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Crossing America on a Segway

Harald Paulsen writes "What do you do if you are tired of working in a cubicle and want to escape the Office Space? Two guys asked themselves this and decided to go across America on a Segway, making a documentary of their road trip. A trailer is available and the movie might show up at Sundance."

224 comments

  1. Power? by Artie+Dent · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What did they do for the long stretches without a place to recharge?

    1. Re:Power? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Power? by User+956 · · Score: 3, Funny

      What did they do for the long stretches without a place to recharge?

      What do you think the trailer was available for?

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  2. These guys are just lazy. by ic3b3rg333 · · Score: 4, Funny

    People have been doing this on bicycles for years.

    1. Re:These guys are just lazy. by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's a huge difference between doing it by bicycle and doing it by Segway.

      You recharge a bicycle with pizza and it's much faster.

      KFG

    2. Re:These guys are just lazy. by Billosaur · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lazy, perhaps... but lazy like foxes!! Imagine, quitting the workaday world on a whim, hatching a scheme to ride across America on what has to be one of the least inspiring forms of transportation available (I'd rather jog and I don't jog!), and film it, get it shown at Sundance (the new "buzz generator" [sorry Hollywood]) and reap the rewards as thousands of their friends (who have just as little life and money as they do) pay $10 a pop to see this in some theatre! Brilliant!

      Wake me when someone crosses America on Oprah's back...

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    3. Re:These guys are just lazy. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wake me when someone crosses America on Oprah's back.

      How about warning me? That's the last thing I want to see.

      Not to mention, depending on the state of her diet this week, it might take longer to cross Oprah's back...

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    4. Re:These guys are just lazy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nothing, on my roadtrip around the USA back in 2000, at Pike's Peak they talked about some crazy guy that spent a year or more pushing a peanut up to the top by his nose! Bikes are just lazy compared to that kind of peanut transportation!

    5. Re:These guys are just lazy. by Ykant · · Score: 1
      Not to mention, depending on the state of her diet this week, it might take longer to cross Oprah's back...

      I realize this post isn't in the games section, but it's similar in that every article in that section lately seems to have at least one reference to Shadow of the Colossus...

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    6. Re:These guys are just lazy. by zrk · · Score: 1

      I dunno, standing in pretty much one position, you're bound to cramp up, yes? Instead of getting an RSI (Repetetive Stress Injury), you get an SSI (Stationary Stress Injury).

    7. Re:These guys are just lazy. by zrk · · Score: 1

      Gah - I hate spelling errors - it's Repetitive, not Repetetive.

    8. Re:These guys are just lazy. by xhawk · · Score: 0

      How about this:
      Along the Rocky Mountains from Canada to Mexico on a mountain bike.
      http://xhawk.net/trips/2005_gdmbr/
      Batteries not required. :)

    9. Re:These guys are just lazy. by cojerk · · Score: 1

      Maybe if they rode a segway that was on fire accross the..

      Nah, that wouldn't interest me either.

      I wonder how long the movie is. Hopefully it's 3+ hours to simulate the excitement of traveling at 10mph.

      Next time they should do it on Big Wheels.

  3. Apt wording... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you're crossing America on a Segway, you'd definitely need a trailer...

  4. documentary ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    that paint they where watching must of dried, perhaps counting white lines in the center of the road is more fufilling

    1. Re:documentary ? by aputerguy · · Score: 1

      As I read the story, the only word that kept coming to mind is "LOSERS" -- or as my kids would do put the double-L hand symbol up over their head.

    2. Re:documentary ? by nolife · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Counting lines? I've done that while driving. I assume most interstates have roughly the same layout but I counted 142 lines per mile somewhere in North Carolina on I77 about 10 years ago. I used the mile markers on the side of the road for the distance. Well actually, I counted the road surface mounted reflectors at 71 per mile and there is one reflector every other line. My count may not be accurate as I was running out of ideas to try to stay somewhat alert after sticking my head out of the drivers window at 80mph with an outside temp hovering around 30F was not working anymore.

      An even further off topic note.. If you are traveling down an interstate and you notice the surface mount reflectors are red and not orange, you might want to turn around. In many places, they are red on the other side!

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  5. highway? by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 0, Redundant

    did they just use them on highways? I doubt an unmodded segway is street legal, they're too slow.. but how else do you cross America?

    1. Re:highway? by bohemian72 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The same way the bicyclists have been doing it, on the back roads. It is possible, there's quite a network out there. There's even a hiking trail, but I believe that's south of where these guys went.

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    2. Re:highway? by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      How do people get to their houses if they don't live on an interstate off-ramp? You know, it's amazing, but there are a lot of people who don't even live in a town that has multiple controlled-access interstate highways passing through. And they're not even farmers! I hear that some people still travel down old Route 66 on occasion...

    3. Re:highway? by slim · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hear that some people still travel down old Route 66 on occasion...

      And a mighty fine road it is too. However, old Route 66 varies from state to state. In some parts, partly due to the way the dice fell, and to the later efforts of preservationists, you can drive on the narrow old-style red slab road. Other parts of Route 66 have been literally paved over with an Interstate.

      Long stretches of Interstate have a parallel access road, and in places that's old Route 66 itself.

      Regardless, it's certainly possible to cross the USA on non-Interstate roads. I've come pretty close 3 times; but we weren't thorough enough to avoid Interstates when it would have been inconvenient.

      More problematic would be finding a route with frequent enough battery charging opportunities.

    4. Re:highway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but how else do you cross America?

      By plane. They went on board a cargo plane and drove in circles during the flight. That's the only way you can cross the US with a Segway on a single charge.

    5. Re:highway? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      As a member - though somewhat inactive - of the IL Rt. 66 preservation society, I can attest to both parts of that. A real big chunk of Rt. 66 in IL is actually I55 (or one side of '55), but the other half of '66 is still regular highway, running along side of the interstate. It's kinda nice being able to choose the leisurely, low-traffic version or the "I wanna run 80 MPH" version and really not have to change your plans significantly... :)

      The Hot Rod Power Tour was mostly 2-lane highway driving until the last couple of years. I've crossed the whole country north-south a couple of times on that trip - but never east-west.

    6. Re:highway? by tralfamador · · Score: 1

      Regardless, it's certainly possible to cross the USA on non-Interstate roads.

      not only is it possible, there's a great book about doing it called blue highways

  6. How about adding an inkjet printer? by UR30 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Combine this trip with the idea of the million-dollar homepage selling pixels, and you would get a inkjet-printer equipped Segway printing commercials of the sponsors on the asphalt all the way from Seattle to Boston.

  7. Advised not to promote? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Hope they kept it away from the White House, I heard Segways aren't too welcome there.

    On a more serious note, FTA:
    "Our focus turns now towards Sundance and some other strategies for the film. We have some exciting things in the works, but can't discuss yet. So, we've been advised to keep the promotional stuff to a minimum."

    Advised by whom? The law team of the company that will be promoting the movie for Sundance etc? Or perhaps the marketing team, to keep from stealing the thunder of a theatrical release?

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    1. Re:Advised not to promote? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      One of them was talking to his grandmother, and she said "don't talk to anyone about any of this". Yup, is was someone's grandmother giving out that advise.

  8. PR by mysqlrocks · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow, Dean Kamen (of DEKA Research & Development, the inventor of the Segway) is a PR genius. I'm sure he is behind this somehow. I used to work in a building in Manchester, NH next door to his office. He was always getting press on various things long before the Segway was announced. He got press on the Segway before anybody knew it was going to be called the Segway or what even what it was.

    1. Re:PR by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah it was known as "It" back then if my memory serves me correctly. And there was some vague blueprint out there on the net that looked like it could have been just about anything.

      Ah, the power of hype.

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    2. Re:PR by maynard · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Back then, "it" looked like this. Just sitting on that thing... YEAOCH!!!!!!!

    3. Re:PR by Nuroman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, he's such a PR genius that now everyone has a Segway. The old folks next door. The kids on the way to little league. There's so many out there you can't look out the window without someone riding by on a Segway.

    4. Re:PR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but it still beats dealing with the airlines.

    5. Re:PR by mysqlrocks · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he's such a PR genius that now everyone has a Segway.

      By PR I mean he is good at getting press. I didn't say he was good at converting that press into sales.

    6. Re:PR by Hao+Wu · · Score: 1
      "Wow, Dean Kamen is a PR genius."

      No, just a circus clown -- a wannabe 'Steve Jobs', but not the real thing.

      His marketing approach was pretentious to the point of insulting. He only talked about his own personal excitement, unproven genius, and pillow-chats with his wife that made one question if the man is even married. Or still a virgin.

      We are not redesigning cities, changing our driving habits, or spending thousands of dollars on a glorified electric wheel-chair. It doesn't take a Dean Kamen to see that.

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    7. Re:PR by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      He was always getting press on various things long before the Segway was announced. He got press on the Segway before anybody knew it was going to be called the Segway or what even what it was.

      I call those newsvertisements. They are common. Supposedly, these guys are very good at getting newsvertisements out in the wild.

      I'm probably talking about something that few people were conscious enough to remember here, but there was a very successful knife that was sold on TV in the '70s. It was called Ginsu, and it was the precursor to the modern day $19.95 junk on TV and infomertials.

      What these young industrious people did, was spend something like 6 to 9 months making a commercial on how to show off a knife to people. They perfected the commercial showing the knife cut tin cans and then a tomato and other stuff under the guise of an excellent Asian made knife.

      After getting the commercial together, they then decided to find a cheap supplier from Asia for an average set of knives to deliver to people when they called.

      They made something like $20mil in the '70s off of that commercial, and you can still get either "real" or fake Ginsu knives today. Personally, I'll stick to German made Henckel knives. They are better despite their lack of TV ads.

    8. Re:PR by jankyPhil · · Score: 1

      I know these guys and I can confirm that neither Dean Kamen or anyone else at Segway had anything to do with this project.

    9. Re:PR by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Supposedly, these guys are very good at getting newsvertisements out in the wild.

      Not nearly as good as these guys...

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    10. Re:PR by nolife · · Score: 1

      How do you define PR genius? I've heard about quite a few of the strange schemes and promotions for the Segway and it seems to continue to be nothing but a flop in the actual sales and usage numbers. Far from the numbers that those with a financial interest in the company had thought it would be several years ago.

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    11. Re:PR by timeOday · · Score: 1

      From a PR standpoint, the fact that they're not worth buying only makes it more impressive that everybody knows what they are. I mean, it doesn't take a PR genius to publicize a cure for cancer, right?

    12. Re:PR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PR genius? Maybe, but the main reason that got lots of press is that it had (for whatever reason... let the speculation begin) lots of $ and power (high-profile VCs) behind it.

    13. Re:PR by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Well, since you say so...

      Wait, who are you?

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    14. Re:PR by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Dean Kamen does not need his product to be used in "crossing america" by 2 idiots to advertise.

      He had press coverage because his products helped millions of disabled and ill people.

      http://www.usfirst.org/about/bio_dean.htm

      IMHO he should also declare that Segway isn't meant to cross america of any sorts. It is a city "device" which even its advertisements showed people putting them to car baggage.

      I'd blame his friends for very wrong publicity of product. Jeff Bezos is the first to blame. BTW, he also said "This thing isn't the thing I saw"

    15. Re:PR by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      From what Josh Caldwell & Hunter Weeks have told me of their meeting with Dean Kamen, he was excited about their use of his device.

    16. Re:PR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dare you question jankyPhil!

  9. Late again by darjen · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    These guys posted clips from their appearance on Fox News and CNN last August, and have had video Ipod feeds available since October. I'm glad to see such current news.

  10. Forgive me...... by acvh · · Score: 3, Funny

    .....they also appear to have hosted their website on a Segway.

    as for making a movie about their experiences - well, it probably won't be Easy Rider.

    1. Re:Forgive me...... by ehud42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder what their theme song was...

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  11. Virgin. by IAAP · · Score: 1

    If they cut a deal with Branson/Virgin, all they'd have to do is where jackets with "Virgin" in them, have the "Virgin" logo put on the segways, and a photo shoot with Branson.

  12. Hm, amusing timing... by MufasaZX · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    My fiance and I just got back to the SF bay area yesterday afternoon, completing a 7000+ mile road trip across the country and back again. Read about it here if you're curious.

    1. Re:Hm, amusing timing... by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 1

      For the record, I care, even if no one else does.

  13. two? by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait... TWO guys on a Segway?

    Well, that'll get this documentary an NC-17 rating if anything will.

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    1. Re:two? by Lev13than · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait... TWO guys on a Segway? Well, that'll get this documentary an NC-17 rating if anything will.

      Coming next year to Sundance:
      Brokeback Segway...
      "Balance Is A Force Of Nature"

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  14. Who'd pay to see by AkA+lexC · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    GWB going across iraq on a segway? he could be sponsored by pretzels :)

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  15. Just as slow by MarkNijhof · · Score: 1

    It looks like their site is just as slow as a segway now :)

    -Mark

  16. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and intelligent way to cross the Nevada badlands...

    1. Re:Hmm by bohemian72 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if their route from Seattle to Boston included a dip south to Nevada. Fortunately for them they crossed to the north of there, going through Idaho.

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    2. Re:Hmm by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there are back roads in Montana where you could run out of power and die in short order since cars don't pass by very often.

      How did the guy carry food/water/extra batteries with him, by the way?

    3. Re:Hmm by bohemian72 · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know about die. Without going back to check the article, I'd be surprised if they didn't have cell phones just for emergencies at the very least. Also, when people walk the Appalachian Trail, they'll often store supplies at points along the trail before they start out. I don't know if these guys did a similar thing or not, but I'd hope they would have at least planned ahead.

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  17. Oil consumption comparison by organum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it would be interesting to see a comsumption analysis for the trip in terms of oil. (Setting aside, for the moment, coal-genereated power, etc.). Perhaps the Segway vs. a bicycle vs. an efficient motorcycle vs a hybrid car.

    1. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      "Perhaps the Segway vs. a bicycle vs. an efficient motorcycle vs a hybrid car"

      I guarantee you that the bicycle uses the least oil of these four, unless of course the bicyclist subsists on a diet of oil.

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    2. Re:Oil consumption comparison by @madeus · · Score: 1

      I guarantee you that the bicycle uses the least oil of these four, unless of course the bicyclist subsists on a diet of oil.

      How is a bicycle guaranteed to use less oil than a Segway?

      If anything, I'd expect your average bicycle to use marginally more to keep it it good running order, given the mechanism is exposed to the elements.

    3. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy. Calculate all the oil it took to produce the electricity to charge the segway.

      However, in order to really compare this, you'd probably also need to calculate all the oil used in the manufacturing of all of these devices, and the oil consumed in producing and transporting the food necessary for the human to power the bicycle. But then you're getting pretty detailed.

    4. Re:Oil consumption comparison by nharmon · · Score: 1

      You take into consideration the oil used to generate the electricity to move the segway.

    5. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      You're right, a total fuel comparison would be necessary... but in terms of fuel efficiency, we could leave out the manufacturing process... unless we pro-rated it according to the expected life of the vehicle.

      I was going to go into that in my OP, but thought that brevity was the better tack for a Monday morning.

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    6. Re:Oil consumption comparison by birge · · Score: 1

      Why would you set aside coal generated power? That's the whole problem with these kinds of things. These guys are probably patting themselves on the back as "progressives" but I'd be willing to bet that people would be surprised at how inefficient it is to move around on a segway. Going from coal/nat gas to electricity, across the grid, into a battery, and then back to mechanical power is pretty lousy for efficiency. I'd be willing to bet a motorcycle would get better fuel efficiency with respect to emissions. And for two people, I'd put my money on an efficient small car.

    7. Re:Oil consumption comparison by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 1

      Hybrid cars rarely get what they are advertized to get in city and hwy milage. http://www.consumersearch.com/www/automotive/hybri d-cars/fullstory.html. Every motorcycle I have gets between 45 and 60 mpg in city and hwy. One is a 650 thumper (single piston) and the other is a 1100 v-twin. My buddies bike can get as good as 45 mpg if he is not pushing it hard and he rides a Yamaha YZF-R1. They may beat out the segway for oil usage, segways are battery hogs... they gotta be:) Bicycle gets it 100 percent due to long lasting lithium grease on the chains and only fabrication using oil (have to heat the metal somehow, have to power the welding machines some how, but motorcycles are more metal, and more welds).

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    8. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Sgt_Peppers · · Score: 1

      Though you also need to consider the oil used by the tractor to plant/harvest the additional food needed by the cyclist as they will be expending more energy and need to eat more.

    9. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      Bicycle gets it 100 percent due to long lasting lithium grease on the chains and only fabrication using oil

      Actually you should proably take into account all the petrochemicals used to grow the food that powered the bike-peddler - fuel for the tractors, feedstocks for fertilizers and pesticides (unless the dude was eating organic). Then there's the energy/oil costs of transporting and refrigerating the food.

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    10. Re:Oil consumption comparison by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 1

      you can probably bet the two guys on the segway are going to eat a whole lot more, and the same shipping costs go for the motorcycles (granted, one can do 1000 miles a day on a comfortable motorcycle, so less there). The less amount that the motorcyclist eats will probably be offset by the gas he is buring plus the two oil changes it would take to cross the country and properly maintain your bike.

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    11. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Thalagyrt · · Score: 1

      I have a 2005 Honda Accord Hybrid, and I have to say that's very true. Honda advertises 30 MPG in the city, and 40-45 MPG on the highway. My average mileage right now? 21.6 MPG. It's no better than a normal Accord V6 would be. I'm going to be taking it to the dealer, showing them the mileage, and complaining sometime in the next week. Add on to that that I do quite a bit of highway driving, my average should be much higher according to their spec. >:(

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    12. Re:Oil consumption comparison by notasheep · · Score: 1

      Actually, you would need to consider the difference in food consumption between the Segway riders and a bike rider. Unless, of course, you believe the guys on the Segway didn't eat.. ;)

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    13. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pulling numbers out of arse after 1min googling
      40cal/mile biking
      2800 miles cross country
      100 miles per day average
      guess 8 days to drive across country, leaves 20 extra for the biker
      2800*40=112000
      20*2000(average base metabolic rate) = 40000
      total = 152000cal
      If you want to do it cheap, i figure 2000cal in a 1lb bag of starbursts.
      152000/2000=76, so around $200 or so?
      thats pretty cheap for the caloric cost.

    14. Re:Oil consumption comparison by rtaylor · · Score: 1

      I think it would be interesting to see a comsumption analysis for the trip in terms of oil. (Setting aside, for the moment, coal-genereated power, etc.). Perhaps the Segway vs. a bicycle vs. an efficient motorcycle vs a hybrid car.

      Bicycles don't use very much oil but they sure go through a ton of cow and pig --Mmmmm pork.

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    15. Re:Oil consumption comparison by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 1

      I thought hybrids excelled at great milage in town and had the milage drop when on the highway. You should feel really bad... my civic gets an average of about 35 miles to the gallon (I commute in DC, so its kinda like city driving with highway everynow and then). I actually got 45 miles to the gallon traveling from TN to IL a couple of weeks ago. If you get the chance, learn to ride a bike... it can be a blast and its a fuel saver like no tomarrow

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    16. Re:Oil consumption comparison by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 1

      I have done Sierra Vista, AZ (near tombstone) to Peoria, IL (dead center) in 25 hours. I have done Peoria, IL to Pensylvania on a motorcycle with no windshield and had to quit because of rain/poor visibility. You can do a cross country trip on a bike in about 5 days.

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    17. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then there's the energy/oil costs of transporting and refrigerating the food.

      Maybe the cyclist could plot a path between all the organic farms and buy direct from the grower and not get food that need refrigeration. That'd save the transport and refrigeration costs.

    18. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, these democrat liberals think they are saving the environment by doing all sorts of whacky things. But if God didn't want us to burn oil why would He put it there for our use? Would God really give us the tools to destroy ourselves? I think not, He loves us more than that.

    19. Re:Oil consumption comparison by birge · · Score: 1

      Are you serious, or you being sarcastic. I don't really understand what you're getting at in either case.

    20. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Jerry · · Score: 1

      Three years ago I purchased a Saturn SL four door sedan with 5 speed stick shift. The milage on the sticker said 30 mpg in town and 40 on the hiway. Those numbers are pretty much what I get. My best in town was 32.1 mpg. My best on the hiway was 43.? mpg. That was on I-80 at 65 mpg. When I traver at 75-80 mph my milage drops to somewhere between 38-40 mpg. I am very pleased both with the fuel efficiency and with the over all quality of my Saturn. About two years ago some lady ran a red light and took the facia off the nose of my car. They had to tow her toyota away. I drove mine home, and then to the shop. Her tab. My Saturn still runs great. The only thing I don't like about it was the blue book priced dropped from $16K at sale time to around $5K resale value. I passed on the ICON3 that they offered. Besides, it got only 24mpg city and 30 mpg country.

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    21. Re:Oil consumption comparison by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      from his analysis, "40 cal/mile" I think he meant bicycle rather than motorcycle. If you can bicycle across country in 5 days, I'm impressed. Also I would like to see you leap tall buildings in a single bound and stop bullets with your skin.

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    22. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Sgt_Peppers · · Score: 1

      Hence the use of the word additional

    23. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      I feel sorry for you. My non-hybrid, automatic-transmission Honda Civic gets 25 MPG city (average trip length: 1.25 miles), and somewhere upwards of 40 MPG highway.

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    24. Re:Oil consumption comparison by notasheep · · Score: 1

      DOH! Need to look more closesly at which post I reply to...

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    25. Re:Oil consumption comparison by Millenniumman · · Score: 1
      And the oil needed to harvest the food to feed the people who help in the manufacturing of the vehicles. I'm sure one of them needs more people in the manufacturing process. But you also have to account for the oil these people use in their commute. And what about the oil these cars' mechanics use, and what about the oil used to feed these mechanics? And what about the oil needed to get this food to places where these people can buy it? And what about the oil needed to get the farming/auto repair shop/grocery store/etc. corporate employees to work? And the oil needed to provide them with food? Oh, and if some of these people don't use cars, it still takes electricity often made by oil to provide electricity for or produce their cars. There is almost an endless link that would end up making you count nearly everyone and everything that relies on oil, often more than once.

      I think all you need for a good comparison is the electricity used in Segways in the amount of oil it takes to produce it compared to the amount of oil used in cars. I would just count bikes as using 0.

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    26. Re:Oil consumption comparison by @madeus · · Score: 1

      Easy. Calculate all the oil it took to produce the electricity to charge the segway.

      Why use oil to generate the electricity?

    27. Re:Oil consumption comparison by @madeus · · Score: 1

      As I've said in a post just above, why just assume the use oil (of all things) to generate the electricity?

      Oil is actually one of the least common ways of fuelling power plants (far behind even the use of renewable resources).

    28. Re:Oil consumption comparison by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 1

      of course I couldn't bicycle across the country in 5 days.....that is just being dense. What my point was is that the motorcyclist will only be eating 5 days worth of food where the bicyclist would be eating a couple of months worth of food. By his own requirements for petrole usage... shipping of food and stuff, the motorcycle may be the cheapest route.

      BTW, I could ride a motorcycle across country in probably 4 days if I had a windshield and a larger tank. The getting off to refuel ever 100 miles is a killer and 85 mile winds in the chest will wear one out after a couple of hours.

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  18. Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by Gunfighter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can you imagine how long these two had to stand? At least on a bicycle you can sit on the seat. Perhaps slap on a Segway hack to give the driver something to sit on?

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    -- Stu

    /. ID under 2,000. I feel old now.
    1. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by anthonyclark · · Score: 1

      I've always wanted a recumbent tricycle with some kind of continuously variable transmission and a roll bar. It would look totally dorky, but maybe then I wouldn't feel terrified trying to ride on the road...

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      ----- Documentation is worth it just to be able to answer all your mail with 'RTFM' - Alan Cox.
    2. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Standing is much easier on you than actually pedalling a bicycle. Especially when it comes to hills. Standing in one spot can be hard, since blood will pool from lack of muscle movement. However this can be overcome by just moving your legs around a bit every once in a while, which is still less work than pedalling.

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      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    3. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by mrtrumbe · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Lots of people stand all day long at their job. Pit traders and security guards come to mind.

      In terms of mods, I'd be more interested in how they got the thing to travel more than the advertised 6-10 miles on a single charge. From wikipedia: "The p-series is capable of covering 6-10 miles (10-16 km) on a fully charged standard battery, depending on terrain. It takes 4-6 hours to recharge."

      Can you imagine covering the country 6 miles at a time?

      Taft

    4. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by maxume · · Score: 1

      Yeah, cause sitting on a bike seat is 'comfortable'.

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    5. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by OakDragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Before I would consider buying a Segway, I would wanted it modded in some ways. First, I would need a seat. Wait, maybe 2 - no, four - seats so that I can bring some friends along. Of course, that would affect the stability, so I would probably have to add another set of wheels. And with all that extra weight, I doubt the electric motor could provide the necessary juice, so some sort of gasoline engine might be appropriate. Then to keep the weather out, maybe some metal sheilding on the top and sides, with glass windows to see out of. Oh, and of course a radio.

    6. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      Yeah, cause sitting on a bike seat is 'comfortable'.

      truly insightful. not only that, they can make men sterile !

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    7. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by easytoplease · · Score: 1

      They should be stacked one on top of another, with a ladder for accessing the upper chairs. And since it would need to be handicapped accessible, you'd also need a ramp, perhaps going round the chairs at an incline. There would also need to be platforms on the ramp for stability in getting into the Segway chairs. The ramp shall be collapsible. There shall also be a pulley system for the obtaining of food and other nourishment without the hassle of getting down.

    8. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by canning · · Score: 1

      I imagine they're carrying spare batteries or something to that effect. If they didn't I don't think there would be towns every six miles to recharge the batteries.

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    9. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine covering the country 6 miles at a time?

      Yes. Lets assume you travel on a full charge, charge, travel on a full charge, charge while sleeping, and do the same thing the next day.

      Traveling 2462 miles @ 12.5 mph will take about 200 days.

      OK, that is two 100 mile stints with a 5 hour charge between them. Each 100 mile trek will take 8 hours (ouch). So one can Segway for 8 hours take 4 1/2 hours off while charging, Segway for another 8 hours, and then you only have 3 1/2 hours to charge and sleep for the next day.

      I imagine it would suck.

    10. Re:Stock Segways or were they modded somehow? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, cause sitting on a bike seat is 'comfortable'.

      truly insightful. not only that, they can make men sterile !

      That's not a bug, it's a feature. Why do you think there's so many hottubs in California?

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  19. Madder than a box of frogs by 99luftballon · · Score: 1

    I'm sure I could pop down to the shops in an F1 car but what would be the point. Use tech for what it's good for please.

    1. Re:Madder than a box of frogs by irokie · · Score: 1

      Whatever about being a publicity stunt, this is just some lads doing something fun. Pioneering spirit and all that. It's akin to hitch-hiking around ireland with a fridge. maybe they'll come out of it with a whole new perspective on life.

      or maybe they'll realise that it was a monumental waste of time. but whatever... let them do whatever they want, it's not hurting you, is it?

      --
      and if you see me strut, remind me of what left this outlaw torn...
    2. Re:Madder than a box of frogs by 99luftballon · · Score: 1

      Fair point I suppose, but it just seems a tad silly. To each their own I suppose.

  20. The Straight Story by jamie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The idea reminds me of The Straight Story, which was a really charming, honest, pensive film.

    1. Re:The Straight Story by joshv · · Score: 1

      Really, I thought it was a very cynical trick played on Disney by David Lynch. I think Lynch laughed himself to sleep every night while filming it.

    2. Re:The Straight Story by rgoer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Gotta love slashdot. A comment making a "Straight Story" connection (posted as logged in with a 5-digit UID gets +5, Interesting'ed), while a slightly different comment making a "Straight Story" connection (posted as AC) gets -1, Offtopic'ed. Go go gadget hive mind.

    3. Re:The Straight Story by bogie · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      This may come as a shock to you but certain moderators think and act differently. Sorry if this doesn't jibe with your "all /. user's are drones which think the same way" theory.

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    4. Re:The Straight Story by khallow · · Score: 1
      Really, I thought it was a very cynical trick played on Disney by David Lynch. I think Lynch laughed himself to sleep every night while filming it.

      He's not the only one. Brian De Palma also scored with "Mission to Mars".

    5. Re:The Straight Story by corbettw · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Gotta love slashdot. A comment making a "Straight Story" connection (posted as logged in with a 5-digit UID gets +5, Interesting'ed), while a slightly different comment making a "Straight Story" connection (posted as AC) gets -1, Offtopic'ed. Go go gadget hive mind.

      And I'm sure the fact that the +5 Interesting post was from an editor had nothing to do with it.

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    6. Re:The Straight Story by vdo2000 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me more of Dumb and Dumber when they ride a scooter across the Rockies.

  21. Fat man walking by beforewisdom · · Score: 0

    Another person who got sick on the ill effects of a modern American life has decided to do the same thing. He decided to walk across the US to cure his lifestyle induced weight problem. The ultimate iteration of the gym coach's "walk it off":

    http://www.fatmanwalking.com/

    1. Re:Fat man walking by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      Some people are happy being fat but just hate their job. For them, there's the segway - all the laziness of a car, with all the added benefits of a paid PR stunt.

    2. Re:Fat man walking by cliffy2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      i think you mean http://www.thefatmanwalking.com/, which is about the cross-country trek.

  22. A Segway? by LegendOfLink · · Score: 0

    I would've driven around a USB-powered scooter that is connected somehow, fantastically, to a Beowulf cluster.

    I know I'm lame, but I'm consistent, and lame.

  23. Saw these guys in Colorado by Brychanus · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I was taking my parents up into the Rockies in September (they were out for a visit and dad had never been), we were at a pull-off on the road up to Mt. Evans when we saw these guys. They told us they were mostly done with the filming, but had come back to Colorado to get a little more material they needed for part of it. One guy with a camera and a big van was filming another guy on a Segway. They'd chosen some particularly beautiful scenery as a backdrop, which I imagine was the point. Anyway, I guess my point was that the format for their filming was Segway + Big Van, not 2 Guys + 1 Segway.

    1. Re:Saw these guys in Colorado by slim · · Score: 1

      Anyway, I guess my point was that the format for their filming was Segway + Big Van, not 2 Guys + 1 Segway.

      So, we have to take it on trust that they didn't film a bit, pop the Segway into the van, drive 500 miles, get out, film a bit more, etc.

    2. Re:Saw these guys in Colorado by khallow · · Score: 1
      So, we have to take it on trust that they didn't film a bit, pop the Segway into the van, drive 500 miles, get out, film a bit more, etc.

      Or treat it as fiction. Actually one could examine the segway. If it has gone thousands of miles, that'll show up as wear and tear even on a movie.

    3. Re:Saw these guys in Colorado by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      Or just have the rider carry a GPS unit. They (or rather him, the man) can track you from the psychotronic signal it sends to the satellites. I read it on slashdot. Or was it a GSM?

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  24. "Beyond Brokeback Mountain" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  25. Would they need jackets? Nothing screams VIRGIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...like two guys on a Segway. Even if they stopped for a night of recharging on Brokeback Mountain :)

  26. This is a Fourth Grade Math Problem by jonathan_lampe · · Score: 1

    This is a Fourth Grade Math Problem

    You don't need two morons on a Segway to figure this one out.

  27. Attitude? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, I can't figure out if as a Slasdhot reader I'm supposed to support this endeavor or fanatically oppose it!!!! Can anybody tell me if Segways are Open Source or not? That will clear things up.

    1. Re:Attitude? by GweeDo · · Score: 1

      No No, we ask if they will drink their own pee to survive the trek in this case.

  28. Sundance? by digitalfilmmaker · · Score: 1
    Not this year...

    http://festival.sundance.org/filmguide/Default.asp x

    All films and filmmakers aspire to go to Sundance, only the slimmest minority actually make it there. And since this film isn't on the list, one can only assume that this film did not make it in.

    There are other festivals in Park City that are concurrent to Sundance, Slamdance being the most famous, and this film might be playing at one of those.

  29. Next week: Across The Andes By Frog by Ms+Understanding · · Score: 1

    From the BBC Series Ripping Yarns.

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  30. fracking .mov files by Yonder+Way · · Score: 1

    How about something that runs on more than just Windows and a Mac? I hear that a few people on this site might run Linux or *BSD.

    1. Re:fracking .mov files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear that a few people on this site might run Linux or *BSD.

      Until someone donates to their PayPal donation boxes, they won't be able to afford $10 for a movie ticket.

  31. Obligatory by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    But would it run Linux?

    (Correct response -- if's a Segway, then yes, just slowly.)

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    "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
  32. really lame by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    these guys are really lame, their concept sucks, and any company who would sponsor them is a joke.

    Why? Because it seemed they had the 'screw the working world' thing a little too planned. What was the original concpet anyway? 'Dude, i wanna ride a segway across the country?' Or, 'Dude we could make a ton of money if I take my trust fund and made a film of you riding your segway across the country on a journey of self-discovery.'

    It was more like a business venture than a journey of self-discovery. Plus, does it even count as a journey of self-discovery if they had it all paid for in advance? And, do documentaries do 're-shoots' regularly?

    And, c'mon...a Segway??? They could have at least put a little bit of technical information about their trip...did the guy actually ride the thing at 10mph the entire trip? If so, how did he manage to actually do that? If not, how did they mod?

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    1. Re:really lame by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      Hello all. Glad to see everyone all hot and bothered about our movie. I worked on this project as an assistant editor. I think it is interesting that you are able to make judgements on what they should have put in the movie, not having seen it.

      I actually found the idea to be unique and interesting when the filmmakers told me about it. Interesting enough too to get a lot of media attention despite being a self-funded effort. (Yes, they had some sponsorship, but I think most of the costs were out of their own pockets.)

      And actually I don't know if the word "Dude" even came up in their brainstorming sessions, but I can ask. I think it was more along the lines of "What a fun idea! Let's follow our dreams of making a movie, and follow the wind on our journey and see what interesting people and places we meet along the way." This movie is sort of a love letter to America. They were really most excited about seeing the true America that no one sees hurtling 70+ mph down the highway, with views obscured by billboards, and the only people you meet being gas station attendants.

      I am not sure if they really rode at 10mph the whole way. I know the top speed is 12.5 mph. But the average was probably 10mph. Again, I can ask. I know that they absolutely did not cheat, and that at least one man (Josh Caldwell) was on the Segway travelling the entire distance. Does it matter to you if they chose to name the movie 10mph instead of 12.5mph?

      Happy to answer any other questions you might have.

    2. Re:really lame by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      well thank you for you response...

      ok, so it was 12.5 or 10mph...i'm not nitpicking about the speed, i'm wondering why anyone cares that someone did this on a segway in the first place...but hey, it's your movie...i wish you financial success

      and, i should say 'props' to you guys getting some sponsorship...seriously, if you can get it for this project, then the rest of us have hope

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      Thank you Dave Raggett
    3. Re:really lame by theundergroundman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You seem to be oblivious to the criticism and focused on replying to the attempts to be clever. Here's why I am completely uninterested in your movie: As another poster stated, many people make similar trips on bikes. In fact one of my friends at school once biked across America. Typically no one makes a movie about these journeys and/or no one markets a movie about these journeys. It seems kind of less than genuine that these two guys on break from their corporate lives are travelling across the US on vehicles with a corporate vibe, with corporate sponsorship and their movie is getting corporate marketing. Even if their intent began very genuine it is hard to feel like these two are adventurous and interesting. Especially when know people who have made a similar trip, put in more effort by doing it on a bike and were not celebrated. It's like the peak of these guys getting away from a spoiled upper middle class life is in actuality not getting away from it at all. Not that I'm not spoiled and upper middle class as well but at least I can be honest about it. Whereas these guys don't appear to be honest with themselves. The worst offense is the cut in the trailer where one man perilously states they may not make it all the way. What exactly is their obstacle? Running out of money? If so it's because of their own poor planning.

    4. Re:really lame by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      I am not sure how I have time to avoid anything when I have only had time to respond to one post by the time your post was written. Ah well. I am available to discuss it now, if you are interested.

      It was never their goal to be celebrated. They simply wanted to make a movie, and they did it! They decided they would do something many have done: travel a great, record-setting, distance on a relatively new form of transportation, and they did it! They wanted to do it on a particular device that no one else has ever used for that purpose, and they did it! They decided these two goals worked well together, so they documented their trip. They wanted to see the parts of America that people don't normally see, and meet people that aren't normally met, and they did it! Three cheers for your friend on the bike! He/she achieved a wonderful goal! I think these guys did too, but not everyone has to agree with me.

      These guys are about two most genuine people I have ever met. They were never (as I understand it) trying to make a statement against corporate America or against anything else, they were instead trying make a statement FOR following their dreams. So I am not sure how they become hypocrites for making that happen. The amount of sponsorship they received was not enough to cover much at all. Like many first-time filmmakers, they have had to max out their own cards to get this made. They quit their jobs and put everything they had, including their hearts, souls, and all their own savings into this. They decided to make a gutsy move and leave a life that was unsatisfying to embark on an adventure. And they are also story-tellers, so they told their story too.

      If you want to know if or how they ran out of money, perhaps you are more interested in their story than you suggest.

    5. Re:really lame by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      I am not sure why anyone cares. But some do. Hopefully it will be enough. When I heard the idea, I cared. I thought it was such a cool idea. Enough people in the media and online have cared to get some attention, so some people are interested. There are lots of movies made about lots of different things for lots of different reasons. Why not add one about a journey on a Segway? On behalf of Josh & Hunter - Thanks for the props!

    6. Re:really lame by theundergroundman · · Score: 1

      So there isn't really anything meaninful here, just a couple guys on a goofy journey with segways?

    7. Re:really lame by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      Well, for them it was really meaningful. Look, they know they didn't actually do something as astonishingly physical as scaling Everest or similar. The method they chose was kind of funny, but not without its own difficulties. But the part of the experience that was meaningful to them wasn't standing upright for hours on end. It was seeing their country as they had never seen it. And daring to follow their chosen path. And especially the people. They met a lot of people along the way who were also following their dreams. They took the time to smell the roses and their lives were changed forever. To them the experience was really profound. I can't say for sure if it will be meaningful for you. But I hope so.

    8. Re:really lame by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      hey,

      way to support this movie. if I ever put out a lame movie, or any movie for that matter, I am hiring you to be my PR person. you rock! (no sarcasm here)

      I've read your comments, and I still feel the same way. There's nothing I see here that hasn't been done better elsewhere. And furthermore, like the other poster on this thread, I know or have heard of many people doing 'journies' like this who deserve to have a flim with a sweeping score and dramatic backdrops made about them way more than these guys.

      It just isn't interesting...now, take two inner-city orphans who have never seen a corn field in person, let alone the whole country, and put them on the journey across america on a segway with the two frat-tastic clowns who made this movie. Then you will see a journey of self-discovery....as the two rich privalidged guys see how much experience they have taken for granted in their lives while they witness the orphans seeing their country for the first time...

      If your dream is to make a movie, why make one so insignificant? Aren't there many more stories out there that are much more worthy to tell? I can crap in a jar and call it a film...literally

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      Thank you Dave Raggett
    9. Re:really lame by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      Well, I am not sure you could call that a film unless you actually put it on film. But hey, I have seen some art photos of urine and blood, so if you are so inclined, why not?

      I like that you make all kinds of assumptions on what kind of people Josh & Hunter are. Would it be ok with you if they made a film if they had been severely abused as kids? Would that have to actually feature in the film?

      I think you missed your calling. You should be a script-checker in Hollywood and make sure all those vapid and unworthy films don't get the green light.

      I look forward to seeing your crap film.

    10. Re:really lame by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      I look forward to seeing your crap film

      That sounds like a dare...

      I'm going to go off-topic, since probably only you and I are reading these posts. I am not an underprivalidged kid. My parents were, but I never really knew true want growing up, and I always felt secure that my work would be rewarded eventually with dollar signs.

      I do not know the filmakers as you do, but it is not too much of a guess that they had at the worst, an upbringing similar to mine. Maybe abuse changes things, but as far as ability to use their talents, well, I see them on roughly a level field with myself (I know it's conjecture, but i'm pretty much right...c'mon at least humor me). What I'm talking about is access...these guys pretty much have equal or greater access to develop their abilities as myself.

      What makes a truly underprivalidged kid, especially my hypothetical orphans, is that they do not have access near where myself and the two filmakers probably have. In my profession, education, the disparities in access become much more real, and I know it seems that people like me are just 'player hating' or taking out our life-frustrations on successful people. I assure you this is not the case for me...like I said, I'm not underprivalidged, but I have enough experience to know (know by doing and living...1st hand, not 2nd hand) that I have no way to properly contextualize the experience a truly underprivalidged person has in America. I do get all hot and bothered when I think that others like myself are purposefully choosing to be ignorant of their privalidge and how much easier it makes things for them.

      Exposing and exploring these types of inequities, as well as other contemporary issues of human existance, is where a film goes beyond just mind candy and makes it something truly real for the viewer.

      Now, I'm sure they do good deeds along their spectacular segway sprint across america...hell, i bet they draw attention to some good causes. Put a yellow ribbon on the segway...whatever... Bottom line for me though, I expect more. A fun mid-life-crisis trip that includes a visit to some poor people as part of an adventure is just not socially conscious enough for me to be interested. Compared to other genre films I enjoyed...it's not entertaining (like, say, Super Size Me), and it's not infoming me (like Murderball).

      but anyway, i'm sure your editing was very conscious and enlightened...why else would you defend this film so passionately?

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      Thank you Dave Raggett
    11. Re:really lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I can crap in a jar and call it a film...literally"

      oh, and you would, too - you're so self-absorbed that if you could get away with it, you'd do it and you'd LOVE the experience.

  33. "Society Revolutionising" by darthservo · · Score: 1

    So did Dean Kamen have film documentaries in mind when he made the "society-revolutionising" statement?

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  34. mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The file has been mirrored to this location : for 24hours.

  35. Talkin' bout my generation... by VAXcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    My generation's defining film - two guys do a big cocaine deal, drop out of society, take drugs and have sex with beautiful women while crossing America on outrageous Harley choppers (Easy Rider)....your generation, two dorks on Segways...

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    1. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by NardofDoom · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yeah, but these guys probably don't get shot at the end of the movie.

      I'm not saying they shouldn't be (for the sake of the gene pool), but still...

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    2. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      More like..

      My generations defining film.. One guy thinks he's two guys, has sex with a beautiful (but very messed up) woman, realizes the pointlesness of consumerism, forms a para-military organization, and blows up credit card company buildings (Fight Club). Your generations defining movie?... Forrest Gump.

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    3. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

      Easy Rider would have been a good movie if it weren't for the pointless film school ending, of course I guess that pretty much describes the movie.

      But really I guess there's no good way to end a movie like that, either film school or a cliche.

      My suggestion would have been to have them arrested and taken to jail. :-P

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    4. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      There's no arguemtn, Fight Club was a great film...but Forrest Gump came out in 1994, and thus is ANOTHER film that indicts YOUR generation...Easy Rider came out in 1969...that's the generation I'm talkin' bout...

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    5. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Belseth · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yeah, but these guys probably don't get shot at the end of the movie. I'm not saying they shouldn't be (for the sake of the gene pool), but still...

      Two guys cross america on Segways. Trust me, the gene pool is safe. Even if they are straight their odds of reproducing are slim.

    6. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      1969 is dead. As I understand it, generations grow older and don't live in one single time period. Baby boomers like to think of themselves as the flower-power-hippy-free-love generation, but they've all grown up and become corporate drones wanting a paycheck. Don't try to sell me that old Easy Rider story, because it ain't 1969 anymore.

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    7. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by radishes · · Score: 1

      Your generation - defines itself using films that came out a long time ago... our generation, tells you to shut the hell up, old man, we're antcipating cool things that will happen after you die.

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    8. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      Yah, whaterer you say Forrest...my generation invented rock and roll music, went to the moon, and stopped an unjust war. Your generation...wrote a web page and invented rap music? Ya have a lot to be proud of...

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    9. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      I'm hearing a lot of talk, but not much in the way of results...if you're not going to do anything "cool" until I'm dead, you'll be waiting another 40 or 50 years...by that time you'll be as old and unhip as you suppose I am now...that's a long time to wait......

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    10. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Way to rest on other peoples' laurels, old guy.

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    11. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Profound · · Score: 1

      My generation's defining film - two guys do a big cocaine deal, drop out of society, take drugs and have sex with beautiful women while crossing America on outrageous Harley choppers (Easy Rider)....your generation, two dorks on Segways...

      Riding Harleys with Hendrix in the background might have been cool in its day, but today, give me a Segway blasting out "The Final Countdown".

    12. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by patio11 · · Score: 1

      Are you willing to take that risk?

    13. Re:Talkin' bout my generation... by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Yah, whaterer you say Forrest...my generation invented rock and roll music, went to the moon, and stopped an unjust war. Your generation...wrote a web page and invented rap music? Ya have a lot to be proud of...

      I think you're maybe still a little strung out on the drugs you all took in the 60s. "Your Generation" didn't do any of that crap, unless you're a member of the Silent Generation. Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins were all born in 1930. I doubt there were many boomer engineers either that worked on the project, seeing how they'd all be in their 20s. Elvis Presley was born in 1935, Little Richard was born in 1932, and Chuck Berry was born in 1926. None of them is even CLOSE to being a baby boomer. If you really think a bunch of hippy protesters stopped Vietnam, you're sadly mistaken.

      The contribution of YOUR generation to the society is only an inflated sense of self worth. You seem to be a prime example of that, trying to claim the accomplishments of others for your own generation. Our idiot president is a perfect example of a boomer who thinks he can do no wrong.

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      AccountKiller
  36. that was much more tragic by artifex2004 · · Score: 1

    I can't imagine someone eating a Segway, can you?
    BTW, RY is out on DVD, finally.

  37. grievously misled... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    I was told this movie had robots in it!

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  38. Route 66 2006 by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 1

    A new TV show based on the old one which starred Martin Milner and George Maharis. The premise was they traveled RT66 in a Corvette to discover America. The new one could be two dorks on Segways doing the same thing.

    http://www.tvparty.com/route1.html

  39. I found Segway riding to be very tiring by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Informative
    A year or so ago, I spent a few hours on a Segway for a tour of Epcot Center at Disney World in Orlando. It was a ton of fun crusing around on the thing and I'd highly recommend it. But in the end, I found that my feet were really sore and tired at the end of the experience. Why? Because basically, you're just standing there. Just stand for 3 hours and let me know how you feel. Now walk around for 3 hours. Completely different feeling. Just standing and doing nothing else is very fatiguing.

    If anyone has taken a kid to Disney World, you know that you do a LOT of walking. My feet hurt more after my time on the Segway than they did chasing a 5-year old around Magic Kingdom all day.

    So while this may seem "lazy" and easier than walking or riding a bike, I can't exactly imagine a less comfortable way for an able-bodied person to travel a long distance. That said, I'd still love to get one.

    -S

    --
    --- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
    1. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by oneiron · · Score: 1

      Learning how to stand properly is much more difficult than walking properly. Walking is a natural motion we perform constantly to get from one place to another. Standing is something we rarely do.

    2. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by MixmastaKooz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I give three hour segway tours of Forest Park here in St. Louis, and the secret is to shift around...I usually have only one foot planted on the platform at one time while I rest the other: usually by planting my toes on the top side of the platform or over the backside (it's hard to describe...). I bet it's not "safe" but my muscles move and shifting enough that I'm comfortable!

    3. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Walking is a natural motion we are "designed" (evolved) to perform. Standing around is not. Hell, even sitting down is not, though lying down is.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by oneiron · · Score: 1

      We are designed to stand equally as efficiently as we are able to walk. The skill of standing can be learned with a minimal amount of effort, and ultimately, it can be more restful than sitting and almost as restful as lying down.

    5. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Given that standing is a skill and not simply an inborn ability, I must necessarily disagree with you.

      Sitting is much worse for you, though. In fact the current belief WRT varicose veins is that they come from sitting too much (and too hard/too fat.)

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by oneiron · · Score: 1

      Walking is a skill. Laying down is a skill. Sitting is a skill. All people have varying levels of ability in these positions. All people have the ability to improve each with practice.

      Sitting is not worse than any other position. Sitting too much might not be very good for you. Sitting improperly might not be very good, either...

    7. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      No, really, we are not designed to sit and we are not evolving to sit because the things that happen to you when you sit do not stop you from breeding. My understanding is that the same is true of standing still, but I've been wrong before.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    8. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1
      So while this may seem "lazy" and easier than walking or riding a bike, I can't exactly imagine a less comfortable way for an able-bodied person to travel a long distance.

      You must not have much imagination. For example, you could hang under an SUV.

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      Have you read my blog lately?
    9. Re:I found Segway riding to be very tiring by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      So while this may seem "lazy" and easier than walking or riding a bike


      You're right... unless you are going uphill, riding a bike is less work than riding a Segway, because on the bike you get to sit down, whereas the Segway forces you to stand.


      The solution, of course, is to place a barstool on the Segway and sit on it while driving.

      --


      I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
  40. bike seats like others but you've got to exercise by fantomas · · Score: 1

    yup, a bike seat is comfortable if you spend good money on a decent one and adjust it right. It's part of a piece of sports equipment not a lounge chair. But fit it right and work with it and can feel just fine, like a good pair of running shoes does for an athlete. If you've not cycled for 20 years then don't expect to get on Lance Armstrong's bike and be as comfortable as he is. Probably horse riders say the same thing about saddles.

    I guess the alternative is to do no exercise at but I've heard that folk who have medical conditions and sit or lie down all day end up with bed sores from even the most expensive armchairs and mattresses...

  41. Segway?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm still riding a Razor scooter, you insensitive clod!

  42. Old News by phugger · · Score: 1

    I saw this trailer at least a year ago. What's up with that?

  43. Forrest...Forrest Gump by thaerin · · Score: 1

    Reporter: Why are you doing this?
    Josh Caldwall: I just felt like Segwaying!

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    If big boobed women work at Hooters do one legged women work at IHOP?
  44. One more passenger with Felon-In-Command: +2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would make me buy the movie.

    That other person is President-VICE Richard B. Cheney (soon to be ex President-Vice).

    Seditiously,
    Kilgore Trout, M.D.

  45. On an intransitive verb ? by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1

    I mean, what's wrong with travelling on a good old fashioned Gerund anyway ?

    1. Re:On an intransitive verb ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Segway's not a verb, transitive or intransitive. It's a proper noun invented for the name of a product.


      segue, on the other hand, has a form as an intransitive verb, but that can't possibly be what you meant...

    2. Re:On an intransitive verb ? by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1
      Segway's not a verb, transitive or intransitive. It's a proper noun invented for the name of a product.

      Really ?

      And all this time I thought my comment was puny !

  46. Sounds fun, but not really special. by topical_surfactant · · Score: 1

    I find the Segway concept cool, but I also find this particular use a bit silly. Seriously, America has a problem with obesity, and activities like this only make it worse. An article in last week's Time (Or was it Newsweek? I forget) points out that personal transportation devices like Rascal scooters are becoming more and more popular, and are definately NOT helping people to keep their weight down. When it comes to your joints, muscles and overall health, "use it or lose it" is the general rule.

    I'm far more impressed with people who cross the country on unicycles. That takes some serious determination.

    1. Re:Sounds fun, but not really special. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Seriously, America has a problem with obesity, and activities like this only make it worse.

      <sarcasm>Because when most people travel across America they do it on foot or bicycle.</sarcasm>

      If people used Segways to travel routes on which they normally use cars, perhaps they would spend less time sitting in traffic eating fast food.

    2. Re:Sounds fun, but not really special. by topical_surfactant · · Score: 1
      Hmm, did I touch a nerve with that obesity remark?

      Standing is marginally better than sitting, if that's how you want to look at it. It still falls short of being a feat of any real note. Any overweight bozo can drive an idiot-proof Segway thousands of miles. They probably won't become any healthier in the process, either.

      I might be impressed if the journey was happening on a hommade balancing scooter, or in an ultralight helicopter. But this is just a ho-hum "wee, look at MEEEEEEEEEEE" stunt with no real merit. The end.

  47. They used I-Series by MixmastaKooz · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the pictures on the website, it looks like they used I-series Segways: the p series is smaller and is mainly used indoors. Now depending on the battery and the air pressure in the tire, it can go between 15-25 miles. If the tire pressure is the recommended 15psi, then the NiMh batteries will go about 15-16 miles (higher tire pressure will allow the segway to go further) and the newer Lithium batteries will go about 22-23 miles (once again depending on tire pressure). When I got my Segway training, I was surprised to find out how important tire pressure was to its performance (I work at a science center and teach people how to ride them). If they did this last summer, they should have gotten the Lithium batteries: I would feel sorry for them if they got the NiMh batteries as they don't work as well under hot conditions, and additionally, you should let the battery cool off before you charge it (and drain it once in a while too). The lithium batteries are much more forgiving.

  48. What if you nodded off... by Jerry · · Score: 1

    while traveling through the middle of the Nevada desert? That would be a rough awakinging!

    --

    Running with Linux for over 20 years!

  49. Riding a Segway through the hood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are they cutting straight across, or being selective about where they go? Somehow I can't imagine them getting very far crossing certain city centers...

  50. The Sequel to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  51. Still a genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy's still a genius. And using his intellect to invent things that help people (if you can ignore the Segway for a second, look up what else he's invented. Special wheelchairs that climb stairs, pumps for medical use, etc).

    Who cares if he's lousy at PR and/or public speaking.

  52. Server = Segway? by wuie · · Score: 1

    It looks like their server is a Segway as well. :(

  53. don't know by staedtler_36 · · Score: 1

    trying to change your life by riding a segway pass some cows across America? I would rather see a segway version of jack-ass...

  54. Mod me as -10 wrong by hackstraw · · Score: 1

    I fucked up the math. /me runs with tail between legs.

  55. I dub thee... by CaptSnuffy · · Score: 1

    "The Segway Diaries"

  56. Office Space by anglozaxxon · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the IMDB link to this completely irrelevant movie! I was wondering where that was.

  57. Mid-way through the documentary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Day 30: Batteries are dead and we're in the middle of Nebraska. Started walking.

  58. NYUD Mirror Link by DocJohn · · Score: 1
  59. Captialism by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    When money is the master metric, all manner of madness is manageable.

    --
    Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
  60. Old story? by __aaercy5451 · · Score: 1
    Is this the same story as this.

    Published Tuesday 3rd August 2004

    Team 10mph will have two Segways and 16 batteries available during their grand glide...on a 4,300 mile trek from Seattle to Boston...
    1. Re:Old story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup! Slashdot - the cutting edge of all (un)news!

  61. Makes real heros like Terry Fox or Rick Hanson pale in comparison doesn't it.

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    I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
  62. Video News Release by missing000 · · Score: 1
    That's what they are called.

    VNR's are really common, and the big deal here is that they appear to be news but are really pushing an adgenda. Funny how the administration is using them so much.

  63. You REALLY have to read the fine print! by ZoomieDood · · Score: 1

    Returning your products for service has reached a new low!

  64. Bah! Two wheel crossing? Try ONE wheel! by ZoomieDood · · Score: 1

    This page shows what appears to be a man in prison jumpsuit colors firmly perched on a 1 wheel motorized device (complete with a parts list and source code!).

    Three cheers for prison reform! 'Cause...dang....our state just has stone breaking, weight lifting, bike repair and woodshop!

    Well, then there's that new sport those two cowboy fellers are doing to each other while goat herding in that there new movie. Bare back? Broke back? Cum back for more? Anyway, one of those things.

  65. Rich guys' toys. by grumling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe it is a little bit of sour grapes, but does anyone really think the Segway is ever going to be used by the disabled and aged people of the world (or the mailman)? So far I've only heard of them being used by 1)polo players (woz invented it), and now this. I did see a few young yuppie types on a bike trail in Denver (side by side, taking up the whole trail), and judging by their bellies, they should have been moving their feet.

    --
    "Well, good luck finding a judge that doesn't run a bestiality site."
    1. Re:Rich guys' toys. by ninjagin · · Score: 1
      Actually, the predecessor to the Segway was Kamen's four-wheel-drive (6 wheels, though) wheelchair -- the IBOT --it can climb stairs and permits the user to sit at eye-level with the non-disabled.

      Here's a somewhat froo-froo link, but one that has a picture.

      If you google for IBOT you'll see a lot of coverage, but I have not seen any of these things around. Maybe there are still some approvals to work out. I wonder how much power they require, too.

      Anyhow, if the item can be costed such that a disabled person can get one at a reasonable price (or subsidized), I could see it as being a great use of the technology.

      Cheers.

      --
      .. pa-ra-bo-la, pa-ra-bo-la, 2 pi R, 2 pi R, where's your latus rectum, where's your latus rectum, 2 pi R
    2. Re:Rich guys' toys. by bjorniac · · Score: 1

      I know it's kinda random, but my school actually uses them for the physical plant guys to get around - see http://live.psu.edu/still_life/2004_11_11_segway/i ndex.html It's always kinda funny to see them going around on those things, looking embarassed as hell. But then again, it's faster than walking. The size of some of them makes you think a bike would have been better though...

  66. Re:Fat man walking (Where's the weight loss?) by Zendar · · Score: 1

    I'm looking at the photos of this guy and it appears he hasn't lost a single pound. As a matter of fact, he looks heavier than when he started. I've backpacked from Mexico to Canada on the Pacific Crest Trail and lost 50 pounds in 6 months (was somewhat overweight at the time but no obese). I've backpacked the John Muir Trail and lost 10 pounds (in 20 days). He should have lost at least 50-100 pounds by Texas, unless he's overeating and not really walking 100% of the distance.

  67. The movie title is... by bk4u · · Score: 1
    The Segway Diaries

    This isn't a tale of heroic feats. It's about two lives running parallel for a while, with common aspirations and similar dreams; also about two guys riding a Segway.

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    Remember kids, with great power comes great opportunity to abuse that power
    1. Re:The movie title is... by raider_red · · Score: 1

      So, does this mean we need to kill them both to keep one of them from turning into a murderous bastard like Che Guevera?

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      It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
  68. Just wait till it runs Linux .. by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 1

    .. then I'll order a Beowulf cluster of Segways.

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    I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
  69. A great experience by lisahurley · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hello there, I am the one who added my comment to Mr. "Really Lame" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173406&cid=144 27883. Like I said in my previous comment, I am glad to see everyone hot & bothered about our little movie. I worked as an assistant editor (among other things) on the film in question. Being involved with this project was truly a great experience. And I would be happy to answer anyone's questions on it. Of course, I was not there for the expedition. Perhaps Josh & Hunter, the filmmakers, will better able to answer some of the specifics, but I can help you out a bit too.

    Some intial responses to the questions I see on here...

    -Batteries -- They carried several with them. And changed them out as necessary. I don't remember if they charged the batteries when they stopped for the night, or if they had some method of charging on the road.

    -Trailer -- yes, actually it does come in handy when you have to lug lots of extra batteries around. (And we're obviously not talking about the common AA variety.)

    -Dean Kamen, was not involved in any way in this project. Though they did meet him at the end of their trip.

    -Two guys on a Segway -- not exactly. One man (Josh Caldwell) on a Segway made the entire journey, although others in the crew rode occassionally too, when they were stopped, or alongside Josh. I can assure you that there was no funny business on the device itself.

    -How long he had to stand -- well I am not sure how long Josh rode every day, but the journey was 100 days long, plus a little added couple days at the end to meet Segway & Dean Kamen.

    -how they travelled on a single charge -- as already mentioned they had several spare batteries with them.

    -did they film & drive, film & drive -- as someone who personally sifted through an unbelievable amount of footage, I can personally attest to the fact that they entire trek was on Segway.

    -Sundance -- Sundance lists some of their selections before they even accept submissions! Others are listed later. And I believe some films are sometimes accepted later.

    -10mph the whole way? -- Not sure, the max speed is 12.5 mph, but I think they averaged 10mph. I can ask. I know they rode by one of those speed detectors that tell you how fast you are going, and it read 10mph.

    -Saw the trailer a year ago. -- Don't think you saw this specific one as I am almost positive it was made last summer. Maybe you saw an early teaser? Why has it been a year and you still haven't seen the movie? The movie itself wasn't finished till last summer. They have been submitting it to various film festivals. When you are doing things independently, it can take a lot of time and hard work to get your movie out there -- it even takes Hollywood sometimes more than a year, cut them some slack, huh?

    Well, I think that's enough answers for now, let me know if you want more!

    1. Re:A great experience by theundergroundman · · Score: 1

      I would greatly appreciate a reply to my comment in the "really lame" thread.

    2. Re:A great experience by lisahurley · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sorry about that. After I wrote the reply I realized I should have written something more general under the main thread. Now I just realized that somehow I ended up in this thread when I swear I clicked to reply to the main one. Ah well. I am a newbie at Slashdot. But I have since replied to your thread. Thanks!

  70. I worked on this film. by lisahurley · · Score: 1

    I am having trouble posting on the main thread. If this goes in the wrong place again, I give up! Anyway, if you are interested, I have answered some of your questions about this movie in this post and I can answer any further questions you have. Apologies for the weird comment placements from a Slashdot newbie!

  71. A Sundance Sneak Preview by sunwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Segway Trail

    Narrator: Your Segway has lost a wheel. Resupply/Keep going?
    keep going

    Narrator: Sam has been bitten by a poisonous snake. Medicate/Keep going?
    keep going

    Narrator: Your Segway has run out of batteries. Recharge/Hunt?
    hunt

    Narrator: You are out of ammunition. You have killed everything in the vicinity. You now have 13,058lbs of meat. You are overburdened.

    Narrator: Sam has died.

    Narrator: The Segway is irrepairable.

    You have died of stupidity. Play again?


    We laughed, we cried...Segway Trail. Watch it.

  72. MOD PARENT FUNNY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even though I like the Segway, that was hilarious.

  73. one more by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    yeah, i just checked out the bio's on the website...it's a small word. I have been a snowboarding instructor at Breckenridge Ski Resort (next door to Keystone, where Josh Caldwell was a ski instructor) for the last 4 years.

    Now I really think these guys are lame...they should know better!

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  74. Shameless Apple plugs again by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Cities will be built around these things... - Steve Jobs, 2002

    Download the 10 MPH trailer formatted for your video iPod. - 10mph.com, 2006

    I scratch your back...

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    "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife