The iTunes bug was a broken shell script; this is a bug in some obscure, not-very-often-modified C code in the core of the Linux kernel... there's a big difference.
You bet there was a difference...the Apple bug was only triggered under very specific circumstances (involving not following explicit directions to delete the old version first) while the kernel bug would have affected every single user who installed the kernel and did a shutdown/reboot. Which sounds more severe to you? Not that either of them are OK. Both groups acted quickly to fix the bugs, which is good.
Unfortunately the courts have upheld this policy. Mostly since it is stated in more than a dozen places in each store... While I worked at that store corporate sent out a notice about how it had one a case in another state... In that case a couple of parents went off kilter about their child purchasing a 'Parental Advisery' labeled CD from the company & when they went to return it they were told "We don't do that.". Well they took the company to court & lost... DOn't ask me how, but they did...
Because from what you've said, in that example the CD was labeled correctly (with the Parental Advisory sticker), but in this case, the CD is incorrectly labeled as being a CD Audio disc, when in fact it doesn't comply with the CD Audio standard.
Yes, they did but they and their ancestors never hesitated to include references to God in the very constitution you are referring to.
There are no references to God in the US constitution. I just read it and all 27 amendments. Maybe you can point out which part of the US constitution references God.
also, i think sending nuclear waste into the sun would cause some problems, wouldn't it? raising the temp and
whatnot? not sure, just seems like it would. maybe we could store the stuff on the moon or something
though.
You're joking, right? The surface of the sun (photosphere) is 6000 degrees K. That's goddamn hot. The core is estimated to be 15,000,000 degrees K.
That, my friend, is a metric shitload of hot. Bottom line is, the sun wouldn't give two shits about anything we drop on it.
The problem you have with getting nuclear waste to the sun is that you can have an accident during launch/accent, possibly spewing lots of really nasty radioactive crap over a wide area.
I've got a G4, 512 MB RAM with all the fixin's and OS 9. It gathers dust.
On the other side of the room is a Pentium 300 system with 128 MB running Redhat 6.2. It is my daily desktop.
The G4, with it's hockey puck, God Aweful, one-eyed mouse and positively horrible keyboard, guarantee it won't get used. No need to even get down to the idiot MacOS (I'm sorry, I have to tell the OS how much memory to give an application when I have 400 MB free? WHAT?).
The only good things about the Mac these days is one can run Linux on it.
Since that G4 isn't being used, why don't you sell it to me?
Actually, where I work, we've bought 4 Dell 2450's and 2 2550's preloaded with Linux so far. Granted, I still rebuild it from scratch... Aside from preferring to install it myself, they also won't set it up as a Raid10 from the factory.
You can't trust Dell to do what you ask in any case. Where I work we're about half-and-half MacOS and Windows with our lone unix server (MacOS X Server) handling most of our intranet server needs (we're not a big shop.) I order all our Windows machines from Dell. When we were using NT, I would always specify "Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 5 on NTFS". What did I always get? A two-partition setup: partition 1, with the OS on it, was always FAT and partition 2, which usually had some apps like office, was NTFS. A lot of good this does me. The first time this happened I actually (naive, oh so naive) called Dell and told them they had obviously done it wrong. I explained that what I expected to get was one partition using NTFS that spanned the entire disk. They responded, of course, that they couldn't do that, as NT 4.0 SP1 (which is what the boot CDROM that came with the computer was) couldn't make NTFS partitions larger than 2GB, you needed to have NT 4.0 SP3 or higher installed to do that. No matter, I always reformat & do it myself anyway.
Now that I order new Windows machines with Win2000 Pro on them, always specifying "Windows 2000 Pro on NTFS", expecting that we would get a machine with a single NTFS partition, what do we get? FAT32, thank you very much. Oh well, I always reformat anyway, to get rid of the extra cruft Dell installs.
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How long did it take them to realize that AppleTalk (a very, very "chatty" protocol) wasn't going to fly and that they should support TCP/IP?
AppleTalk hasn't been "very very chatty" for a long time. AppleTalk Phase 2 took care of that. See this page for details. Here is a story, this time with a bit of humor. Yet another source of info.
Technological countermeasures? What the ring-tailed-rambling fuck is Graceless smoking, and can I have some?
Prediction: Roxio asks the judge to throw it out as a frivolous lawsuit, and he does...
Fervent hope:...but not before bitch-slapping Graceless into the next millennium with punitive damages. This suit isn't merely frivolous, it's malicious. Were I the judge, I'd do as much research as possible to see if I could also add words like "barratry", "malicious", and "RICO" into said millennial bitchslap, and I'd tell Graceless to get the fuck out of my courtroom and never come back until they'd acquired some clue, to say nothing of some manners.
I'd go a step further: I'd instruct my bailiff(s) to chase the plaintiff and their lawyers out of the room, out of the courthouse, and down the street, hitting them over the head all the while with the largest dildo I could find. Maybe it's just me, but that seems fair.
a large AppleTalk network, and to be honest, I don't think that I've ever seen an Appletalk network that was more than 20-25 Mac's.
Pfft. Heh. That's because any more than that is enough to completely saturate fast ethernet.
You're completely talking out your ass. I have an network (shared 10baseT, not even fast ethernet) with 24 Macs and 5 printers. It used to have 35 Macs and 5 printers. Even with 39 AppleTalk devices on the network, I still got around 1 meg per second transfering files to & from our file server (PowerMac G3/233 running Mac OS X Server 1.02) If what you say were true, I wouldn't have had a transfer rate anywhere near that fast.
I wish that SDMI would follow through with their threat and pursue Princeton University and the United States Navy in court to suppress publication of an academic paper. These parties have the resources to mount an aggressive defense, and the case would set a precedent that would significantly weaken the DMCA.
Heh heh....I can see it now:
SEAL Team four, your mission is to mount an 'aggressive defense' of the US Navy against the SDMI. The gloves are off on this one gentlemen. As you know, any operation where the opposition employs lawyers releases us from the standard rules of engagement.
I was trying to think of a polite way to say this, but: you, sir, are a fucking idiot.
Well, if you use my special proprietary compression codec, which allows you get reach 100Mbps over common modem lines, then you could view the pdf on your computer without downloading it. No, really, you can, because of the speed. Because, you see, it's really fast.
...that a hotdog Chinese pilot crashed into our airplane. The US plane carries a $1000 deductible insurance policy, so the lawyers for our insurance carrier will be in contact with you. I suggest you pay the requested amount, as failure to do so will result in more lawyers, something the US has an infinite supply of.
The clone makers were outselling AND underpricing Apple. They were making the same or better machines and selling them for less and the users loved it. An illustrator I worked with still has a Power Computing G3 and he says it runs quite a bit more reliably than the Apple G3 he has sitting right next to it AND was cheaper.
Power Computing never made a G3 machine. The highest they went was PPC 604e. I've owned two Power Computing machines. Both still working today. However, I have some rather annoying problems with a couple of Power Computing Power Center Pro 210s (210 MHz 604e) at work (running 9.0.4 and 9.1). They just seem to lock up every once in a while. I have this theory that the motherboard and/or components are just different enough from Apple's design that the were based on (7200) that things go strange every once in a while. In contrast, my Apple Blue & White G3 at home running 9.1 is pretty damn stable. It doesn't quite have the uptime my VA Research (remember back in the day when they were VA Research?) RedHat linux box does, but its close. Not to mention that I admin a Mac OS X Server (the pre-Mac OS X one that used to be called Rhapsody) box and I can see that a bunch of our Mac clients have been connected for 28-34 days, which tells me they have been running at least that long with no restarts. Not bad.
have you looked at debian? the last stable release, potato, supports alpha.
if you want cool new stuff, you could even give the testing distribution, aka "woody" a whirl. and if you want a broken, but bleeding-edge system, go install unstable.
I did try Debian 2.2 for a while, but when I tried to compile the kernel and it failed, I gave up and switched back to RedHat. I even tried updgrading to woody, with "apt-get dist-upgrade", but it would fail part way through the procedure, leaving me with a non-working system. I know a lot of this is my fault, because I don't know some of the finer points to Debian (e.g., to cure the not-able-to-compile-the-2.2.18-kernel problem, I probably just needed to install a bunch of packages, but when I tell it to install all packages except for the non-US language ones during install, I damn well expect it to have all that I need to compile stuff), but there seems to be a lack of straight forward documentation explaining how to get the stuff installed that you need for developement. The kernel wasn't the only thing that wasn't compiling either. There were a number of things I tried to build and they wouldn't. I've had no trouble building these very same things under RedHat 7.1beta. That said, I would very much like to be running Debian, as I agree with their political position on free (speech) software. Plus, apt-get makes me hard.
Hi, my name is Jim Allchin and I am a turnip. In spite of being a common garden tuber, I manage to stick my entire head up my ass. I was right in the middle of this when someone interviewed me about linux and open source software, so it is entirely possible that my answers bear no connection to reality. Sorry about that.
Sorry for the OT post, but does anyone have any suggestions for self training that they found particularly effective (O'Reilly books, etc.)?
I've been reading Slashdot for some time (Slashdot ID #1078) and playing about with Linux for something like 3 yrs now. I've never really had lots of time to invest in self training, but recently I've decided to give it a bit more priority. I would appreciate any suggestions (except those that are anatomically impossible) so fire away.
... Though after using a NextStep-derived window manager for a while, I will happily say that saving things to the desktop - one of the things they are putting back IN to OS X is for weak minds, sloppy thinking, poor organization, and folks who spend lots of time and money on tools they are too lazy to understand.
"Where are my files? Where are my aliases? Where is my underwear?" It still amazes me that people think you have to be some kind of computer genius to understand "system files go here, applications go there, documents go here or with the application" and refuse to learn those things after a decade of working with computers. I mean, do they go calling the office manager looking for the stapler because there isn't a note taped on top of the desk telling which drawer it's in? But they have no problem calling tech support and spending half the day screaming that they can't work because some desktop alias to their favorite application got trashed. I guess some of it is age of first exposure to computers, but it's much more fun to pretend that it's all stupidity.
I support about 30-40 users and I've found a good cure for people putting their stuff on the desktop. When I give new users their computer orientation (how to access the file server, which printers to use, etc.) they are all told that they have a "Documents" folder/directory and they must put all their documents in that folder or sub folders or it will not be backed up. Several users choose to ignore this, and I remind them every time they have a problem with their computer and I go to thier office to fix it and see the desktop just packed with documents. I live for the day when something bad happens and they ask me to restore the files. I'll simply tell that that I would be able to do just that, if they had followed the directions I gave them several times. Then I'll just do my best BOFH laugh and leave the room.
Isn't it the first basic law of nature that what DOESN'T "mutate", or rather adapt, will eventually become extinct?
Not so sure about that. If you happen to be perfectly suited to your niche, there is no selection pressure to change. Look at sharks, for example. Essentially unchanged for millions of years. Why? Because they are highly optimized killing machines that swim. They are very, very good at what they do. I'm trying to think of something similar in the tech world....um....pencils?
What's the deal with the event horizon? All the pictures I've seen (admittedly, many from science-fiction) depict a circle, and stuff gets sucked through it like a gate, and funnels downward (so the circle becomes the base of a sort of curvy concave cone shape).
So, why isn't the "event horizon" (a distance from the actual point of the hole) a sphere extending the same radius in all directions?
I'm just guessing here, but could it have something to do with the accretion disk associated with a Kerr (rotating) black hole vs. A Scwartzchild (non-rotating) black hole? Or maybe I have that backwards. In any case, the visible stuff would be the material being sucked in, excited by radiation from the material as it is accelerated. Or something like that. Aren't black holes x-ray sources?
What are you talking about, theft? They bought the company (NeXT) that owned the code they used as a basis for Rhapsody/OS X. As an added bonus, many (as far as I know) of the engineers that worked for NeXT now work at Apple, with Avie Tevanian being being their senior VP of Software Engineering. In fact, it is almost as if Apple became NeXTified, rather than NeXT becoming Appleified.
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You bet there was a difference...the Apple bug was only triggered under very specific circumstances (involving not following explicit directions to delete the old version first) while the kernel bug would have affected every single user who installed the kernel and did a shutdown/reboot. Which sounds more severe to you? Not that either of them are OK. Both groups acted quickly to fix the bugs, which is good.
Because from what you've said, in that example the CD was labeled correctly (with the Parental Advisory sticker), but in this case, the CD is incorrectly labeled as being a CD Audio disc, when in fact it doesn't comply with the CD Audio standard.
I just bought one of the new apple iBooks, which I then proceeded to install debian on.
Don't end your sentence a preposition with.
OK, how's this: I just bought one of the new Apple iBooks, which I then proceeded to install Debian on, asshole.
Better?
Note: this is intended to be humerous.
also, i think sending nuclear waste into the sun would cause some problems, wouldn't it? raising the temp and whatnot? not sure, just seems like it would. maybe we could store the stuff on the moon or something though.
You're joking, right? The surface of the sun (photosphere) is 6000 degrees K. That's goddamn hot. The core is estimated to be 15,000,000 degrees K. That, my friend, is a metric shitload of hot. Bottom line is, the sun wouldn't give two shits about anything we drop on it.
The problem you have with getting nuclear waste to the sun is that you can have an accident during launch/accent, possibly spewing lots of really nasty radioactive crap over a wide area.
Apple = Great Hardware? What planet are you on?
I've got a G4, 512 MB RAM with all the fixin's and OS 9. It gathers dust.
On the other side of the room is a Pentium 300 system with 128 MB running Redhat 6.2. It is my daily desktop.
The G4, with it's hockey puck, God Aweful, one-eyed mouse and positively horrible keyboard, guarantee it won't get used. No need to even get down to the idiot MacOS (I'm sorry, I have to tell the OS how much memory to give an application when I have 400 MB free? WHAT?).
The only good things about the Mac these days is one can run Linux on it.
Since that G4 isn't being used, why don't you sell it to me?
Actually, where I work, we've bought 4 Dell 2450's and 2 2550's preloaded with Linux so far. Granted, I still rebuild it from scratch... Aside from preferring to install it myself, they also won't set it up as a Raid10 from the factory.
You can't trust Dell to do what you ask in any case. Where I work we're about half-and-half MacOS and Windows with our lone unix server (MacOS X Server) handling most of our intranet server needs (we're not a big shop.) I order all our Windows machines from Dell. When we were using NT, I would always specify "Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 5 on NTFS". What did I always get? A two-partition setup: partition 1, with the OS on it, was always FAT and partition 2, which usually had some apps like office, was NTFS. A lot of good this does me. The first time this happened I actually (naive, oh so naive) called Dell and told them they had obviously done it wrong. I explained that what I expected to get was one partition using NTFS that spanned the entire disk. They responded, of course, that they couldn't do that, as NT 4.0 SP1 (which is what the boot CDROM that came with the computer was) couldn't make NTFS partitions larger than 2GB, you needed to have NT 4.0 SP3 or higher installed to do that. No matter, I always reformat & do it myself anyway.
Now that I order new Windows machines with Win2000 Pro on them, always specifying "Windows 2000 Pro on NTFS", expecting that we would get a machine with a single NTFS partition, what do we get? FAT32, thank you very much. Oh well, I always reformat anyway, to get rid of the extra cruft Dell installs.
How long did it take them to realize that AppleTalk (a very, very "chatty" protocol) wasn't going to fly and that they should support TCP/IP?
AppleTalk hasn't been "very very chatty" for a long time. AppleTalk Phase 2 took care of that. See this page for details. Here is a story, this time with a bit of humor. Yet another source of info.
He isn't talking about Classic, he is talking about running them in the MacOS X environment (Carbon/Cocoa).
Technological countermeasures? What the ring-tailed-rambling fuck is Graceless smoking, and can I have some?
Prediction: Roxio asks the judge to throw it out as a frivolous lawsuit, and he does...
Fervent hope: ...but not before bitch-slapping Graceless into the next millennium with punitive damages. This suit isn't merely frivolous, it's malicious. Were I the judge, I'd do as much research as possible to see if I could also add words like "barratry", "malicious", and "RICO" into said millennial bitchslap, and I'd tell Graceless to get the fuck out of my courtroom and never come back until they'd acquired some clue, to say nothing of some manners.
I'd go a step further: I'd instruct my bailiff(s) to chase the plaintiff and their lawyers out of the room, out of the courthouse, and down the street, hitting them over the head all the while with the largest dildo I could find. Maybe it's just me, but that seems fair.
a large AppleTalk network, and to be honest, I don't think that I've ever seen an Appletalk network that was more than 20-25 Mac's.
Pfft. Heh. That's because any more than that is enough to completely saturate fast ethernet.
You're completely talking out your ass. I have an network (shared 10baseT, not even fast ethernet) with 24 Macs and 5 printers. It used to have 35 Macs and 5 printers. Even with 39 AppleTalk devices on the network, I still got around 1 meg per second transfering files to & from our file server (PowerMac G3/233 running Mac OS X Server 1.02) If what you say were true, I wouldn't have had a transfer rate anywhere near that fast.
I wish that SDMI would follow through with their threat and pursue Princeton University and the United States Navy in court to suppress publication of an academic paper. These parties have the resources to mount an aggressive defense, and the case would set a precedent that would significantly weaken the DMCA.
Heh heh....I can see it now:
SEAL Team four, your mission is to mount an 'aggressive defense' of the US Navy against the SDMI. The gloves are off on this one gentlemen. As you know, any operation where the opposition employs lawyers releases us from the standard rules of engagement.
I was trying to think of a polite way to say this, but: you, sir, are a fucking idiot.
Well, if you use my special proprietary compression codec, which allows you get reach 100Mbps over common modem lines, then you could view the pdf on your computer without downloading it. No, really, you can, because of the speed. Because, you see, it's really fast.
...that a hotdog Chinese pilot crashed into our airplane. The US plane carries a $1000 deductible insurance policy, so the lawyers for our insurance carrier will be in contact with you. I suggest you pay the requested amount, as failure to do so will result in more lawyers, something the US has an infinite supply of.
The clone makers were outselling AND underpricing Apple. They were making the same or better machines and selling them for less and the users loved it. An illustrator I worked with still has a Power Computing G3 and he says it runs quite a bit more reliably than the Apple G3 he has sitting right next to it AND was cheaper.
Power Computing never made a G3 machine. The highest they went was PPC 604e. I've owned two Power Computing machines. Both still working today. However, I have some rather annoying problems with a couple of Power Computing Power Center Pro 210s (210 MHz 604e) at work (running 9.0.4 and 9.1). They just seem to lock up every once in a while. I have this theory that the motherboard and/or components are just different enough from Apple's design that the were based on (7200) that things go strange every once in a while. In contrast, my Apple Blue & White G3 at home running 9.1 is pretty damn stable. It doesn't quite have the uptime my VA Research (remember back in the day when they were VA Research?) RedHat linux box does, but its close. Not to mention that I admin a Mac OS X Server (the pre-Mac OS X one that used to be called Rhapsody) box and I can see that a bunch of our Mac clients have been connected for 28-34 days, which tells me they have been running at least that long with no restarts. Not bad.
blatant plug, since i'm a debian developer:
have you looked at debian? the last stable release, potato, supports alpha.
if you want cool new stuff, you could even give the testing distribution, aka "woody" a whirl. and if you want a broken, but bleeding-edge system, go install unstable.
I did try Debian 2.2 for a while, but when I tried to compile the kernel and it failed, I gave up and switched back to RedHat. I even tried updgrading to woody, with "apt-get dist-upgrade", but it would fail part way through the procedure, leaving me with a non-working system. I know a lot of this is my fault, because I don't know some of the finer points to Debian (e.g., to cure the not-able-to-compile-the-2.2.18-kernel problem, I probably just needed to install a bunch of packages, but when I tell it to install all packages except for the non-US language ones during install, I damn well expect it to have all that I need to compile stuff), but there seems to be a lack of straight forward documentation explaining how to get the stuff installed that you need for developement. The kernel wasn't the only thing that wasn't compiling either. There were a number of things I tried to build and they wouldn't. I've had no trouble building these very same things under RedHat 7.1beta. That said, I would very much like to be running Debian, as I agree with their political position on free (speech) software. Plus, apt-get makes me hard.
Hi, my name is Jim Allchin and I am a turnip. In spite of being a common garden tuber, I manage to stick my entire head up my ass. I was right in the middle of this when someone interviewed me about linux and open source software, so it is entirely possible that my answers bear no connection to reality . Sorry about that.
Sorry for the OT post, but does anyone have any suggestions for self training that they found particularly effective (O'Reilly books, etc.)?
I've been reading Slashdot for some time (Slashdot ID #1078) and playing about with Linux for something like 3 yrs now. I've never really had lots of time to invest in self training, but recently I've decided to give it a bit more priority. I would appreciate any suggestions (except those that are anatomically impossible) so fire away.
"Where are my files? Where are my aliases? Where is my underwear?" It still amazes me that people think you have to be some kind of computer genius to understand "system files go here, applications go there, documents go here or with the application" and refuse to learn those things after a decade of working with computers. I mean, do they go calling the office manager looking for the stapler because there isn't a note taped on top of the desk telling which drawer it's in? But they have no problem calling tech support and spending half the day screaming that they can't work because some desktop alias to their favorite application got trashed. I guess some of it is age of first exposure to computers, but it's much more fun to pretend that it's all stupidity.
I support about 30-40 users and I've found a good cure for people putting their stuff on the desktop. When I give new users their computer orientation (how to access the file server, which printers to use, etc.) they are all told that they have a "Documents" folder/directory and they must put all their documents in that folder or sub folders or it will not be backed up. Several users choose to ignore this, and I remind them every time they have a problem with their computer and I go to thier office to fix it and see the desktop just packed with documents. I live for the day when something bad happens and they ask me to restore the files. I'll simply tell that that I would be able to do just that, if they had followed the directions I gave them several times. Then I'll just do my best BOFH laugh and leave the room.
And that was after Ellison had the Lithuanian hitman talk to him. I definitely admired the comptroller's stamina.
Am I reading that wrong, or were they basically nailed by script kiddies?
Isn't it the first basic law of nature that what DOESN'T "mutate", or rather adapt, will eventually become extinct?
Not so sure about that. If you happen to be perfectly suited to your niche, there is no selection pressure to change. Look at sharks, for example. Essentially unchanged for millions of years. Why? Because they are highly optimized killing machines that swim. They are very, very good at what they do. I'm trying to think of something similar in the tech world....um....pencils?
What's the deal with the event horizon? All the pictures I've seen (admittedly, many from science-fiction) depict a circle, and stuff gets sucked through it like a gate, and funnels downward (so the circle becomes the base of a sort of curvy concave cone shape).
So, why isn't the "event horizon" (a distance from the actual point of the hole) a sphere extending the same radius in all directions?
I'm just guessing here, but could it have something to do with the accretion disk associated with a Kerr (rotating) black hole vs. A Scwartzchild (non-rotating) black hole? Or maybe I have that backwards. In any case, the visible stuff would be the material being sucked in, excited by radiation from the material as it is accelerated. Or something like that. Aren't black holes x-ray sources?
It's almost as if there's a bunch of geeks in Vegas betting on when each development release of what kernel will be released.
There are, and I just lost my shirt over this one. Now where will I hang my pocket protector?
How about a nice nipple ring with a aligator clip hanging from it?
OSX? Theft!
What are you talking about, theft? They bought the company (NeXT) that owned the code they used as a basis for Rhapsody/OS X. As an added bonus, many (as far as I know) of the engineers that worked for NeXT now work at Apple, with Avie Tevanian being being their senior VP of Software Engineering. In fact, it is almost as if Apple became NeXTified, rather than NeXT becoming Appleified.