Very few people do that for Linux, they provide source code and let people port it to Red Hat or Ubuntu or KUbuntu or Gentoo, i.e. half a dozen distributions running half a dozen Window managers.
I think you're severely misinformed as to what porting is. It's not recompiling or packaging.
It would be changing the software so that it builds on a different platform, what they do is build packages, which are added to a repository, which is usually automated.
That way instead of going to the site, downloading it, and clicking "Next" a shitload of time, I type "sudo apt-get install software" and it gets installed. That saves a lot of time sicne it downloads and installs in the background without me having to click or run anything.
Folderview is only a new source of controversy because people don't realise that it can be used EXACTLY the way the desktop is now used, by setting it as your containment. It can ALREADY be done in Beta releases of KDE4 Beta1 by editing ONE LINE in a config file, and there WILL be a dialog to set it this way, just not in the Beta release.
Not sure whether this will be in 4.1 final or not, I forget and can't find a link, but basically you'll have the option to set ANY widget as your desktop background, and set a background separately, so you can easily just select to use your Desktop as an folderview in the Desktop Settings dialog and have an old-fashioned desktop.
Then you can place other widgets inside this one, and use the desktop just like you have in KDE3 (except now you'll have plasma widgets).
This can actually already be done in the beta by editing one line in a config file, but it won't respect your desktop background, you'll get a blank background instead of your wallpaper
Yes, that's a problem I'm annoyed with too, KDE4.0 isn't configurable enough, but 4.1 Beta is more configurable (not fully), apparently a lot of the configuration right now needs to be done by editing config files, because the configuration dialogs and stuff haven't been coded yet, many will be in 4.1, many more (hopefully all or almost all) will be in 4.2
Ok, some bugs get fixed (they do release 3.5.x releases), but for example, KHTML bugs (the Konqueror rendering engine) do not, since it's now considered obsolete.
What are you talking about? KHTML is not obsolete, it's still used, and it still gets bug fixes.
Is it wrong to assume, for the average user, that "release" means "usable" and "shouldn't crash too often"?
No it's not, and it is both usable and doesn't crash too often, I have it running on both a Desktop and a laptop.
Neither of them crash and I can do whatever I need to with either, the Desktop runs the 3D desktop effects on it with no problems.
However it being perfectly usable and not crashing too often doesn't mean it has all the features that KDE4 should have, the developers themselves said that 4.0 would be a stable, usable release, the libraries would be pretty much finished and THEN the programs could start really taking advantage of them (think KOffice, Konversation, Amarok, KDevelop, none of these are part of the KDE project) without breaking due to library changes, but they always said that many features wouldn't be added until later 4.x versions.
Before you continue claiming that KDE4 is a failure because 4.0 didn't have every feature, go back and look at what KDE3.0 was like, then compare it to 3.5
512kbps download, 128kbps upload here.
Permanet, Wexford...
Also I can't get an un-NAT'd connection without upgrading to a business connection.
Uncapped, but I think I'd still prefer this Japanese connection, despite it's crippling restrictions
Works OOTB on my laptop upstairs (a Dell). Same with my brother's laptop (not sure what make). Both are running Kubuntu.
Of course Windows doesn't have problems on either of those either, as long as I go and download the drivers, maybe I'm just lucky.
And I thank Linux that I can sit here listening to Radiohead, Windows XP doesn't work with my sound card, not even when I downloaded the official drivers from the manufacturer. Linux works OOTB
Never coded a basic interpreter, but coded a brainfuck interpreter, and if it's harder to write, it must be harder to interpret.
Also a basic interpreter doesn't seem that hard from what I've seen, though I don't claim to know very much about BASIC or coding in general.
As for contributing to computing, I've added a couple of features (Hint function, display the number of possible moves, allow a game without time limit, end the game when no more moves can be made) to the KDE game KDiamond, those features should be in KDE4.2, neither impressive nor useful to anyone except those who want to play a desktop game, but you asked who could code.
No, a company, AFAIK, is a separate legal entity, in all civil cases (and possibly criminal ones, I'm pretty sure I've heard of companies being responsible for extortion) the company is held responsible, not as person.
Unless you are saying that the shareholders get the freedom, in which case I'll rephrase by saying that the freedoms of the consumer to use the product the way he/she wants to, are, IMO, more important than the freedoms of the shareholders of a company to restrict the consumer.
You aren't distributing the software, so I assume you're safe.
The same probably applies to the GP's post about terminal software, personally I think that users of the terminal SHOULD be allowed the source code, but legally I can't think of how it could be interpreted differently to your situation without a lot of confusion and loopholes.
Well if anyone asks you for the source code you're provided to give it to them yourself to comply. Realistically the only people who would do that are spiteful people trying to catch you out, and you could just send them the source yourself anyway and be compliant.
But he said you will provide a CD to anyone who complains, realistically, you don't even have to link to the source code on ANY server, yours or not, as long as you provide the CD.
Providing the CD makes you compliant with the GPL, not linking to the FTP server, that's just convenient
But the other 1% of the population are reading this thread right now with the text of the GPL in another tab, so Audiobook Cutter better watch their fucking backs
Because the FSF concern themselves with making companies provide the code to their consumers and stuff like that, stuff that costs pretty much NOTHING to do and makes it more fair on the consumer.
The RIAA/MPAA concern themselves with suing random people, including children and the elderly.
Maybe I'm just horribly biased but I'll choose a company protecting consumer freedom over a company protecting the record/film industry any time, regardless of whether they act similar in some ways.
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Very few people do that for Linux, they provide source code and let people port it to Red Hat or Ubuntu or KUbuntu or Gentoo, i.e. half a dozen distributions running half a dozen Window managers.
I think you're severely misinformed as to what porting is. It's not recompiling or packaging.
It would be changing the software so that it builds on a different platform, what they do is build packages, which are added to a repository, which is usually automated.
That way instead of going to the site, downloading it, and clicking "Next" a shitload of time, I type "sudo apt-get install software" and it gets installed. That saves a lot of time sicne it downloads and installs in the background without me having to click or run anything.
Folderview is only a new source of controversy because people don't realise that it can be used EXACTLY the way the desktop is now used, by setting it as your containment. It can ALREADY be done in Beta releases of KDE4 Beta1 by editing ONE LINE in a config file, and there WILL be a dialog to set it this way, just not in the Beta release.
KDE4.1 RC1 isn't release yet, nor is it tagged for release yet.
Not sure whether this will be in 4.1 final or not, I forget and can't find a link, but basically you'll have the option to set ANY widget as your desktop background, and set a background separately, so you can easily just select to use your Desktop as an folderview in the Desktop Settings dialog and have an old-fashioned desktop.
Then you can place other widgets inside this one, and use the desktop just like you have in KDE3 (except now you'll have plasma widgets).
This can actually already be done in the beta by editing one line in a config file, but it won't respect your desktop background, you'll get a blank background instead of your wallpaper
Yes, that's a problem I'm annoyed with too, KDE4.0 isn't configurable enough, but 4.1 Beta is more configurable (not fully), apparently a lot of the configuration right now needs to be done by editing config files, because the configuration dialogs and stuff haven't been coded yet, many will be in 4.1, many more (hopefully all or almost all) will be in 4.2
In other news: Increased numbers of Linux users are causing a drop in water consumption for personal hygiene world-wide.
Hey fuck you, I've showered twice this week already.
Oh shit, it's Sunday, isn't it?
Ok, some bugs get fixed (they do release 3.5.x releases), but for example, KHTML bugs (the Konqueror rendering engine) do not, since it's now considered obsolete.
What are you talking about? KHTML is not obsolete, it's still used, and it still gets bug fixes.
Is it wrong to assume, for the average user, that "release" means "usable" and "shouldn't crash too often"?
No it's not, and it is both usable and doesn't crash too often, I have it running on both a Desktop and a laptop.
Neither of them crash and I can do whatever I need to with either, the Desktop runs the 3D desktop effects on it with no problems.
However it being perfectly usable and not crashing too often doesn't mean it has all the features that KDE4 should have, the developers themselves said that 4.0 would be a stable, usable release, the libraries would be pretty much finished and THEN the programs could start really taking advantage of them (think KOffice, Konversation, Amarok, KDevelop, none of these are part of the KDE project) without breaking due to library changes, but they always said that many features wouldn't be added until later 4.x versions.
Before you continue claiming that KDE4 is a failure because 4.0 didn't have every feature, go back and look at what KDE3.0 was like, then compare it to 3.5
I'm pretty sure it's a sarcastic post used to insult other countries limits, not Japan's.
512kbps download, 128kbps upload here. Permanet, Wexford... Also I can't get an un-NAT'd connection without upgrading to a business connection. Uncapped, but I think I'd still prefer this Japanese connection, despite it's crippling restrictions
Well it doesn't have any piratical applications, but the ninjas will definitely find a use for it
Kopete fixed this, well, you have to edit a config file, but once you do that it works fine on Kopete.
Works OOTB on my laptop upstairs (a Dell). Same with my brother's laptop (not sure what make). Both are running Kubuntu. Of course Windows doesn't have problems on either of those either, as long as I go and download the drivers, maybe I'm just lucky.
And I thank Linux that I can sit here listening to Radiohead, Windows XP doesn't work with my sound card, not even when I downloaded the official drivers from the manufacturer. Linux works OOTB
Never coded a basic interpreter, but coded a brainfuck interpreter, and if it's harder to write, it must be harder to interpret.
Also a basic interpreter doesn't seem that hard from what I've seen, though I don't claim to know very much about BASIC or coding in general.
As for contributing to computing, I've added a couple of features (Hint function, display the number of possible moves, allow a game without time limit, end the game when no more moves can be made) to the KDE game KDiamond, those features should be in KDE4.2, neither impressive nor useful to anyone except those who want to play a desktop game, but you asked who could code.
And how did he do that?
Was it by making better products?
Was it by gaining market share?
Or was it by making Vista cost shitloads more money than XP?
No, a company, AFAIK, is a separate legal entity, in all civil cases (and possibly criminal ones, I'm pretty sure I've heard of companies being responsible for extortion) the company is held responsible, not as person.
Unless you are saying that the shareholders get the freedom, in which case I'll rephrase by saying that the freedoms of the consumer to use the product the way he/she wants to, are, IMO, more important than the freedoms of the shareholders of a company to restrict the consumer.
I see, so you are for freedoms for only certain people in the united states.
I'm for freedoms for PEOPLE, not companies. (And I'm not American but I realise that's irrelevant)You aren't distributing the software, so I assume you're safe.
The same probably applies to the GP's post about terminal software, personally I think that users of the terminal SHOULD be allowed the source code, but legally I can't think of how it could be interpreted differently to your situation without a lot of confusion and loopholes.
Well if anyone asks you for the source code you're provided to give it to them yourself to comply. Realistically the only people who would do that are spiteful people trying to catch you out, and you could just send them the source yourself anyway and be compliant.
But he said you will provide a CD to anyone who complains, realistically, you don't even have to link to the source code on ANY server, yours or not, as long as you provide the CD.
Providing the CD makes you compliant with the GPL, not linking to the FTP server, that's just convenient
But the other 1% of the population are reading this thread right now with the text of the GPL in another tab, so Audiobook Cutter better watch their fucking backs
# apt-get source foo Downloads the source of "foo" from the Debian server
Because the FSF concern themselves with making companies provide the code to their consumers and stuff like that, stuff that costs pretty much NOTHING to do and makes it more fair on the consumer.
The RIAA/MPAA concern themselves with suing random people, including children and the elderly.
Maybe I'm just horribly biased but I'll choose a company protecting consumer freedom over a company protecting the record/film industry any time, regardless of whether they act similar in some ways.
Nope, IE has the issues, and Opera accomodates that crap.