There is also the time issue, where you've done 30 takes of a part and each one of them is close to perfect, but not quite there. At some point, you've gotta step back and ask yourself if you're going to be able to get it any better than what is already laid down. If the answer is 'no', I really don't have a problem with cutting and pasting sections to make it right, because at that point, it's time to move on.
Not only did Sonic Youth experiment with alternate tunings, they would also stick things like screwdrivers in the strings and play out of tune on purpose sometimes. They were one of a handful of bands from that genre that could actually make the noise and dissonance they created work. Interesting stuff.
I read the article linked to by parent, and I must say...what a complete and utter load of sensationalist, grandstanding crap. Speculation, supposition, and accusation, and all with nary a shred of documented evidence to back any of it up.
I could write a column suggesting that the 2000 election was rigged by space aliens with the help of Bat Boy, and it wouldn't be much less credible than this.
Well, no, I wasn't talking about AT&T, but it just goes to illustrate the point that pretty much all of the cell services out there suck horribly, at least when it comes to anything beside collecting your money. Somehow, they're incredibly helpful and efficient at that.
Not to mention the idea that a company would be unwilling to provide actual human help to one of their customers until said customer was frustrated enough to start cursing into a telephone. Gee, that's just impeccable customer service, don't you think?
I should know; I've been one of the people cursing into the phone before. This should come as a surprise to no one: the company in question was a major "fast-running" (wink wink) cell service provider. I had recently moved, and was trying to get my number switched over to the local area code. Never have I dealt with so much frustration in my life, before or since.
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Things that are trival in the former are sometimes much more difficult in the latter.
Examples? Seriously, I'm curious. Also, yes, the lock-in factor is very true, but we'll see how the Mono implementation works out. ASP.NET application code is supposed to be portable across platforms with no modification with it. If that pans out, the lock-in argument will be a moot point.
That being said, I wasn't really focusing on the lock-in, but simply the technology itself.
Parent has a point. While there are things I both like and dislike about Microsoft, I do get kinda sick and tired of seeing a story get posted on/. every time Bill Gates picks his nose in public, or something equally inane.
Yes, we're all aware of Microsoft's business practices. Yes, we're all aware of the faults in their OS code. No, I don't want to hear about it every FREAKIN' five minutes. Also, if there is such interest in Microsoft, why don't we ever hear about the good things that they do (save your "because they don't do any good things" replies)?
Take ASP.NET, for example. I've worked with JSP/Servlets, PHP, and "old-school" ASP, and nothing is better or easier to work with than ASP.NET, IMHO. Before you bad-mouth it, why don't you actually try using it? Plus, if it sucked as bad as some people on this site claim, why would Ximian, et. al. be working so hard on Mono?
All I'm saying is that there should be credit where credit is due, and that it would be nice if every nitpick associated with Microsoft didn't rate a new topic on/.
I know, wishful thinking.
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Oh, sure, I wouldn't dare say that there's *never* been rioting associated with American football; it's just doesn't happen on a regular basis like it does with soccer.
Also, IMHO, using the tearing down of goalposts as an example is kind of a bad analogy. I say this because, while it is quite rambunctious and frenzied, it's not really fan violence in the sense that a riot is. It is stupid and dangerous as hell, though. I'll give you that. IIRC, a girl was injured badly and was nearly killed by a falling goalpost after a Georgia-Tennessee game a few years back.
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...but replace football with soccer and American with European and tell me if anything changes.
Ok, I'll bite. When's the last time you heard the words "hooligan" and "riot" associated with American football?
Not to mention the South, or the Southwest, or the Rocky Mountain states...of course this is all referred to by the derogatory term known as "fly-over country".
I say, let 'em call us "fly-over country" all they want, just as long as they keep flying, and don't land here.
No kidding! I live in TX, where there is not a helmet law and you see these morons riding around without 'em all the time. That ranks right near the top of my "Idiots Who Are Just Asking For It" list.
No, I didn't hear about ITRON before this, and I'm sure that the vast majority of other posters here haven't, either. That's beside the point. My point is that you can't trust a lot of what you read here because of all the political/religious/etc. BS (figuratively speaking, of course) that involves anything Microsoft.
Seeing as how the US, who is undeniably the world leader in space exploration, is considering reverting back to 30+ year old technology in an attempt to stop the bleeding (engineering, budgetary, public relations, political, and otherwise) from Yet Another Shuttle Disaster, consider the question to be begged: if the technology is proven reliable, does its age really matter?
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...so if I named one of my turds "slashdot" in 1983...
I'm afraid that's stretching the definition of 'prior art' to its very limit.
Assuming that you're using C++ and not Java (or similar), of course...
I find this whole study to be flawed. I mean, really, when are rats gonna use electric razors or blow dryers in the "real world"? C'mon!
There is also the time issue, where you've done 30 takes of a part and each one of them is close to perfect, but not quite there. At some point, you've gotta step back and ask yourself if you're going to be able to get it any better than what is already laid down. If the answer is 'no', I really don't have a problem with cutting and pasting sections to make it right, because at that point, it's time to move on.
Not only did Sonic Youth experiment with alternate tunings, they would also stick things like screwdrivers in the strings and play out of tune on purpose sometimes. They were one of a handful of bands from that genre that could actually make the noise and dissonance they created work. Interesting stuff.
I read the article linked to by parent, and I must say...what a complete and utter load of sensationalist, grandstanding crap. Speculation, supposition, and accusation, and all with nary a shred of documented evidence to back any of it up.
I could write a column suggesting that the 2000 election was rigged by space aliens with the help of Bat Boy, and it wouldn't be much less credible than this.
I do want to know what nougat is. In the rhetorical sense.
That's great, thanks. Now, get back upstairs, mommy's calling you for dinner.
No, I wouldn't do that, but if anyone ever does, I'll for damn sure go down there and sit in the parking lot and watch!
Well, no, I wasn't talking about AT&T, but it just goes to illustrate the point that pretty much all of the cell services out there suck horribly, at least when it comes to anything beside collecting your money. Somehow, they're incredibly helpful and efficient at that.
Not to mention the idea that a company would be unwilling to provide actual human help to one of their customers until said customer was frustrated enough to start cursing into a telephone. Gee, that's just impeccable customer service, don't you think?
I should know; I've been one of the people cursing into the phone before. This should come as a surprise to no one: the company in question was a major "fast-running" (wink wink) cell service provider. I had recently moved, and was trying to get my number switched over to the local area code. Never have I dealt with so much frustration in my life, before or since.
Well, thank you very little, Boston, for making a liar out of me.
Leave it to the Chowds....
Things that are trival in the former are sometimes much more difficult in the latter.
Examples? Seriously, I'm curious. Also, yes, the lock-in factor is very true, but we'll see how the Mono implementation works out. ASP.NET application code is supposed to be portable across platforms with no modification with it. If that pans out, the lock-in argument will be a moot point.
That being said, I wasn't really focusing on the lock-in, but simply the technology itself.
Parent has a point. While there are things I both like and dislike about Microsoft, I do get kinda sick and tired of seeing a story get posted on /. every time Bill Gates picks his nose in public, or something equally inane.
/.
Yes, we're all aware of Microsoft's business practices. Yes, we're all aware of the faults in their OS code. No, I don't want to hear about it every FREAKIN' five minutes. Also, if there is such interest in Microsoft, why don't we ever hear about the good things that they do (save your "because they don't do any good things" replies)?
Take ASP.NET, for example. I've worked with JSP/Servlets, PHP, and "old-school" ASP, and nothing is better or easier to work with than ASP.NET, IMHO. Before you bad-mouth it, why don't you actually try using it? Plus, if it sucked as bad as some people on this site claim, why would Ximian, et. al. be working so hard on Mono?
All I'm saying is that there should be credit where credit is due, and that it would be nice if every nitpick associated with Microsoft didn't rate a new topic on
I know, wishful thinking.
Oh, sure, I wouldn't dare say that there's *never* been rioting associated with American football; it's just doesn't happen on a regular basis like it does with soccer.
Also, IMHO, using the tearing down of goalposts as an example is kind of a bad analogy. I say this because, while it is quite rambunctious and frenzied, it's not really fan violence in the sense that a riot is. It is stupid and dangerous as hell, though. I'll give you that. IIRC, a girl was injured badly and was nearly killed by a falling goalpost after a Georgia-Tennessee game a few years back.
...but replace football with soccer and American with European and tell me if anything changes.
Ok, I'll bite. When's the last time you heard the words "hooligan" and "riot" associated with American football?
No kidding...the only reason I even checked out this thread was to see how long it would take for the Euros to start the America-bashing.
/. doesn't disappoint. Now, the only thing left to do is find a post that blames it all on Microsoft....
Once again,
Not to mention the South, or the Southwest, or the Rocky Mountain states...of course this is all referred to by the derogatory term known as "fly-over country".
I say, let 'em call us "fly-over country" all they want, just as long as they keep flying, and don't land here.
I've! Got! To! Buy! This! Album!
</ bad Shatner impression >
Or how about "This OS Only LOOKS Suckass"...
No kidding! I live in TX, where there is not a helmet law and you see these morons riding around without 'em all the time. That ranks right near the top of my "Idiots Who Are Just Asking For It" list.
...I was firing a volley at what I presumed to be another arrogant ethnocentric yank...
Oh, the irony.
No, I didn't hear about ITRON before this, and I'm sure that the vast majority of other posters here haven't, either. That's beside the point. My point is that you can't trust a lot of what you read here because of all the political/religious/etc. BS (figuratively speaking, of course) that involves anything Microsoft.
Does anyone think for a second that this article would have been posted on /.?
/bias lives on!
Umm, doubtful.
Seeing as how the US, who is undeniably the world leader in space exploration, is considering reverting back to 30+ year old technology in an attempt to stop the bleeding (engineering, budgetary, public relations, political, and otherwise) from Yet Another Shuttle Disaster, consider the question to be begged: if the technology is proven reliable, does its age really matter?