If subordinates could have done anything more to prevent this, and it would have been at all reasonable to expect them to realize this before the fact, then hell yes they should be blamed for part of this, as with the managers.
The subordinates most likely could have done more. So could the managers. Noone involved is blameless in this tragedy.
Why does it not surprise me that a minion of the Dark Lord Satan, John Rowland, would entangle the people of the Light in such an evil plan.
I feel the brimstone fires building, hell is upon us and nothing can stop it. The Antichrist shall not arise from Rome, but from Hartford. We are finished, the time of Revelation is at hand and soon the line of Popes shall end and the Lord Jesus shall return to Earth in Power and Glory to take his own to Heaven.
CT is probably in it... One, Rowland I can't remember what he does, but he does something with the Homeland Security Department, and he's so well known for being a dishonet bastard that UK newspapers have run articles about his corruption scandal.
I know I'm already in dozens of databases, so I don't really care on a personal level, but I knew I was giving up privacy when I applied for my clearance... but the rest of you... this is just fucking wrong.
SCO is right on that actually. If they inadvertently distributed their own code, or an SCO programmer intentionally put it in without getting the proper approvals from his supervisor, then the code is not under the GPL.
However, the proper response would be to notify Linus(in his capacity as head kernel guy) about the mistake and tell him what he needs to remove. The fact that they have not done that, might be taken as permission for it to be there, in which case they damn well better hope that a judge declares the GPL invalid and all the kernel belongs to SCO as a derivative work or they are, in a word, FUCKED.
To the leadership of a company, virtually nothing is about good vs evil, only profit vs loss.
The case against SCO when it comes to a companies IT decisions must be made on that basis. Either show why SCO is wrong and Linux is not a potential loss, or that the potential profit from using Linux is greater than the potential loss if SCO is right. If you *must* involve moral issues, do so in the framework of how much goodwill(and therefore, new customers) making a pro linux stand will gain them.
If you work for a company that has the courage to make a moral stand apart from the balance sheet, great. But most companies only care about maximizing profits, therefore arguments to them must be presented from that point of view.
Umm, a case could be made that Sauron was an evil wizard, in fact THE evil wizard, Saruman merely being an assistant.
Sauron, the balrog, the Dragons, and the Istari(aka the Wizards- Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast ad the other two) were all the same sort of being(Maia- think standard Christian Angel). Sauron was in the past the right hand of Morgoth(might be remembering name wrong- but think fallen Archangel ie Satan). While in that position, he functioned in a manner similar to the later Istari(Wizards), though for the side of evil rather than good.
Also, there are references in LOTR to the Istari taking down a Necromancer near Mirkwood Forest. That necromancer is clearly stated to have been Sauron. While "necromancer" technically means just "speaker with the dead", the word is often used in fantasy literature to denote a generic evil wizard.
So yes, Sauron was an evil wizard. Both by the way 'wizard' was used in the context of Middle Earth and the way 'necromancer' is used in fantasy literature in general.
Or that it was Frodo that was fighting Sauron. Bilbo was a critical figure in the eventual defeat of Sauron, but only in getting the Ring to someone who could do something about it(being completely unaware of its significance at the time)
Actually, they'd probably charge less. "Look at this! new, cheaper electronic textbook!" *ad cuts to student throwing books in the trash bin, picking up a CD and smiling at the camera*
An advertisement like that, lower prices- they would still get more profits and trick the students into thinking they are getting a better deal or that the companies are actually kind.
The owners however, without the benefit of crumple zones, would be a different story
Really? If I still had the pics of my Gran Furys front end(what was left of it), I'd post them, mention that the impact was at 65 MPH into a guardrail post, and I walked away without a scratch. One person who saw the impact site was shocked I had survived- it was a hard, messy crash. And the car was driveable, but it would be silly to spend 2k or more to replace the body panels on a car that was only worth 1200 even in mint condition.
I do agree with the seatbelt comment. If I hadn't been wearing it, I would not have survived, plain and simple. Half a second is all it takes to turn a tragedy into a simple inconvenience.
We cheer this one. We tolerate the one that knocks MS off the net for a day. We cheer the one that causes a catastrophic detonation of Darls computer.
This one worm won't kill OSS or cause a huge image problem, I agree with that. But if this guy gets mad love for doign this, he or another is likely to go for getting credit by doing something similar to another favorite OSS enemy. The effect of multiple incidents like this, with the Free Software and Open Source Software movements cheering them on, however, will lead to a public relations issue because we will have shown we *consistently* condone such activities. We cannot condone *any* activity of this sort in the community, regardless of target.
Its one thing to crack a few jokes about it, but blatant praise could lead to trouble.
But come on, DDos'ing one of our own? Who has a beef with Bruce? Own up to it now and the beating will only be very painful rather than extremely painful.
Try killing an American car. The newer ones I don't know, but the mid to late 80s, those things could survive crashes you wouldn't believe, and could survive frighteningly negligent owners. 20k without an oil change? Sheet metal body panels torn off? I've seen american cars survive collisions in perfectly driveable shape where foreign cars in similar crashes can't be called cars anymore- just scrap metal.
My mom had a Plymouth Reliant. She had the rear end practically torn off in a collision. Went over 20,000 miles without changing the oil. Never changed it at less than 7k. The frame got bent in the final collision.
The car still ran. Those things might not have been the best, but it took A LOT to kill one. She must have had at least five crashes with it, and maintenance was an afterthought at best. She would have kept it(as it did run, and even handled ok) if Allstate hadn't told her to go to hell when she asked if she could keep it insured after the frame got bent(which took her being hit in the side and pushed into a telephone poll to crunch the frame)
9/11 wasn't about intimidating or coercing a civilian population? Maybe if it was one nutjob that took over one plane, but 18 people making a brilliantly coordinated strike? What the hell have you been smoking?
Ok, here it is. I start a terrorist group because I think cigarettes are too expensive. We have violent raids. Kill people, steal money, cigarettes, guns. Real nasties.
A lawyer comes. Offers to help us lobby for reduced taxes. Shows us the ways to legally get around the taxes. Shows us how to roll our own to save money.
We see, after all our violence doesn't do squat, that peaceful means can actually work. We'd stop bothering with all the weapons stockpiles, and take public speaking classes and talk to lobbyists when we have problems with a law.
Under the Patriot act before this ruling, that lawyer would be banned from helping us, and if he chose to follow the law, our reign of terror would go on and on. We wouldn't learn, and more people would die.
That applies to accusing the other side in a debate of acting like Nazis. I was not doing that. I was making a statement that even the most evil people have some virtues. Hitler happens to be an excellent example of that principle. Incredibly evil, but there were some clear, even admirable, virtues in his character.
Godwins law does not apply to using Nazis as an example, only to accusations of Nazi like behavior.
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If subordinates could have done anything more to prevent this, and it would have been at all reasonable to expect them to realize this before the fact, then hell yes they should be blamed for part of this, as with the managers.
The subordinates most likely could have done more. So could the managers. Noone involved is blameless in this tragedy.
It does have some similarity- it does give you the capabilities of VMWare, at a significant performance cost anyways.
Why does it not surprise me that a minion of the Dark Lord Satan, John Rowland, would entangle the people of the Light in such an evil plan.
I feel the brimstone fires building, hell is upon us and nothing can stop it. The Antichrist shall not arise from Rome, but from Hartford. We are finished, the time of Revelation is at hand and soon the line of Popes shall end and the Lord Jesus shall return to Earth in Power and Glory to take his own to Heaven.
(religious references to mark post #666)
CT is probably in it... One, Rowland I can't remember what he does, but he does something with the Homeland Security Department, and he's so well known for being a dishonet bastard that UK newspapers have run articles about his corruption scandal.
I know I'm already in dozens of databases, so I don't really care on a personal level, but I knew I was giving up privacy when I applied for my clearance... but the rest of you... this is just fucking wrong.
SCO is right on that actually. If they inadvertently distributed their own code, or an SCO programmer intentionally put it in without getting the proper approvals from his supervisor, then the code is not under the GPL.
However, the proper response would be to notify Linus(in his capacity as head kernel guy) about the mistake and tell him what he needs to remove. The fact that they have not done that, might be taken as permission for it to be there, in which case they damn well better hope that a judge declares the GPL invalid and all the kernel belongs to SCO as a derivative work or they are, in a word, FUCKED.
To the leadership of a company, virtually nothing is about good vs evil, only profit vs loss.
The case against SCO when it comes to a companies IT decisions must be made on that basis. Either show why SCO is wrong and Linux is not a potential loss, or that the potential profit from using Linux is greater than the potential loss if SCO is right. If you *must* involve moral issues, do so in the framework of how much goodwill(and therefore, new customers) making a pro linux stand will gain them.
If you work for a company that has the courage to make a moral stand apart from the balance sheet, great. But most companies only care about maximizing profits, therefore arguments to them must be presented from that point of view.
Umm, a case could be made that Sauron was an evil wizard, in fact THE evil wizard, Saruman merely being an assistant.
Sauron, the balrog, the Dragons, and the Istari(aka the Wizards- Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast ad the other two) were all the same sort of being(Maia- think standard Christian Angel). Sauron was in the past the right hand of Morgoth(might be remembering name wrong- but think fallen Archangel ie Satan). While in that position, he functioned in a manner similar to the later Istari(Wizards), though for the side of evil rather than good.
Also, there are references in LOTR to the Istari taking down a Necromancer near Mirkwood Forest. That necromancer is clearly stated to have been Sauron. While "necromancer" technically means just "speaker with the dead", the word is often used in fantasy literature to denote a generic evil wizard.
So yes, Sauron was an evil wizard. Both by the way 'wizard' was used in the context of Middle Earth and the way 'necromancer' is used in fantasy literature in general.
Or that it was Frodo that was fighting Sauron. Bilbo was a critical figure in the eventual defeat of Sauron, but only in getting the Ring to someone who could do something about it(being completely unaware of its significance at the time)
I did too.
Of course, my tuition is waived anyways... so I woulnd't pay anything anyways.
Actually, they'd probably charge less. "Look at this! new, cheaper electronic textbook!" *ad cuts to student throwing books in the trash bin, picking up a CD and smiling at the camera*
An advertisement like that, lower prices- they would still get more profits and trick the students into thinking they are getting a better deal or that the companies are actually kind.
One of my CS classes requires a packet of four textbooks.
The class has only met once so far, and I've already found errors in two of them. Going to be a fun semester.
I think she did a good job- she got thrown a curveball and just rolled with it.
IIRC NYT thinks I live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. So does Scientology.
I did that once. a Magic The Gathering card listed as German, it was actually French.
But fuck it I need money I think I might try this...
She hasn't had an accident since around 92. And she drives a lot more now than she did then.
ME however, I've had two accidents over the course of a year. One due to snow + fatigue.. other was ice.
I avoid driving if at all possible in winter weather now.
The owners however, without the benefit of crumple zones, would be a different story
Really? If I still had the pics of my Gran Furys front end(what was left of it), I'd post them, mention that the impact was at 65 MPH into a guardrail post, and I walked away without a scratch. One person who saw the impact site was shocked I had survived- it was a hard, messy crash. And the car was driveable, but it would be silly to spend 2k or more to replace the body panels on a car that was only worth 1200 even in mint condition.
I do agree with the seatbelt comment. If I hadn't been wearing it, I would not have survived, plain and simple. Half a second is all it takes to turn a tragedy into a simple inconvenience.
We cheer this one. We tolerate the one that knocks MS off the net for a day. We cheer the one that causes a catastrophic detonation of Darls computer.
This one worm won't kill OSS or cause a huge image problem, I agree with that. But if this guy gets mad love for doign this, he or another is likely to go for getting credit by doing something similar to another favorite OSS enemy. The effect of multiple incidents like this, with the Free Software and Open Source Software movements cheering them on, however, will lead to a public relations issue because we will have shown we *consistently* condone such activities. We cannot condone *any* activity of this sort in the community, regardless of target.
Its one thing to crack a few jokes about it, but blatant praise could lead to trouble.
But come on, DDos'ing one of our own? Who has a beef with Bruce? Own up to it now and the beating will only be very painful rather than extremely painful.
They arguably deserve such a thing. But... it doens't reflect well on the community.
I've turned off my active protection!
Try killing an American car. The newer ones I don't know, but the mid to late 80s, those things could survive crashes you wouldn't believe, and could survive frighteningly negligent owners. 20k without an oil change? Sheet metal body panels torn off? I've seen american cars survive collisions in perfectly driveable shape where foreign cars in similar crashes can't be called cars anymore- just scrap metal.
My mom had a Plymouth Reliant. She had the rear end practically torn off in a collision. Went over 20,000 miles without changing the oil. Never changed it at less than 7k. The frame got bent in the final collision.
The car still ran. Those things might not have been the best, but it took A LOT to kill one. She must have had at least five crashes with it, and maintenance was an afterthought at best. She would have kept it(as it did run, and even handled ok) if Allstate hadn't told her to go to hell when she asked if she could keep it insured after the frame got bent(which took her being hit in the side and pushed into a telephone poll to crunch the frame)
9/11 wasn't about intimidating or coercing a civilian population? Maybe if it was one nutjob that took over one plane, but 18 people making a brilliantly coordinated strike? What the hell have you been smoking?
Ok, here it is. I start a terrorist group because I think cigarettes are too expensive. We have violent raids. Kill people, steal money, cigarettes, guns. Real nasties.
A lawyer comes. Offers to help us lobby for reduced taxes. Shows us the ways to legally get around the taxes. Shows us how to roll our own to save money.
We see, after all our violence doesn't do squat, that peaceful means can actually work. We'd stop bothering with all the weapons stockpiles, and take public speaking classes and talk to lobbyists when we have problems with a law.
Under the Patriot act before this ruling, that lawyer would be banned from helping us, and if he chose to follow the law, our reign of terror would go on and on. We wouldn't learn, and more people would die.
That applies to accusing the other side in a debate of acting like Nazis. I was not doing that. I was making a statement that even the most evil people have some virtues. Hitler happens to be an excellent example of that principle. Incredibly evil, but there were some clear, even admirable, virtues in his character.
Godwins law does not apply to using Nazis as an example, only to accusations of Nazi like behavior.