I've already gone back and ripped out the p.o.s. HP bloatware and reinstalled just the drivers on a couple of the XP boxes. They still fail to print docs unless properly massaged (computer off, printer off, printer on, computer on)
The cameras are a couple Kodak cameras, an Olympus, and a Canon. I don't have the cameras in front of me, and can't remember the exact models, but they are average point-and-shoot digital cameras in the 5 - 8 mp range. I haven't tried them on Vista.
Yes, "fine" is a matter of perspective, and I certainly won't claim that Linux will work with anything and everything. However, my experience with it has been excellent on a variety of different hardware. Does that make me biased?
Just because you assert it as the truth does not make it so
Right back at you. You make an extremely specious argument here. Sure the Linux forums have tech support questions and issues. Surprise! That's what they are there for. Same reason MS and their various OEMs have support phone lines, instant chat, etc. If you were able to read the transcripts of a MS support call or support chat log, you would find lots of similar issues.
Thatks for mentioning wireless support. I forgot to mention it earlier. After using Linux and Windows on 3 machines (2 laptops, 1 desktop) with 3 different wireless cards, I can report that the Windows boxes gave me more trouble than the Linux boxes. In each case, the Linux box "just worked". In one case, the Win box "just worked". for the others I had to sacrifice a chicken to Bill Gates to get the mfr's driver to work, and they still aren't as stable as they were under Linux.
You are obviously don't understand Linux, and lack any recent (last several years) Linux experience. The driver support in Linux is generally very good, and in a few cases I have experienced, better* than in Windows. Users have no problem using basic Linux apps. If I have one of my kids go use one of my Linux boxes to do a research paper for school, they have no problem with Firefox and Openoffice. Play some mp3's? Sure, just click on it. Burn a CD or DVD? No problem. Click on K3B. It's right on the desktop. The list goes on. The only people I know who have used Linux and don't feel comfortable with it (after a small learning curve, as you would expect with ANY unfamiliar technology) are people who don't feel comfortable with computers in general, even with Windows (my wife, probably her mother too if I could ever get her to touch a computer).
Note that I am talking about using the system, not administering it. Users generally fail badly when doing administrative tasks on any platform; Win, Lin, or other.
*"better": Generally, I am speaking about my experience with a home network of Win XP boxes, a couple Solaris boxes, and a couple boxes with some flavor of Linux, generally Debian-related.
- HP Photosmart C7280 printer: Windows software is bloated, runs like crap. Win machines have a hard time locating the printer on the network. Documents from Win boxes routinely fail to print. Linux boxes find it on the network easily, the drivers work great, and I have never lost a print job from a Linux box.
- Digital cameras (several of them): Plug them into a Linux box, they just work. Windows box? You'd better have the proprietary software that came with the camera.
- Various motherboards with different built-in graphics, sound, and other interfaces: Linux generally has a driver that can run things just fine. Windows? Generally, a new install requires that I surf the web in 640x480 vga with 256 colors until I find the MB manufacturer's web site and hope they have a decent driver.
Mods, have you lost your collective fucking minds? How the hell is this a troll? Do you know what a real troll is? A troll is not the first comment you see that you don't like. For future reference, this is a troll. Even if you don't agree with the guy, for fuck's sake don't use mod points to censor.
I see. So, what you're saying is that you don't have any technological know-how to give the Iranian guy in TFS, and you'd rather offer a geopolitical rant instead?
Some things are more eventual than others. Theoretically, yes, you might get laid eventually, but the chances of that happening put it beyond the date of the predicted planetary smashup, so in reality, no.
Yeah, I know you're only joking, but judging from the zillion+ posts that have followed regarding USA being too evil and warlike, few other slashdotters get it. (Is there a USA corollary to Godwin's Law? If not, I am claiming its invention, as well as its naming rights. It shall hereby be referred to as "Alfred's Law", or more properly as "Alfred's Corollary". Its definition shall be as follows: As a internet discussion grows longer, the probability of it degenerating into an anti-US rant approaches 1.)
The answer to the author's question is simple. Research gives results eventually. The car companies need cash now. If government-funded research like this were to have helped the US car manufacturers by now, it should have been started several years ago. If this research starts today, it will bear fruit some years from now, and take some years after that to show up in production models.
What exactly are you trying to promote about yourself? What do you do? Do you want visitors to learn something about you, or are you just filling your corner of the internet with random web apps?
We can't help you if we don't know what you're trying to accomplish.
Actually, you might not have to do anything to go there. It's more of a right-place, right-time kind of thing. Other than that, try to grow a beard and a dark skin tone, and brush up on your Arabic and/or Farsi. Becoming enemies with an Afghan warlord is a helpful plus.
I like it and laughed when I read it, but still feel the need to argue. 1) Dunkin Donuts is good stuff, brother. 2) I've never been approached by a Dunkinite bent on my conversion. 3) Dunkin has never (to my knowledge) edited parts out of Wikipedia it didn't like. At least if they did, they did a better job than CoS, and didn't get caught. Repeatedly.
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I've already gone back and ripped out the p.o.s. HP bloatware and reinstalled just the drivers on a couple of the XP boxes. They still fail to print docs unless properly massaged (computer off, printer off, printer on, computer on) The cameras are a couple Kodak cameras, an Olympus, and a Canon. I don't have the cameras in front of me, and can't remember the exact models, but they are average point-and-shoot digital cameras in the 5 - 8 mp range. I haven't tried them on Vista.
Yes, "fine" is a matter of perspective, and I certainly won't claim that Linux will work with anything and everything. However, my experience with it has been excellent on a variety of different hardware. Does that make me biased?
My pleasure.
Nice sig, btw.
Just because you assert it as the truth does not make it so
Right back at you. You make an extremely specious argument here. Sure the Linux forums have tech support questions and issues. Surprise! That's what they are there for. Same reason MS and their various OEMs have support phone lines, instant chat, etc. If you were able to read the transcripts of a MS support call or support chat log, you would find lots of similar issues.
Thatks for mentioning wireless support. I forgot to mention it earlier. After using Linux and Windows on 3 machines (2 laptops, 1 desktop) with 3 different wireless cards, I can report that the Windows boxes gave me more trouble than the Linux boxes. In each case, the Linux box "just worked". In one case, the Win box "just worked". for the others I had to sacrifice a chicken to Bill Gates to get the mfr's driver to work, and they still aren't as stable as they were under Linux.
You are obviously don't understand Linux, and lack any recent (last several years) Linux experience. The driver support in Linux is generally very good, and in a few cases I have experienced, better* than in Windows. Users have no problem using basic Linux apps. If I have one of my kids go use one of my Linux boxes to do a research paper for school, they have no problem with Firefox and Openoffice. Play some mp3's? Sure, just click on it. Burn a CD or DVD? No problem. Click on K3B. It's right on the desktop. The list goes on. The only people I know who have used Linux and don't feel comfortable with it (after a small learning curve, as you would expect with ANY unfamiliar technology) are people who don't feel comfortable with computers in general, even with Windows (my wife, probably her mother too if I could ever get her to touch a computer).
Note that I am talking about using the system, not administering it. Users generally fail badly when doing administrative tasks on any platform; Win, Lin, or other.
*"better": Generally, I am speaking about my experience with a home network of Win XP boxes, a couple Solaris boxes, and a couple boxes with some flavor of Linux, generally Debian-related.
- HP Photosmart C7280 printer: Windows software is bloated, runs like crap. Win machines have a hard time locating the printer on the network. Documents from Win boxes routinely fail to print. Linux boxes find it on the network easily, the drivers work great, and I have never lost a print job from a Linux box.
- Digital cameras (several of them): Plug them into a Linux box, they just work. Windows box? You'd better have the proprietary software that came with the camera.
- Various motherboards with different built-in graphics, sound, and other interfaces: Linux generally has a driver that can run things just fine. Windows? Generally, a new install requires that I surf the web in 640x480 vga with 256 colors until I find the MB manufacturer's web site and hope they have a decent driver.
Mods, have you lost your collective fucking minds? How the hell is this a troll? Do you know what a real troll is? A troll is not the first comment you see that you don't like. For future reference, this is a troll. Even if you don't agree with the guy, for fuck's sake don't use mod points to censor.
Windows 7 final will include a "boot straight into porn" mode.
Finally! A new Windows feature that is actually useful.
Next domains to be built:
democracy.bing.com
dissent.bing.com
Didn't Tennessee vote against Gore in 2000?
Funny, I see Ahmadinejad as an Iranian version of Bush.
I see. So, what you're saying is that you don't have any technological know-how to give the Iranian guy in TFS, and you'd rather offer a geopolitical rant instead?
Can't you read the signs? Don't feed the animals.
Sadly, my not getting the joke rarely has anything to do with the quality of the joke itself.
Being a /. troll and all, I doubt he has ever needed one, or ever will.
Some things are more eventual than others. Theoretically, yes, you might get laid eventually, but the chances of that happening put it beyond the date of the predicted planetary smashup, so in reality, no.
Yeah, I know you're only joking, but judging from the zillion+ posts that have followed regarding USA being too evil and warlike, few other slashdotters get it. (Is there a USA corollary to Godwin's Law? If not, I am claiming its invention, as well as its naming rights. It shall hereby be referred to as "Alfred's Law", or more properly as "Alfred's Corollary". Its definition shall be as follows: As a internet discussion grows longer, the probability of it degenerating into an anti-US rant approaches 1.)
The answer to the author's question is simple. Research gives results eventually. The car companies need cash now. If government-funded research like this were to have helped the US car manufacturers by now, it should have been started several years ago. If this research starts today, it will bear fruit some years from now, and take some years after that to show up in production models.
The Chinese typically vote against intervening in countries where they have a vested interest (often financial) in maintaining the status quo.
WTF mods? Troll? Hardly. I laughed my damn ass off. +1 Funny, please.
Well done sir.
Sorry is no excuse. ;)
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Meatspace DDoS?
What exactly are you trying to promote about yourself? What do you do? Do you want visitors to learn something about you, or are you just filling your corner of the internet with random web apps?
We can't help you if we don't know what you're trying to accomplish.
+5 Painful, painful truth.
Hilarious citation for you re: H2 POS off-road. Hilarious if you aren't driving it.
Actually, you might not have to do anything to go there. It's more of a right-place, right-time kind of thing. Other than that, try to grow a beard and a dark skin tone, and brush up on your Arabic and/or Farsi. Becoming enemies with an Afghan warlord is a helpful plus.
I like it and laughed when I read it, but still feel the need to argue. 1) Dunkin Donuts is good stuff, brother. 2) I've never been approached by a Dunkinite bent on my conversion. 3) Dunkin has never (to my knowledge) edited parts out of Wikipedia it didn't like. At least if they did, they did a better job than CoS, and didn't get caught. Repeatedly.