Anonymous is legion, but on occasion, some Anonymous are very, very stupid. When Anonymous ceases to be anonymous, Anonymous thinks it's pretty funny.
They eat the young who make themselves obvious to maintain the average status of anonyminity. It's interesting to see natural selection work on information in such a unique way.
You mention only those interfaces which were successful. What about Palm's little box you were supposed to write glyphs that poorly resembled letters? What about pinch gloves? Why did touchscreens take so long to take off?
I agree that gestures are a useful things for those who choose to use them, but a "5 finger pinch" is neither intuitive or accessible. Some people are missing fingers or have partial paralysis, some people only have one arm. These people help the typewriter and mouse succeed because they can use them.
Don't wag your "future" around, no matter how useful gestures may be they are far from a meaningful solution to anything. For many they only cause more problems, I'm just thankful that I'm not one of them.
I play EVE too and appreciate the potential for small decisions in some games to have small but cumulative effects, but there's some damned good "scripts" you act out out there... though I am starting to feel like many of those are just done for the dollar rather than the art or keeping people interested in coming back for more money.
It's usually FPSes where they can force feed you a lot of cinematics with "Oh look this way, quick quick!" and keep your pupils quivering. Then it's over and it's like the crash after a caffeine tangent with a "To be continued!" or an equally shit and unfulfilling climax.
I used to not sweat it, I had a lot of time and I felt justified in downloading games since I was living on scraps or less. Now... I have to plan on play-time and I don't mind paying for the toys. Except, of course, when the toys turn out to be cheap Asian dollar store doo-dads, shrink wrapped and sold for 60 FUCKING DOLLARS with a no return, no exception policy.
Playing Red Dead Redemption, I understand perfectly well that John Marston is not a good guy. I know he has one goal and he'll do just about anything to capture his bounty to see his wife and child again, buuuuuuuut...
I really didn't want to work for Allende and de Santa. I had a really hard time shooting the rebels, I purposely failed the missions in different ways to see if I could evoke a different consequence, but no. As far as I could tell, I was stuck with the fascists, who of course betrayed me, then I joined the rebels I'd been fighting.
I understand it's how stories go, how role-playing works. I got over it, I played the "more bad guy than a moment ago", but it was unsettling being required to do something like that to progress in the storyline while the pro/ant/pro/ant/protagonist ambiguously resists then submits to everything not-good but adultery.
I tell myself I'd refuse, but I can't help but feel like the non-existent victim's torturer in Milgram's experiment. It's just a game, right? right? Is it really?
MOST people hold the device in one hand, and then WITH A SECOND HAND, perform gestures on the screen.
So, yes, you are correct, people gesture with one hand, but you failed to realize that the device is not magically floating in air.
Close though.
Some people only have one hand. Some people only have one finger. Fortunately they're well into the third standard deviation, but come on, it's an accessibility nightmare already when you're required to "flick" or "pinch" anything.
For the iPhone you have no excuse, anything you need to do while driving you can do with the headset shortcuts. Play / pause / stop / skip / go back / fast forward / rewind the music, make / finish / answer / ignore calls.
Anything else and you shouldn't be doing while driving.
Wonderful advice, I'll distribute pamphlets to the community in the hopes to effectively inform them of this idea that is easily understood and respected. We'll all be much safer thanks to underdogs like you.
A Windows app cannot register to handle Ctrl+Alt+Del.
While true when Windows NT first added that feature many years ago, it hasn't been true for well over a decade (in fact I seem to remember reading that people had found ways to do that within weeks of MS adding that feature), somehow though MS kept the ctrl-alt-del long after it stopped working as a security feature.
You can trap ANY key combination on a PC to do anything you want, Windows won't (effectively) stop you.
Zooming out is a two finger pinch. Going home is a 4 or 5 finger pinch.
Putting the device to sleep will be a 7 finger pinch.
Turning the volume up will be ten fingers slowly rotating to the right, volume down will be left.
Orientation lock will be 20 fingers tapping the display all at once, until it's changed in favor of mute.
Going into DFU or restore mode will require you to call over six of your friends to play a game of twister with your hands in a thoughtfully planned series of motions to avoid accidental activation. Apple will not be held liable to the damage of your hands or iDevice.
A hard reboot will require shipping your iDevice to Apple for maintenance.
I always thought the home button was a good design to make the iphone easy to use for everyone.
It also would affect the usability of the device to remove it. No matter what you do on your iphone, you have one button that brings you back to the start. This makes it very easy to use.
Some multitouch gesture would be the complete opposite.
Not to mention when your shit's not working and some application has gobbled up the input and you need a different means of preemption.
Eh, I don't get the hate. As someone with ridiculously large hands and fingers, I find using iOS a lot easier than some of the teensy keyboards found on other smart phones.
Point is: It's not black and white, and Apple's success in this field obviously means they have at least a clue what they're doing. Listening to most/. geeks, you'd think the opposite was true.
I find the soft keyboard kind of messy but my fingers are very sensitive to pain... blackberries for one are like poking at little nails and I'm trying to get all the weight of one without rolling my finger onto another one.
I think support for bluetooth keyboards might be a pretty fair solution for anyone who doesn't mind the extra handful.
I use a passphrase on mine, which actually results in a full length hexadecimal key (ie, the largest you can use with WPA2-PSK). I've not noticed and significant overhead.
Ohhh, I use a "passphrase" too, I didn't realize that's what it did... now I feel a little silly...
If you use a 63 character, full ascii key, which is quite realistic since this is a key, not a password, then the time quickly rises to galactic scales.
Crisis averted.
Does using a longer key need more overhead? Significantly?
The PS3 slim is of an incredibly clever design, managing to keep the power supply inside the case and the way the blower package fits over it all is simply perfect. I don't hear it run high often, but it does. That's because heat's being generated and it needs to go somewhere else, and that relatively large blower ingeniously fixed inside of the case does that vital work.
Now, I really hope that Sony isn't dare trying to claim that they've overcome the need of dispensing heat or the incidental release of it. It's not the portability that's the problem, it's the side effects of doing billions of calculations a second and the power needed for it.
But honestly, I wouldn't really be all that shocked to see Sony come out with an Easy Bake Oven for your fingers with what else they've done lately...
Chatter is initially bright and light hearted But it’s not long before Storm gets started: “You can’t know anything, Knowledge is merely opinion” She opines, over her Cabernet Sauvignon Vis-à-vis Some unhippily empirical comment by me
“Not a good start” I think; We’re only on pre-dinner drinks And across the room, my wife widens her eyes Silently begs me "be nice" A matrimonial warning not worth ignoring So I resist the urge to ask Storm Whether knowledge is so loose-weave of a morning When deciding whether to leave her apartment by the front door... or a window on the second floor.
I think I have a crush on Tim Minchin... maybe it's just the hair.
[...] Naturally my interest is rekindled now, but I also think it's too little, too late. The hardware is hardly as exciting now as it was in 2006 [...]
It takes time to test the limits and new developments occur all the time. Hardware improvements have reached a sort of threshold where there's plenty to play with and a little more won't really make a difference anymore. Add to that that the 360 has been much more popular and easier to make deals with.
Even today the original Xbox is still a perfectly fine HTPC for some and the 360 and PS3 could last decades doing the same. Well, at least the PS3 could since apparently it has a half or a third the failure rate.
I think there's plenty more creativity left. We don't have to go wasting irreplaceable resources on selling hundreds of millions of new systems quite yet.
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Here's what they would have to do (from a high level perspective, all you encryption experts can retract your claws) to fix this [...]
Very good point and I wouldn't... ahem... won't be surprised when this happens. At least this will provide homebrewers with the option to either have an unbound system or not homebrew. This is in contrast to either still being bound with Other OS or bound without.
Actually, it would be almost perfect if Sony succeeded in this. Pirates still lose and homebrew still lives. I mean, I download shit all the time but I know there's millions of people out there and corporations who have to deal with this who provide for these millions of people who will ultimately lose.
I cheer it being broken open, now people can do what they want with the hardware they paid for. Sony doesn't have to lose business over this.
Seriously, it's always some "Windows vs. OS X vs. Other" or "Gnome VS. KDE" or "Internet Explorer vs. Firefox". Competition is the source of many great things, but as we sit as consumers with our hands on our chin musing on who's the "clear winner" we fail to identify that we're the winners as long as there's actually more than one runner in the race.
Declaring a mistrial here was the only effective way to guarantee the defendant's constitutional right to a fair trial, including the right to examine the evidence against him.
I feel uncertain about it... I mean, no doubt, the jury should not act to investigate outside of the evidence they are provided with, but I also can't deny the curiosity to learn something. Exactly how much research material should the jury need? Are jury members allowed to read a dictionary when a word they don't know is used?
There's sort of an ethical concern here, also. It is the responsibility of the jury to determine if the evidence and testimony provided to them, not that which they receive outside of the courtroom, is sufficient to reject "not guilty".
Though there is the promise that neither the jury or the individual will be held accountable for their decision, but who can't help but to feel guilty in the end for, say, either letting a possible killer go or imprisoning an innocent person?
We're not just asking people to make a decision, we're asking them to risk the burden of their decision and possibly effect them psychologically. Imagine if a person is put to death based on the testimony of an "expert" who turns out to be a crank, and 10 seconds of browsing Wikifuckingpedia might have revealed that. Sure, we can blame the defense for failing to do so, but I can imagine the guilt I'd feel about it.
Even if we had a way of recording everything that ever happens at any time, there still couldn't be a perfect system of justice. I still wonder, with 99.99% of all scientists ever being alive today, can we really be sure that there isn't a better way of holding a court system that's existed for.. like... a really long time?
The thing I like about places like Best Buy is that they make a point to keep live displays. I can actually put my hands on a laptop, or check out a TV before I buy it. I don't mind paying a little more for that convenience.
I largely agree but I've been seeing a trend across most stores locally where when a demo is broken or otherwise unsightly it's just left that way until something replaces it. Burned out Zunes, scratched DS's, crushed LCDs, stolen parts, vandalism... I'd hope that sort of thing would either be taken more seriously or scrapped entirely.
So I get a lot of people who have never typed on a keyboard before. And they get put in front of a keyboard that was designed for advanced professional word-processing business typists of the early 1980's era. A lot of them must feel like they've been abducted by space aliens, especially the ones who have come from pre-industrial cultures and have been doing 'under the table' unskilled construction labor or fruit picking.
I would greatly help if there were only half of the keys on the PC keyboard that there are presently. And get rid of the fucking Num-lock key and the stupid Caps-Lock key!
Please.
I'm not kidding about this. Just do it.
There's a couple kiosks at the college I work at that have only letters arranged alphabetically, a plain numpad and an integrated trackball. When we need to do anything else with it we plug in a USB keyboard. That sounds like what an unemployment office needs.
Alternatively you could just rip the "useless" keys off a USB keyboard and replace them with blanks.
If you're using a Linux terminal (or an ssh session in PuTTY or something), Ctrl+V doesn't paste (for the same reason that Ctrl+C does not copy), but Shift+Insert does.
Yeah, I'm not sure at what point I suddenly stopped using ctrl-V, it sort of seems easier to do shift-insert being right-handed.
I've had the previous version of this for years and I love it, but as a tool for self defense it would probably fare little better than a box of aluminum foil... with the teeth pulled off, so you couldn't even like, saw at someone's neck.
Sounds like they simply corrected a disease that was purposefully inflicted upon the mice. I don't see this as "Aging reversed" more like "Abnormally quick aging can be corrected."
I believe the end of the Nature article link agrees. It also points out that shortening telomeres isn't the only thing that causes aging and it's defects.
That said, this is a good baby step forward.
I'm afraid I read much the same thing; What's shown here isn't particularly age-reversal, it just shows the resilience of cells by fucking with them and then giving back an instrument that they had been deprived of.
Is it not just possible that humans commit horrible acts all on their own and some merely use religion to justify their actions?
Let's see how that works: -"Hey, I have a great idea, let's hijack a couple of jet planes with 200 passengers each and crash them into a skyscraper!" -"Great idea! But, wait, what excuse shall we use for it?" -"Hmmm, I'm not quite sure... How about religion?" -"Well, maybe. OK, unless someone gets a better idea, we will justify it through religion"
No, I think religion is the *prime* motive for a lot of shit people does, not a "mere justification".
If you believe someone can become a suicide terrorist without religion, then you really don't understand people... or religion.
I think it was a little closer to "Those fucking Americans have been supporting Israel in destroying our culture and taking from us our rightful home, let's do as our God would have us and attack their social and economic social structure. Even if it costs us our own lives, it is the will of God so we shall be rewarded eternally, and even if it is not so it is still for the betterment of our people! Okay, who wants to fly the planes? Anyone?"
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Anonymous is legion, but on occasion, some Anonymous are very, very stupid. When Anonymous ceases to be anonymous, Anonymous thinks it's pretty funny.
They eat the young who make themselves obvious to maintain the average status of anonyminity. It's interesting to see natural selection work on information in such a unique way.
You mention only those interfaces which were successful. What about Palm's little box you were supposed to write glyphs that poorly resembled letters? What about pinch gloves? Why did touchscreens take so long to take off?
I agree that gestures are a useful things for those who choose to use them, but a "5 finger pinch" is neither intuitive or accessible. Some people are missing fingers or have partial paralysis, some people only have one arm. These people help the typewriter and mouse succeed because they can use them.
Don't wag your "future" around, no matter how useful gestures may be they are far from a meaningful solution to anything. For many they only cause more problems, I'm just thankful that I'm not one of them.
I play EVE too and appreciate the potential for small decisions in some games to have small but cumulative effects, but there's some damned good "scripts" you act out out there... though I am starting to feel like many of those are just done for the dollar rather than the art or keeping people interested in coming back for more money.
It's usually FPSes where they can force feed you a lot of cinematics with "Oh look this way, quick quick!" and keep your pupils quivering. Then it's over and it's like the crash after a caffeine tangent with a "To be continued!" or an equally shit and unfulfilling climax.
I used to not sweat it, I had a lot of time and I felt justified in downloading games since I was living on scraps or less. Now... I have to plan on play-time and I don't mind paying for the toys. Except, of course, when the toys turn out to be cheap Asian dollar store doo-dads, shrink wrapped and sold for 60 FUCKING DOLLARS with a no return, no exception policy.
Playing Red Dead Redemption, I understand perfectly well that John Marston is not a good guy. I know he has one goal and he'll do just about anything to capture his bounty to see his wife and child again, buuuuuuuut...
I really didn't want to work for Allende and de Santa. I had a really hard time shooting the rebels, I purposely failed the missions in different ways to see if I could evoke a different consequence, but no. As far as I could tell, I was stuck with the fascists, who of course betrayed me, then I joined the rebels I'd been fighting.
I understand it's how stories go, how role-playing works. I got over it, I played the "more bad guy than a moment ago", but it was unsettling being required to do something like that to progress in the storyline while the pro/ant/pro/ant/protagonist ambiguously resists then submits to everything not-good but adultery.
I tell myself I'd refuse, but I can't help but feel like the non-existent victim's torturer in Milgram's experiment. It's just a game, right? right? Is it really?
MOST people hold the device in one hand, and then WITH A SECOND HAND, perform gestures on the screen.
So, yes, you are correct, people gesture with one hand, but you failed to realize that the device is not magically floating in air.
Close though.
Some people only have one hand. Some people only have one finger. Fortunately they're well into the third standard deviation, but come on, it's an accessibility nightmare already when you're required to "flick" or "pinch" anything.
For the iPhone you have no excuse, anything you need to do while driving you can do with the headset shortcuts. Play / pause / stop / skip / go back / fast forward / rewind the music, make / finish / answer / ignore calls.
Anything else and you shouldn't be doing while driving.
Wonderful advice, I'll distribute pamphlets to the community in the hopes to effectively inform them of this idea that is easily understood and respected. We'll all be much safer thanks to underdogs like you.
A Windows app cannot register to handle Ctrl+Alt+Del.
While true when Windows NT first added that feature many years ago, it hasn't been true for well over a decade (in fact I seem to remember reading that people had found ways to do that within weeks of MS adding that feature), somehow though MS kept the ctrl-alt-del long after it stopped working as a security feature.
You can trap ANY key combination on a PC to do anything you want, Windows won't (effectively) stop you.
I wonder if it's the same for Microsoft Sudo
Zooming out is a two finger pinch. Going home is a 4 or 5 finger pinch.
Putting the device to sleep will be a 7 finger pinch.
Turning the volume up will be ten fingers slowly rotating to the right, volume down will be left.
Orientation lock will be 20 fingers tapping the display all at once, until it's changed in favor of mute.
Going into DFU or restore mode will require you to call over six of your friends to play a game of twister with your hands in a thoughtfully planned series of motions to avoid accidental activation. Apple will not be held liable to the damage of your hands or iDevice.
A hard reboot will require shipping your iDevice to Apple for maintenance.
I always thought the home button was a good design to make the iphone easy to use for everyone.
It also would affect the usability of the device to remove it. No matter what you do on your iphone, you have one button that brings you back to the start. This makes it very easy to use.
Some multitouch gesture would be the complete opposite.
Not to mention when your shit's not working and some application has gobbled up the input and you need a different means of preemption.
Eh, I don't get the hate. As someone with ridiculously large hands and fingers, I find using iOS a lot easier than some of the teensy keyboards found on other smart phones.
Point is: It's not black and white, and Apple's success in this field obviously means they have at least a clue what they're doing. Listening to most /. geeks, you'd think the opposite was true.
I find the soft keyboard kind of messy but my fingers are very sensitive to pain... blackberries for one are like poking at little nails and I'm trying to get all the weight of one without rolling my finger onto another one.
I think support for bluetooth keyboards might be a pretty fair solution for anyone who doesn't mind the extra handful.
Not that I've noticed.
I use a passphrase on mine, which actually results in a full length hexadecimal key (ie, the largest you can use with WPA2-PSK). I've not noticed and significant overhead.
Ohhh, I use a "passphrase" too, I didn't realize that's what it did... now I feel a little silly...
If you use a 63 character, full ascii key, which is quite realistic since this is a key, not a password, then the time quickly rises to galactic scales.
Crisis averted.
Does using a longer key need more overhead? Significantly?
The PS3 slim is of an incredibly clever design, managing to keep the power supply inside the case and the way the blower package fits over it all is simply perfect. I don't hear it run high often, but it does. That's because heat's being generated and it needs to go somewhere else, and that relatively large blower ingeniously fixed inside of the case does that vital work.
Now, I really hope that Sony isn't dare trying to claim that they've overcome the need of dispensing heat or the incidental release of it. It's not the portability that's the problem, it's the side effects of doing billions of calculations a second and the power needed for it.
But honestly, I wouldn't really be all that shocked to see Sony come out with an Easy Bake Oven for your fingers with what else they've done lately...
Chatter is initially bright and light hearted
But it’s not long before Storm gets started:
“You can’t know anything, Knowledge is merely opinion”
She opines, over her Cabernet Sauvignon
Vis-à-vis
Some unhippily empirical comment by me
“Not a good start” I think; We’re only on pre-dinner drinks ... or a window on the second floor.
And across the room, my wife widens her eyes
Silently begs me "be nice"
A matrimonial warning not worth ignoring
So I resist the urge to ask Storm
Whether knowledge is so loose-weave of a morning
When deciding whether to leave her apartment by the front door
I think I have a crush on Tim Minchin... maybe it's just the hair.
[...] Naturally my interest is rekindled now, but I also think it's too little, too late. The hardware is hardly as exciting now as it was in 2006 [...]
It takes time to test the limits and new developments occur all the time. Hardware improvements have reached a sort of threshold where there's plenty to play with and a little more won't really make a difference anymore. Add to that that the 360 has been much more popular and easier to make deals with.
Even today the original Xbox is still a perfectly fine HTPC for some and the 360 and PS3 could last decades doing the same. Well, at least the PS3 could since apparently it has a half or a third the failure rate.
I think there's plenty more creativity left. We don't have to go wasting irreplaceable resources on selling hundreds of millions of new systems quite yet.
Here's what they would have to do (from a high level perspective, all you encryption experts can retract your claws) to fix this [...]
Very good point and I wouldn't... ahem... won't be surprised when this happens. At least this will provide homebrewers with the option to either have an unbound system or not homebrew. This is in contrast to either still being bound with Other OS or bound without.
Actually, it would be almost perfect if Sony succeeded in this. Pirates still lose and homebrew still lives. I mean, I download shit all the time but I know there's millions of people out there and corporations who have to deal with this who provide for these millions of people who will ultimately lose.
I cheer it being broken open, now people can do what they want with the hardware they paid for. Sony doesn't have to lose business over this.
The market is big enough for both of them.
Seriously, it's always some "Windows vs. OS X vs. Other" or "Gnome VS. KDE" or "Internet Explorer vs. Firefox". Competition is the source of many great things, but as we sit as consumers with our hands on our chin musing on who's the "clear winner" we fail to identify that we're the winners as long as there's actually more than one runner in the race.
Declaring a mistrial here was the only effective way to guarantee the defendant's constitutional right to a fair trial, including the right to examine the evidence against him.
I feel uncertain about it... I mean, no doubt, the jury should not act to investigate outside of the evidence they are provided with, but I also can't deny the curiosity to learn something. Exactly how much research material should the jury need? Are jury members allowed to read a dictionary when a word they don't know is used?
There's sort of an ethical concern here, also. It is the responsibility of the jury to determine if the evidence and testimony provided to them, not that which they receive outside of the courtroom, is sufficient to reject "not guilty".
Though there is the promise that neither the jury or the individual will be held accountable for their decision, but who can't help but to feel guilty in the end for, say, either letting a possible killer go or imprisoning an innocent person?
We're not just asking people to make a decision, we're asking them to risk the burden of their decision and possibly effect them psychologically. Imagine if a person is put to death based on the testimony of an "expert" who turns out to be a crank, and 10 seconds of browsing Wikifuckingpedia might have revealed that. Sure, we can blame the defense for failing to do so, but I can imagine the guilt I'd feel about it.
Even if we had a way of recording everything that ever happens at any time, there still couldn't be a perfect system of justice. I still wonder, with 99.99% of all scientists ever being alive today, can we really be sure that there isn't a better way of holding a court system that's existed for.. like... a really long time?
The thing I like about places like Best Buy is that they make a point to keep live displays. I can actually put my hands on a laptop, or check out a TV before I buy it. I don't mind paying a little more for that convenience.
I largely agree but I've been seeing a trend across most stores locally where when a demo is broken or otherwise unsightly it's just left that way until something replaces it. Burned out Zunes, scratched DS's, crushed LCDs, stolen parts, vandalism... I'd hope that sort of thing would either be taken more seriously or scrapped entirely.
So I get a lot of people who have never typed on a keyboard before. And they get put in front of a keyboard that was designed for advanced professional word-processing business typists of the early 1980's era. A lot of them must feel like they've been abducted by space aliens, especially the ones who have come from pre-industrial cultures and have been doing 'under the table' unskilled construction labor or fruit picking.
I would greatly help if there were only half of the keys on the PC keyboard that there are presently. And get rid of the fucking Num-lock key and the stupid Caps-Lock key!
Please.
I'm not kidding about this. Just do it.
There's a couple kiosks at the college I work at that have only letters arranged alphabetically, a plain numpad and an integrated trackball. When we need to do anything else with it we plug in a USB keyboard. That sounds like what an unemployment office needs.
Alternatively you could just rip the "useless" keys off a USB keyboard and replace them with blanks.
If you're using a Linux terminal (or an ssh session in PuTTY or something), Ctrl+V doesn't paste (for the same reason that Ctrl+C does not copy), but Shift+Insert does.
Yeah, I'm not sure at what point I suddenly stopped using ctrl-V, it sort of seems easier to do shift-insert being right-handed.
Get a Man's keyboard. I never have that problem on my Model Ms.
Same here... :-)
The IBM Model M: The World's Greatest PC Keyboard!!!
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I've had the previous version of this for years and I love it, but as a tool for self defense it would probably fare little better than a box of aluminum foil... with the teeth pulled off, so you couldn't even like, saw at someone's neck.
Refusing arguments by analogy is absurd. [...]
It's so obvious, but it's really an eye opener to realize it's true when you put it that way.
Sounds like they simply corrected a disease that was purposefully inflicted upon the mice. I don't see this as "Aging reversed" more like "Abnormally quick aging can be corrected."
I believe the end of the Nature article link agrees. It also points out that shortening telomeres isn't the only thing that causes aging and it's defects.
That said, this is a good baby step forward.
I'm afraid I read much the same thing; What's shown here isn't particularly age-reversal, it just shows the resilience of cells by fucking with them and then giving back an instrument that they had been deprived of.
Is it not just possible that humans commit horrible acts all on their own and some merely use religion to justify their actions?
Let's see how that works:
-"Hey, I have a great idea, let's hijack a couple of jet planes with 200 passengers each and crash them into a skyscraper!"
-"Great idea! But, wait, what excuse shall we use for it?"
-"Hmmm, I'm not quite sure... How about religion?"
-"Well, maybe. OK, unless someone gets a better idea, we will justify it through religion"
No, I think religion is the *prime* motive for a lot of shit people does, not a "mere justification".
If you believe someone can become a suicide terrorist without religion, then you really don't understand people... or religion.
I think it was a little closer to "Those fucking Americans have been supporting Israel in destroying our culture and taking from us our rightful home, let's do as our God would have us and attack their social and economic social structure. Even if it costs us our own lives, it is the will of God so we shall be rewarded eternally, and even if it is not so it is still for the betterment of our people! Okay, who wants to fly the planes? Anyone?"