1) I think it is moral and ethical. And most likely legal in Finland. Anyway there is zero chance prosecutor will prosecute for that "offence" (the restriction is very likely illegal and therefore void). 2) Are you sane? Are you really claiming no community has ever had anything against gays or abortion or communists? Please! 3) Require? No. Can keep out of (Chinese) jail? Yes. 4) Require? No. Can keep out of blackmail? Yes. 5) Require? No. Can mean difference between good demonstration and police detention before the demonstration? Yes.
Suppose I pay for a mail box. Suppose all/most other mail boxes have illegal drugs in them. What would police do, ignore mine or get a search warrant for me?
But claiming 80% of the material behind the torrents to be legal is extremely silly, just look http://thepiratebay.org/recent. Now, of the thirty there is less than ten legal.
1. PayPal has Accepted policy which prohibits "obscene". 2. Your community might have huge, and I mean huge, "bias" against gay or communism or abortion or whatnot and they might (legally or illegally or "accidentally") snoop you. 3. You country might be against Tibet. Or... 4. You might want to do adultery. It is almost nowhere *illegal*. 5. You might want to have a demonstration outside "free speech zones". OK, this might be illegal... but hardly immoral.
You don't have to give the user permission to write to.bashrc, etc.
In practice you do. Otherwise you must prohibit writes to $HOME. Doable, but inconvenient, and does not give much: a running virus can send letters to an open shell which can do everything.bashrc can.
Smtp (spam) sender is a (limited kind of a) botnet. Locking it down is very, very hard.
You can do the locking but you most likely lose more than you gain, especially in administration (there certainly are programs which do not work without write access to $HOME).
But then you *can* do it in Windows too (by white-listing approved programs and disallowing everything else).
Neither is done in large scale because it is labour intensive: list persons and their "approved" programs, keep those up to date for X persons and Y programs + patches... I'd not recommend it.
All in all: doable but hardly practical (except in a "kiosk"). Not something to brag about.
1. They can steal your passwords (etc. with xmodmap, xev,...), redirect your browsing through their machine if needed - unencrypted (by changing.bashrc/http_proxy). And pretty much anything else you can imagine (change thunderbird smtp host, alias sudo,...). AND They can use your machine to run botnets.
What more could you possibly want to do? You really should not underestimate bash (+ other necessary executables).
2. I do not give a flying fuck about "being better than windows" - it is a ridiculously low bar.
I just said "noexec" flag is pretty much useless against viruses (+ stupid users but they are abundant).
I fully agree that trying to lock down login session is stupid in most cases (there are cases where there must not be anything other visible but a certain application - e.g. in factory floor).
There are many crappy USB gadgets that require you to first install a driver and several adware/crapware add-ons before plugging them in and be usable.
Now it is closer to truth.
There should be absolutely no reason to install anything to get mp3 player working.
Who *really* cares? The end result is that I cannot use the driver which came with e.g. the Eee.
I have to search for a driver which happens to work sometimes with someone who may drop support at any time. Then the driver stops working after next security update.
Do you really think anyone (sane) cares how "close" the kernel is to one of the "vanilla" kernels?
MSI has told that the return rate of Linux notebooks is too high. Asus has told they will stop selling Linux line because it is not profitable (enough).
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If that were true, Finnish language has no chance whatsoever.
1) I think it is moral and ethical. And most likely legal in Finland. Anyway there is zero chance prosecutor will prosecute for that "offence" (the restriction is very likely illegal and therefore void).
2) Are you sane? Are you really claiming no community has ever had anything against gays or abortion or communists? Please!
3) Require? No. Can keep out of (Chinese) jail? Yes.
4) Require? No. Can keep out of blackmail? Yes.
5) Require? No. Can mean difference between good demonstration and police detention before the demonstration? Yes.
Suppose I pay for a mail box. Suppose all/most other mail boxes have illegal drugs in them. What would police do, ignore mine or get a search warrant for me?
Wrong, 100% of the _torrents_ are legal.
But claiming 80% of the material behind the torrents to be legal is extremely silly, just look http://thepiratebay.org/recent.
Now, of the thirty there is less than ten legal.
1. PayPal has Accepted policy which prohibits "obscene". ... ... but hardly immoral.
2. Your community might have huge, and I mean huge, "bias" against gay or communism or abortion or whatnot and they might (legally or illegally or "accidentally") snoop you.
3. You country might be against Tibet. Or
4. You might want to do adultery. It is almost nowhere *illegal*.
5. You might want to have a demonstration outside "free speech zones". OK, this might be illegal
Need I go on?
The fact that you have paid for TPB might be enough for a search warrant.
And we all know how that is going to end (you'll never get your computer back).
And that is all RIAA/... wants.
Seriously, what is the sole purpose of Pirate Bay?
Share Linux distros or share copyrighted material?
You can yell "can be used for legal purposes" or "cannot be proven" or whatnot until your face is blue, but will not change the truth.
Maybe, just maybe, you should read a few paragraphs of history.
"Quickly solved by local populace" ... bloody hell, that is why police and court system was "invented".
Unfortunately "danger" is in the beholder of the eye.
Same with "innocent" - it has been proved far too many times that "revenge" is too strong an urge.
The fact of the matter is that violence has little to nothing to do with weapons.
Are you a complete moron or what? None of the school shootings would have happened without a gun.
P.S. There are wackos trying to ban everything. For some odd reason I think their reasoning is as idiotic as pro gun.
I sincerely hope you are not serious.
Solving things by lynching has never been very, er, civilised way.
If you want to argue against gun control perhaps you should compare to UK as owning a hand gun in UK is illegal.
Unfortunately I see that as a trend. There are too many wackos around. Too many wackos who really should not be allowed to have a gun.
YM: "An armed society is a police society."
arm them accordingly.
I really, honestly think bazookas are the best "tool" for modern warrior.
Exactly - reasonable.
Did he have the gun? Is there "reasonable doubt" he did not?
You don't have to give the user permission to write to .bashrc, etc.
In practice you do. Otherwise you must prohibit writes to $HOME. Doable, but inconvenient, and does not give much: a running virus can send letters to an open shell which can do everything .bashrc can.
Smtp (spam) sender is a (limited kind of a) botnet. Locking it down is very, very hard.
You can do the locking but you most likely lose more than you gain, especially in administration (there certainly are programs which do not work without write access to $HOME).
But then you *can* do it in Windows too (by white-listing approved programs and disallowing everything else).
Neither is done in large scale because it is labour intensive: list persons and their "approved" programs, keep those up to date for X persons and Y programs + patches ... I'd not recommend it.
All in all: doable but hardly practical (except in a "kiosk"). Not something to brag about.
I respectfully disagree.
1. They can steal your passwords (etc. with xmodmap, xev, ...), redirect your browsing through their machine if needed - unencrypted (by changing .bashrc/http_proxy). And pretty much anything else you can imagine (change thunderbird smtp host, alias sudo, ...).
AND
They can use your machine to run botnets.
What more could you possibly want to do? You really should not underestimate bash (+ other necessary executables).
2. I do not give a flying fuck about "being better than windows" - it is a ridiculously low bar.
I did not claim it would be different.
I just said "noexec" flag is pretty much useless against viruses (+ stupid users but they are abundant).
I fully agree that trying to lock down login session is stupid in most cases (there are cases where there must not be anything other visible but a certain application - e.g. in factory floor).
Oh f* ...
I meant "bash < virus.txt"
Sorry.
How about "bash virus.txt"?
I'd like to see that "solved".
(It is far from trivial to make bash non-executable - you essentially need to make a "kiosk")
There are many crappy USB gadgets that require you to first install a driver and several adware/crapware add-ons before plugging them in and be usable.
Now it is closer to truth.
There should be absolutely no reason to install anything to get mp3 player working.
Who *really* cares? The end result is that I cannot use the driver which came with e.g. the Eee.
I have to search for a driver which happens to work sometimes with someone who may drop support at any time. Then the driver stops working after next security update.
Do you really think anyone (sane) cares how "close" the kernel is to one of the "vanilla" kernels?
There are devices which can transmit IP over power lines. They are not that expensive, but do not achieve 100Mbit/s. I do not know how well they work.
One of those, short ethernet cable, and you've got it.
Until that day I will be a happy camper.
See you in ten years!
But as every distribution has different kernel ...
There are quite a few car sharing or car pool systems which work. All of them have solved this problem.
I cannot see why this could not.
MSI has told that the return rate of Linux notebooks is too high.
Asus has told they will stop selling Linux line because it is not profitable (enough).