I can't imagine that concept would work for Minnesota. What works in Utah does not necessarily work in Minnesota, where the temperature swing plays hell on our roads - freezing and thawing tends to bust up roads pretty good, and nature stops for no man. If we tried to do what Utah does, we'd never get any new projects in; patching U.S. 71 from Blackduck to Intl. Falls would take precedence over another lane for 494, when it's obvious that there's 10 times as many cars that use 494 every day.
That also means we'd continue patching and fixing roads, when we could be financing light-rail transit.
That's because ignorance requires no effort; it's the easiest way out. The method you talk about requires effort, and leads down the path to intelligence, which is hard work.
He's saying that all the money in the world won't get some people to learn and excel. Those people have to want to learn. So, there's very little gain to be had by giving free college tuition. Some of the young adults coming out of high school A) didn't graduate, or B) graduated by default, i.e. they were pushed thru by the system, handed a diploma, and really didn't lean much of anything. I graduated in the upper 15% of my class in high school, but I know people who had to take summer classes just to make their credits in order to graduate. Dangling a free college education in front of those people probably won't get them interested in learning - they've geared up for making whatever money they can, and starting to raise a family.
As funny as it sounds, you hit one of the nails square on the head. I don't think half the previous US Presidents would've been elected if there was TV back then.
I know what you mean about the College kids having a choice, while high school kids are required to be there. I think the trick lies in either EduTainment, as you said, or perhaps getting those students to enjoy learning with other means. I'm a very hands-on learner, and not all of my classmates were. When it came time for science class where you made a motor with a nail and some wire, or physics where you built a bridge out of toothpicks, not everyone enjoyed working with their hands. It wasn't entertainment, it was actual science, but I loved it because you could see what you built with your hands. I excelled in those classes, but didn't do well in Geometery, where we had to memorize theorems and postulates, for instance.
Not everyone's cut out to be a teacher, I'm glad you figured that out quick and chose a different profession. Some shitty teachers either figure it out and decide it's a gravy train, others never figure out why their students don't like their classes. Unfortunately the teachers that ARE good and LOVE teaching, get paid shit. The pay for teachers is what drives away other possible good teachers. Why teach kids and get paid shit when you could be working at a normal job and make median income? If the pay scale were increased, we'd have everybody and their brother signing up to teach, and everybody and their brother are not necessarily "good" teachers.
Since 'insight' is kinda related to experience, and since I haven't met anyone who's been to 3027 A.D.... why was this modded 'insightful'? Funny, hell yes, but Insightful? Maybe I should just shut up and let the MetaModerators do their thing.
I agree with that: in a lot of poorer parts of America (and the rest of the world, I suppose), bartering is still a form of payment. My father was a self-employed mechanic, and we lived in a rural area where faming was the name of the game. Depending on the price of milk and other farm commodities, some years the farmers did well, others they didn't. In the lean years, my dad would accept payment for his work in the form of equipment he could use, hogs, hay crops, etc. The farmers were happy to exchange goods for services, because A) it doesn't show up on taxes (which is why the government hates bartering - it's impossible to track and assign a value to), and B) they had an ample supply of something of value.
In this instance, the reason the dollar works is because you can't carry two hogs to a movie theater and expect an exchange for tickets. Nor can you bring 10,000 gallons of milk to a car dealer to exchange for a new car. These places have no use for hogs or milk, and would have to store them for later exchange if they did accept them. It's a huge hassle in these scenarios, which is why the dollar is small, lightweight, and easily exchangeable.
Sorry about repeating what you just said almost verbatim! I was so mad at the parent post I didn't read all the replies. Glad to see there are others with the same views.
...tying the hands of government agencies so that they cannot take any steps to protect the country from the external forces who would do it harm... Maybe it's not up to the government to protect you. Maybe you have to protect yourself. If you want it so easy that the government watches out for every terrorist, questionable-looking guy and weak tree limb, perhaps it would be easier if you didn't get out of bed in the morning. For if you allow the government to fully remove the liberties it's currently taking away from you, pretty soon you won't have the liberty of getting out of bed in the morning.
There really are external forces who want very badly to harm this nation. Try being "eternally vigilant" about them for a change instead of treating your own government like it is trying to load you onto box cars and ship you off to a detention center for reeducation or liquidation. My opinion is that those "external forces" you talk about are more pissed at our government than at individual Americans. They can't name individual Americans that piss them off unless they're part of the American government. Maybe if our government got it's shit together, they wouldn't be so pissed.
Wait, let me fix that for myself: Maybe if we required our government to get it's shit together, those external forces wouldn't be so pissed.
These are great questions! Do black holes and event horizons occur on a plane or in 3D? I know that black hole vortices are supposed to look like the bell end of a trumpet, but I can't imagine the event horizon being perfectly concentric to the singularity. Anyhow, if those event horizons passed by each other at exactly 180 degrees apart on the same plane, then I'd say they'd self-cancel, more or less. But if they passed by each other at some obtuse angle, then I think that particle would accelerate at a vector that bisects those planes.
Just talking out of my ass. Waiting on arguments from Einstein 2.0, LOL.
I agree with that, you have to have a head on your shoulders, paying attention to your driving and the driving of those around you. No company can make a car that perfectly protects it's idiot driver, but they sure try. Mirrors are on vehicles for a reason; there's rarely an acceptable excuse for "I didn't see it..." The only instance I can think of would be driving thru an intersection with the right-of-way (green light), and someone completely blows the red light and T-bones you.
Even 4-way stops mean that when you're stopped, you should be judging the deceleration rate of the vehicle approaching the intersection, and be satisfied that they're going to stop in time, or that you can clear the intersection before they arrive.
Ahhhhh, associated costs of ownership & maintenance, the part of a gas car that everyone pays but no one accounts for!
Tires, (brakes perhaps, depends on braking mechanism), wheel bearings, etc. will still be a part of maintenance, and will still need to be replaced, just like a gasoline vehicle, but that's at least at 40K intervals.
Wait, speaking of that, let me see if this topic will start to talk about fuel taxes being evaded...
I live in Central MN, and I don't own an SUV. I own a '99 Ford F-250 (gas 2WD 5-speed), a '98 Ford Contour that I drive every day, and a '67 Ford Galaxie 500. However, I don't have A) a family, B) a boat/other toys, or C) a need to load up on groceries. I DO commute, however.
Lots of people in MN do pretty well for themselves, well enough that they can own a house AND a cabin, and probably have more than one vehicle in the family. Ours had several all the time. Why not that other vehicle be some electric car that they can commute with? Keep the SUV/truck parked until you need to pull the boat/horse trailer/other toys; insurance isn't that expensive when you have more than one vehicle.
Obviously electric cars won't work for everyone. My dad drives a '70 Peterbilt 15 miles to work every day because it has all of his tools, welder, air compressor, torches, etc. built into it, and occasionally he'll have to fix excavating equipment on the site. He wouldn't benefit from an electric car, and I can't imagine farmers would, either. However, only 3 million Americans consider themselves "farmers." http://www.census.gov/apsd/www/statbrief/sb93_10.p df/
How many people take I-94, I-35, 169, 10, 12, Hwy. 55, Hwy 36, etc. into work every day, and then drive back out? It doesn't matter if you live in Sauk Center or Red Wing, you've been to the Cities before during rush hour traffic - it's discussed for an hour when old people from the country have to "drive to the cities" (read: Maple Grove) and got caught in "rush hour." (read: noon!) All of those people who commute could be driving an electric car. Then they can drive home, and hook the truck up to the boat, and head out. Regardless, electric cars are still viable for a LOT of people, they just don't know it yet. Not everyone, but a large group.
Isn't "efficiency" the ratio of energy in vs. energy out? How does one determine the 'energy in' of a solar panel? Who determines that X lumens in / Y watts out = 1? It would seem to me that the best PV cells currently in the industry are 100% efficient, and everything that doesn't do as well is less efficient. I understand that what isn't turned into electricity is wasted as heat, but PV systems that have solar water heaters over the PV section would be extremely efficient in that sense, capturing the heat AND the electrical value of sunlight.
I agree, who cares about efficiency? Total cost invested / total returns should be the only "efficiency" mark to look at in a given period of time.
Do you really want to take your kids to Tehatchapi? I don't think it's that huge of a tourist destination.
And when your kids grow up and complain about the high price of fuel, electricity, or clean air, make sure you tell them that it's the price you paid for having a clean landscape to show them when they were kids.
Putting wind farms in the middle of a forest isn't the wisest; wind farms normally go where the scenery isn't, such as the middle of the High Desert, or the middle of Nebraska, or Buffalo Ridge in MN.
I can see by the comments that the vast majority of people touting the disabilities of MD didn't actually use them. There was one contributor who was right on the mark - later MD ATRAC formats were meant to compress the music even further to compare to MP3 players. A) You don't need to use the compressed versions of ATRAC if you don't need the space. B) Without ATRAC compression, 1 MD = 80 minutes of direct recording, actually 79:30something, leaving some space for track breaks and the Table Of Contents. That sounds like CD length to me... oh, wait. It's 20 minutes longer.
There's a huge bonus to MD players as well: you can instantly record in the middle of a track, change tracks around, record at the end of the disc; wherever you want, and label the tracks as well. Thank You, user-modifiable TOC. In reality, you record linearly on the MD, and the TOC just looks up the location on the disc, just like a CD, except the TOC can be modified forever while leaving the music data alone. Track access on decks was via a twist-n-push knob, very convenient for live music replay and sound effects in theatre (especially before the advent of fast laptops and MP3), where you may need to play a 3-second Track 4 followed by the 2-minute Track 1, followed again by 3-second Track 4, and then 5-minute Track 5.
I agree Sony snuffed out their chances by wrapping up licensing tighter than a drum; however, other companies did make MD equipment: Sharp used to, Tascam still does.
Remember: If you want to own a potentially dangerous item such as a handgun know all the relevant laws and how to use it without accidentally hurting anyone.
I agree, but with more vigor: Minnesota requires you to know state law and use of your weapon before giving you a concealed carry permit. Similar to a driver's license. I'm a gun proponent, and have my MN Firearm Transfer permit, but just like with vehicles, there are still some people who shouldn't carry guns. Doesn't mean they should be allowed to be ignorant in the use of firearms, however, IMHO.
I don't know where people got the "gun" aspect from this story; this was a great story about justice not involving violence(well, justice of sorts), and then it became a gun debate. Sheesh.
Our foodstocks are polysorbate 60 and Yellow Dye No. 5. Who cares about corn? Nobody really eats corn anymore. Might's well use that weed for something!/sarcasm
Seriously, if that thing was close to the end of it's natural lifespan, it probably tasted like ass. I know the Inuit use the rest of the whale efficiently, so the age might not matter as much to them, but the older other mammals get (cows, pigs, etc.), the worse they taste.
Little Inuit kid at the table: "Gah, this meat tastes like a rusty harpoon!"
Mother of Inuit Kid: "You'd better eat it, or you won't get any blubber for dessert!"
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That also means we'd continue patching and fixing roads, when we could be financing light-rail transit.
That's because ignorance requires no effort; it's the easiest way out. The method you talk about requires effort, and leads down the path to intelligence, which is hard work.
You might need to learn how to read.
He's saying that all the money in the world won't get some people to learn and excel. Those people have to want to learn. So, there's very little gain to be had by giving free college tuition. Some of the young adults coming out of high school A) didn't graduate, or B) graduated by default, i.e. they were pushed thru by the system, handed a diploma, and really didn't lean much of anything. I graduated in the upper 15% of my class in high school, but I know people who had to take summer classes just to make their credits in order to graduate. Dangling a free college education in front of those people probably won't get them interested in learning - they've geared up for making whatever money they can, and starting to raise a family.
As funny as it sounds, you hit one of the nails square on the head. I don't think half the previous US Presidents would've been elected if there was TV back then.
Not everyone's cut out to be a teacher, I'm glad you figured that out quick and chose a different profession. Some shitty teachers either figure it out and decide it's a gravy train, others never figure out why their students don't like their classes. Unfortunately the teachers that ARE good and LOVE teaching, get paid shit. The pay for teachers is what drives away other possible good teachers. Why teach kids and get paid shit when you could be working at a normal job and make median income? If the pay scale were increased, we'd have everybody and their brother signing up to teach, and everybody and their brother are not necessarily "good" teachers.
Teaching's a tough nut to crack.
Since 'insight' is kinda related to experience, and since I haven't met anyone who's been to 3027 A.D.... why was this modded 'insightful'? Funny, hell yes, but Insightful? Maybe I should just shut up and let the MetaModerators do their thing.
In this instance, the reason the dollar works is because you can't carry two hogs to a movie theater and expect an exchange for tickets. Nor can you bring 10,000 gallons of milk to a car dealer to exchange for a new car. These places have no use for hogs or milk, and would have to store them for later exchange if they did accept them. It's a huge hassle in these scenarios, which is why the dollar is small, lightweight, and easily exchangeable.
Wow! Now I've got to wiki "Tubgirling". Hey, why don't you tell us how you really feel? LOL! Nice post.
Sorry about repeating what you just said almost verbatim! I was so mad at the parent post I didn't read all the replies. Glad to see there are others with the same views.
...tying the hands of government agencies so that they cannot take any steps to protect the country from the external forces who would do it harm... Maybe it's not up to the government to protect you. Maybe you have to protect yourself. If you want it so easy that the government watches out for every terrorist, questionable-looking guy and weak tree limb, perhaps it would be easier if you didn't get out of bed in the morning. For if you allow the government to fully remove the liberties it's currently taking away from you, pretty soon you won't have the liberty of getting out of bed in the morning. There really are external forces who want very badly to harm this nation. Try being "eternally vigilant" about them for a change instead of treating your own government like it is trying to load you onto box cars and ship you off to a detention center for reeducation or liquidation. My opinion is that those "external forces" you talk about are more pissed at our government than at individual Americans. They can't name individual Americans that piss them off unless they're part of the American government. Maybe if our government got it's shit together, they wouldn't be so pissed.Wait, let me fix that for myself: Maybe if we required our government to get it's shit together, those external forces wouldn't be so pissed.
Just talking out of my ass. Waiting on arguments from Einstein 2.0, LOL.
And they don't even give us the complimentary reach-around... bastards.
Where I live there are some 110 racing fuel pumps, but you pay almost $5 a gallon for it.
Even 4-way stops mean that when you're stopped, you should be judging the deceleration rate of the vehicle approaching the intersection, and be satisfied that they're going to stop in time, or that you can clear the intersection before they arrive.
Tires, (brakes perhaps, depends on braking mechanism), wheel bearings, etc. will still be a part of maintenance, and will still need to be replaced, just like a gasoline vehicle, but that's at least at 40K intervals.
Wait, speaking of that, let me see if this topic will start to talk about fuel taxes being evaded...
Lots of people in MN do pretty well for themselves, well enough that they can own a house AND a cabin, and probably have more than one vehicle in the family. Ours had several all the time. Why not that other vehicle be some electric car that they can commute with? Keep the SUV/truck parked until you need to pull the boat/horse trailer/other toys; insurance isn't that expensive when you have more than one vehicle.
Obviously electric cars won't work for everyone. My dad drives a '70 Peterbilt 15 miles to work every day because it has all of his tools, welder, air compressor, torches, etc. built into it, and occasionally he'll have to fix excavating equipment on the site. He wouldn't benefit from an electric car, and I can't imagine farmers would, either. However, only 3 million Americans consider themselves "farmers." http://www.census.gov/apsd/www/statbrief/sb93_10.p df/
How many people take I-94, I-35, 169, 10, 12, Hwy. 55, Hwy 36, etc. into work every day, and then drive back out? It doesn't matter if you live in Sauk Center or Red Wing, you've been to the Cities before during rush hour traffic - it's discussed for an hour when old people from the country have to "drive to the cities" (read: Maple Grove) and got caught in "rush hour." (read: noon!) All of those people who commute could be driving an electric car. Then they can drive home, and hook the truck up to the boat, and head out. Regardless, electric cars are still viable for a LOT of people, they just don't know it yet. Not everyone, but a large group.
I agree, who cares about efficiency? Total cost invested / total returns should be the only "efficiency" mark to look at in a given period of time.
And when your kids grow up and complain about the high price of fuel, electricity, or clean air, make sure you tell them that it's the price you paid for having a clean landscape to show them when they were kids.
Putting wind farms in the middle of a forest isn't the wisest; wind farms normally go where the scenery isn't, such as the middle of the High Desert, or the middle of Nebraska, or Buffalo Ridge in MN.
There's a huge bonus to MD players as well: you can instantly record in the middle of a track, change tracks around, record at the end of the disc; wherever you want, and label the tracks as well. Thank You, user-modifiable TOC. In reality, you record linearly on the MD, and the TOC just looks up the location on the disc, just like a CD, except the TOC can be modified forever while leaving the music data alone. Track access on decks was via a twist-n-push knob, very convenient for live music replay and sound effects in theatre (especially before the advent of fast laptops and MP3), where you may need to play a 3-second Track 4 followed by the 2-minute Track 1, followed again by 3-second Track 4, and then 5-minute Track 5.
I agree Sony snuffed out their chances by wrapping up licensing tighter than a drum; however, other companies did make MD equipment: Sharp used to, Tascam still does.
JMO.
I agree with everything you just wrote, and that never happens to me here. I wish I had points to mod you up.
I agree, but with more vigor: Minnesota requires you to know state law and use of your weapon before giving you a concealed carry permit. Similar to a driver's license. I'm a gun proponent, and have my MN Firearm Transfer permit, but just like with vehicles, there are still some people who shouldn't carry guns. Doesn't mean they should be allowed to be ignorant in the use of firearms, however, IMHO.
I don't know where people got the "gun" aspect from this story; this was a great story about justice not involving violence(well, justice of sorts), and then it became a gun debate. Sheesh.
Our foodstocks are polysorbate 60 and Yellow Dye No. 5. Who cares about corn? Nobody really eats corn anymore. Might's well use that weed for something! /sarcasm
It's always easier to hunt for chicks - they go to the bathroom in large groups.
Little Inuit kid at the table: "Gah, this meat tastes like a rusty harpoon!"
Mother of Inuit Kid: "You'd better eat it, or you won't get any blubber for dessert!"