that slavery was abolished in US soon after civil war. So I answer: "The last one or the comming one?"