A lot of people have been burned repeatedly by Microsoft's empty promises. Most have also had to deal with a lot of astroturfing.
Believe it or not the fanboys who wont change their minds are not a majority. Many are just cautious and have many doubts due to past experience. Such doubts don't vanish overnight, and aren't helped by dismissive comments like the parent here.
Again I ask:
How does this protect against the Hyper-V product being changed to be incompatible with the GPL drivers in the future. What guarentee do we have that compatibility will be maintained or the drivers updated?
GPL drivers don't do much good if they aren't compatible with the hypervisor. Otherwise we'd be using Xen drivers on Hyper-V wouldn't we?
I know I'm jumping to conclusions a bit, but this is a company with a very long history of this kind of behavior. Even after several court cases and many promises.
(Hope I get answers, instead of just getting modded up, then suddenly down into oblivion again)
They are releasing the drivers as open source, not the underlying product. I've not looked at the Hyper-V product very closely, but it seems to me that once they control the market, they only need to change the Hyper-V product to be incompatible with the GPL drivers. In that case, what good would a fork do?
which makes me wonder if MS is purposely gimping their linux/unix implementation.
That would be consistent with their business strategy. So the answer is probably "Yes, they are gimping the implimentation of thier silverlight system that runs on competing platforms by implimenting features requiring incompatible licensing rather than using one of the less expensive alternatives."
I found it counterintuitive at first but, after some experimentation I've found many classic sedentary activities are actually easier and more enjoyable if you find some way to make them a bit more physically active. I guess the human body is adapted to move more than once every hour or two. As well, the brain seems to be as or more active when the body is somewhat active than when the body is in a resting state. My daydreams are more detailed when I'm walking then when I'm laying on a couch.
At first the increased physical activity can be difficult and uncomfortable for someone who isn't accustomed to it. Similarly sitting around all day not moving can lead to discomfort for someone accostomed to being active. Just because its what you're used to doesn't mean its better.
That seems overly simplistic. You could argue that ensuring the survival of your community is as or more important than your direct offspring. Why should evolution only operate on direct decendants when we exist as interdependant societies?
Canonical? You mean Ubuntu? Different editions of Ubuntu ship with different default browsers, and many have other browsers bundled that you can switch to. Also they aren't trying to leverage one monopoly to gain others.
Its insane to try and apply the same rules to a monopoly as you do to competative markets. It doesn't work. Pure free markets work about as well as communism, it seems both end up with a very small group of people owning/controlling everything. Funny how opposing extremes resemble eachother so closely.
Microsoft's solution of not bundling IE is pretty transparent. Looking at their history I wouldn't be surprised if they offered the manufacturers additional incentives to bundle IE for them.
There are a lot of comments about this being a money grab by the EU from an American company. Given the income Microsoft gains from EU countries, this is hardly fair. This does reflect poorly on Americans, it seems to show some strange misguided belief that everyone else is dirt poor and trying to leech off them. I wonder what percentage of Microsoft's revenue comes from the USA and what percentage from the EU...
So how does that American DMCA law work again? I send an email and anything I dislike gets removed without annoying questions or due process right?
So can I send in a DMCA takedown against USTR's press release and get it removed from their webpage? Or do I have to find some upstream provider to send it to that will disconnect the entire USTR site without questioning the validity of my takedown notice?
Uhm... Did I miss something? "You spew murky polluted air" is a compliment now? How about "you are a big idiot"? I don't know, maybe I just don't read carefully enough before posting.
Your use of North America in response to "Americans" and your grouping of Canadians in with that seems to be implying that Canadians are Americans. Does this mean Mexicans are also Americans?
If so, does this mean Canadians and Mexicans can now vote in US federal elections?
It depends on the CD protection. The protection scheme they are talking about doesn't just check the CD is there when you start the game, but rather checks constantly, or at least frequently. These frequent checks can cause problems and slow down the computer.
I thought the speed limit thing was because breaking the speed limit is dangerous to yourself and others, and killing people is generally considered immoral.
Wouldn't it be funny (in a horrible horrible way) if one of those tribes carried some variant of a disease like smallpox still, and contacting them released a plague upon our highly interconnected modern world?
Of course, contacting them could quite literally contaminate them, with disease. Kill off most of them just by sneezing.
A larger more diverse population would be a larger breeding ground for more deadly diseases would it not? Isn't that what happened to the native populations of the Americas way back when the Europeans first came?
Oh, and it is too hard to develop other interests besides guns? Are you really blaming that for this kids issues? Sounded more like he was blaming "fanatically obsessive" parents to me, and that little story was illustrating how they where "fanatically obsessive."
I've got to agree to an extent, you've passed the point of going overboard and being harmful long long before you've reduced your home to padded walls.
Its not a city sanctioned monopoly, its not theft by the people. The issue is far more complex than that. Private monopolies are as bad or worse for innovation. If one company owns and controls the lines there is little to no opportunity for competition. If the government owns the lines, or at least partly regulates their use, there is some potential for competition. Pure market does not equal innovation or competition. There are many examples of how a free market is anything but free for consumers, especially in the communication industry. "Theft" by "the people" may not always be a good option, but its not the worst. The worst is a completely unregulated market.
Indeed, there are good reasons why pure market economies are not used. There are good reasons for the government regulations and antitrust laws. You can go too far either way. Privatization is not a magic bullet and is every bit as dangerous, if not more, than government regulation.
The reason the "screeching few" tend to get their way probably has to do with the high number of innocent deaths as a result of the speeding. Its hard to say you should have a right to speed when your speeding leads to you killing others. The government tries to have some protections for random innocents and minorities to prevent certain kinds of abuses. Abuses like murdering people because your too impatient to drive safely.
Heh, I suppose its perfectly possible I'm a bit overly aggressive on this issue. It just bugs me that people who are so reliant on the products of science are so ignorant of it, and even attack it. I feel my understanding is weak, but at times it seems like my weak understanding is above the average. That scares me.
(Also, side note, if your having trouble following a thread backwards you can always hit the [ Parent ] link, next to the reply link. One or two clicks on parent links and you can follow the thread of the conversation back, ignoring alternate branches which may go very different directions.)
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A lot of people have been burned repeatedly by Microsoft's empty promises. Most have also had to deal with a lot of astroturfing.
Believe it or not the fanboys who wont change their minds are not a majority. Many are just cautious and have many doubts due to past experience. Such doubts don't vanish overnight, and aren't helped by dismissive comments like the parent here.
Again I ask:
How does this protect against the Hyper-V product being changed to be incompatible with the GPL drivers in the future. What guarentee do we have that compatibility will be maintained or the drivers updated?
GPL drivers don't do much good if they aren't compatible with the hypervisor. Otherwise we'd be using Xen drivers on Hyper-V wouldn't we?
I know I'm jumping to conclusions a bit, but this is a company with a very long history of this kind of behavior. Even after several court cases and many promises.
(Hope I get answers, instead of just getting modded up, then suddenly down into oblivion again)
They are releasing the drivers as open source, not the underlying product. I've not looked at the Hyper-V product very closely, but it seems to me that once they control the market, they only need to change the Hyper-V product to be incompatible with the GPL drivers. In that case, what good would a fork do?
Don't forget Microsoft's strategy: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish
which makes me wonder if MS is purposely gimping their linux/unix implementation.
That would be consistent with their business strategy. So the answer is probably "Yes, they are gimping the implimentation of thier silverlight system that runs on competing platforms by implimenting features requiring incompatible licensing rather than using one of the less expensive alternatives."
I found it counterintuitive at first but, after some experimentation I've found many classic sedentary activities are actually easier and more enjoyable if you find some way to make them a bit more physically active. I guess the human body is adapted to move more than once every hour or two. As well, the brain seems to be as or more active when the body is somewhat active than when the body is in a resting state. My daydreams are more detailed when I'm walking then when I'm laying on a couch.
At first the increased physical activity can be difficult and uncomfortable for someone who isn't accustomed to it. Similarly sitting around all day not moving can lead to discomfort for someone accostomed to being active. Just because its what you're used to doesn't mean its better.
That seems overly simplistic. You could argue that ensuring the survival of your community is as or more important than your direct offspring. Why should evolution only operate on direct decendants when we exist as interdependant societies?
Canonical? You mean Ubuntu? Different editions of Ubuntu ship with different default browsers, and many have other browsers bundled that you can switch to. Also they aren't trying to leverage one monopoly to gain others.
Its insane to try and apply the same rules to a monopoly as you do to competative markets. It doesn't work. Pure free markets work about as well as communism, it seems both end up with a very small group of people owning/controlling everything. Funny how opposing extremes resemble eachother so closely.
Microsoft's solution of not bundling IE is pretty transparent. Looking at their history I wouldn't be surprised if they offered the manufacturers additional incentives to bundle IE for them.
There are a lot of comments about this being a money grab by the EU from an American company. Given the income Microsoft gains from EU countries, this is hardly fair. This does reflect poorly on Americans, it seems to show some strange misguided belief that everyone else is dirt poor and trying to leech off them. I wonder what percentage of Microsoft's revenue comes from the USA and what percentage from the EU...
So how does that American DMCA law work again? I send an email and anything I dislike gets removed without annoying questions or due process right?
So can I send in a DMCA takedown against USTR's press release and get it removed from their webpage? Or do I have to find some upstream provider to send it to that will disconnect the entire USTR site without questioning the validity of my takedown notice?
Uhm... Did I miss something? "You spew murky polluted air" is a compliment now? How about "you are a big idiot"? I don't know, maybe I just don't read carefully enough before posting.
Your use of North America in response to "Americans" and your grouping of Canadians in with that seems to be implying that Canadians are Americans. Does this mean Mexicans are also Americans? If so, does this mean Canadians and Mexicans can now vote in US federal elections?
So does this mean if I post an offensive comment in Italian that Slashdot's lawyers can't goto Italy anymore?
It depends on the CD protection. The protection scheme they are talking about doesn't just check the CD is there when you start the game, but rather checks constantly, or at least frequently. These frequent checks can cause problems and slow down the computer.
Wait wait wait, they pay the artists?
I copied some of my music to my brain, then I replayed it by humming on the bus.
Different "big corps" The people who own the wires seem to make money off of the sharing as or more often than they "lose" money from it.
I thought the speed limit thing was because breaking the speed limit is dangerous to yourself and others, and killing people is generally considered immoral.
Wouldn't it be funny (in a horrible horrible way) if one of those tribes carried some variant of a disease like smallpox still, and contacting them released a plague upon our highly interconnected modern world?
Of course, contacting them could quite literally contaminate them, with disease. Kill off most of them just by sneezing. A larger more diverse population would be a larger breeding ground for more deadly diseases would it not? Isn't that what happened to the native populations of the Americas way back when the Europeans first came?
I've got to agree to an extent, you've passed the point of going overboard and being harmful long long before you've reduced your home to padded walls.
Its not a city sanctioned monopoly, its not theft by the people. The issue is far more complex than that. Private monopolies are as bad or worse for innovation. If one company owns and controls the lines there is little to no opportunity for competition. If the government owns the lines, or at least partly regulates their use, there is some potential for competition. Pure market does not equal innovation or competition. There are many examples of how a free market is anything but free for consumers, especially in the communication industry. "Theft" by "the people" may not always be a good option, but its not the worst. The worst is a completely unregulated market.
Indeed, there are good reasons why pure market economies are not used. There are good reasons for the government regulations and antitrust laws. You can go too far either way. Privatization is not a magic bullet and is every bit as dangerous, if not more, than government regulation.
The reason the "screeching few" tend to get their way probably has to do with the high number of innocent deaths as a result of the speeding. Its hard to say you should have a right to speed when your speeding leads to you killing others. The government tries to have some protections for random innocents and minorities to prevent certain kinds of abuses. Abuses like murdering people because your too impatient to drive safely.
Heh, I suppose its perfectly possible I'm a bit overly aggressive on this issue. It just bugs me that people who are so reliant on the products of science are so ignorant of it, and even attack it. I feel my understanding is weak, but at times it seems like my weak understanding is above the average. That scares me.
(Also, side note, if your having trouble following a thread backwards you can always hit the [ Parent ] link, next to the reply link. One or two clicks on parent links and you can follow the thread of the conversation back, ignoring alternate branches which may go very different directions.)