I previously had Mozilla Firebird 0.7 installed on Windows 2000. I've tried to migrate to Firefox befoew, but certain things (like Sessionsaver sessions and the theme) didn't work/look proper[ly].
For those that don't know, Sessionsaver can save tab/window sessions so that they come back up after closing and re-opening the program. It's really nice when you have 15 tabs that you have the way you like them and accidently close the window. Qute is the Firebird theme and the most popular on the themes site.
Previously, all of my settings for Firebird were kept in C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\Mozilla\Phoenix\ and there was a file in \Mozilla\ called pluginreg.dat.
I have always downloaded the.zip files and put them where I want them, so if you install using an installer, YMMV.
Here's how I got my settings back with the Firebird theme and all of my tabs back open. There's no real haX0ring involved here, but in the case that any one wants to do this, this is what worked for me. (Gripes to follow.)
Load Browser, Migrate Settings Then, I loaded the browser and it prompted me as to whether or not I wanted my old settings migrated. I did, and selected the default options. The browser loaded and my homepage and network settings were there (YES!).
Download and Install Qute Now, I liked the way Firebird looked and the way my tabs were saved by the Sessionsaver 0.2d extension. So, I went to the Themes manager and clicked Get More Themes. I downloaded and installed Qute. Then, in the Themes manager, I selected the Qute theme and clicked the Use Theme button. It didn't show up in my browser window right away, but I figured "maybe it needs me to shutdown and restart." So, I wasn't too worried.
Download and Install Sessionsaver 0.2d Then, I googled for "sessionsaver", and got lucky. I installed the Sessionsaver extension. In the Extensions manager, it asked me if it wanted me to install it to my user preferences folder. It suggested that this way, it wouldn't have to be reinstalled when I upgrade the browser. I know that's not true, but I said yes, anyway. I loaded up an extra tab and a window to see if it would load them back up the next time.
Restart Firefox Much to my surprise (and excitement), Firefox didn't open back up with my test windows and tabs, but my old Firebird session!
I went through this process again (making sure to remove my \Mozilla\Firefox folder and any added files and the program folder made when I unpacked the zip file), just to make sure I wasn't crazy.
Now, for the things that annoy me:
1) The Qute theme isn't EXACTLY like it was in Firebird. The buttos are shinier or something. I may write to the designer or search around for an older version if I can, but I'm going to live with it for now.
2) The Extentions, Themes, and Downloads windows suck up tons of CPU time when I move my mouse cursor between the panes and in and out of the windows. WTF?
3) The Download manager. I personally preferred the old progress windows from Firebird. I know there's an extension to allow me to use external programs for downloads, but I really did like those little windows. At least give me the choice of using the manager or the windows. The one function of this that I do like is t
nmap ethereal/tcpdump I've also heard that nessus is nice to use. And, I've just remembered, google.
But, really, it doesn't seem like it would be easy to have a Linux Sysadmin's Toolkit CD where you could run programs on a live system (rather than boot into another one like with Knoppix) due to the different systems out there using different distros with different file tree structures and different versions of [g]libc.
Also, most of the tools are so simplistic that it's hardly worth mentioning them. Need to reset a root password and you don't know the current one? Mount the filesystem and edit/etc/shadow. Most things are done using simple tools, rather than complicated applications.
Also, FWIW, screen is likely very useful to many admins. I just find it useful for keeping terminals available without cluttering up my desktop. An added benefit is that I can ssh in from elsewhere and work with them from there, too. I've wanted for a while to fiddle with ratpoison to get a similar effect for X programs.
Well, since 2600 is headquartered in NYC and they do most of their work there, why should they be expected to go far away?
Also, when the price is high, you'll get people there that REALLY WANT to be there, and not a bunch of idiots named Zer0ko0l and c3re4lk1ller whose main intention is to spend the whole time playing FPS games.
Unless you talk to a technical person at the bank, they won't know what your problem is. They do not know what Mozilla is. Even if you DO talk to a technical person who knows what it is, they may not have the power to change things.
So, if you leave the browser thing out of it completely and make it a more general "You're not meeting my needs" reason, they might be more understanding.
When my bank (http://www.53.com/) was doing testing of a BETA online banking system once, I tried it. It seemed to work okay in Mozilla. There was a note somewhere, though, that they were going to be considering moving to an ActiveX applet later. I wrote to them telling them that I was happy that the site worked in Mozilla and asking them to keep users like myself in mind when considering moving to an ActiveX system. It might behoove you to let your bank know that you are happy about being able to use Mozilla on their site so they realize that that is a good thing for you.
Er... Waitaminute... Wasn't there a big hullabaloo a while back about people not being able to take their cell phone numbers with them when they changed carriers? And now we can.
Wouldn't this look the same to the general public?
Even I don't really know what kind of difficulties arise when using cell number portability as compared to moving an IP address from one company to another, and here I am!
Don't bother sharing an account. One bad apple can change the password and you're screwed.
Just forward the mail from one Gmail account to another. It's likely that Google wouldn't store the attachment twice, but would basically send the recipient a link.
Maybe there will be webforms where you enter your email address and you're forwarded your file.
don't tell anyone here that I said that, I'll get beat
Don't worry. You've just praised a Microsoft product after praising Slackware. All those that would beat you are currently passed out due to a short circuit in their beliefs code.
Do you not think that they built the price of the router and card into the service? Or did you just order DSL/cable with free installation and the usual $40-50/month fee? If the latter, it would be nice to have some information about this deal from their website.
You also suggested that almost anyone (okay, I realize you didn't mean anyone) would have a deal like this. Any URL proof of that?
I'm just calling you on your overly general statement. You must in future realize that situations are not the same everywhere. Not everyone has the option of even broadband and not everyone feels comfortable with the offerings of your ISP of choice.
Hey, I'm not choosy as to who can buy me a drink, so if your parent poster does want to, that's cool. Just be aware that I drink nothing but beer (no wine, vodka, rum, etc.), and only good stuff. If it has "Lite" in its name, it's not going in my tummy. If it's dark, has a nice foamy head, and a strong taste, hand it over.
However, as to what you're suggesting, my door don't swing that way (unless your parent is a chick, in which case, it does, with limitations:-/ ).
But, Hah!, I never expected to get a response like that. I suppose I should feel honored that someone was ticked off enough by my post to take the time to insult me. So, thank you, grandparent poster, your insult is accepted. From now on, I will alert all new friends and acquaintances to watch out! because I am an argumentative cocksucker (figuratively).
If you need a router, call up Verizon or someone and they'll give you a router for free. If you can't get a free router from your ISP, you're doing it wrong.
Intriguing. So, I can call just about anyone and get a free hardware firewall?
This is an amazing revelation. Do you think they'll send me anything else, like a new PC? Because this one is getting rather old and I'm sure the software is horribly vulnerable to hackers.
Seriously, though, where is it that some ISP will just send you a free router? There's a commercial on here where they advertise Yahoo!SBC DSL and there's a mention of home networking for $50. I'm betting this is about half for the hardware and half for the labor. Where do I get free hardware firewalls? A URL would be preferable.
I agree -- but some products by nature are going to have consumable parts. Be it paper feed rollers or spark plugs -- some parts are just going to wear out sooner or later.
FWIW, all products are thrown away at some point and they all produce pollution. It's just a matter of how long it takes to turn that pollution back into useful (non-harmful-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things) resources.
You can say that again. Are you an MD or something? That just seemed like a strange sig (that's why I liked it) for the usual/. crowd:)
No, I'm a failed-EE-turned-geography-student (with a specialization in GIS). I was browsing memepool.com one day and came across that site. My grandfather and my uncle (his son) are OBGYNs, though, so I'm related to smart people.
Well, in that case, your company probably got good use out of the folder. In my post, I wasn't really taking into consideration the cost of repairs. My feeling on them is that if you can repair the product and get more life out of it (whether it's rough&tough or a POS), great! However, the "good" product would require little (if any) maintanence and repair. I would consider the life of a product to be the time when you first start to use it (or first buy it, depending on what it is and how long you wait) to when it breaks so as to be useless. In most cases, extending the life is a good move environmentally and economically.
Regarding my sig. I couldn't put in the URL, due to the 120 char limit. So, here it is: http://www.nsvas.com/faq.html. Yes, no-scalpel vasectomy. A strange place to find a sig.
You make fewer of them. You charge more. Your costs are lower. You need fewer workers. You have a good image. "My 1976 Chevy is still running!" "Really? Hmm."
For instance, eMachines or Apple? Apple sells far fewer units than eMachines (I'm guessing) and has been going out of business for a LONG time. They make a durable, though pricey, product.
Unfortunately, people often don't want to look at the long run, and so settle for the cheaper product that will fulfill their needs for the time being rather than pay maybe twice and get a much longer life out of the product.
What about people with restrictive networks that don't allow outbound connections on anything other than web, ftp, pop3, telnet, and maybe ssh? Those people are screwed and the ISOs would be useful for them than rsync.
But really, you shouldn't be downloading ISOs at work.;-) (Yes, I've done it, too.)
In case there's any confusion, when people say "odd point releases", they mean that middle number. You've probably gathered this by now, though. 2.0.0, 2.2.0, 2.4.0, 2.6.0 were "stable" while 1.9.9, 2.1.0, 2.3.0, and 2.5.0 were development.
So, 2.4.25 wasn't a development version, even though it ends in an odd number. The last number just indicates a minor version revision and it's still considered stable.
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I previously had Mozilla Firebird 0.7 installed on Windows 2000. I've tried to migrate to Firefox befoew, but certain things (like Sessionsaver sessions and the theme) didn't work/look proper[ly].
/window sessions so that they come back up after closing and re-opening the program. It's really nice when you have 15 tabs that you have the way you like them and accidently close the window. Qute is the Firebird theme and the most popular on the themes site.
.zip files and put them where I want them, so if you install using an installer, YMMV.
For those that don't know, Sessionsaver can save tab
Previously, all of my settings for Firebird were kept in C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\Mozilla\Phoenix\ and there was a file in \Mozilla\ called pluginreg.dat.
I have always downloaded the
Here's how I got my settings back with the Firebird theme and all of my tabs back open. There's no real haX0ring involved here, but in the case that any one wants to do this, this is what worked for me. (Gripes to follow.)
Download Firefix 0.9.3
I downloaded and unpacked the Firefox zip file for Windows (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/0.9.3/Firefox-win32-0.9.3.zip).
Load Browser, Migrate Settings
Then, I loaded the browser and it prompted me as to whether or not I wanted my old settings migrated. I did, and selected the default options. The browser loaded and my homepage and network settings were there (YES!).
Download and Install Qute
Now, I liked the way Firebird looked and the way my tabs were saved by the Sessionsaver 0.2d extension. So, I went to the Themes manager and clicked Get More Themes. I downloaded and installed Qute. Then, in the Themes manager, I selected the Qute theme and clicked the Use Theme button. It didn't show up in my browser window right away, but I figured "maybe it needs me to shutdown and restart." So, I wasn't too worried.
Download and Install Sessionsaver 0.2d
Then, I googled for "sessionsaver", and got lucky. I installed the Sessionsaver extension. In the Extensions manager, it asked me if it wanted me to install it to my user preferences folder. It suggested that this way, it wouldn't have to be reinstalled when I upgrade the browser. I know that's not true, but I said yes, anyway. I loaded up an extra tab and a window to see if it would load them back up the next time.
Restart Firefox
Much to my surprise (and excitement), Firefox didn't open back up with my test windows and tabs, but my old Firebird session!
I went through this process again (making sure to remove my \Mozilla\Firefox folder and any added files and the program folder made when I unpacked the zip file), just to make sure I wasn't crazy.
Now, for the things that annoy me:
1) The Qute theme isn't EXACTLY like it was in Firebird. The buttos are shinier or something. I may write to the designer or search around for an older version if I can, but I'm going to live with it for now.
2) The Extentions, Themes, and Downloads windows suck up tons of CPU time when I move my mouse cursor between the panes and in and out of the windows. WTF?
3) The Download manager. I personally preferred the old progress windows from Firebird. I know there's an extension to allow me to use external programs for downloads, but I really did like those little windows. At least give me the choice of using the manager or the windows. The one function of this that I do like is t
Interesting.
I always wondered why the company had their name on cars and on RAM chips.
You [probably] paid for it.
Get it here.
You are able to turn off the asterisk if you want.
Come, children! Our -1, Offtopic moderation awaits!
I can't believe no one has mentioned "god mode" yet.
-goobers , anyone?
Anyway, this guy comes across in the story blurb sounding a bit like Ned Flanders.
nmap
/etc/shadow. Most things are done using simple tools, rather than complicated applications.
ethereal/tcpdump
I've also heard that nessus is nice to use.
And, I've just remembered, google.
But, really, it doesn't seem like it would be easy to have a Linux Sysadmin's Toolkit CD where you could run programs on a live system (rather than boot into another one like with Knoppix) due to the different systems out there using different distros with different file tree structures and different versions of [g]libc.
Also, most of the tools are so simplistic that it's hardly worth mentioning them. Need to reset a root password and you don't know the current one? Mount the filesystem and edit
Also, FWIW, screen is likely very useful to many admins. I just find it useful for keeping terminals available without cluttering up my desktop. An added benefit is that I can ssh in from elsewhere and work with them from there, too. I've wanted for a while to fiddle with ratpoison to get a similar effect for X programs.
Well, since 2600 is headquartered in NYC and they do most of their work there, why should they be expected to go far away?
Also, when the price is high, you'll get people there that REALLY WANT to be there, and not a bunch of idiots named Zer0ko0l and c3re4lk1ller whose main intention is to spend the whole time playing FPS games.
You made the mistake of saying that you have Gmail invites.
:-).
Sorry
...I drank well before I was 21. I smoked before I was 18 and I never wore a helmet on my bike.
;-)
And look where you ended up! Posting comments to your imaginary friends on the Internet in the middle of the day.
Isn't that bad enough?!
... I've got a vaccination certificate by the WHO.
;-].
I'm sure CmdrTaco is jealous of you
Wow! Sanity!
Just to put what you said differently:
Unless you talk to a technical person at the bank, they won't know what your problem is. They do not know what Mozilla is. Even if you DO talk to a technical person who knows what it is, they may not have the power to change things.
So, if you leave the browser thing out of it completely and make it a more general "You're not meeting my needs" reason, they might be more understanding.
When my bank (http://www.53.com/) was doing testing of a BETA online banking system once, I tried it. It seemed to work okay in Mozilla. There was a note somewhere, though, that they were going to be considering moving to an ActiveX applet later. I wrote to them telling them that I was happy that the site worked in Mozilla and asking them to keep users like myself in mind when considering moving to an ActiveX system. It might behoove you to let your bank know that you are happy about being able to use Mozilla on their site so they realize that that is a good thing for you.
Or your phone number!!! HAHAHA!!!
Er... Waitaminute... Wasn't there a big hullabaloo a while back about people not being able to take their cell phone numbers with them when they changed carriers? And now we can.
Wouldn't this look the same to the general public?
Even I don't really know what kind of difficulties arise when using cell number portability as compared to moving an IP address from one company to another, and here I am!
What I read in our local paper (Columbus Dispatch) is that the MPAA allows one 'fuck' in a PG-13 movie. More than one makes it an R.
Don't bother sharing an account. One bad apple can change the password and you're screwed.
Just forward the mail from one Gmail account to another. It's likely that Google wouldn't store the attachment twice, but would basically send the recipient a link.
Maybe there will be webforms where you enter your email address and you're forwarded your file.
don't tell anyone here that I said that, I'll get beat
Don't worry. You've just praised a Microsoft product after praising Slackware. All those that would beat you are currently passed out due to a short circuit in their beliefs code.
It's not as cheap/fast here as it is in Europe and Japan (there was talk a while back about 100Mb service in .jp) because of population density.
The higher the population density, the more subscribers/area you can get.
Wiring ain't cheap.
And wireless wouldn't be a be-all-end-all solution, either, since you have to get wires out to the APs.
We're afraid to change because we know the current system, and it works well enough.
If we switched, we'd be confused, and we DO NOT want to make fools of ourselves like that.
Why am I still using a PS/2 keyboard and mouse? Why do I still have people asking for PCs with serial ports? Because it works!
Who is your ISP?
Verizon?
Do you not think that they built the price of the router and card into the service? Or did you just order DSL/cable with free installation and the usual $40-50/month fee? If the latter, it would be nice to have some information about this deal from their website.
You also suggested that almost anyone (okay, I realize you didn't mean anyone) would have a deal like this. Any URL proof of that?
I'm just calling you on your overly general statement. You must in future realize that situations are not the same everywhere. Not everyone has the option of even broadband and not everyone feels comfortable with the offerings of your ISP of choice.
Hey, I'm not choosy as to who can buy me a drink, so if your parent poster does want to, that's cool. Just be aware that I drink nothing but beer (no wine, vodka, rum, etc.), and only good stuff. If it has "Lite" in its name, it's not going in my tummy. If it's dark, has a nice foamy head, and a strong taste, hand it over.
:-/ ).
However, as to what you're suggesting, my door don't swing that way (unless your parent is a chick, in which case, it does, with limitations
But, Hah!, I never expected to get a response like that. I suppose I should feel honored that someone was ticked off enough by my post to take the time to insult me. So, thank you, grandparent poster, your insult is accepted. From now on, I will alert all new friends and acquaintances to watch out! because I am an argumentative cocksucker (figuratively).
If you need a router, call up Verizon or someone and they'll give you a router for free. If you can't get a free router from your ISP, you're doing it wrong.
Intriguing. So, I can call just about anyone and get a free hardware firewall?
This is an amazing revelation. Do you think they'll send me anything else, like a new PC? Because this one is getting rather old and I'm sure the software is horribly vulnerable to hackers.
Seriously, though, where is it that some ISP will just send you a free router? There's a commercial on here where they advertise Yahoo!SBC DSL and there's a mention of home networking for $50. I'm betting this is about half for the hardware and half for the labor. Where do I get free hardware firewalls? A URL would be preferable.
I agree -- but some products by nature are going to have consumable parts. Be it paper feed rollers or spark plugs -- some parts are just going to wear out sooner or later.
/. crowd :)
FWIW, all products are thrown away at some point and they all produce pollution. It's just a matter of how long it takes to turn that pollution back into useful (non-harmful-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things) resources.
You can say that again. Are you an MD or something? That just seemed like a strange sig (that's why I liked it) for the usual
No, I'm a failed-EE-turned-geography-student (with a specialization in GIS). I was browsing memepool.com one day and came across that site. My grandfather and my uncle (his son) are OBGYNs, though, so I'm related to smart people.
Well, in that case, your company probably got good use out of the folder. In my post, I wasn't really taking into consideration the cost of repairs. My feeling on them is that if you can repair the product and get more life out of it (whether it's rough&tough or a POS), great! However, the "good" product would require little (if any) maintanence and repair. I would consider the life of a product to be the time when you first start to use it (or first buy it, depending on what it is and how long you wait) to when it breaks so as to be useless. In most cases, extending the life is a good move environmentally and economically.
Regarding my sig. I couldn't put in the URL, due to the 120 char limit. So, here it is: http://www.nsvas.com/faq.html. Yes, no-scalpel vasectomy. A strange place to find a sig.
You make fewer of them. You charge more. Your costs are lower. You need fewer workers. You have a good image. "My 1976 Chevy is still running!" "Really? Hmm."
For instance, eMachines or Apple? Apple sells far fewer units than eMachines (I'm guessing) and has been going out of business for a LONG time. They make a durable, though pricey, product.
Unfortunately, people often don't want to look at the long run, and so settle for the cheaper product that will fulfill their needs for the time being rather than pay maybe twice and get a much longer life out of the product.
What about people with restrictive networks that don't allow outbound connections on anything other than web, ftp, pop3, telnet, and maybe ssh? Those people are screwed and the ISOs would be useful for them than rsync.
;-) (Yes, I've done it, too.)
But really, you shouldn't be downloading ISOs at work.
In case there's any confusion, when people say "odd point releases", they mean that middle number. You've probably gathered this by now, though. 2.0.0, 2.2.0, 2.4.0, 2.6.0 were "stable" while 1.9.9, 2.1.0, 2.3.0, and 2.5.0 were development.
So, 2.4.25 wasn't a development version, even though it ends in an odd number. The last number just indicates a minor version revision and it's still considered stable.