"No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."
Come on, how could you folks forget that? There were definitely MP3 players before the iPod. They just happen to do it well.
I wish people would stop parroting this fallacy all the time. Market share has nothing to do with how easy it is to break into a system.
Look at AROS! It has no security whatsoever, not even memory management between processes, so despite only having a hundred or so users, it must have zillions of virusses. But, of course, it DOESN'T. So far as I'm aware, nobody's bothered to write one, and it's unlikely any AROS virus would actually be effective.
All viruses require a reasonable level of market share to operate, because one of the principles they rely upon is a network effect, and you just plain cannot get a network effect without a decent market share. So marketshare is, very much, a pre-requisite for a successful virus. It's not the only one, but when people say "Mac OS X hasn't been attacked yet because it doesn't have enough marketshare", they're right. That's one fundamental reason. And unless you can show that any other reasons apply, it's likely to be the only reason.
Well look at the earlier days of the Mac. Mac OS 9 it had a smaller market share than we have now (~4.6% in 2001 according to IDC) and yet had more viruses. Only reason my a**.
I'm surprised we haven't seen anything major. Current installed base is <20 million (1997 numbers, Wikipedia), with almost all without any anti-virus stuff installed. You'd think that would be an interesting enough target.
I'll also tell you it's pretty serious when you see a Fedex plane with a cargo fire in the evening news and later find out that your shipment was on it. And oh... it's not covered because it was considered an 'Act of God'.
I think the whole smaller market share as security is a myth... at least as a main reason, IMHO. I'm sure it has some effect but nothing as big as people say. Currently there are at least ~26 million Macs out there (being very conservative), which is still a lot of machines. Heck, even Mac OS 9 had more viruses and Macs had a much smaller market share. I'm sure somebody would have done something by now if it was easy.
Yeah, I'd assume that's the main reason -- they want to force people to sign up for additional accounts. Well, if you gonna do that... you should at least make it easy for people transfer their profile data to a new account. To, you know... encourage people to do it.
It says that you can't transfer your profile data to another account (from their FAQ). It's like they don't want customers!
I expect them to lose a lot of customers over this. Glad I don't own any of their stock... it's gonna tank.
I am replying directly to your post vs replying to Psychotria so you'll actual see it since I have 'bad karma' [sigh]... I second the recommendation to read Eddings but suggest you read only the first series- "The Belgariad". The first series is the best. That's where you'll get some fun ideas and concepts. You can still tell that he is trying to find his voice/style/world so the series is very exciting and new. After that, the other series seem to be too formulaic.
Why do people always think that quality control is a simple solution to teachers?! Just get rid of the 'bad' ones and only have 'good' teachers... right? WRONG. People never think it through! So you get rid of the 'bad' teachers, then what? Who do you replace them with? Just grab another off the shelf and you are all set, right? I'm sure there a just a zillion good teachers just waiting around, just twiddling their thumbs.
Do you know how much shit people have to go through to teach already? Training, certification, a$$hole parents, a$$hole kids, and not great pay. Do you think any of these will go away by privitizing education? I think you are sadly mistaken.
I propose we setup a slashdot iPhone 'recycling' program for all the 'bricked' iPhones. Just send them to a 'processing center' (my house) and we will make sure they are properly 'disposed'.
Anyone else want to help me out to make sure these toxic devices don't end up in the landfill?
Hold on - are you saying that Mac's have a better reputation for security than linux? Ah... no.
Congratulations sir. Apple fanboy's capacity for self-delusion never ceases to amaze me. Okaaaay... I'm a fanboy? Wow, you sir have a RDF right up there with Mr. Steve.
Uhh what? The Air has nothing to do with it. All fully patched machines running OS X with the latest Safari 3.1 are vulnerable to this exploit. And you mean a exploit targeting fully patched Vista SP1 or Ubuntu 7.10 won't make headlines? Think again. No, he's right. Notice how people (and even yourself) are mentioning that it's an "Air" vs a Mac or Mac OS 10.5.2. To me that is proof in itself that the Air has a bigger cache and therefore a more attractive target.
But the mac got hacked in two minutes and the Vista and Ubuntu machines resisted every hack.
You aren't totally correct on that. The article says "He was the first contestant to attempt an attack on any of the systems." (on the second day). None of the systems fell on the remote only side but when it came to test user interaction the Mac was the first one tested. I'm still waiting for the result on the other machines. It is what a lot of us suspected... because of Apple's rep., people would be eager to take on the Mac first. It is still not to say it isn't bad... oh, it is. But the contest isn't over yet.
Now if Vista and Ubutunu machines are tested by folks and hold up, then that news is more interesting to me.
My bet is on the Vista machine having an exploit but not Ubuntu.
No, you still do have energy independence even if the manufacturing of solar cells are done overseas. Here's why it's different from oil- oil is geographically fixed, manufacture of solar cells isn't. If the cost of manufacturing solar cells gets to high (politically or monetarily), change where they are built. If it gets too high outside the US, just bring it inside. You can't do that with oil because it is fixed in the ground.
I think the only problem I see is with the patents (and maybe raw materials if some sort rare mineral is required for some sort of new manufacturing process... then we are back to the geography/resource problem- unlikely, but possible). If the US doesn't own the manufacturing methods then we could be screwed. This is why the research is very important. If we've got that then I think solar will be a good solution for energy independence.
Aw man, if only I had this yesterday! Just had someone download ~6GB worth of video files from one of my machines and just as it shows in the article, throughput was pegged at ~2MB/sec. It took most of a day to send it. This would also kick some serious bootae for uploads to YouTube if they were to ever implement it... for those of us uploading GBs of GBs of stuff.
The FCC should get out of regulation of content. This way the Parents Television Council complaints go to the broadcasters instead of the government. Complaints of improper use of a frequency range, communication disruptions, broadcasting power, etc.- sure but content- nope, nadda, zip. I like how the PTC say that it is okay for the 'public good' and children could be watching at anytime- so what, it's a thing called parenting.
Oh I agree with you. You can definitely build a cheaper PC than upgrade a Mac. I'm not saying whether or not it is better, just that there are other options other than new Mac Pro to get an upgradable Mac.
"Not to mention the minimum buy-in for an new 'upgradable' Mac is a US$2500 Mac Pro."
Just a little edit. Actually you can get an upgradable Mac for far less. Any of the earlier towers will work fine that way (G4, G5, MacPro). I've got an old Sawtooth G4 (400Mhz, circa 1999) tower that I've upgraded the heck out of (1.4Ghz G4, Radeon 8500, 1Gb HD, 120 Gb, 300Gb, USB2, DVD-R, internal card reader), and it still runs great, even with the latest OS.
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"No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." Come on, how could you folks forget that? There were definitely MP3 players before the iPod. They just happen to do it well.
Look at AROS! It has no security whatsoever, not even memory management between processes, so despite only having a hundred or so users, it must have zillions of virusses. But, of course, it DOESN'T. So far as I'm aware, nobody's bothered to write one, and it's unlikely any AROS virus would actually be effective.
All viruses require a reasonable level of market share to operate, because one of the principles they rely upon is a network effect, and you just plain cannot get a network effect without a decent market share. So marketshare is, very much, a pre-requisite for a successful virus. It's not the only one, but when people say "Mac OS X hasn't been attacked yet because it doesn't have enough marketshare", they're right. That's one fundamental reason. And unless you can show that any other reasons apply, it's likely to be the only reason.
Well look at the earlier days of the Mac. Mac OS 9 it had a smaller market share than we have now (~4.6% in 2001 according to IDC) and yet had more viruses. Only reason my a**.
I'm surprised we haven't seen anything major. Current installed base is <20 million (1997 numbers, Wikipedia), with almost all without any anti-virus stuff installed. You'd think that would be an interesting enough target.
THIS IS BULLSHIT!
I think you mean BUSHSHIT
I'll also tell you it's pretty serious when you see a Fedex plane with a cargo fire in the evening news and later find out that your shipment was on it. And oh... it's not covered because it was considered an 'Act of God'.
I think the whole smaller market share as security is a myth... at least as a main reason, IMHO. I'm sure it has some effect but nothing as big as people say. Currently there are at least ~26 million Macs out there (being very conservative), which is still a lot of machines. Heck, even Mac OS 9 had more viruses and Macs had a much smaller market share. I'm sure somebody would have done something by now if it was easy.
NetFlix you are doing it wrong!
It says that you can't transfer your profile data to another account (from their FAQ). It's like they don't want customers! I expect them to lose a lot of customers over this. Glad I don't own any of their stock... it's gonna tank.
Somebody needs to correct this! It's even the Air Force, just like in movies.
I am replying directly to your post vs replying to Psychotria so you'll actual see it since I have 'bad karma' [sigh]... I second the recommendation to read Eddings but suggest you read only the first series- "The Belgariad". The first series is the best. That's where you'll get some fun ideas and concepts. You can still tell that he is trying to find his voice/style/world so the series is very exciting and new. After that, the other series seem to be too formulaic.
Why do people always think that quality control is a simple solution to teachers?! Just get rid of the 'bad' ones and only have 'good' teachers... right? WRONG. People never think it through! So you get rid of the 'bad' teachers, then what? Who do you replace them with? Just grab another off the shelf and you are all set, right? I'm sure there a just a zillion good teachers just waiting around, just twiddling their thumbs.
Do you know how much shit people have to go through to teach already? Training, certification, a$$hole parents, a$$hole kids, and not great pay. Do you think any of these will go away by privitizing education? I think you are sadly mistaken.
I propose we setup a slashdot iPhone 'recycling' program for all the 'bricked' iPhones. Just send them to a 'processing center' (my house) and we will make sure they are properly 'disposed'.
;) nudge nudge
Anyone else want to help me out to make sure these toxic devices don't end up in the landfill?
;)
So is it official that the Vista and Ubuntu machines have survived day 2??! Judging from the blog... it isn't:
Update 5:45 PST - The contest is officially over for today. Check back tomorrow to see how the Vista and Ubuntu laptops fare.
Do you have an inside scoop??
But the mac got hacked in two minutes and the Vista and Ubuntu machines resisted every hack.
You aren't totally correct on that. The article says "He was the first contestant to attempt an attack on any of the systems." (on the second day). None of the systems fell on the remote only side but when it came to test user interaction the Mac was the first one tested. I'm still waiting for the result on the other machines. It is what a lot of us suspected... because of Apple's rep., people would be eager to take on the Mac first. It is still not to say it isn't bad... oh, it is. But the contest isn't over yet.
Now if Vista and Ubutunu machines are tested by folks and hold up, then that news is more interesting to me.
My bet is on the Vista machine having an exploit but not Ubuntu.
Nonsense... they just go to hexadecimal: A100GT, A100GTS, A100GTX, etc. Mind you that only buys them another five generations. :)
Don't crucify him for just one word mixed up.
:)
Uh, have you read comments on slashdot much? Duh.
No, no Skynet risk from Office or Visual Studio. If they every become self-aware they will surely commit suicide.
If it's anything like what some people do... maybe it will try to take as many people down as it can and then commit suicide.
No, you still do have energy independence even if the manufacturing of solar cells are done overseas. Here's why it's different from oil- oil is geographically fixed, manufacture of solar cells isn't. If the cost of manufacturing solar cells gets to high (politically or monetarily), change where they are built. If it gets too high outside the US, just bring it inside. You can't do that with oil because it is fixed in the ground. I think the only problem I see is with the patents (and maybe raw materials if some sort rare mineral is required for some sort of new manufacturing process... then we are back to the geography/resource problem- unlikely, but possible). If the US doesn't own the manufacturing methods then we could be screwed. This is why the research is very important. If we've got that then I think solar will be a good solution for energy independence.
Wow... I know Walter Lewin's lectures are exciting but I think that pushing it ;-)
Aw man, if only I had this yesterday! Just had someone download ~6GB worth of video files from one of my machines and just as it shows in the article, throughput was pegged at ~2MB/sec. It took most of a day to send it. This would also kick some serious bootae for uploads to YouTube if they were to ever implement it... for those of us uploading GBs of GBs of stuff.
The FCC should get out of regulation of content. This way the Parents Television Council complaints go to the broadcasters instead of the government. Complaints of improper use of a frequency range, communication disruptions, broadcasting power, etc.- sure but content- nope, nadda, zip. I like how the PTC say that it is okay for the 'public good' and children could be watching at anytime- so what, it's a thing called parenting.
However, if it floats your bloat, continue using it. --there, fixed it for you! ;^)
Oh I agree with you. You can definitely build a cheaper PC than upgrade a Mac. I'm not saying whether or not it is better, just that there are other options other than new Mac Pro to get an upgradable Mac.
"Not to mention the minimum buy-in for an new 'upgradable' Mac is a US$2500 Mac Pro."
Just a little edit. Actually you can get an upgradable Mac for far less. Any of the earlier towers will work fine that way (G4, G5, MacPro). I've got an old Sawtooth G4 (400Mhz, circa 1999) tower that I've upgraded the heck out of (1.4Ghz G4, Radeon 8500, 1Gb HD, 120 Gb, 300Gb, USB2, DVD-R, internal card reader), and it still runs great, even with the latest OS.