But if you are refering to the NSA as being the M.I.T.M., they most likely already have access to U.S. issued keys. If they managed to get hardware installations set up at carrier locations, why would they not be able to ask CA:s for private keys?
Someone mentioned the DMCA earlier. Wouldn't the DMCA make decryption illegal for ISPs? I'm not from the U.S. so perhaps a native could explain if an ISP would be able to legally engage in M.I.T.M. activities? They couldn't very well base trafic shaping on an illegal step.
Ha, this Van de Graaf generator of his is no match for my Wimshurst machine. Only problem: the charge could go either way! Think of it as swing votes:-)
Is there any evidence that this actually works against Google and isn't just a slashvertisment for the software?
The are also claiming generic anti-KITTEN capabilities. Generic AI? Run away! Especially if the software recognizes kittens without seeing them before. Yes, I know the argument of kittens not bending or getting spots all over, like letters can, but I call bullshit. Kittens do bend.
They would still need a lot of help from the pr0n squad CAPTCHA breakers. I'm betting my last KITTEN on it.
Before being rude, please make sure you know what you are talking about. Please also make sure you understand the person you are replying to, before replying.
There are a number of ways to strengthen CAPTCHA generation using Asmor's idea. I'm sure you could come up with a few if you tried.
(It still would not help against humans, but one problem at a time)
Since so many people seem willing to do this, why not sell your houses and start paying rent? I mean, if it is the right thing to do, it is the right thing to do all over. That way a corporation would also take care of servicing your house when they felt it was needed. Obviously they would know when this was needed much better than you would.
Also, do not make an investment today to rid yourself of eternal monthly payments. The way to get rich must be to pay someone else a monthly fee until forever. Don't buy your car. Rent everything.
What "free market principles" are there in Linux? Going on strict "free market principles" it wouldn't even exist, as people are being economically irrational giving away their labour (which has amounted to billions of dollars worth now) for free?
So Linux has received investements in the form of labour from a large number of stakeholders (no, not share holders), what about it? In this dog-eat-dog market, Linux has managed to prosper despite all the money and PR others have devoted to killing it.
Please explain why it is economically irrational to give away labour to a project that everybody benefits from. Are you sure that developers gain nothing by doing so?
Just as only one out of 100,000 has the talent to be an engineer or an acrobat, only a few are those truly capable of managing the matters of a nation or mankind as a whole.
As a non-acrobat, I can't really speak of how hard it would be to join their ranks. I was however surprised to find that it is harder to become and engineer than it is to become a member of Mensa.
No.. you are a fucking idiot. Please never write software again.
Although I only use exception handling for exception conditions, agreeing with some of the technical points of your rant feels awful.
People like you kill debates and make other people hesitate even though many of them know a lot more than you do on any given subject. It is amusing that you do not even have the balls to be anything but an Anonymous Coward when you go all in.
Exceptions are designed for HANDLING EXCEPTIONS. Hence why in all modern languages like C#/VB.NET other.NET languages, Java etc do a complete stack walk every time you throw an exception (extremely expensive).
Where do you catch your exceptions? Are you 100% sure of this complete stack walk? Since I don't know anything, surely you will be able to teach me. Tell me in detail how this works.
I'm all for avoiding premature optimization, but you don't have to be a fucking idiot. If your code "needs" exceptions to break out of deeply nested logic it's because your code is shit.
Perhaps he has just been around longer than you? I recall when java was really slow and servlets where a "new thing". Back then it was common to suggest using this technique to get better performance. Sure, times have changed and using exceptions and loops this way is not the best way to go. Still, being impolite about it only makes you look dumb.
Sorry, but I managed to short circuit my own post:
What I ment to add was that employers often claim a need to listen in on phone conversations and to read any emails in case employees comit a crime or similar.
My point is that by taking on this role, are companies not seting themselves up for a fall?
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Yes, I am opposed to anyone just listening in. The secret company police is not really needed.
As a (north) european, if find this quite strange but also very interesting:
How on earth could your company ever be held responsible for the actions of employees obviously acting agains company regulations? I can understand that your company could be held liable if you hurt your customers or suppliers by following company procedures. But this?
This is like an ISP accepting responsibility for everything that passes though the network. By accepting responsibility for everything, your employees are free do do anything not specifically forbidden.
The main reason for this post is that I really find it odd that employers should ever have the right to listen in on phonecalls and read emails. This is the job of the police if employees are suspected of a crime.
I know a lot of americans will react to this, but I'm guessing most of you act ok when using a phone at home?
As a sidenote from my Counter Strike playing days:
Kernel Panic(my brother), General Failure(me) and Major Asshole(a friend) where always on the same team. I'm sad to say that Private Parts(other friend) never really got up to speed before our team was disbanded. He did have a great name though.
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What desert?
But if you are refering to the NSA as being the M.I.T.M., they most likely already have access to U.S. issued keys. If they managed to get hardware installations set up at carrier locations, why would they not be able to ask CA:s for private keys?
Someone mentioned the DMCA earlier. Wouldn't the DMCA make decryption illegal for ISPs? I'm not from the U.S. so perhaps a native could explain if an ISP would be able to legally engage in M.I.T.M. activities? They couldn't very well base trafic shaping on an illegal step.
So instead of your car being secretly bugged by the manufacturer, the glove compartment simply wont open once you sell?
I agree, this will prevent car thieves from getting paid as much.
A few poisoned herrings would have done the trick.
Agreed, but you seem to have overlooked the old scandinavian "put a few sour herrings in the ventialtion" ploy.
Wow, first he orders... then he orders...
And if "the company" did get into the judges pocket they would soon find out that Judge Linda Feinberg is a she.
(I for one would welcome our weird artificial music creating overlords - but other HUMANS might feel offended...)
Use a font with serifs. After all, who wants to hear about some weird artificial intelligence creating music?
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffin' glue
Ha, this Van de Graaf generator of his is no match for my Wimshurst machine. Only problem: the charge could go either way! Think of it as swing votes :-)
Is there any evidence that this actually works against Google and isn't just a slashvertisment for the software?
The are also claiming generic anti-KITTEN capabilities. Generic AI? Run away! Especially if the software recognizes kittens without seeing them before. Yes, I know the argument of kittens not bending or getting spots all over, like letters can, but I call bullshit. Kittens do bend.
They would still need a lot of help from the pr0n squad CAPTCHA breakers. I'm betting my last KITTEN on it.
Before being rude, please make sure you know what you are talking about. Please also make sure you understand the person you are replying to, before replying.
There are a number of ways to strengthen CAPTCHA generation using Asmor's idea. I'm sure you could come up with a few if you tried.
(It still would not help against humans, but one problem at a time)
I'm guessing thin clients will make a comeback.
Since so many people seem willing to do this, why not sell your houses and start paying rent? I mean, if it is the right thing to do, it is the right thing to do all over. That way a corporation would also take care of servicing your house when they felt it was needed. Obviously they would know when this was needed much better than you would.
Also, do not make an investment today to rid yourself of eternal monthly payments. The way to get rich must be to pay someone else a monthly fee until forever. Don't buy your car. Rent everything.
Demitri Marten's excellent take on the whole glass house issue
Who!
Call me when China gets to Jupiter.
Ok, but will you still have the same number?
John McCarthy came up with the car.
You where talking about programming wheren't you?
What "free market principles" are there in Linux? Going on strict "free market principles" it wouldn't even exist, as people are being economically irrational giving away their labour (which has amounted to billions of dollars worth now) for free?
So Linux has received investements in the form of labour from a large number of stakeholders (no, not share holders), what about it? In this dog-eat-dog market, Linux has managed to prosper despite all the money and PR others have devoted to killing it.
Please explain why it is economically irrational to give away labour to a project that everybody benefits from. Are you sure that developers gain nothing by doing so?
As a citizen of EU I must say I think you speak like a traitor.
Whatever your reasons are to disagree with your own government, to wish your nation is too weak to act is akin to treason.
I feel freedom of speech is underrated, hangings overrated and justice truly blind.
Just as only one out of 100,000 has the talent to be an engineer or an acrobat, only a few are those truly capable of managing the matters of a nation or mankind as a whole.
As a non-acrobat, I can't really speak of how hard it would be to join their ranks. I was however surprised to find that it is harder to become and engineer than it is to become a member of Mensa.
Please state price, speed (downstream and upstream) and country.
I pay $58/month for symetric 100Mbps in Sweden.
dON't yOU MeAn lISp anD SchEMe?
No.. you are a fucking idiot. Please never write software again.
Although I only use exception handling for exception conditions, agreeing with some of the technical points of your rant feels awful.
People like you kill debates and make other people hesitate even though many of them know a lot more than you do on any given subject. It is amusing that you do not even have the balls to be anything but an Anonymous Coward when you go all in.
Exceptions are designed for HANDLING EXCEPTIONS. Hence why in all modern languages like C#/VB.NET other .NET languages, Java etc do a complete stack walk every time you throw an exception (extremely expensive).
Where do you catch your exceptions? Are you 100% sure of this complete stack walk? Since I don't know anything, surely you will be able to teach me. Tell me in detail how this works.
I'm all for avoiding premature optimization, but you don't have to be a fucking idiot. If your code "needs" exceptions to break out of deeply nested logic it's because your code is shit.
Perhaps he has just been around longer than you? I recall when java was really slow and servlets where a "new thing". Back then it was common to suggest using this technique to get better performance. Sure, times have changed and using exceptions and loops this way is not the best way to go. Still, being impolite about it only makes you look dumb.
Learn to code.
Don't be an ass
Sorry, but I managed to short circuit my own post:
What I ment to add was that employers often claim a need to listen in on phone conversations and to read any emails in case employees comit a crime or similar.
My point is that by taking on this role, are companies not seting themselves up for a fall?
---
Yes, I am opposed to anyone just listening in. The secret company police is not really needed.
As a (north) european, if find this quite strange but also very interesting:
How on earth could your company ever be held responsible for the actions of employees obviously acting agains company regulations? I can understand that your company could be held liable if you hurt your customers or suppliers by following company procedures. But this?
This is like an ISP accepting responsibility for everything that passes though the network. By accepting responsibility for everything, your employees are free do do anything not specifically forbidden.
The main reason for this post is that I really find it odd that employers should ever have the right to listen in on phonecalls and read emails. This is the job of the police if employees are suspected of a crime.
I know a lot of americans will react to this, but I'm guessing most of you act ok when using a phone at home?
As a sidenote from my Counter Strike playing days:
Kernel Panic(my brother), General Failure(me) and Major Asshole(a friend) where always on the same team. I'm sad to say that Private Parts(other friend) never really got up to speed before our team was disbanded. He did have a great name though.