unfortunately, it is the nature of fashion to be fickle; i.e., to come and
go without regard to anything else. this means jingoism will rise again at
some point, along with its attendant problems. you can be sure wily (aka
career) politicians study these cycles like a surfer studies the distant
swell, hoping to catch the wave at the right time. whether or not ordinary
people (non politicos) represent the wave, the wind, or the plank underfoot is
another question altogether...
good post, overall (i agree w/ it). just a small metaphor nit: coastlines
are by definition already level (they are where the "altitude above sea-level"
is zero). of course, you meant the human artifacts built upon those coasts, i
understand...
if there is "no foo" how can you name it?
if no one does "foo", then how can you blame it?
"must. reject. that-which-is-not-mine!"
"must. detect. that-which-is-not-fine!"
we eat different foods, and yet out comes same shit?
probably "paid" (past tense) is only half appropriate; since Dan lives
in a time after this, most appropriate is "would have paid". at least,
that's what an old teacher drilled into me a long time ago...
anyway, more pertinent: libraries are one of the best investments possible
(societal well-being bang for the collected taxes buck), so wherever the money
(that would have gone to libraries) is actually going in Dan's universe is
probably less desirable from a societal well-being point of view. that is the
major bummer of the story, IMHO.
"you just don't get it."... "luckily you are in a minority".
hmm, sounds like a programmer just lost the "it" that he acuses other of
not getting. here, the "it" is access to source code and wherewithal to munge
it to be most useful. when a programmer of such software says "our way
is better" to a user, he challenges the user to become (or ally with) another
programmer to fork the project. maybe that's what is desired, but the smoother way would be to
separate mechanism and policy, concentrate your programming-fu on the
mechanism and let the users twiddle the policy
bits
as they see fit.
happy users means less pressure to fork. of course, those who live by the
fork you may wish to die by it, as well, for completeness or symmetry or
whatever. that's fine, too.
presuming such a topic as
beer
is not going to get you fired, you
could get them into the hacking mode
w/ a little bit of "spirited" (yuk yuk, i slay me)
fun.
the best way to teach is to do, the best way to do is to not fear failure,
the best way to not fear failure is to use failure to learn, the best way to
learn is up to each person to find. so, don't worry if no one groks your
presentation. w/ some luck there will be a bite, if not sooner, then perhaps
later.
i am maintaining
a port of GNUemacs (which is written
in C at its core) to
VMS,
and am interested in learning about the bug
you mentioned.
is the bug report (and more interestingly, the 50-line piece of C code
that demonstrates the bug) posted anywhere public? (do you have a link
handy?) thanks.
back on topic: i wonder if emacs is considered "enterprise software".
c'mon! no one sings "blah blah blah". the correct lyrics are: "la la la".
just dig around a bit and you'll find bert (and ernie) singing it for ya (in
glorious stereo if you're lucky)...
despite this minor flaw, point 5 still merits highly.:)
it makes them cast lots w/ those who have departed from the path of wisdom.
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i think the programmers at usloth are not so cherished.
to be cherished means to be loved and respected (among other things),
not kept tethered by marketing and/or internal politics. no programmer
finds treatment like that to be a sign of cherishment. perhaps some
of them get proxy love and respect (in the form of money, for example),
but when some boss dude sez:
"your carefully crafted precise magical
words that make the computer do things is not as important as my
carefully crafted precise magical words that ensure our going-gold
deadline is met (and my bonus delivered) and marketing stamp-of-approval.
thus you can just save your magic somewhere, we'll fudge it and use
my magic instead. it's better this way."
when some boss dude says that to you and smiles, you pretty much
know for sure you are not cherished.
that's a significant omission in my memory (maybe it's time to get away
from the computer and dive into those (and other) books) -- thanks for the link.
ummm, there is almost no mention of youth in 1984.
probably more fitting is animal farm,
wherein the young (puppies) are sequestered away by the
elite (pigs) to be brainwashed into straight-for-the-jugular
law enforcement.
please, read both books. they are enjoyable in
different ways...
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make sure they are in the proper positions (with respect to each other ;-).
ob-culture-slam: call me a curmudgeon, but unfortunately, that doesn't sing as sweet a tune as material excluded from mtv (spit spit).
unfortunately, it is the nature of fashion to be fickle; i.e., to come and go without regard to anything else. this means jingoism will rise again at some point, along with its attendant problems. you can be sure wily (aka career) politicians study these cycles like a surfer studies the distant swell, hoping to catch the wave at the right time. whether or not ordinary people (non politicos) represent the wave, the wind, or the plank underfoot is another question altogether...
good post, overall (i agree w/ it). just a small metaphor nit: coastlines are by definition already level (they are where the "altitude above sea-level" is zero). of course, you meant the human artifacts built upon those coasts, i understand...
i use GNU emacs for mail reading (and other things). works fine.
about the south suffering from something other than the prevalance of fried food, here.
ugh, lawyers and their ways...
angiosperms brought us long-distance SEX -- all hail angiosperms!
the difference is that while shit really stinks, hacking only stinks sometimes.
the similarity is that both can be ploughed back into the common.
next question?
translation: i like how the collar chafes the front of my neck instead of the back of it! now that's what i call class!
if you don't care so much then why do you write so much?
if there is "no foo" how can you name it?
if no one does "foo", then how can you blame it?
"must. reject. that-which-is-not-mine!"
"must. detect. that-which-is-not-fine!"
we eat different foods, and yet out comes same shit?
unfortunately python mindset (presently) is moving away from functional constructs. it has a sort of sunset built-in.
ah, land sharks and twisted legal counsel...
blech, versioning quagmire in feed formats. who needs the hassle? just use Atom 1.0 from IETF, no less.
probably "paid" (past tense) is only half appropriate; since Dan lives in a time after this, most appropriate is "would have paid". at least, that's what an old teacher drilled into me a long time ago...
anyway, more pertinent: libraries are one of the best investments possible (societal well-being bang for the collected taxes buck), so wherever the money (that would have gone to libraries) is actually going in Dan's universe is probably less desirable from a societal well-being point of view. that is the major bummer of the story, IMHO.
"you just don't get it." ... "luckily you are in a minority".
hmm, sounds like a programmer just lost the "it" that he acuses other of not getting. here, the "it" is access to source code and wherewithal to munge it to be most useful. when a programmer of such software says "our way is better" to a user, he challenges the user to become (or ally with) another programmer to fork the project. maybe that's what is desired, but the smoother way would be to separate mechanism and policy, concentrate your programming-fu on the mechanism and let the users twiddle the policy bits as they see fit.
happy users means less pressure to fork. of course, those who live by the fork you may wish to die by it, as well, for completeness or symmetry or whatever. that's fine, too.
presuming such a topic as beer is not going to get you fired, you could get them into the hacking mode w/ a little bit of "spirited" (yuk yuk, i slay me) fun.
the best way to teach is to do, the best way to do is to not fear failure, the best way to not fear failure is to use failure to learn, the best way to learn is up to each person to find. so, don't worry if no one groks your presentation. w/ some luck there will be a bite, if not sooner, then perhaps later.
just goes to show: "agreement and understanding are orthognal" is not understood (or agreed upon :-) by everyone.
keep up the good work.
i am maintaining a port of GNU emacs (which is written in C at its core) to VMS, and am interested in learning about the bug you mentioned.
is the bug report (and more interestingly, the 50-line piece of C code that demonstrates the bug) posted anywhere public? (do you have a link handy?) thanks.
back on topic: i wonder if emacs is considered "enterprise software".
c'mon! no one sings "blah blah blah". the correct lyrics are: "la la la". just dig around a bit and you'll find bert (and ernie) singing it for ya (in glorious stereo if you're lucky)...
despite this minor flaw, point 5 still merits highly. :)
it makes them cast lots w/ those who have departed from the path of wisdom.
i think the programmers at usloth are not so cherished. to be cherished means to be loved and respected (among other things), not kept tethered by marketing and/or internal politics. no programmer finds treatment like that to be a sign of cherishment. perhaps some of them get proxy love and respect (in the form of money, for example), but when some boss dude sez:
"your carefully crafted precise magical words that make the computer do things is not as important as my carefully crafted precise magical words that ensure our going-gold deadline is met (and my bonus delivered) and marketing stamp-of-approval. thus you can just save your magic somewhere, we'll fudge it and use my magic instead. it's better this way."
when some boss dude says that to you and smiles, you pretty much know for sure you are not cherished.
[insert your homily here]
narcing for usloth, that's gotta be a new low.
that's a significant omission in my memory (maybe it's time to get away from the computer and dive into those (and other) books) -- thanks for the link.
ummm, there is almost no mention of youth in 1984.
probably more fitting is animal farm, wherein the young (puppies) are sequestered away by the elite (pigs) to be brainwashed into straight-for-the-jugular law enforcement.
please, read both books. they are enjoyable in different ways...