What I'm doing to help is promoting the fair tax at every opportunity. The American People are, indeed, the only ones that can pull this off, because they are the only ones that can cause our congresspeople to vote to kill the IRS and all the income taxes, and adopt the consumption tax that is the Fair Tax. That will get our industries back, for lots of reasons. But we have to do it with a grassroots campaign.
But the money is all GOVERNMENT SPENDING. Stop the gov't spending, and there's no NASA.
We want to do space, we should find a paying customer. Comm sats, Wx Sats, those could have paying customers. Even GPS could have paying customers if they weren't already being done by the military.
But NASA is just a huge money sink that we can't afford. Yeah, lots of science, medical stuff, etc. comes back, but these are things that we, as a bankrupt nation, can no longer afford. If we keep trying it, we're headed for an economic train wreck.
Yep, the USA is broke, but the poorly-kept secret is that its the INCOME TAX that is chasing jobs overseas, causing American businesses to be uncompetitive and therefore go bankrupt, and so forth. Lots of people know this. They just don't know what to do about it.
Here's a hint: Abolish the income tax. Replace it with a consumption tax. This is known as "The Fair tax", has been proposed for quite a few years now, and is gaining momentum, finally.
With the fair tax, the American businesses lose the corporate income tax of 35%. They can therefore afford to lower their prices. Foreign corporations are not paying US corporate income tax, so their products cannot be lowered in price. Then everything is "fair taxed" and foreign good end up costing more than domestic, USA-produced goods.
This will get thet factories back, the good jobs back. That's what we must have. Otherwise, the strategy of impoverishing the workforce, that seems to be preferred now, will keep us from taxing people sufficiently to do things like space exploration.
Read about it at www.fairtax.org. Takes a few months of considering it to see the benefits, but getting rid of the income tax is an "or else" situation. Do or die. We do it and have prosperity, or don't do it and suffer a steady decline as we have for the last 50 years.
NASA should be defunded completely, the launch pads closed, and the whole shebang turned into museums. That would at least bring in a little coin. Our country is broke, getting moreso, with no hope of actually ever balancing the budget while having all our other jobs outsourced, industries leaving, illegal aliens dragging down the charitable services, etc. etc.
Unless we can get our factories coming back, stop the outsourcing, etc., there's NASA and a whole whale of a lot of other things that gov't does that needs to be stopped. You can't tax people that have lost a good-paying tool-and-diemaking job, and are working some crappy-paying retail job, to do things like go to the moon or mars.
Get our industries back. Period. Otherwise, the military can do GPS, the commercial interests can keep launching comm satellites by paying the French to do it, and the military again needs weather info and so can do those satellites too. Everything else is just too expensive for the USA to be doing until we're back working again with GOOD PAYING jobs, not the near-poverty stuff we've been gravitating toward for the last 5 decades.
We don't need no steekin' tariff. All we need to do is pass the fair tax (www.fairtax.org). The removal of the IRS, all income taxes, etc. etc. from AMERICAN industry will cause the prices of AMERICAN goods to fall. Everything retail then gets taxed with the retail sales tax that is the Fair Tax, and foreign stuff ends up costing relatively more than American stuff. Yet, its not a tariff. That's what we should be working toward. Great potential for bringing back our industries from overseas, Mexico, and Canada. Broadens the base of taxpayers to include those that don't pay taxes now - rich people sitting on a pile and spending a little of it each year, illegal aliens, criminals (esp. the drug dealers making trillions of untaxed income), and, a new group, tourists. None of those are paying a dime now, so we get 142 million tax returns in 2008 for a country with 305 million citizens plus probably 20 million illegal aliens. That's nuts. We should have maybe 200+ tax returns. But with a retail sales tax, the inefficiency of even handling individual tax returns goes away, and the $$$ is simply collected when people buy new items at retail.
NASA is going nowhere unless the gov't stops the loss of our prosperity overseas. Yes, I mean outsourcing. Good manufacturing jobs get replaced with crap-wages retail jobs so more and more people live near the poverty line. You can't tax people like that to pay for sky adventures by NASA, and there's fewer and fewer rich people to tax, too. Eventually the Chinese are going to wise up and stop lending us money, and that'll be that for a whale of a lot of things, with things like NASA getting the axe first.
It would be beyond human capabilities to pilot these vehicles in the traffic densities necessary for commuting. This'll have to wait until the artificial intelligence is such that it can navigate the machines automatically, and the passenger can sleep all the way to work. Or wherever.
Having just flown LA to BWI for 5 hrs or so, I'm not fond of contemplating flying propellor aircraft, which an electric almost certainly would have to be, that far. Make airliners to be powered by scramjets - that I'm interested in - but for prop stuff, lets stick to commuting to work. This'll be practical when we get the true autopilot, that you tell where you want to go, and it gets you there. IOW, AI to the max.
... during last week's 8 degree mornings with ice all over the place and a bunch of Virginians that can barely drive anyway trying to kill me. No thanks.
Actually, we CAN compete with slave wages. The price of a good or service is the sum of its costs. If they attack with slave wages, we counter with zero taxes on manufacturing.
We CAN win this, but we absolutely, positively must get rid of the income taxes.
And the income tax is driving the offshoring. Repeal it, run the country on a consumption tax. This will tilt the playing field back toward America, stop the offshoring, and bring prosperity back to the USA. See www.fairtax.org.
and have the extra TIME to travel, I'll be driving more places, for sure. So what if it takes me 3 1/2 days to get to LA from Virginia? They'll at least be pleasant, I'll get to see a lotta scenery, maybe take a few pictures, and bypass the BS. If they ever get the high speed rail working, I might take that... if there's no security BS to put up with (pointless in a train - the terrorists just blow up the tracks..)
This is exactly right on. In all acutality, we can't afford NASA at all, and should quit thinking of going into space for pure research. Wx sattelites can be handled by private industry, or not. GPS is the military's baliwick. Communications - private industry.
The hard, cruel fact is that we DON'T have the money and are NOT GOING to have the money, ever again. The country is in decline, as it has been for the last 50 years or so when textiles moved largely overseas, followed by consumer electronics, then big parts of our steel and auto industries, and now intellectual industries such as software.
Eventually it is _all_ going to be overseas save the (generally poor paying) service industry jobs, including the famously poor paying retail jobs with sucky hours to boot. The country is going to be left with the only prosperity coming after 6 years or so in college and a masters degree. Can't benefit from college, or can't afford it? Tough - poverty-level salary for you.
And you can't tax someone with a poverty-level income, so the country isn't going to be able to afford these luxuries, such as NASA, either. Face it, the US's time as the dominant economic and political force is over. Barring a radical restructuring of, say, the tax system which has been the engine of our jobs offshoring all these years, an economic train wreck is virtually certain - unless we see it coming and voluntarily give up these obviously unaffordable things, such as space research. We'll be lucky to have enough resources to defend ourselves successfully, actually.
You don't need science to refute this, you only need to look at the way it's presented - as a religion. Did you read, "State of Fear?" The last great hoax was eugenics - we saw where that went with Hitler. This is similar stuff - "the whole world is going to die unless you listen to us!" BS. This is just so much horse-hockey, with ulteriour motives of carting as much cash as possible out of the developed nations and spreading it around every 3rd world shit-hole on the planet. Well, its not going to work. We're finally getting to the bottom of this, and exposing the fraud. Maybe the fruadsters will go to jail. That'd be sweet. The supposed crisis would have cost us 50 trillion dollars by year 2050. That's far worse than any warming, rising sea level, etc. would be worth stopping. We're just going to live with whatever happens - that's what would have happeed after wasting $50T anyway - CO2 mitigation is doomed to fail anyway, since we need the energy and that's the only way to produce it right now.
People who can walk and chew gum at the same time realize that they have what it takes to increase their vigilence concerning their immediate surroundings, and can talk to someone outside the car and not crash like they can talk to someone inside the car and not crash. Some people shouldn't be driving at all, and these shouldn't be talking to either their phones or their passengers, but for the rest of us, we know its BS and continue to remain available and maybe even keep in touch by making a call or 2 when it's safe to drive with 1 hand.
As for the legal thing, we can see from the previous boneheaded law that nobody believed in but simply generated a pile of cash in fines of perfectly safe motorists, the 55 mph speed limit was also near-universially ignored by the motoring public and in some places even by the cops. You can't always simply pass a law and expect the sheeple to suffer willingly.
>I really do not understand why this has blown up into such a conflagration.
Lemme give you a hint: Its because this stuff is the basis of what many people have believed for quite some time to be junk science concocted to promote a socialist agenda throughout the world, but especially in the USA, via bankrupting it.
Bankrupt the USA, you have several hundred million people that "need help" because their jobs have gone overseas, the ones available pay sub-poverty wages, and there's no alternative to asking the government for help. Instant welfare state, with the new majority of poverty-stricken people having no choice but to go along with it.
Its already working - that's what this health care in the USA thing is about already. We WOULD NOT NEED such help for people if everyone was working in the good jobs that have gone overseas - manufacturing jobs in particular. And no, the unions aren't responsible for that, the income tax is, aided by rules and regulations designed to more squarely impact US industry than foreign industry (The US makes the BIG cars people want, the foriegn companies can't even compete in those areas - IOW, there is no equivalent of a Lincoln Town Car on the foreign market - LTC has about 19 cu. ft. of trunk space - nothing on the world scene competes. But BIG cars are harder to clean up, environmentally, so any attempt to do so screws US auto industries.)
Yeah, this is a big deal because the underpinnings of the AGW "crisis" is highly suspect by many, so when you have e-mails that state that the recent cooling is inexplicable to these climate scientists, yet there is no pause in the politics to say, "Wait a minute, we may not know as much as we thought we did", but instead things like Copenhagen charge on with the aim of making regulations that continue to gut American prosperty, then yeah, its a big deal.
It has been fairly obvious by observing the presentation of these findings that the political agenda is driving the data. The whole thing is just too illogical to take seriously.
For example, the AGW bunch is hard over to control CO2, however much non-cooperation that comes from the direction of India and China, negating the results of pouring far more money than anyone can afford to attain results that will be insufficient to the goal. Their own pronouncements (I remember something like a sub-1-degree improvement from the Kyoto treaty by the end of the century, where even the signers failed to achieve compliance) fueled credibility problems.
Adding to the credibility problems is the complete refusal to consider geoengineering approaches to the problem, some of which are quite inexpensive. The idea of a tipping point was foisted on the public, while the public reads in various news places about shooting sulphur into the atmoshphere to negate warming (which is unnecesssary at the moment, since we seem to be freezing our tails off if we're anywhere in the midwest...) The AGW proponents fail to consider or refute these approaches, which leaves the general public wondering what they're trying to pull.
The general public, a lot of them, believe that AGW is a fraud. Failure of the AGW crowd to address / embrace / refute geoengineering alternatives, while they press ahead with a singular goal of attacking CO2, which seems more effective at bankrupting the USA in particular than it does at reducing CO2, is extremely suspect to most anyone that gives it some thought.
DRM-free: EXACTLY! I'm just wondering how many that are "into vinyl" are just fed-up with the idiot copy protection and other nonsense that comes with some digital media.
OTOH, I got out my old vinyl from the 70's and 80's a few months ago and played some. The fidelity was surprisingly good, still. I feel that it compares favorably with anything I can play on my CD player.
Maybe I'll get a new turntable soon, if I can find something that treats the records as gently as my 40 year old Dual 1219 and is reasonably priced. I have a pile of vinyl to get digitized so I can listen in the car - that's one of those areas that was never solved - how to have vinyl quality in a mobile environment.
I have several yahoogroup lists, all archives are open, I have no spam problems.
My yahoogroups are set to moderate all new users. If someone joins and then spams, I'm the only one that sees it. I delete the spam, then the new user. Simple.
Its moot, really. The supposed "correct" way to handle incoming cell calls, pull over and answer, is unworkable most of the time anyway. At any highway speed, it takes longer than the time the call goes to viocemail to find a decent place to do it and get stopped from those speeds. In the city, there's not going to be a parking place where you need it.
What they need is a cell phone detector, and just declare that it's not legal to have a cell phone turned on in a car with only one occupant, the driver. Then I could turn my cell phone in, get out of the contract, and be $50 richer per month. The car is about the only place I use mine. If I'm home, I use the land line. Most everywhere else public (restaurants, movie theaters, etc.) you just piss people off if you use it, and lots and lots of places have cell phone bans. Even my health club has one (which I, of course, ignore. They put up those signs to placate the whiners that want to control their environment all the way out to the horizon - IOW, they want to be king - but don't enforce it.) But really, an effective cell phone ban in cars would be such a money-saving situation for me. Any _real_ emergency - well, I'm a ham radio operator, and I'll just get on the local repeater with a "mayday" call.
That's probably about all it'll be good for. If you're a Senior and your prospective job is with someone using an Eclipse / C++ programming environment, hope you have your own home computer to install it on. Otherwise, the computer you get from the schools is most probably capable of e-mail, uSoft Word, uSoft Excel, uSoft Access, and uSoft Powerpoint. Programming? Waaaaay too dangerous to have on the school machine...
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What I'm doing to help is promoting the fair tax at every opportunity. The American People are, indeed, the only ones that can pull this off, because they are the only ones that can cause our congresspeople to vote to kill the IRS and all the income taxes, and adopt the consumption tax that is the Fair Tax. That will get our industries back, for lots of reasons. But we have to do it with a grassroots campaign.
But the money is all GOVERNMENT SPENDING. Stop the gov't spending, and there's no NASA.
We want to do space, we should find a paying customer. Comm sats, Wx Sats, those could have paying customers. Even GPS could have paying customers if they weren't already being done by the military.
But NASA is just a huge money sink that we can't afford. Yeah, lots of science, medical stuff, etc. comes back, but these are things that we, as a bankrupt nation, can no longer afford. If we keep trying it, we're headed for an economic train wreck.
Yep, the USA is broke, but the poorly-kept secret is that its the INCOME TAX that is chasing jobs overseas, causing American businesses to be uncompetitive and therefore go bankrupt, and so forth. Lots of people know this. They just don't know what to do about it.
Here's a hint: Abolish the income tax. Replace it with a consumption tax. This is known as "The Fair tax", has been proposed for quite a few years now, and is gaining momentum, finally.
With the fair tax, the American businesses lose the corporate income tax of 35%. They can therefore afford to lower their prices. Foreign corporations are not paying US corporate income tax, so their products cannot be lowered in price. Then everything is "fair taxed" and foreign good end up costing more than domestic, USA-produced goods.
This will get thet factories back, the good jobs back. That's what we must have. Otherwise, the strategy of impoverishing the workforce, that seems to be preferred now, will keep us from taxing people sufficiently to do things like space exploration.
Read about it at www.fairtax.org. Takes a few months of considering it to see the benefits, but getting rid of the income tax is an "or else" situation. Do or die. We do it and have prosperity, or don't do it and suffer a steady decline as we have for the last 50 years.
NASA should be defunded completely, the launch pads closed, and the whole shebang turned into museums. That would at least bring in a little coin. Our country is broke, getting moreso, with no hope of actually ever balancing the budget while having all our other jobs outsourced, industries leaving, illegal aliens dragging down the charitable services, etc. etc.
Unless we can get our factories coming back, stop the outsourcing, etc., there's NASA and a whole whale of a lot of other things that gov't does that needs to be stopped. You can't tax people that have lost a good-paying tool-and-diemaking job, and are working some crappy-paying retail job, to do things like go to the moon or mars.
Get our industries back. Period. Otherwise, the military can do GPS, the commercial interests can keep launching comm satellites by paying the French to do it, and the military again needs weather info and so can do those satellites too. Everything else is just too expensive for the USA to be doing until we're back working again with GOOD PAYING jobs, not the near-poverty stuff we've been gravitating toward for the last 5 decades.
We don't need no steekin' tariff. All we need to do is pass the fair tax (www.fairtax.org). The removal of the IRS, all income taxes, etc. etc. from AMERICAN industry will cause the prices of AMERICAN goods to fall. Everything retail then gets taxed with the retail sales tax that is the Fair Tax, and foreign stuff ends up costing relatively more than American stuff. Yet, its not a tariff. That's what we should be working toward. Great potential for bringing back our industries from overseas, Mexico, and Canada. Broadens the base of taxpayers to include those that don't pay taxes now - rich people sitting on a pile and spending a little of it each year, illegal aliens, criminals (esp. the drug dealers making trillions of untaxed income), and, a new group, tourists. None of those are paying a dime now, so we get 142 million tax returns in 2008 for a country with 305 million citizens plus probably 20 million illegal aliens. That's nuts. We should have maybe 200+ tax returns. But with a retail sales tax, the inefficiency of even handling individual tax returns goes away, and the $$$ is simply collected when people buy new items at retail.
NASA is going nowhere unless the gov't stops the loss of our prosperity overseas. Yes, I mean outsourcing. Good manufacturing jobs get replaced with crap-wages retail jobs so more and more people live near the poverty line. You can't tax people like that to pay for sky adventures by NASA, and there's fewer and fewer rich people to tax, too. Eventually the Chinese are going to wise up and stop lending us money, and that'll be that for a whale of a lot of things, with things like NASA getting the axe first.
It would be beyond human capabilities to pilot these vehicles in the traffic densities necessary for commuting. This'll have to wait until the artificial intelligence is such that it can navigate the machines automatically, and the passenger can sleep all the way to work. Or wherever.
Having just flown LA to BWI for 5 hrs or so, I'm not fond of contemplating flying propellor aircraft, which an electric almost certainly would have to be, that far. Make airliners to be powered by scramjets - that I'm interested in - but for prop stuff, lets stick to commuting to work. This'll be practical when we get the true autopilot, that you tell where you want to go, and it gets you there. IOW, AI to the max.
Or if they're pirates chasing commercial shipping off the coast of Africa.
... during last week's 8 degree mornings with ice all over the place and a bunch of Virginians that can barely drive anyway trying to kill me. No thanks.
Actually, we CAN compete with slave wages. The price of a good or service is the sum of its costs. If they attack with slave wages, we counter with zero taxes on manufacturing.
We CAN win this, but we absolutely, positively must get rid of the income taxes.
And the income tax is driving the offshoring. Repeal it, run the country on a consumption tax. This will tilt the playing field back toward America, stop the offshoring, and bring prosperity back to the USA. See www.fairtax.org.
and have the extra TIME to travel, I'll be driving more places, for sure. So what if it takes me 3 1/2 days to get to LA from Virginia? They'll at least be pleasant, I'll get to see a lotta scenery, maybe take a few pictures, and bypass the BS. If they ever get the high speed rail working, I might take that... if there's no security BS to put up with (pointless in a train - the terrorists just blow up the tracks..)
WTF? You WANT these a-holes sneaking into the country? Why?
This is exactly right on. In all acutality, we can't afford NASA at all, and should quit thinking of going into space for pure research. Wx sattelites can be handled by private industry, or not. GPS is the military's baliwick. Communications - private industry.
The hard, cruel fact is that we DON'T have the money and are NOT GOING to have the money, ever again. The country is in decline, as it has been for the last 50 years or so when textiles moved largely overseas, followed by consumer electronics, then big parts of our steel and auto industries, and now intellectual industries such as software.
Eventually it is _all_ going to be overseas save the (generally poor paying) service industry jobs, including the famously poor paying retail jobs with sucky hours to boot. The country is going to be left with the only prosperity coming after 6 years or so in college and a masters degree. Can't benefit from college, or can't afford it? Tough - poverty-level salary for you.
And you can't tax someone with a poverty-level income, so the country isn't going to be able to afford these luxuries, such as NASA, either. Face it, the US's time as the dominant economic and political force is over. Barring a radical restructuring of, say, the tax system which has been the engine of our jobs offshoring all these years, an economic train wreck is virtually certain - unless we see it coming and voluntarily give up these obviously unaffordable things, such as space research. We'll be lucky to have enough resources to defend ourselves successfully, actually.
You don't need science to refute this, you only need to look at the way it's presented - as a religion. Did you read, "State of Fear?" The last great hoax was eugenics - we saw where that went with Hitler. This is similar stuff - "the whole world is going to die unless you listen to us!" BS. This is just so much horse-hockey, with ulteriour motives of carting as much cash as possible out of the developed nations and spreading it around every 3rd world shit-hole on the planet. Well, its not going to work. We're finally getting to the bottom of this, and exposing the fraud. Maybe the fruadsters will go to jail. That'd be sweet. The supposed crisis would have cost us 50 trillion dollars by year 2050. That's far worse than any warming, rising sea level, etc. would be worth stopping. We're just going to live with whatever happens - that's what would have happeed after wasting $50T anyway - CO2 mitigation is doomed to fail anyway, since we need the energy and that's the only way to produce it right now.
People who can walk and chew gum at the same time realize that they have what it takes to increase their vigilence concerning their immediate surroundings, and can talk to someone outside the car and not crash like they can talk to someone inside the car and not crash. Some people shouldn't be driving at all, and these shouldn't be talking to either their phones or their passengers, but for the rest of us, we know its BS and continue to remain available and maybe even keep in touch by making a call or 2 when it's safe to drive with 1 hand.
As for the legal thing, we can see from the previous boneheaded law that nobody believed in but simply generated a pile of cash in fines of perfectly safe motorists, the 55 mph speed limit was also near-universially ignored by the motoring public and in some places even by the cops. You can't always simply pass a law and expect the sheeple to suffer willingly.
>I really do not understand why this has blown up into such a conflagration.
Lemme give you a hint: Its because this stuff is the basis of what many people have believed for quite some time to be junk science concocted to promote a socialist agenda throughout the world, but especially in the USA, via bankrupting it.
Bankrupt the USA, you have several hundred million people that "need help" because their jobs have gone overseas, the ones available pay sub-poverty wages, and there's no alternative to asking the government for help. Instant welfare state, with the new majority of poverty-stricken people having no choice but to go along with it.
Its already working - that's what this health care in the USA thing is about already. We WOULD NOT NEED such help for people if everyone was working in the good jobs that have gone overseas - manufacturing jobs in particular. And no, the unions aren't responsible for that, the income tax is, aided by rules and regulations designed to more squarely impact US industry than foreign industry (The US makes the BIG cars people want, the foriegn companies can't even compete in those areas - IOW, there is no equivalent of a Lincoln Town Car on the foreign market - LTC has about 19 cu. ft. of trunk space - nothing on the world scene competes. But BIG cars are harder to clean up, environmentally, so any attempt to do so screws US auto industries.)
Yeah, this is a big deal because the underpinnings of the AGW "crisis" is highly suspect by many, so when you have e-mails that state that the recent cooling is inexplicable to these climate scientists, yet there is no pause in the politics to say, "Wait a minute, we may not know as much as we thought we did", but instead things like Copenhagen charge on with the aim of making regulations that continue to gut American prosperty, then yeah, its a big deal.
Exactly.
It has been fairly obvious by observing the presentation of these findings that the political agenda is driving the data. The whole thing is just too illogical to take seriously.
For example, the AGW bunch is hard over to control CO2, however much non-cooperation that comes from the direction of India and China, negating the results of pouring far more money than anyone can afford to attain results that will be insufficient to the goal. Their own pronouncements (I remember something like a sub-1-degree improvement from the Kyoto treaty by the end of the century, where even the signers failed to achieve compliance) fueled credibility problems.
Adding to the credibility problems is the complete refusal to consider geoengineering approaches to the problem, some of which are quite inexpensive. The idea of a tipping point was foisted on the public, while the public reads in various news places about shooting sulphur into the atmoshphere to negate warming (which is unnecesssary at the moment, since we seem to be freezing our tails off if we're anywhere in the midwest...) The AGW proponents fail to consider or refute these approaches, which leaves the general public wondering what they're trying to pull.
The general public, a lot of them, believe that AGW is a fraud. Failure of the AGW crowd to address / embrace / refute geoengineering alternatives, while they press ahead with a singular goal of attacking CO2, which seems more effective at bankrupting the USA in particular than it does at reducing CO2, is extremely suspect to most anyone that gives it some thought.
DRM-free: EXACTLY! I'm just wondering how many that are "into vinyl" are just fed-up with the idiot copy protection and other nonsense that comes with some digital media.
OTOH, I got out my old vinyl from the 70's and 80's a few months ago and played some. The fidelity was surprisingly good, still. I feel that it compares favorably with anything I can play on my CD player.
Maybe I'll get a new turntable soon, if I can find something that treats the records as gently as my 40 year old Dual 1219 and is reasonably priced. I have a pile of vinyl to get digitized so I can listen in the car - that's one of those areas that was never solved - how to have vinyl quality in a mobile environment.
>For his expertise, he was rewarded with an all-expense-paid trip to Baghdad in 2003...
And in his tank, it goes something like this:
"Yea tho I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil...
for I am the biggest, badest, mother******er in the valley..."
seem to have branched out into other areas, and are now blaming other inanimate objects, this time minerals, for human failings.
I have several yahoogroup lists, all archives are open, I have no spam problems. My yahoogroups are set to moderate all new users. If someone joins and then spams, I'm the only one that sees it. I delete the spam, then the new user. Simple.
Its moot, really. The supposed "correct" way to handle incoming cell calls, pull over and answer, is unworkable most of the time anyway. At any highway speed, it takes longer than the time the call goes to viocemail to find a decent place to do it and get stopped from those speeds. In the city, there's not going to be a parking place where you need it. What they need is a cell phone detector, and just declare that it's not legal to have a cell phone turned on in a car with only one occupant, the driver. Then I could turn my cell phone in, get out of the contract, and be $50 richer per month. The car is about the only place I use mine. If I'm home, I use the land line. Most everywhere else public (restaurants, movie theaters, etc.) you just piss people off if you use it, and lots and lots of places have cell phone bans. Even my health club has one (which I, of course, ignore. They put up those signs to placate the whiners that want to control their environment all the way out to the horizon - IOW, they want to be king - but don't enforce it.) But really, an effective cell phone ban in cars would be such a money-saving situation for me. Any _real_ emergency - well, I'm a ham radio operator, and I'll just get on the local repeater with a "mayday" call.
That's probably about all it'll be good for. If you're a Senior and your prospective job is with someone using an Eclipse / C++ programming environment, hope you have your own home computer to install it on. Otherwise, the computer you get from the schools is most probably capable of e-mail, uSoft Word, uSoft Excel, uSoft Access, and uSoft Powerpoint. Programming? Waaaaay too dangerous to have on the school machine...