i know that my next system will be a duron. I've been using AMD since the k6-2 300 and now have a k6-2 500 (that does rather nicely) but the system is showing signs of age where games are concerned. but i hadn't even thought about a duronMP system. I think that would just be k-rad. reminds me of the websites that showed you how to solder on your celery stick so you could use them in a dualie.
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now we have to prove to IBM that we can beat their AIX and it seems to me that they want us too. it all seems so strange that the big bad corp of old is now so eager for us to show them that we can do better than they. this really is fun. so much better than the last few days bitching about RMS. coding is what linux is about not politics amongst the elders. IBM. how weird is that?
this is exactly why i use linux (well one reason anyway) I like having a gui and a CLI. it just works very well together. I don't think the gui should ever have been envisioned as being a CLI-killer but just an adjunct to the system. there are things that i can do faster with a CLI and there are things I would rather do with a GUI. someday someone will show me a way to do some of these things with my voice or with virtual gloves or somesuch thing and they too will just be adjuncts to the system. I will still use the CLI, the GUI and the gloves, voice, thought waves.
I'm certain that Dr. Feynman is very proud that we're actually clsoe to building something he had envisioned. its also something that I think all of us have been patiently waiting for but often thought of as being a 50 years off kind of thing.
I heard recently (likely on NPR) about another anti-cracker outfit that was setting up servers with the intent of letting them get cracked so they could watch the invaders in real time to learn their techniques and so forth. apparently they are learning quite a bit. if i find a link to the site or group I'll reply to myself.
yet another holy war. I see something big blowing up soon between the elders and I think we'll all be stuck in the middle. I vote that we all just call it "the system" or 1TS (one true system) or something even more generic like OS and just shut up about the rest. I'm not posting on this topic anymore. its getting old. and the elders are starting to act like toddlers. from hereon that is how I shall refer to them. RMS, ESR, O'reilly, and all the rest are heretofore to be known as the toddlers. I'm over this. its fscking stupid. hackers get way to caught up in these holy wars. we need to grow up and get over it.
I use galeon and konqueror mostly and the occasional skipstone (which is by the same guy that does gkrellm and pronto) mozilla, navigator and opera just seem to be the EMACS of web browsers. it always seems funny to me that in the Unix (one tool per job) world we have so many kitchen sink utils. vi, galeon or konq, enlightenment. I like to keep things simple looking if not simple.
I know that gnu is essential in many ways to the running of my linux system (I'm on a win system now, testing out the dsl hookup:) ) you know that gnu is mostly essential to the running of linux. everyone in this thread knows that gnu is necessary to run linux. who cares? I don't expect every operating system in the known universe to advertise the utilities that are used to run the system in the title. then we would have games like "OpenGL Quake" "DirectX game whizzoblaster" "HTML 4.0 Web" yadda yadda yadda. I know, you know, anyone that cares knows. To those that we might be trying to evangelize well if they don't already know its probably because they don't fscking care. and they don't need to. I'm sorry but linux is linus baby. its his brainchild if rms wants to call something GNU(insert name of operating system that hasn't come to life in a usable form yet despite nigh on 20 years of development) then he should go make one. The GPL doesn't demand that if use use the stuff in anyway on your system that you must now change your systems name to GNU whatever. RMS can just go jump off a bridge. We all respect what he has done but to me it seems like he's trying to insure his already stable place in computer history by beating us over the head with it. I read ESR's cathedral and the bazzar not long ago and in it he mentions that the elders seem to be required to be gods but not act like they know they are gods. He's right. RMS must have forgotten this. He's being a pompous ass.
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dang it. whenever i have mod points i can never find comments worthy of being modded up. then as soon as they are gone along comes a comment like the above. well if i had some mod points I would have given them to you. simply brill.
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you realize of course there are tons of geeks packing their bags for school and insuring they have a copy of the above msg to use as the holy gospel to meeting chicks at college.
I'm not a fan of dragonball Z (sorry Taco I just don't like it) but this whole thread brought to mind fan fiction. I have every feeling of certainty that some company has the book rights for dragonball z and I'm sure that there are books out there based in the DBZ universe that can be had at any waldenbooks. just as easily I'm sure i can search google for DBZ fanfics. so when is someone going to start CandDing fan fic sites?
I'm not sure how old mr. knuth is but I hope he's able to complete his task. I admire greatly his project. the way that the science of computing advances faster than any other science would seem to make something like this nearly impossible. as it is Mr. knuth already has plans to go back over the previous volumes to update them for new technology. eventually you approach a point where anything you write down is obsolete the next day. even with something as fundamental as the algorithyms he describes is in need of update.
This leads me to think about what might happen once knuth has passed on. I'm in no hurry for him to die mind you but the text are more important or he wouldn't bother devoting so much of his life to them. something like this begs to be continued beyond the author. I think the majority of you know what I'm leading to. Open sourcing the books once mr knuth is no longer able to maintain them, I'm not trying to be greedy. I would eagerly pay for them (once I feel I'm at a level where I felt i had a chance of understanding them) I'm only worried that unlike the other works described on Mr knuths page (einstein and relativity, feynman and QED, etc...) TAOCP would quickly become useless to future generations. I don't think I, or mr knuth, or anyone else here would like that to happen.
great comment. wish i had some mod points to pick you up some more karma. totally don't care about the codec deal (I can't hear a damn bit of difference so it doesn't matter to me) but on the coke vs. pepsi thing I am totally in agreement. So I drink coke cause thats just what I've always drunk. I drink Dew cause of the caff. and I avoid pepsi cause its too smooth to me and doesn't have the kick that coke or dew have. anyway great comment.
I'm just so involved in evangelizing for vi vs. emacs and gnome vs. kde I just don't have the time to get involved in another holy war. so you guys fight it all out and let me know in 20 years what you came up with.
that either the open source community will find a way around certain laws or that the cracker community will find ways through them why don't they jsut stop and ask us what they should do.
I'm thinking perhaps oreilly and the other gangs of conventioneers should start dragging senators (not congressmen their votes don't have the impact that a senators does, the stature) to OSS conventions and dmcs protests and the like and educate them. they won't learn otherwise.
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uh, I understand that some of my geek brethren fon't get out as much as they should (not passing judgment) but there are some of us that are quite geeky that get some often and not always the same girl and we still maintain our geekiness. and by the way what geek still uses paper to find inspiration? for the cost of a subscription to a magazine I can get a years worth of usually not so bad pr0n from cyberage. and i don't have to worry about the missus (whoever she might be) finding it cause she usually knows nothing about computers (certainly nothing about linux). just trying to take the edge off the sterotype. some folks seem to have forgotten that geek is chic these days.
but I think that if you intend to keep things current you should have the many great books that others have mentioned as well as net connected computers that would guide people to sites llike slashdot or perl monks and the like. I know that I've learned a great deal about computers and related information from reading some of the articles and posts right here on slashdot. this article and subsequent posts is a great example. a great many of the books mentioned here are now going to end up in my personal library if they aren't there already.
does anyone else read that article the first time and see 12ghz? its obviously a simple typo and easily forgivable but I damn near crapped my pants before reality caught up with me.
is there any archeological evidence of this at all? has anyone found any pulleys or rope fragments or glyphs or anything that substantiates this possibility? I admit its clever that it could be done this way now but could it or would it have been done then? There appears to be plenty of info on how its done today but little to show that it was done then. I'm all for believing that the egyptians had some clever method for doing building but this seems the least likely way.
you know for a while now I've been a supporter of the make linux easy thing. um I'm over that now. momentary loss of sanity. there was a time when kids in school were required to know their times tables. and that they read. I mean not just know how to read but actually read regularly from things other than magazines. there once was a time when you were expected to understand what DNA is and what it did. Nowadays I'm happy if anyone knows the name of the president (that would be bush for those of you that don't know) I'm over this dumbing down of things. If you can't figure out linux then just admit that you're stupid and that you don't want to try and learn something. Admit that you've given up on your mind and don't care anymore. admit that the conept of having to think about anything so complex as reading a god damn manual is beyond you. continue to bitch and whine that this really cool thing that your friends use is too damn hard for you to use and that you are a techno moron incapable of counting above ten without taking off your shoes. I'm over this. If you have given up on your brain then just shut the fuck up and disappear. I'm not blasting windows/mac/etc... users there a great many of smart people that have not given up on their brains that use those systems I'm blasting the fuckers that can't jsut realize that linux is beyond them and continue to bitch cause I won't come hold their damn hands recompiling their kernel. Its not that damn hard. Read the Howto. no this isn't jsut another RTFM I'm serious if you can read you can compile a kernel. Linux is like cooking. If you can read you can do it. and at least linux doesn't use anything so vague as "pinch" to describe certain directions. as for how to convert to linux read Guido's DOS-Window->Linux Howto. I did. see I can read and have not given up on my brain. apologies to those of you that want to run linux but are having troubles. I'm not bitching at you jsut the morons that say someone should make linux easier to use. it is. shut up already. Flame-ON!
I agree with your point about unix being too detail intense for most users to actually use but linux and its gnu and other gpl programs do allow the creation of frontends. I've been reading ESRs book (the collection of essays put out by oreilly) and agree with him when he says that he sees linux and open source development moving towards more USER applications as opposed to the glut of (for lack of a better word) guru applications that we have now. So i think that if unix/linux were to remain static it would never be common on a desktop but the fact that things do change and the fact that there are only so many ways to write a program for a specific task i believe we will begin to see more apps designed as frontends to the multitude of apps that most of us now use on a command line. they will still be complex apps but a USER will never have to know that becuase some guru wrote a program so they don't have to know about it. Linux used to be a terror to install. Now with some of Mandrake's (as an example) advances in easy installs those terrors are going away. other apps will follow this lead towards usability now that many apps have achieved stability. I'm going off on a rant. i can see OSS development moving from one stage (the make it do its thing stage) into the second stage (make it easy for a user to make it do its thing). As this happens i think we will see projects change hands from developers focused on fixing a problem of doing something to those focused on making the solution to a problem easier for users to actually use. I think thats about it. sorry to waste your pixels.
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i know that my next system will be a duron. I've been using AMD since the k6-2 300 and now have a k6-2 500 (that does rather nicely) but the system is showing signs of age where games are concerned. but i hadn't even thought about a duronMP system. I think that would just be k-rad. reminds me of the websites that showed you how to solder on your celery stick so you could use them in a dualie.
now we have to prove to IBM that we can beat their AIX and it seems to me that they want us too. it all seems so strange that the big bad corp of old is now so eager for us to show them that we can do better than they. this really is fun. so much better than the last few days bitching about RMS. coding is what linux is about not politics amongst the elders. IBM. how weird is that?
this is exactly why i use linux (well one reason anyway) I like having a gui and a CLI. it just works very well together. I don't think the gui should ever have been envisioned as being a CLI-killer but just an adjunct to the system. there are things that i can do faster with a CLI and there are things I would rather do with a GUI. someday someone will show me a way to do some of these things with my voice or with virtual gloves or somesuch thing and they too will just be adjuncts to the system. I will still use the CLI, the GUI and the gloves, voice, thought waves.
I'm certain that Dr. Feynman is very proud that we're actually clsoe to building something he had envisioned. its also something that I think all of us have been patiently waiting for but often thought of as being a 50 years off kind of thing.
I heard recently (likely on NPR) about another anti-cracker outfit that was setting up servers with the intent of letting them get cracked so they could watch the invaders in real time to learn their techniques and so forth. apparently they are learning quite a bit. if i find a link to the site or group I'll reply to myself.
yet another holy war. I see something big blowing up soon between the elders and I think we'll all be stuck in the middle. I vote that we all just call it "the system" or 1TS (one true system) or something even more generic like OS and just shut up about the rest. I'm not posting on this topic anymore. its getting old. and the elders are starting to act like toddlers. from hereon that is how I shall refer to them. RMS, ESR, O'reilly, and all the rest are heretofore to be known as the toddlers. I'm over this. its fscking stupid. hackers get way to caught up in these holy wars. we need to grow up and get over it.
you're right. I'm wrong. I'll have to beat my man in the fact checking department.
I use galeon and konqueror mostly and the occasional skipstone (which is by the same guy that does gkrellm and pronto) mozilla, navigator and opera just seem to be the EMACS of web browsers. it always seems funny to me that in the Unix (one tool per job) world we have so many kitchen sink utils. vi, galeon or konq, enlightenment. I like to keep things simple looking if not simple.
I know that gnu is essential in many ways to the running of my linux system (I'm on a win system now, testing out the dsl hookup :) ) you know that gnu is mostly essential to the running of linux. everyone in this thread knows that gnu is necessary to run linux. who cares? I don't expect every operating system in the known universe to advertise the utilities that are used to run the system in the title. then we would have games like "OpenGL Quake" "DirectX game whizzoblaster" "HTML 4.0 Web" yadda yadda yadda. I know, you know, anyone that cares knows. To those that we might be trying to evangelize well if they don't already know its probably because they don't fscking care. and they don't need to. I'm sorry but linux is linus baby. its his brainchild if rms wants to call something GNU(insert name of operating system that hasn't come to life in a usable form yet despite nigh on 20 years of development) then he should go make one. The GPL doesn't demand that if use use the stuff in anyway on your system that you must now change your systems name to GNU whatever. RMS can just go jump off a bridge. We all respect what he has done but to me it seems like he's trying to insure his already stable place in computer history by beating us over the head with it. I read ESR's cathedral and the bazzar not long ago and in it he mentions that the elders seem to be required to be gods but not act like they know they are gods. He's right. RMS must have forgotten this. He's being a pompous ass.
dang it. whenever i have mod points i can never find comments worthy of being modded up. then as soon as they are gone along comes a comment like the above. well if i had some mod points I would have given them to you. simply brill.
you realize of course there are tons of geeks packing their bags for school and insuring they have a copy of the above msg to use as the holy gospel to meeting chicks at college.
sacrilege!!!
I'm just learning python now. There just aren't enough hours in the day for me to learn all of these languages.
I'm not a fan of dragonball Z (sorry Taco I just don't like it) but this whole thread brought to mind fan fiction. I have every feeling of certainty that some company has the book rights for dragonball z and I'm sure that there are books out there based in the DBZ universe that can be had at any waldenbooks. just as easily I'm sure i can search google for DBZ fanfics. so when is someone going to start CandDing fan fic sites?
I'm not sure how old mr. knuth is but I hope he's able to complete his task. I admire greatly his project. the way that the science of computing advances faster than any other science would seem to make something like this nearly impossible. as it is Mr. knuth already has plans to go back over the previous volumes to update them for new technology. eventually you approach a point where anything you write down is obsolete the next day. even with something as fundamental as the algorithyms he describes is in need of update.
This leads me to think about what might happen once knuth has passed on. I'm in no hurry for him to die mind you but the text are more important or he wouldn't bother devoting so much of his life to them. something like this begs to be continued beyond the author. I think the majority of you know what I'm leading to. Open sourcing the books once mr knuth is no longer able to maintain them, I'm not trying to be greedy. I would eagerly pay for them (once I feel I'm at a level where I felt i had a chance of understanding them) I'm only worried that unlike the other works described on Mr knuths page (einstein and relativity, feynman and QED, etc...) TAOCP would quickly become useless to future generations. I don't think I, or mr knuth, or anyone else here would like that to happen.
great comment. wish i had some mod points to pick you up some more karma. totally don't care about the codec deal (I can't hear a damn bit of difference so it doesn't matter to me) but on the coke vs. pepsi thing I am totally in agreement. So I drink coke cause thats just what I've always drunk. I drink Dew cause of the caff. and I avoid pepsi cause its too smooth to me and doesn't have the kick that coke or dew have. anyway great comment.
I'm just so involved in evangelizing for vi vs. emacs and gnome vs. kde I just don't have the time to get involved in another holy war. so you guys fight it all out and let me know in 20 years what you came up with.
that either the open source community will find a way around certain laws or that the cracker community will find ways through them why don't they jsut stop and ask us what they should do.
I'm thinking perhaps oreilly and the other gangs of conventioneers should start dragging senators (not congressmen their votes don't have the impact that a senators does, the stature) to OSS conventions and dmcs protests and the like and educate them. they won't learn otherwise.
uh, I understand that some of my geek brethren fon't get out as much as they should (not passing judgment) but there are some of us that are quite geeky that get some often and not always the same girl and we still maintain our geekiness. and by the way what geek still uses paper to find inspiration? for the cost of a subscription to a magazine I can get a years worth of usually not so bad pr0n from cyberage. and i don't have to worry about the missus (whoever she might be) finding it cause she usually knows nothing about computers (certainly nothing about linux). just trying to take the edge off the sterotype. some folks seem to have forgotten that geek is chic these days.
but I think that if you intend to keep things current you should have the many great books that others have mentioned as well as net connected computers that would guide people to sites llike slashdot or perl monks and the like. I know that I've learned a great deal about computers and related information from reading some of the articles and posts right here on slashdot. this article and subsequent posts is a great example. a great many of the books mentioned here are now going to end up in my personal library if they aren't there already.
does anyone else read that article the first time and see 12ghz? its obviously a simple typo and easily forgivable but I damn near crapped my pants before reality caught up with me.
is there any archeological evidence of this at all? has anyone found any pulleys or rope fragments or glyphs or anything that substantiates this possibility? I admit its clever that it could be done this way now but could it or would it have been done then? There appears to be plenty of info on how its done today but little to show that it was done then. I'm all for believing that the egyptians had some clever method for doing building but this seems the least likely way.
you know for a while now I've been a supporter of the make linux easy thing. um I'm over that now. momentary loss of sanity. there was a time when kids in school were required to know their times tables. and that they read. I mean not just know how to read but actually read regularly from things other than magazines. there once was a time when you were expected to understand what DNA is and what it did. Nowadays I'm happy if anyone knows the name of the president (that would be bush for those of you that don't know) I'm over this dumbing down of things. If you can't figure out linux then just admit that you're stupid and that you don't want to try and learn something. Admit that you've given up on your mind and don't care anymore. admit that the conept of having to think about anything so complex as reading a god damn manual is beyond you. continue to bitch and whine that this really cool thing that your friends use is too damn hard for you to use and that you are a techno moron incapable of counting above ten without taking off your shoes. I'm over this. If you have given up on your brain then just shut the fuck up and disappear. I'm not blasting windows/mac/etc... users there a great many of smart people that have not given up on their brains that use those systems I'm blasting the fuckers that can't jsut realize that linux is beyond them and continue to bitch cause I won't come hold their damn hands recompiling their kernel. Its not that damn hard. Read the Howto. no this isn't jsut another RTFM I'm serious if you can read you can compile a kernel. Linux is like cooking. If you can read you can do it. and at least linux doesn't use anything so vague as "pinch" to describe certain directions. as for how to convert to linux read Guido's DOS-Window->Linux Howto. I did. see I can read and have not given up on my brain. apologies to those of you that want to run linux but are having troubles. I'm not bitching at you jsut the morons that say someone should make linux easier to use. it is. shut up already. Flame-ON!
I agree with your point about unix being too detail intense for most users to actually use but linux and its gnu and other gpl programs do allow the creation of frontends. I've been reading ESRs book (the collection of essays put out by oreilly) and agree with him when he says that he sees linux and open source development moving towards more USER applications as opposed to the glut of (for lack of a better word) guru applications that we have now. So i think that if unix/linux were to remain static it would never be common on a desktop but the fact that things do change and the fact that there are only so many ways to write a program for a specific task i believe we will begin to see more apps designed as frontends to the multitude of apps that most of us now use on a command line. they will still be complex apps but a USER will never have to know that becuase some guru wrote a program so they don't have to know about it. Linux used to be a terror to install. Now with some of Mandrake's (as an example) advances in easy installs those terrors are going away. other apps will follow this lead towards usability now that many apps have achieved stability. I'm going off on a rant. i can see OSS development moving from one stage (the make it do its thing stage) into the second stage (make it easy for a user to make it do its thing). As this happens i think we will see projects change hands from developers focused on fixing a problem of doing something to those focused on making the solution to a problem easier for users to actually use. I think thats about it. sorry to waste your pixels.
ok thanks. its always nice to ask an honest question on slashdot and get a real answer. I appreciate it.