If you left your door unlocked and open, you can't charge them for breaking and entering.
The door was not left unlocked and open. It just had a bad lock, guy walzed in, and left a bill for "identifying a security flaw in the front door" on the kitchen table.
Company internal data systems accessible only through faults in the public interface are not any more public than my house is public just because it happens to be alongside public road network. They both have public parts (my doorbell), customer-accessible part of the company system, and private parts.
Somewhat seems an understatement of the decade. Both went in in gnome 2.4, three years ago.
As for the names, too generic is just as bad as cryptic. It's ambiguous, and just begging for conficting names, "dialog" for example is already taken by ncurses application of the same purpose, though granted zenity is rather undiscoverable.
And I'd be pretty damn pissed if I couldn't open a html file in text editor because file chooser dialog was only allowed to call open, which in turn was only allowed to do "what double clicking in file manager does", eg. open in default application - web browser.
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I don't know about you, but I'd hazard a guess that vastly most common use case is that either the application already put you in the correct directory, or you're going to save it into one of the few common directories you tend use. Basically type filename and be done with it, which is the use case the file save dialog has been optimized for.
But if you want to do bit more heavy duty navigating, and need to browse, ever thought about clicking the thing below strange dropdown that is talking about browsing?
Then again, why would you be in save (instead of open) dialog if you're trying to open your pr0n is beyond me...
It is absolutely insane that a Unix based system does not have a trivial command-line method of "do what double-click in the file browser does".
You mean the trivial command-line application "gnome-open"?
While you are at it, try to follow the Unix conventions, and make programs to bring up file choosers and error messages and so on. I don't want to link in GTK if I just want to ask the user a yes/no question. And this would provide a powerful and easy way to customize the system. If file choosers were programs you exec'ed, I think Linux would change from having the worst file choosers to having the best ones in about 3 months.
That one is called "zenity".
You really should take a look at what already exists before bitching it's not there.
The other problem is I really don't see any progress from the Fedora camp. It seems like whenever I hear of a new feature getting bundled into a distro, it's always Ubuntu or Suse.
You just complained about a new feature (SELinux) getting bundled into it before, and now you pretend that it never happens? Same for Xen, Fedora was and is the first one to integrate it properly. This is server stuff, granted, maybe they do bit less flashy desktop stuff, but they do that too (AIGLX for example).
I don't know what the hell Fedora has going on.
Pretty much the same thing as every other distro. You just chose to keep your eyes closed. And perhaps they hype a bit less when they do something new.
When it comes to that - Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, direct competiting product to SuSE Enterprise 10 still uses... GNOME 2.8 and KDE 3.3.
The difference is that those were the latest versions when RHEL4 was released, whereas SuSE is going to have 2.12 even though it's being shipped months after GNOME 2.14 has been out.
Later in life when they are more stable and have disposable income they will not have any ties to the church, so why would they rejoin?
You have to be a member if you want a church wedding, and for some reason many, even otherwise quite modern, young women do, and in the process manage to push their would-be-hubbies to rejoin.
The reason you shouldn't try to tell other people's stories is that people who actually understand what you're talking about laugh at you when you get it wrong.
You got that right. Too bad you didn't follow your own advice, which is why everyone is now laughing on you, even harder for doing it while being a smartass.
The AT standard required a half second pause between each plus, and there was no known modem which got that wrong.
Doing GUI's is not the strength of any scripting language, but it depends on what you need to do.
Why is that? GUI's are, if possible, even more about using existing libraries and "backend" applications than any other software, which, as you stated, is what "scripting" languages do so well.
And to boot, GUI applications spend 99.9% of their time idle, waiting for user input, so the relative slowness also matters less than usually.
They don't just require them, libglade bindings are part of pygtk, and as such, it's not a leap at all, and your original objection is pretty much pointless. The grand-grand-parent could've just as well meant using libglade as "programmatically creating guis".
Although if you do need to do the latter, python, with very little boilerplate required, is one of the best languages to do it in...
Well, the idiot is still going to lose his fingers, even before the accident - he'll just cut them loose on purpose and tape them to the fingerprint readers.
[Western games] have either no story or a very poor story. TES is a great example for that- what the hell is the story in Daggerfall? Or Morrowind? I couldn't find one.
Nobody ever claimed the Elder Scrolls are particularly story heavy games (although they do have one, it's just not handed to you on a silver platter), but extending that to all the other members of the genre is overgeneralization of the century.
If you can't find a good story in Fallout, Planescape: Torment, or KotOR, you either haven't looked at all, or are blind.
It doesn't eat just any slightly warm styrofoam, it doesn't even eat melted polystyrene, it eats styrene.
If your styroform has been heated to the point of depolymerization, it's no longer styroform, and it has long since lost any heat insulating properties (which were due to the suspended gas) it once had, I don't know about electrical properties of monomer styrene but no doubt they're nothing to write home about either - especially when it, being a liquid with newfound mobility, is no longer where the insulation was originally needed.
So there, your everyday styrofoam should be perfectly safe, and only place the escaped bacteria might find a feast at is a powerplant that has already exploded.
but at the end of the day its the paradigm you apply that matters and not the language.
Given turing-completeness, of course you can apply anything you come up with any language, but if you need to go badly against the grain of the language to apply your chosen paradigm, it will be much more work than if you'd used language whose semantics fit that paradigm naturally, and of course that ends up hampering your productivity.
At the end of the day, some languages are better suited for some paradigms than others, so they matter.
No, actually it means no such thing. If you want to talk about something get less complex, how about you say "get less complex" instead of assigning new and misleading meanings to words?
likewise, when you say something devolves, there is no judgment or bias involved at all
When you say something devolves, there is bias involved since you're implying devolving is some kind of opposite of evolving. Which it's not, because evolution does not have a direction and so doesn't have an opposite.
>wow, then what is this cmd, edit, ping, tracert, netstat, and so forth? cmd is a command intepreter. The rest are commands integrated to Windows XP (among other Windows).
The rest of the listed are, but "edit(.com!)" is a real living DOS command that runs in the ntvdm virtual machine. Someone must really like that clunky old text editor to still bundle it along.
For a while maybe, as long as there are only handful of biofuel cars, but enough to produce sufficient demand for someone to provide supply, from fast food dumps and such. But in the even longer term prices will go up even more, permanently.
There is only limited supply of farmland, most of which is already required for producing human and animal feed, coupled with the inefficiency of biofuels, that's a problem. There are 500 million cars in the world, convert them all to run on soybeans and you can't magically develop capacity, because it requires real-world surface area that does not exist and can not be increased.
Well, unfortunately I'm inclined to agree that they don't quite cut it - yet.
So, fortunately for now living in non-patent zone I just use the patented ones (not that they would go for an individual anyway), but I can see why redhat wants to use theora, since neither happens to be true for them.
AVI may not be, but it doesn't do any good without a codec, and MPEG-4 is patented regardless of the implementation, xvid is just as bad as the others, no matter how nice and open it would otherwise be.
Most people don't mark up their books, they just read them.
Because they don't want to ruin them. If they could do it without modifying the original book, no doubt it'd be much more used. Besides, many people do mark up their books somewhat - by bending over corner of a page when they stop reading to mark the position, for example.
And dead tree books don't have backlights, do they?
You can't read dead tree books in dark, can you? There's this weird concept called "progress" that implies that we don't need to limit new things to just what old ones did, they can do better.
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If you left your door unlocked and open, you can't charge them for breaking and entering.
The door was not left unlocked and open. It just had a bad lock, guy walzed in, and left a bill for "identifying a security flaw in the front door" on the kitchen table.
Company internal data systems accessible only through faults in the public interface are not any more public than my house is public just because it happens to be alongside public road network. They both have public parts (my doorbell), customer-accessible part of the company system, and private parts.
Somewhat seems an understatement of the decade. Both went in in gnome 2.4, three years ago.
As for the names, too generic is just as bad as cryptic. It's ambiguous, and just begging for conficting names, "dialog" for example is already taken by ncurses application of the same purpose, though granted zenity is rather undiscoverable.
And I'd be pretty damn pissed if I couldn't open a html file in text editor because file chooser dialog was only allowed to call open, which in turn was only allowed to do "what double clicking in file manager does", eg. open in default application - web browser.
I don't know about you, but I'd hazard a guess that vastly most common use case is that either the application already put you in the correct directory, or you're going to save it into one of the few common directories you tend use. Basically type filename and be done with it, which is the use case the file save dialog has been optimized for.
But if you want to do bit more heavy duty navigating, and need to browse, ever thought about clicking the thing below strange dropdown that is talking about browsing?
Then again, why would you be in save (instead of open) dialog if you're trying to open your pr0n is beyond me...
It is absolutely insane that a Unix based system does not have a trivial command-line method of "do what double-click in the file browser does".
You mean the trivial command-line application "gnome-open"?
While you are at it, try to follow the Unix conventions, and make programs to bring up file choosers and error messages and so on. I don't want to link in GTK if I just want to ask the user a yes/no question. And this would provide a powerful and easy way to customize the system. If file choosers were programs you exec'ed, I think Linux would change from having the worst file choosers to having the best ones in about 3 months.
That one is called "zenity".
You really should take a look at what already exists before bitching it's not there.
Good thing fisherman aren't known for making up outrageous fish stories, otherwise we might have to take it with a mountain of salt.
Fair enough, but since all of our energy (except nuclear?) can be traced back to solar isn't that getting a little bit pedantic?
Well, it's a fair bit more direct solar than most, but let's call it gravity-assisted solar power, and everyone can be happy!
Nuclear too, just not our Sun, but some long-dead supergiant that went big boom.
The other problem is I really don't see any progress from the Fedora camp. It seems like whenever I hear of a new feature getting bundled into a distro, it's always Ubuntu or Suse.
You just complained about a new feature (SELinux) getting bundled into it before, and now you pretend that it never happens? Same for Xen, Fedora was and is the first one to integrate it properly. This is server stuff, granted, maybe they do bit less flashy desktop stuff, but they do that too (AIGLX for example).
I don't know what the hell Fedora has going on.
Pretty much the same thing as every other distro. You just chose to keep your eyes closed. And perhaps they hype a bit less when they do something new.
When it comes to that - Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, direct competiting product to SuSE Enterprise 10 still uses... GNOME 2.8 and KDE 3.3.
The difference is that those were the latest versions when RHEL4 was released, whereas SuSE is going to have 2.12 even though it's being shipped months after GNOME 2.14 has been out.
I'm willing to accept that things may have improved in six years.
But they haven't, not for Windows. Because Microsoft hasn't shipped anything in the last five years.
Yes, Ubuntu has an advantage in being newer, but that's MS's problem, it's not the users fault that their last OS offering is from 2001.
Later in life when they are more stable and have disposable income they will not have any ties to the church, so why would they rejoin?
You have to be a member if you want a church wedding, and for some reason many, even otherwise quite modern, young women do, and in the process manage to push their would-be-hubbies to rejoin.
The reason you shouldn't try to tell other people's stories is that people who actually understand what you're talking about laugh at you when you get it wrong.
? ctype=cve&id=CAN-1999-1228, or justfuckinggoogleit.
You got that right. Too bad you didn't follow your own advice, which is why everyone is now laughing on you, even harder for doing it while being a smartass.
The AT standard required a half second pause between each plus, and there was no known modem which got that wrong.
There are plenty of known modems which got that wrong and had no delay at all. It's quite well documented, see for example http://www.securityspace.com/smysecure/catid.html
And next time, check your "facts" before you accuse people of lying.
Doing GUI's is not the strength of any scripting language, but it depends on what you need to do.
Why is that? GUI's are, if possible, even more about using existing libraries and "backend" applications than any other software, which, as you stated, is what "scripting" languages do so well.
And to boot, GUI applications spend 99.9% of their time idle, waiting for user input, so the relative slowness also matters less than usually.
They don't just require them, libglade bindings are part of pygtk, and as such, it's not a leap at all, and your original objection is pretty much pointless. The grand-grand-parent could've just as well meant using libglade as "programmatically creating guis".
Although if you do need to do the latter, python, with very little boilerplate required, is one of the best languages to do it in...
Well, the idiot is still going to lose his fingers, even before the accident - he'll just cut them loose on purpose and tape them to the fingerprint readers.
[Western games] have either no story or a very poor story. TES is a great example for that- what the hell is the story in Daggerfall? Or Morrowind? I couldn't find one.
Nobody ever claimed the Elder Scrolls are particularly story heavy games (although they do have one, it's just not handed to you on a silver platter), but extending that to all the other members of the genre is overgeneralization of the century.
If you can't find a good story in Fallout, Planescape: Torment, or KotOR, you either haven't looked at all, or are blind.
It doesn't eat just any slightly warm styrofoam, it doesn't even eat melted polystyrene, it eats styrene.
If your styroform has been heated to the point of depolymerization, it's no longer styroform, and it has long since lost any heat insulating properties (which were due to the suspended gas) it once had, I don't know about electrical properties of monomer styrene but no doubt they're nothing to write home about either - especially when it, being a liquid with newfound mobility, is no longer where the insulation was originally needed.
So there, your everyday styrofoam should be perfectly safe, and only place the escaped bacteria might find a feast at is a powerplant that has already exploded.
but at the end of the day its the paradigm you apply that matters and not the language.
Given turing-completeness, of course you can apply anything you come up with any language, but if you need to go badly against the grain of the language to apply your chosen paradigm, it will be much more work than if you'd used language whose semantics fit that paradigm naturally, and of course that ends up hampering your productivity.
At the end of the day, some languages are better suited for some paradigms than others, so they matter.
devolve means to get less complex
No, actually it means no such thing. If you want to talk about something get less complex, how about you say "get less complex" instead of assigning new and misleading meanings to words?
likewise, when you say something devolves, there is no judgment or bias involved at all
When you say something devolves, there is bias involved since you're implying devolving is some kind of opposite of evolving. Which it's not, because evolution does not have a direction and so doesn't have an opposite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution_(fallacy)
>wow, then what is this cmd, edit, ping, tracert, netstat, and so forth?
cmd is a command intepreter. The rest are commands integrated to Windows XP (among other Windows).
The rest of the listed are, but "edit(.com!)" is a real living DOS command that runs in the ntvdm virtual machine. Someone must really like that clunky old text editor to still bundle it along.
For a while maybe, as long as there are only handful of biofuel cars, but enough to produce sufficient demand for someone to provide supply, from fast food dumps and such. But in the even longer term prices will go up even more, permanently.
There is only limited supply of farmland, most of which is already required for producing human and animal feed, coupled with the inefficiency of biofuels, that's a problem. There are 500 million cars in the world, convert them all to run on soybeans and you can't magically develop capacity, because it requires real-world surface area that does not exist and can not be increased.
Pray tell, how exactly does this work in Solaris, BSD, OS X, Windows? What? It doesn't?
Gnome-vfs may be less than optimal in many respects but at least it's not Linux-only.
Well, unfortunately I'm inclined to agree that they don't quite cut it - yet.
So, fortunately for now living in non-patent zone I just use the patented ones (not that they would go for an individual anyway), but I can see why redhat wants to use theora, since neither happens to be true for them.
Aside from blocking ventilation grilles, etc., isn't the natural undulation of one's lap bad for the hard disc?
Oh for crying out loud, it's a LAPtop.
Unless you're riding a rollercoaster or flying a F-16, yes, a laptop hard drive can definitely take your undulating thighs.
Sanely designed device will also not have ventilation grilles in the bottom.
AVI may not be, but it doesn't do any good without a codec, and MPEG-4 is patented regardless of the implementation, xvid is just as bad as the others, no matter how nice and open it would otherwise be.
Most people don't mark up their books, they just read them.
Because they don't want to ruin them. If they could do it without modifying the original book, no doubt it'd be much more used. Besides, many people do mark up their books somewhat - by bending over corner of a page when they stop reading to mark the position, for example.
And dead tree books don't have backlights, do they?
You can't read dead tree books in dark, can you? There's this weird concept called "progress" that implies that we don't need to limit new things to just what old ones did, they can do better.