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Jack Thompson Tossed Out Of Court

dmouritsendk writes "According to a story at IGN, Jack Thompson has been removed from the lawsuit filed by the families of two murdered police officers vs. Rockstar, Sony and game retailers. While previously he stated that he had withdrawn, details have now come out that the judge actually pulled his temporary license to practice law in Alabama. The reason for all this? Thompson's behavior." From the article: "The removal of Thompson from the case does not necessarily represent the end of the trial as his long-time associate Ray Reiser will assume the role of lead counsel for the case's plaintiffs. Not one to take such things lying down, Thompson fired back at Judge Moore by claiming the the judge has 'has violated... The Alabama Canons of Judicial Ethics by his unfortunate, improper, and prejudicial acts in this case, at the expense of three bereaved Alabama families.'"

381 comments

  1. Who is Jack Thompson? by colin_n · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can anyone explain who this guy is?

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    1. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Braino420 · · Score: 3, Funny

      yup

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    2. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by pat_trick · · Score: 4, Informative
    3. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Jerry+Coffin · · Score: 4, Informative
      Can anyone explain who this guy is?

      The short version is that he's a guy on a crusade against video games. One longer version can be found Here.

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    4. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 3, Funny
      Can anyone explain who this guy is?

      Couldn't Google or Wikipedia for his name, could you???

      The only person who's dumb enough not to do that is...OMG IT'S YOU, JACK THOMPSON!

    5. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 4, Informative

      An asshole Christian fundemental lawyer who acts as if he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America. Because he states these facts so loudly, he is commonly interviewed on sunday morning talk shows and the like whenever some violent act occurs.

      The funny part being that the things he claims happens in these games, many times is false; whether lie by ignorance or intent I'll leave an excercise to the reader.

      He also appears to believe that his internal thought process is the one most likely for the US government to follow, and displays genuine surprise (and shock) when this is not the case, as in recently when he tried to get Gabe and Tycho of Penny Arcade locked up. Because they posted a blog indicating what a dick he was being to them and their loyal readers took affront to this mistreatment and wrote to tell him so; some of them not so politely, as I understand it.

      One may also speculate that the massive traffic from Penny Arcade shut down his web server. But you can hardly blame that on PA can you? ;)

      The funny part is, it was all because Jack promised $10,000 to the charity of choice of the first game development team that made a video game with a certain (particularly twisted) plotline, I guess to prove some sort of point (its my understanding that Jack is given to hyperbole)... when someone came through and made a (pretty extensive) mod to GTA putting Jack in the gunman's shoes raiding and shooting the employees of game stores, he refused to pay up.

      So Penny Arcade went ahead and paid up. That, apparently, is what started all of this.

      I recommend going through Penny Arcade's recent news archive for more details...

      Oh and thinkgeek DOES sell an "I hate Jack Thompson" T-shirt if you're interested...

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    6. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Jack Thompson" is the name of an upcoming computer game title where a former lead counsel turned mad kills everyone at an Alabama courthouse with Doom 3 style weapons. Mark my words.

    7. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because he states these facts so loudly

      You misspelled "misguided opinions" in your post.

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    8. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by goldspider · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "Oh and thinkgeek DOES sell an "I hate Jack Thompson" T-shirt if you're interested..."

      Qute a mature, reasoned response to the ravings of this lunatic.

      Nothing establishes your credibility and validates your viewpoint like an inflammatory t-shirt. Way to take the moral high ground!

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    9. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by valhallaprime · · Score: 0, Redundant

      He's the right-wing radical Christian lawyer version of Gary Busey. That's all.

    10. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America

      This is a little offtopic, but not too far.

      Humans are violent animals that are more often than not rewarded for being violent, even if it is against their own species. What evidence (if you believe in evolution to some extent) is there that we lost that hunter drive?

      We get together in by the thousands to over a hundred thousand people to watch modern hunting games like soccer, football, basketball, etc.

      We also get off on killing animals for "sport", even though we have other ways of obtaining food.

      Its not that bad, my cats still have it too.

      They have no need to hunt or kill. I give them a free flowing container of food, but they still kill rabbits, mice, and birds. And they bring them to me as a present too!

      Is killing wrong? Not necessarily. But it does not come free of consequences either.

      I love the religious saying, "Kill 'em all and let God sort them out". I can't put it any better than that.

    11. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 5, Funny

      An asshole Christian fundemental lawyer

      Please don't use the term "Christian" to refer to Jack Thompson, for the same reason that you shouldn't use the term "monkey" to refer to George W. Bush.

    12. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The great part is... I don't need to take the moral high ground!

      Morality in the context of Jack Thompson must refer specfically to religious morality. As a Zen Buddhist I care nothing for his Christian morality. Neither, incidentally, does the justice system of the United States of America.

      Yes, I truly hate the man; both for purposefully deceiving America about what is involved in my favorite hobby with the intent of attaching a social stigma to the practice of such, for striving to make the practice of this hobby impossible for me and many others through barring and outlawing the content, and for trying to hold responsible the makers of videogames for acts which should be laid firmly at the foot of the persons doing these heinous deeds, or in some cases, partially at the feet of their parents.

      Yes. I can hate a man that does those things. And I don't feel any need to pander to some so called moral high ground... I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm right. I know I'm right. If other people want to believe me, great. If not, well that's their choice. I'm pretty sure that if you stood me and Jack Thompson in a room together for five minutes on national television, and I said the most inflammatory hateful things that is in my soul to say, that I would STILL come out of the debate looking far more credible.

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    13. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

      Thanks for disrespecting Christianity, which has nothing to do wih this in the same way that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism. If faith is/was at all mentioned it was only as a mask for pure politics my friend.

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    14. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOu hate Christians, Yet you take advice on moderation from a fat Buddha?

    15. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      If I wanted to see sigs, I would enable them jackass.

    16. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by CFTM · · Score: 1

      I prefer the religious saying, "DEATH TO ALL ZEALOTS!"

    17. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even so, it is wrong to ridicule Christianity. Most Christians simply laugh off this guy, myself included, even down here in the 'Bible Belt'. Trust me, he is all politics and this has nothing to do with his Christianity.

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    18. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do apologize to all the Christians out there. Calling Jack Thompson Christian is a lot like calling Osama Bin Ladin Muslim... Many (in fact most) Christians are calm level headed people who would never knowingly lie about a videogame simply to prove a point, would not start a one-man crusade against immorality in the (supposedly) free United States, and would certainly not try to lay responsibility for hundreds of murders at the doorstep of videogame publishers, and not the people who, you know, pulled triggers to make bullets fly through the air at other people...

      Most Christians would also not associate what is obivously a simple (and asinine) teenaged prank on a plaintiff in a multi-million dollar lawsuit...

      (from wiki's jack article)

      Upon returning home Jack Thompson discovered a tube of vaginal lubricant left at his front door. Thompson said he believes Rockstar may have been responsible for leaving it there.

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    19. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      How do you turn "darkness" and "gloom" into weapons?

    20. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Professr3 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, we don't want to be associated with him, for obvious reasons. He reflects badly on his species.

    21. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by opposume · · Score: 1

      He is someone who cannot go a day without a post on /... Nothing new to see here move along...

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    22. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by plasmasurfer · · Score: 0

      Asshole Christian fundamental lawyer
      Isn't that some sort of complex oxymoron?

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    23. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The name Lionel Hutz comes to mind.

    24. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 5, Funny
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    25. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right and I do want to make clear that when I talk about Jack Thompson, his brand of Christianity has as much to do with what they practice at the church down the street as McDonald's McFish sandwich does with the ocean...

      To a man like this, his religion is a tool. It's one he brandies about and waves to get what he wants. Sure he likes to wave his Bible around and pretend that God is personally on his side. But if you were to show him some Biblical passages about freedom of choice and the ability of lawyers to turn darkness into light and so on... well I'm pretty sure he'd just rip those pages out and burn them on the courthouse steps...

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    26. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by NicklessXed · · Score: 1

      Of course those shirts aren't exactly what you would call "mature". But they are, in my opinion (and apparently not only in mine) quite funny. Those shirts aren't supposed to make some great argument, and prove your moral superiority. It's not like there was any point in trying to do this, anyway, with a lunatic like Jack on the other side. There are many ways to make actual arguments, state facts and validate your viewpoint on the issue. A shirt isn't one of them. Until it is, you need to loosen up a little.

    27. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's offensive to the Christians and monkies?

    28. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by rco3 · · Score: 1
      Asshole Christian fundamental lawyer

      Isn't that some sort of complex oxymoron?


      No, it's simply an example of redundant redundancy, with a spare redundancy just in case.
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    29. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

      Thanks for clearing that up, it's just that you came across as anti-christian at first,m instead of anti-religion-as-a-political-tool.

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    30. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by goldspider · · Score: 1

      "As a Zen Buddhist..." "...I truly hate the man."

      I admittedly don't know much about Zen Buddhism, but hatred and enlightenment don't sound like compatible concepts to me.

      I think Jack Thompson's crusade is rather silly. Your excessive rage over such a trivial issue is silly too.

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    31. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by 3dZaphod · · Score: 1

      Oh whew, for a moment I thought Jack Thompson got thrown out of court...

    32. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by gstoddart · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Morality in the context of Jack Thompson must refer specfically to religious morality. As a Zen Buddhist I care nothing for his Christian morality. Neither, incidentally, does the justice system of the United States of America.

      Yes, I truly hate the man;

      Hmmmm .... the core beliefs of Buddhism are not orthogonal to Christian morality. As a matter of fact, if you take the list of virtuous/non-virtuous actions prevalant in Buddhism, you should find a lot of overlap with Christian morality -- maybe not a fundamentalist one, but you cover the high points at least.

      Zen is still a Mahayana school last I checked. Unless you're just parcticing Zen, and not Buddhism. But that's different.

      Hmmm, I don't remember any sutras covering "mindfully hating lawyers from Florida", no matter what they've done.

      Sure, he's an idiot. But you should have compassion for his idiocy -- and, if need be, you should still have compassion while bonking him on the head if it's for his own good. ;-)

      But, hey, I'm just killing a few moments anyway and I'm probably just a figment of your imagination.

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    33. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry; if you read through my other posts in this thread (grandchildren of my post) I make clear that my opinion is pretty much the same as yours.

      I have nothing against Christians (or anyone of any religion) who believe that I have as much a right to my own beliefs as they do to theirs. Men like Jack Thompson use their religion as an excuse to try to amass power; the kind of power that survives even death, power over the thoughts of men.

      Asshole.

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    34. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really dislike your use of the word Christian asshole, man, perhaps you should look into what real Christians are rather than judge us by the few cooks.

      Second, I don't think Thompson is Christian whatsoever. Please, he's siding with Hillary Clinton on GTA :P

    35. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by LithiumX · · Score: 4, Funny

      I still don't fully comprehend this whole Karma Whore concept.

      What is the advantage to trying to rack up a whole lot of karma, when from what I understand it's already capped? My karma read "excellent" quite some time back, and since then I've gotten high karma on most of my points (it must be my trim Buddha-ish physique)... but other than having two initial points instead of one when my posts are submitted, I don't see how things are any different, nor have I seen anything change since then.

      If we rack up massive karma points, do we cross some threshhold? Do we suddenly start seeing articles before they're actually written, or do women start showing up at our door? I'd whore my karma all over the place if the chicks dig it.

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    36. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen!

    37. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      No, because I keep getting him and Jack Valenti confused. :) I can't seem to keep my jack offs straight.

    38. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      ...who acts as if he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America.

      That's just crazy...

      Because he states these facts so loudly, he is commonly interviewed on sunday morning talk shows and the like whenever some violent act occurs.

      The funny part being that the things he claims happens in these games, many times is false;
      whether lie by ignorance or intent I'll leave an excercise to the reader.

      However, a case might be made for other deleterious effects of gaming......

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    39. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes. Yes to all of that.

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    40. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Oh I'm not angry at him personally. Nor do I wish him any specific harm. I just wish he would stop trying to curtail my freedoms. And I hate him for trying to do so.

      I don't believe that hatred and enlightenment are incompatible. I'm a hedonistic Zen Buddhist; I believe that enlightenment, the peak spiritual state of the human condition, may best be reached through understanding the passions of the human heart. Many of these passions are negative. And try as you might you will never rid yourself of them. Many people quote Siddhuartha as saying that desire is the root of all evil. A possible alternate translation (and the one I choose to believe) is that unfulfilled desire is the root of all evil.

      As such I recognize my passion in this matter. I personally wish Jack no harm but I am passionately opposed to what he is doing and would take any actions available to me to stop him.

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    41. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by susano_otter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not disputing anything you say, except that "violent" is a relative term. Humans are no more violent than hawks, or bears, or rhinoceroses, or elephants, or even dolphins.

      What is different about humans, apparently, is our sense of shame about our violence. Humans seem to be alone among all creatures in believing they are out of place in the evolved order. Humans alone seem to regret doing what all other animals do instinctively, without remorse.

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    42. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      FTParent'sLink:
      "Slashdot trolling is a subset and a microcosm of Internet trolling in general. Some of these behaviours are usually considered to be more offensive or insightful than others." (emphasis mine)

      Umm, shouldn't that be incite-ful? Or, rather, 'more inciting'?

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    43. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Can anyone explain who this guy is?"

      In layman's terms, he's the audio file that goes along with the Goatse pic.

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    44. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by carlos_benj · · Score: 3, Funny

      I admittedly don't know much about Zen Buddhism, but hatred and enlightenment don't sound like compatible concepts to me.

      I think he's a fundamentalist Buddhist.... See, there's the difference.

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    45. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 1

      Heh, it's not like you can't change it...

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    46. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

      A: He's the guy who's going to sue you for not having heard of him, thereby damaging his reputation by implying that he isn't famous.

      A: He's the guy who's going to sue the judge who threw him out of court for damaging his reputation and hurting his chances of winning his case.

      A: He's the guy who's going to sue Slashdot for mentioning his name in a forum that is strongly biasted against stupidity.

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    47. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      I wonder what's his position on gun ownership as most 'fundamentalists' in America love them.

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    48. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      I myself am not a zen buddhist. I am a long time game player seething with repressed rage, etc.

      The thing that bothers me about JT is the same thing that bothers me about a lot of extremist pundits...Their perfect willingness to mislead, exaggerate, and outright lie when confronted with a rational, factual argument.

      You see this all the time in tv news...They know that the talking head has no interest in their veracity, so they just make up some horrific sounding statistic or factoid, then strawman their opponent to death with it.

      In terms of agressive debate, it's nearly flawless. They retake the initiative, while their opponent is stunned, and the same stunned-ness makes it appear as if a telling blow has been struck. I've seen this tactic used with the "Abortion causes cancer" factiod, saw Thompson himself swear that you could get graphic child nudity from The Sims, and that all gun violence was directly related to video games---even so far as to say that kids were fine with bringing guns to school before video games.

      That's why I hate him...Because he is a lying, loudmouthed, fecal pudding, with the moral intellectual integrity of a serial poodle rapist.

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    49. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by nsayer · · Score: 1
      Others have eloquently explained, but I will chime in my own description: He is the Jeff Godwin of violent FPS video games. In that sense, he's just another specific example of a generic class of fucktard.

    50. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by masklinn · · Score: 1

      Nay, this article is full of fallacies, [url=http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson]th is one[/url] has much better informations on Thompson.

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    51. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      I agree with you; my moral system does share a lot in common with many Christians.

      And even as a Christian I wouldn't necessarily feel a need to share moral ground with Jack Thompson. The keyword in that phrase was " his Christian morality"

      Now as to how I feel my feelings about Jack Thompson align with my personal beliefs... well let's just say that malice of word does not equal malice of intent. And unlike many Zen Buddhists I do not feel that practicing my beliefs means that I must purge myself of all negative emotions and thoughts; only the desire to act upon them...

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    52. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      "And they bring them to me as a present too!"

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    53. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Damvan · · Score: 1

      "Thanks for disrespecting Christianity"

      I think you are being overly sensitive here. He didn't disrespect Christianity in that post, he simply used Christianity as a way to describe Jack Thompson, as an adjective.

      I guess you could be upset that a person like Jack Thompson is being associated with your religion, anyone would.

    54. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The funny part is, it was all because Jack promised $10,000 to the charity of choice of the first game development team that made a video game with a certain (particularly twisted) plotline, I guess to prove some sort of point (its my understanding that Jack is given to hyperbole)... when someone came through and made a (pretty extensive) mod to GTA putting Jack in the gunman's shoes raiding and shooting the employees of game stores, he refused to pay up.

      I still don't know why they don't file suit against him for breach of contract based on promissory estoppel. He made a public offer; they (arguably) fulfilled the conditions he laid down; he did not, prior to their performance, rescind the offer using the same media as the initial offer; promissory estoppel prevents ex post facto revocation of the offer. Release the hounds!

    55. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I still don't fully comprehend this whole Karma Whore concept.

      Posting as AC to avoid Karma Whoring....

      The problem with KW is that it takes about 5 seconds to cut & paste an article or provide a really obvious link. This action may be very useful (esp. in /.'d sites), but you don't want to give the poster Karma. The harmless reason is that one shouldn't get the credit for someone else's content. The cynical reason is that it helps trolls rack up enough Karma to get the +1 credit, which in turn makes it much easier for them to add troll comments and/or noise to future threads.

      Thus, if you see a non-AC posting posting of an article's text or a useful link, the correct mode is "Funny" so they won't receive any karma.

    56. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by hackstraw · · Score: 1, Informative

      Humans are no more violent than hawks, or bears, or rhinoceroses, or elephants, or even dolphins.

      Hawks about equal I guess, maybe we have an edge.

      Bears, I would give an edge.

      Rhinoceroses, I would definitely give an edge.

      Elephants, maybe equal, maybe a slight edge for people.

      Dolphins, we will kick their ass and put them in a tunafish salad.

      What is different about humans, apparently, is our sense of shame about our violence. Humans seem to be alone among all creatures in believing they are out of place in the evolved order. Humans alone seem to regret doing what all other animals do instinctively, without remorse.

      To a degree. This is covered fairly well in Genesis when we ate from the tree of knowledge and our new knowledge gave us things like shame and self awareness.

      Other animals have regret and remorse. My cats don't, but I've had dogs that did.

      Humans are special in that they are so good at killing stuff, that measly animals are not that tough, so to be a real hu"man" we need to kill other humans. Plus we are over populated to some degree. And we have religions that tell us to be nice to one another, but if yours tells you to be nice for a different reason, then I'm just going to kill you for that.

      Besides the cool structures and things that we build, humans are not that interesting of an animal. We are slow to develop, not that bright on average, we smell bad, we are physically weak and slow, etc. Without toys, we wouldn't be much.

    57. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 4, Insightful
      A possible alternate translation (and the one I choose to believe) is that unfulfilled desire is the root of all evil.

      Have you even read any buddhist writings? It's called the center path - and is the only path to enlightenment. You say that you prefer a different translation to the Siddhuartha and believe that ignoring desire is the root of all evil. That's called being selfish and self centered. That is not enlightenment, that is a cop out.

      Can you actually say you are a better person because you do whatever you want to do? Because that means you know nothing of restraint or sacrifice.

      I don't believe that hatred and enlightenment are incompatible.

      Let me appeal to your "Zen" more than the "Buddhism" with this quote:

      Those who are good at fighting do not become angry.
      Those who are good at knighthood do not become overly militaristic.
      Those who are accustomed to defeating their enemies do not get involved.
      - Sun Tzu.


      If hatred and enlightenment are not incompatable to you, that is because you are not enlightened.

      Perhaps you meant violence and enlightenment are not incompatable.
    58. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by zee-mich · · Score: 1

      Some Christians are cool. Like me. And, ya know, those who aren't stupid. Like our friend Jack.

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    59. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by mal3 · · Score: 1

      Actually, you'd do well to be judged by your cooks. Church potlucks are generally good eatin'.

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    60. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      its from BackInTheDay(tm) when your karma was shown as an int (not only to you, but to everyone else) that's why they switched to just showing excelent when it's over the value that gives you the +1 - to try to reduce the whole competition thing.

    61. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Talinom · · Score: 4, Funny

      To a man like this, his religion is a tool.

      Whoa. Question: I thought that Jack Thompson was the tool.

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    62. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Atzanteol · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "Karma whore!" is the whiney cry of those who wish they'd posted earlier.

      I don't care what wikipedia says. Relevant insightful posts are bad now?

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    63. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by xs650 · · Score: 1

      You're right and I do want to make clear that when I talk about Jack Thompson, his brand of Christianity has as much to do with what they practice at the church down the street as McDonald's McFish sandwich does with the ocean...
      <p>

      Jack Thompson's brand of Christianity is far more common in the US than many realize. For everyone who is out in the open about their extreme views like Thompson, there are many, many more sitting there like bobbleheads saying Amen! to brother Thompsons good work.

    64. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by StarKruzr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, for some people, even Jack Thompson is going to hell.

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    65. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I never claimed enlightenment.

      And I never said that I do whatever I want to do and call it religion.

      Nor did I say that I believe that knowledge of restraint and sacrifice are required to be spiritual.

      I merely said that unfulfilled desire is the root of all evil. That's just one sentence. I don't believe that means I should have my every desire fulfilled; only that I don't believe it's wrong to have desires and passions that are fulfilled.

      Nor do I believe one must purge oneself of all desire to attain enlightenment; only that one must learn to fulfill all desire, even the ones that cannot be fulfilled. And to answer your indirect question, yes I do believe that I am a much better person because of this.

      Are my thoughts different from those of most Buddhists? Sure are.

      That doesn't change the fact that I have them and that I believe they are in accordance with the group of teachings and writings that most people would identify as Zen Buddhist.

      And you, my friend, I think need to examine your inclinations here. Are you a Zen Buddhist to prove to other people that you can masterbate in a temple with an Eastern interior decorator better than anyone else? Or to achieve enlightenment?

      I'm not here to argue over my beliefs. Nor do I find such argument particularly productive. I didn't form my beliefs in a day reading some box of cereal. These are firmly held and well thought out convictions that I've held (and evolved) since I vowed to be completely nonviolent for the rest of my life nearly fifteen years ago. I appreciate your thoughts, I really do, but have to question the validity of advice on being a Zen Buddhist from a man whose primary purpose seems to be not to enlighten me, but to convince me I'm wrong.

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    66. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by millennial · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it's the cry of people who know that you can find everything on Google, no matter what.

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    67. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by anotherzeb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mate, as a 'Friends of the Wetern Buddhist Order' Buddhist, I'd like to suggest that you modify your meditation. Through correct meditation procedure, you can learn to maximise positive desires - I guess that the wish to achieve enlightenment for the benefit of all sentient beings would be the big one, but there are plenty of others. You can also minimise negative desires - the ones that lead you off the eightfold path would be the main ones, but if you are thinking of killing or maiming someone, then a meditation technique called the Metta Bhavna sounds like the one for you. This can be used to eradicate your negative deires - the main format allows a person not to feel hatred to an individual and it can be modified to promote positive feelings towards all others. I'm not at the stage where I'd be nice to Saddam Hussein and I've never planned on killing someone, but it does help me to act towards others in a way that I consider positive

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    68. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Diocleciano+Palma · · Score: 1

      An asshole Christian fundemental lawyer who acts as if he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America. Although I might agree with the POV of the parent, it's not really informative (rather insightful) when it's this opinionated...

    69. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by pat_trick · · Score: 1

      Sorry; I'll be sure to post useful info as AC from now on in order to avoid the ever so dangerous term of "karma-whore".

    70. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, there's no further effect - the karma bonus for comments is pretty much the only goodie you get. You might still try to get as many +5 comments as possible, for example, but that's sportiness rather than anything else. (Slashdot golf?)

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    71. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by jcr · · Score: 1

      Yes, I truly hate the man

      How can you hate someone who is so ineffectual? I reserve hate for people who are actually dangerous to my liberty.

      -jcr

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    72. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      You misspelled "misguided opinions" in your post.

      No, they are facts. They just happen to be false.

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    73. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by anotherzeb · · Score: 1

      I think it's fair to assume that you as a human have more intelligence / sentience / moral structure (delete appropriate) than your cat. Sure we have some way to go to lose the hunter drive (or maybe instinct) but do you really want to be controlled by a bunch of impulses that arose out of necessity through our evolution and haven't yet died out despite the fact that they aren't nearly as important to our survival as they once were. Or would you rather have your logical processing and to a great degree our long term emotional state of mind? I'm not saying that there's a problem with the sports you listed and probably a bunch more would apply to the same group, but saying that a lot of people like sports is a bit different to saying that we are violent animals, suggesting that this is somewhere in our genetic makeup or something rather than us paying more attention to our evolutionary out of date impulses than to our thoughts. We have the choice to be violent, but I don't think that makes us a violent species

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    74. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by anotherzeb · · Score: 1

      Please don't use the term "Christian" to refer to Jack Thompson, for the same reason that you shouldn't use the term "monkey" to refer to George W. Bush.

      Sure, most monkeys would hate this, but I knew one once who was so thick he wouldn't even be offended by this. I'm not judging - he had learning difficulties and was basically very nice, although there's no way I'd let his family hearing me comparing their sibling to George Bush

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    75. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by compro01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      facts are not facts if they are false

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    76. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a Zen Buddhist
      Yes, I truly hate the man;

      Sorry, you're no 'Zen Buddhist'. Do you say you are just to get attention?

    77. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      I think it's fair to assume that you as a human have more intelligence / sentience / moral structure (delete appropriate) than your cat.

      Its not an assumption. Its a fact.

      My cat can only kill with its claws and teeth. I have an arsenal of weapons to kill morally or otherwise at my sentient discretion.

      do you really want to be controlled by a bunch of impulses that arose out of necessity through our evolution and haven't yet died out despite the fact that they aren't nearly as important to our survival as they once were

      Do I have a choice? I think sneezing is stupid. I sometimes think my life would be completely more simple if I no longer had a sex drive. I think violence and killing are basically the end all be all. Can you think of a more powerful agent than that?

      saying that a lot of people like sports is a bit different to saying that we are violent animals

      Yeah. What kind of verbs do we use in sports? Kill, demolished, wiped out, etc. If we want to get rid of the violence, then sports, video games, and all of that needs to go.

      I surely don't see it happening in the next 1,000 years.

      We have the choice to be violent, but I don't think that makes us a violent species.

      Bullshit. We have no more choice than my cats. If being violent is a choice, and perceived as a bad one, why do people do it on a continual basis? Why do we find it interesting to watch murder mysteries instead of slug or cucumber mysteries? Why do we play with guns when we are kids? Why are violent video games more popular than tickle me elmo games? Violence is a fact. In many respects, its intermingled with sex. We use sex terms and violent terms interchangeably. "I'm going to fuck you", can mean two entirely different things.

    78. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by anotherzeb · · Score: 1

      Do I have a choice? I think sneezing is stupid.

      Do you belive that you have as much control over your decision to pick up a gun and shoot it as you do to sneeze? If so, please don't assume that everyone else shows this lack of control.

      Yeah. What kind of verbs do we use in sports? Kill, demolished, wiped out, etc

      I accept that violent words are used in relation to some sports, but don't accept that saying a violent word is the same as performing a violent action

      Bullshit. We have no more choice than my cats.

      You really credit yourself with as little self control as a cat? As for playing with toys that are representative of violence as children, did you play with a gun or a sword as a child? Are you now a serial killer? Did you ever try to kill someone with your toy? There can be a difference between the object and the intent of the person using it

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    79. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Aeiri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ... but that's sportiness rather than anything else. (Slashdot golf?)

      GOLF IS NOT A SPORT!!!

      Luckily, since my karma has been topped off at Excellent for a good year or two, I think I have enough slack to handle the -1 Trolls and -1 Flamebait moderations that are sure to follow :).

    80. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a serial poodle rapist, I'm horribly offended.

      I mean, I'm a pretty crappy guy, but I'm not THAT bad. Sheesh.

    81. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      But then again, isn't pretty much any religious fundamentalist just a pain in the ass? I'm a practicing Christian (Burn karma burn...), but find so-called 'fundamentalists' like Jack Thompson to be the most irritating creatures on this earth, with the exception of wasps.

      Be it Christian, Muslim, Sikh, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu... anybody forcing their views on anyone else (Even if I happen to agree with some of them) evidently hasn't read the appropriate scriptures properly since as far as I am aware, and scholars feel free to correct me on this one, all the religions I named encourage gently moving people towards the appropriate truth, and seriously discourage using threats or violence to get your way.

      Conclusion: Jack Thompson is neither Christian, Buddhist, or even sentient.

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    82. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I can't seem to keep my jack offs straight.

      Maybe it's time to come out of the closet.

    83. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you a Zen Buddhist to prove to other people that you can masterbate in a temple with an Eastern interior decorator better than anyone else? Or to achieve enlightenment?


      Where did I ever claim I was a buddhist? I claim that you sir are not a buddhist, and if you are - you're a really shitty one.

      You claim to be a Zen Buddhist, yet you warp the teachings to coincide with what you believe them to be, that's not how it works my friend. If you want to go and behave in any way you want and then claim you subscribe to a well defined doctrine, you are no better than Jack claiming he's a christian.

      Your interpretation is all well and good, you can create any splinter faction you want, but don't tarnish the reputation of those who truly strive for enlightenment by claiming your one of them. Your beliefs are in now way, shape, or form congruent with Zen Buddhist teachings. You have stated youu are a hedonist, that you hate, and have berated me for having an opposing opinion. That's real enlightened of you.

      I see guys like you all day, variable definitions of things so they can never be wrong. Everything is up to interpretation because you actually understand nothing. You can't handle even the most simple of truths because it means you would have to change your approach to the world. Your complete lack of understanding of anything I have said proves that you know nothing of Zen or Buddhism. You may have cultivated your beliefs, but that lends them no credibility. You associate them with a an easily recognizable title so that others can marvel at your superiority. That fact is, you are not what you claim you are.

    84. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by c_forq · · Score: 1

      But the Karma Whore comment was in response to the Wikipedia link, not the Google one. I don't think it should be regarded as Karma Whoring since not everything is on Wikipedia, and there are many stubs and other articles that are not useful on Wikipedia.

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    85. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      This is mostly because it's really easy to get people excited when you preach ignorance and fear, but it's hard to get people to actually think about their religion. Unfortunately for America, many people are happy in their ignorance.

    86. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by acvh · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Further off topic - I didn't think golf was a sport either, until I started playing. It's competetive, difficult, and I hurt like hell after playing. That qualifies it as a sport.

    87. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      Are you now a serial killer?

      At this time I'm not going to answer.

      The reason the term "serial killer" exists is because there are serial killers. There are serial killer detective specialists.

      We imitate killing since we are kids. We gauge history by wars. We play video games with lots of killing. We watch movies, tv shows, and read books about it.

      It seems like its something we like to do. Like my cats like to kill stuff.

      Or they don't have a choice.

    88. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Thus, if you see a non-AC posting posting of an article's text or a useful link, the correct mode is "Funny" so they won't receive any karma.

      But what does that do to people who personally apply penalties to "Funny" (Check your preferences page if you don't know what I'm on about)? Apparently, people do it to read /. seriously and avoid stupid jokes (personally, I love the jokes)

    89. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      Perhaps the future will bring change. Consider: modern cell phones give us an almost instant link to the Internet, so we can do fact-checking (almost) in real time.

      It won't be too long before we have a "better interface" to the Internet. By this I'm not saying a direct Matrixesqe neural link (although that's coming); I mean something like a display in your glasses, and a special microphone so you can subvocalize (move your mouth in the speech pattern without actually making sounds) to control it.

      At that point, the host (of a TV program) could immediately confirm or deny the statistics and confront the liar with them. We'd end up voting in far fewer liars, I would imagine.

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    90. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by 920714 · · Score: 0

      biasted against stupidity

      I'm still debating if this was intentional.

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    91. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by BKX · · Score: 1

      Though I disagree with the premise that hatred and anger are compatible with Enlightment, I also agree with it. Hatred and anger do have a place. We need acknowledge them and find their source before we will be able to see the world for what it truly is (become Enlightened). But enough talk on that subject, time to rebut the claims of the parent.

      You seem to have forgotten that Buddhism is a religion of inclusion. While his path may not be mine (or anyone else's), it is still his path. If it gets him closer to enlightenment and he considers it Buddhist, then it is Buddhist. Buddhists tend to consider any path to Enlightenment valid. We are not the members of most other religions; we do not critisize the ways that others practise, nor do hold that others will not become Enlightened if they do not practise as we do. No matter how strange that may seem, it is accurate.

    92. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Kaboom13 · · Score: 1

      Most karma whores do it to build up a large number of accounts with excellent karma and mod points. If you do this enough you can create a web of accounts that mod each other up etc. Why people take the time to do this, I don't know [url]http://www.anti-slash.org/%5B/url%5D is a site dedicated to trolling slash dot, and "gaming" the moderation system. And in case you were wondering I've been at the cap for a very long time, so this doesn't count as whoring.

    93. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      a forum that is strongly biasted against stupidity.

      I didn't know slashdot posted on other forums!

    94. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      How do you turn "darkness" and "gloom" into weapons?

      Contract Tim Burton to design an FPS?

    95. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by DreamingReal · · Score: 1

      I'm a hedonistic Zen Buddhist

      Which tells me you either don't know what hedonism is or you don't know what Buddhism is.

      That's like saying you're a meat-eating vegan.

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    96. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Lucractius · · Score: 1

      Id say the more accurate argument would be one around him not being truly Zen, since there are a number of buddhist "sects" if you will, that are based on hedonism and such things as Tantra & the one-ness of self and the one-ness of self and partner, attained in sexual climax.

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    97. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      Other animals have regret and remorse. My cats don't, but I've had dogs that did.

      There is nothing to support this claim. Dogs in particular are easy to anthropomorphise -- we ascribe human-like qualities and motivations to their behaviors because they seem familiar and endearing. This proves nothing. Read any reputable book on canine psychology.

      Many dogs have been needlessly euthanised or cast out because of problematic behaviors which the owners tried to correct by applying human psychology. When human psychology fails to produce results, the dog is considered "hopeless," when a simple application of appropriate canine psychology could have corrected the behaviors.

    98. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Even so, it is wrong to ridicule Christianity. Most Christians simply laugh off this guy, myself included, even down here in the 'Bible Belt'.

      You need to do more than just laugh him off. Jack Thompson and his ilk associate themselves with your religion. You need to proactively fight against the influences of such people. Otherwise people like myself and the OP will continue to associate them with Christianity.

      Just look at how Islam has been progressively villainized in the past 50 years. Why is this? It is because of the lack of large-scale Muslim demonstrations against terroristic violence.

      What are we supposed to think when a lunatic like this spews ridiculous garbage and there is no massive Christian outcry? To us, it looks an awful lot like you agree with him.

    99. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Lucractius · · Score: 1

      Its the fact we belive ourselves to have evolved beyond the need for such base behaviour that causes the problems n the first place. Sublimation of feelings is Psychology 101, Now there are a lot of violent feelings, and a lot of people subliming them. Society represses its own violence. Look at things in post WW2 germany, that takes the cake for self repression in my book anyway. It only takes a certain amount of time before sublimied and repressed things surface. People snap, Countries cant settle differences, wars break out. whatever. Its NORMAL. Its NOT good. But its NORMAL.

      Sports exist for the purpose of providing competition and a means to satisfy the desire to feel superior that was originaly gauged durng its formation by a persons ability to beat the crap out of anyone that tryed to tell them what to do.

      People do have a choise in their behaviour clearly, But they shouldnt try and deny their nature as creatures heavily influenced by strong emotions that are primarily centered on the self. (Strong empathic emotions towards others such as self sacrifice and charity, often being secondary symptoms of the emotions of the self, such as socialy induced shame at not helping others, or the desire to make themself look better by doing so)

      In blunt. Stop your bickering your both going no where with it.

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    100. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by millennial · · Score: 1

      The point is that you can Google for things on Wikipedia.

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    101. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 1

      Your statement has affected me to remember a time when I did consider myself a buddhist, and often announced myself as such. This being the case, maybe I should clarify my perspective.

      I understand that buddhists accept all attempts at enlightenment as valid, it was this aspect of buddhism that compelled me to quit applying that identifier to myself. I personally do not believe that all attempts at enlightenment are valid. I honestly believe that some attempts are fueled or supported by tenants that will ultimately result in one perceiving themselves as elightened, when the truth of the matter is that the enlightenment they percieve is false and self perpetuated. This self-dillusional enlightenment cannot be correct.

      It is because of this that I take careful steps in not labeling myself as enlightened, nor do I proclaim that I am on the(a) path of enlightenment. Yet, my past does allow me particular insight into those who claim to be buddhist in some regard, but overstate it's influence in their life.

      I do not deny that the person I criticize does exhibit behaviors that show buddhist influence, but it is another claim entirely to say you are a buddhist. According to your own statements, a buddhist does not criticize anothers methodology of applying buddhism to their lives. Yet, the poster I criticize does just that. You also state that as a buddhist one who does criticize anothers application is still considered buddhist, yet I am in need of correcting.

      The situation exists as this. I, a non-buddhist, have criticised another person who considers themselves a buddhist. I have stated that they are not a buddhist. This statement has caused not only the person in question to respond with antagonism, but has lured another person seemingly educated on the subject to support that persons position without regarding how the tenents they defend also apply to me. It is this contradiction that is the fulcrum of my position.

      If a person was truly a buddhist, and another person questions them - an enlightened person would disregard it. My belief in you being either a buddhist or having achieved enlightenment has no influence on the truth of the matter. If you are a buddhist nothing I say can change that. If you are enlightened no opinion of mine can make that untrue. The documented attempts at disproving me are actually exhibits in my case that the poster is not a buddhist.

      My intent, which I believe has been misinterpreted, was not to prove myself right. I am also not interested in making someone else feel they are wrong. I was attempting to address what I feel are unproductive and false applications of the philosophy in terms of true enlightenment.

    102. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Hosiah · · Score: 1
      If we rack up massive karma points, do we cross some threshhold?

      Well, see, what people don't know* is, karma is actually multiplying out of control, like bacteria in a petri dish. If it gets to critical mass, the Earth will explode with a sound like a set of bagpipes having an orgasm. Fortunately, we have these Slashdotters who have been convinced that karma is tasty and nutritious, and they act as safe karma-disposing entities.

      *shhhhhh, don't tell.

    103. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ne0n · · Score: 1

      more information: Jack Thompson is a pervert and a liar, who shamelessly makes up some pretty amazing rubbish about people he doesn't like. He finds amusement in words like "cabbage" and will probably steal anything in your house that's not nailed down. Also, as a lawyer, you can bet that he's got three fingers up his own rectum even as you're reading this.

      Hope that helps.

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    104. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it wrong to ridicule Christianity? No really, spell it out for me i'm interested.

    105. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by killjoe · · Score: 1

      Although all animals kill to eat (like us) they don't seem to engage in the gratuitus and mindless violence nearly as much as we do especially within their own species. When two wolves or rams square off one usually submits before things get out of hand.

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    106. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, users with Karma scores of 800+...those were the days. When the cap was introduced the old scores remained, so although you couldn't gain any more, you had a long way to go before your karma receeded to 50..

    107. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by proudhawk · · Score: 1

      hmmmmmmmm.

      makes you wonder why we haven't "hung all the lawyers" yet?

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    108. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by MadMoses · · Score: 1

      He's the guy who's going to sue Slashdot for mentioning his name in a forum that is strongly biasted against stupidity.

      Are you speaking of some kind of secret forum on slashdot that I haven't found yet? ;)

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    109. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by SirPavlova · · Score: 1
      What are we supposed to think when a lunatic like this spews ridiculous garbage and there is no massive Christian outcry? To us, it looks an awful lot like you agree with him.

      Unfortunately, a lot of us do agree with him. I think it's a pretty small percentage, but there are a lot of Christians.

      I try to counter the impression that we're all like him when I see it, but it's hard. People just don't want to listen to it, either the fundies or the ones associating them with Christianity as a whole. In general, people are not open-minded or liberal, however they may label themselves. The worst I ever came across was a 16 year old atheist on a forum... man, was he dense. Couldn't cope with the idea that you could believe in God without accepting the Bible as 100% accurate in every single way.

      Still, I don't believe the majority of Christians are like Jack. If most of them knew what he was saying, they'd probably disregard him as the moron he is.

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    110. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      The internet is only as good as the information on it, which in turn is only as impartial as those putting the information there.

      Google hard enough and you can find pages and pages of spurious "facts" supporting any position you like, from partisan/amateur bloggers, on-line tabloids, etc.

      Of course, you'll also find a lot of credible stuff debunking that position, so ultimately it really depends on who you believe, which is a judgement call based on (you guessed it) your existing personal prejudices.

      What all this fundamentally means is that the intelligent, enlightened self-questioning people will constantly check their opinions, and likely be right. The fat, stupid, bigoted, prejudiced ignoramuses will merely continue to believe whatever they like, and justify it by cheerry-picking the sources that agree with them.

      Sure, in the future I sincerely hope there's some kind of impartial reputation system that would differentiate worthless or inaccurate information from respected, researched and evidence-based stuff, but I have no idea how it would work, or how it would be protected from common misconceptions of the majority...

      Short version - yes, I'd love to see this, and it could help reduce the influence of fuckwits the world over. However, I think in reality it'll just change politicians from "liars" to "misrepresenters of statistics"... which is pretty much what they're all about now (less some members of the Bush administration, who apparently can't do anything as complicated as "spin", and so settle for just lying through their teeth).

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    111. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Conclusion: Jack Thompson is neither Christian, Buddhist, or even sentient.

      I'm SOOOO adding you to my friends list

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    112. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      This has always been the most amusing thing about religion and philosphy. If someone takes a fancy to some elements of a belief system but perhaps don't like some of the rules, you just fork and develop your own branch. I meet a lot of casual christians who have just adopted the common happy touchy feely (easy to adhere to) stuff but ignore the more serious rules that are either anachronistic or just plain difficult to observe.

      This is made easier by the fact that many religious texts are volumous.

      I can see how annoying this could be though when someone co-opts your belief system. Maybe there needs to be an ISO standard for religions?

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    113. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      And thus you have found my central conflict; I am a hedonist who follows Buddhist teachings. But I do not believe in reincarnation. So I would be Zen Buddhist, who do not necessarily believe in reincarnation, but I am a hedonist.

      This is a conflict I long ago resolved within myself; but I am willing to admit that to anyone else it seems strange. Of course, to most people, I seem strange all the time...

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    114. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Let me make this clear; I long ago purged myself of any desire of violence.

      The start of my journey was one fateful day nearly 15 years ago when I hurt many people close to me in a violent rage. I vowed on that day to never do harm to another human being. A vow I keep to this day. I was meditating and concentrating on my inner self for several years before I ran across a Zen Buddhist. I found someone else who did these strange things I did and found that most of her thoughts and opinions were things I liked and/or believed myself.

      Thank you for your recommendation of the Metta Bhavna; be assured I will look into it. There are many things I detest, some logical and consistent, some not so; and while I do not apologise for feeling and believing the way I do about these things, I appreciate the opportunity to examine these feelings and turn them into more positive things.

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    115. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by anotherzeb · · Score: 1

      If you know about psychology, could you explain if it is possible to feel anger and happiness about the same thing at the same time? I ask because I am not sure that it is (although I'm no psychologist). What I'm thinking of is the idea that if we spend time focussing on what I shall call positive emotions (which I'm using to mean things like happiness, joy, love, etc) we don't have time to focus on the emotions that are more likely to lead to violent behaviour. I agree that we are selfish enough creatures for our emotions to be primarily centered on the self, but I use this to realise that I feel better about myself if I lend someone a hand, act in a nice way towards people than I do if I spend my time being angry at people - have you ever noticed this about yourself?

      As for sports - I neither watch nor play them, so if they are the only way we have of satisfying our violent impulses, does this make me a potential serial killer?

      And the bickering - what else is Slashdot for?

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    116. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a zen buddist, how can you be right? how can you be wrong? You believe in nothing, therefore you do not have morals that you live towards, so you cannot comment on someone else's morals.

      (oh, and it is not very zen of you to hate.)

    117. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear old Jack has absolutely nothing against guns. He has stated on numerous occasions that, before video games, kids brought guns to school all the time and just never used them. Apparently, if you've never played GTA before, you just don't know how to opperate a firearm.

    118. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by mlu035 · · Score: 1

      As a Zen Buddhist I care nothing for his Christian morality

      Very good, Zen indeed.

      Yes, I truly hate the man

      Not very Zen. Oh dear.

      Yes. I can hate a man that does those things...I know I'm right

      I think you failed your Zen test.

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    119. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you! I need a good one-line response for people who ask who JT is when they see my "I HATE Jack Thompson" t-shirt, and this is most definately it.

    120. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by HarvardAce · · Score: 1
      I'm a practicing Christian (Burn karma burn...), but find so-called 'fundamentalists' like Jack Thompson to be the most irritating creatures on this earth, with the exception of wasps.

      I find it interesting that you are a practicing Christian but that you find wasps the most irritating creatures on this earth.

      That kind of reminds me of the Sprint commercial:
      "It's my little way of sticking it to the man" says a top executive to his underling, explaining why he likes a particular Sprint cell phone plan in a nicely played spot.

      "But you are the man," says the underling.

      "I know."

      "So you're sticking it to yourself."

      "Maybe."

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    121. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I have a cat who when he's bad, if I rail at him with sufficient vigour, will eventually put on the most amazing contrite expression. Then later in the day he does this "you wouldn't really put me in the barn, would you??" suckup behaviour, similar to a dog that knows it's been bad and is trying to "apologize" (tho a dog will usually learn from correction, and this cat doesn't, being dumb even as cats go). But agreed, he's an anomaly; most misbehaving cats are concerned only with getting the hell out of reach.

      And as to hawks, they're not particularly violent. Doves and sparrows, now there's real violence!!

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    122. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by mink · · Score: 1

      There is much more to Tantra Yoga then just sexual gratification. I wish people would not focus on that single aspect.

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    123. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by susano_otter · · Score: 1

      Wolverines.

      Rhinos and Elephants rampage for fun, killing lesser creatures without effort or thought.

      Recently in South Africa, a Baboon snatched a human child out of its mother's arms, took it to the top of a nearby power pole, and ate its brains. Seriously.

      Monkeys often persecute and kill outcasts in their tribe.

      Lions and Dolphins, among others, murder young not their own.

      To all these actions we ascribe "natural" and "healthy" instinctive motivations. Yet we hesitate to ascribe such motives to our own. Why is that? We don't call it gratuitous when a Shark does it. Why call it gratuitous when a Human does it?

      Is it because Humans don't feel like they have a good reason for their killing? Why should that be? Why should Humans, so obsessed with ascribing reasons to everything else, be so completely unable to come up with good reasons for their own actions?

      Either Humans do have good reasons, just like every other creature in the evolved order of things, in which case the question is "why don't we feel and understand our reasons?". Or else Humans alone of all the animals have no reasons at all for what they do, in which case the question is "why should Humans alone of all the animals have no natural purpose to their lives?"

      Why is it natural for infant hyenas to spend their first days of life trying to kill their litter-mates, but when humans indulge in killing sprees we call it murder?

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    124. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the end nothing is incompatible. When you hate or desire, you must realize what that feeling is, and really comprehend your emotions. The problem is not having desire or hate, but dealing with it improperly, one must not confuse the causes of suffering with the natural reactions of the human mind. Those who have reached the bliss of "enlightenment" still feel the pressures of the world, they just do not feel them as pressures. One should ignore nothing in life, if you have a feeling, feel it; if you are in a situation, live it.

      Never should one consider the "only" path to enlightenment, enlightenment is a transitory state, as is the rest of existance. The Buddha did not write the writings of Buddhism, and he was quite adamant about rejecting the possibility of telling others how to live their lives. If one truly finds enlightenment in the way they experience, one's experience has taught one well.

      That being said, the generally accepted belief is that the "middle way" of practice will bring enlightenment. The middle way is not a rejection of anything, but an acceptance of the needed balance in life.

      I hope I've offended no one, just saw a moment to clarify. If anything I said is wrong to you, so be it, it is right to me. If you wish to correct me, feel free, though I likely will not come back to check.

    125. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      While I don't disagree with your premise, I think the helplessness you portray is inaccurate.

      Wikimedia has done a lot for showing how a loose collaboration of many individuals can create a stable, strong, factual, dynamic environment.

      Sure, there will always be polluters, but their rating will be lowered the more they pollute, and given a decent rating system (not exactly Slashdot, but it's a good start), the polluters can never do as much damage as they would like, so they tend to stop polluting (or go somewhere else where it's easier to, like perhaps ZDNet).

      I guess my point is: it would be more beneficial for everyone involved if information was more easily accessible. I'm reading a book on Lisp right now, and it describes the difference between Lisp and other traditional programming languages like this: imagine you're having a conversation by letter. Then, imagine the person is in the same room as you. Not only will you have faster turnaround time, you will have a different type of conversation than you would have had by post.

      So, sure, there'll be some people who prefer to prop up their fantasy worlds and will neglect to seek out confirmation of beliefs presented to them. But there will always be those people. Having the ability to immediately refute statistics is a net benefit for everyone.

      And, will I believe the statistics? It depends on where I get them from. The CIA World Factbook has a great deal of information about foreign countries' populations, GDP, telephone/TV/cellphone coverage, etc. I would tend to believe those statistics. Something on geocities would obviously need to be verified.

      And I don't agree with your conclusion, that politicians will stop lying and only misrepresent statistics. With this system in place, they won't be able to misrepresent statistics because not only the host, but every viewer will be able to immediately look up the right data. And not actually the host, since the host will be sitting there talking; but the host's support network will include real-time fact checkers, with a direct line to the host's earpiece.

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    126. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      No, it is not wrong to ridicule Christianity. Even if one grants that your god exists as described, the idea that one should worship him is ridiculous! I mean, really, your god is a dickhead. All powerful, loves all his "children"...lets them suffer the tortures of the damned before damning them.

      But you can spell, and that makes you above average, so for tomorrow I'll refrain from ridiculing Christianity.

  2. What can I say but... by Psychor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hit the road, Jack.

    1. Re:What can I say but... by colmore · · Score: 5, Funny

      and don't you come back, no. -- Moore.

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    2. Re:What can I say but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OR... "What can you do with a drunken sailor?"

      "What can we do to annoy Jack Thompson?
      What can we do to annoy Jack Thompson?
      What can we do to annoy Jack Thompson?
      Early in the morning?"

      "Make him pay for GTA mods..."

      "Throw him off his lawsuit..."

    3. Re:What can I say but... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Gnome or gnome or gnome or..

  3. Hmm by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 2, Funny

    Any chance we can, as Red from The Shawshank Redemption so eloquently put "have him do the airdance before the first May flowers push up out the ground?"

  4. Maybe the judge saw his book on Amazon by ishmalius · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would inspire the typical "Who the hell IS this guy?" response.

  5. Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 4, Funny

    This isn't the same as him being barred from practicing law PERIOD, but I just couldn't help myself...

    *plays Final Fantasy IV victory fanfare and dances*

    --
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    1. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by RiotNrrd · · Score: 1

      Just wait dude.

      He's got enough rope and it looks like he can't tie that noose fast enough.

    2. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just wait. A lawyer friend of mine says that this order will be submitted to the Florida Bar, which is currently investigating his behaviour, and it WILL be used as evidence against him. Especially the bits about him violating the judge's order, and his spamming the judge and the opposing counsel with press releases and long paranoid diatribes.

      I've read some of the emails that he's sent out. Did you know that his wife got some sample packet of vaginal lubricant in the mail, and he uses that as evidence that Blank Rome (the opposing law firm), the judge, and the Republican Party are all out to get him? Fascinating stuff.

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    3. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Nah, not likely. A suspension _maybe_, but AFAIK he hasn't done anything serious enough to warrant losing his license permanently.

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    4. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I hear some places will toss your license for being a bona fide asshat.

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    5. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait, he thinks the Republican Party is out to get him? I thought he pandered to the neo-con Republicans with his Marguerite Perrin-style nonsensical raving.

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    6. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by ptomblin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't look for consistency in the ravings of Jack. He also blames a lot of stuff on Clinton.

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    7. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a sick way, I'll miss Jack when he's gone. I mean, reading all those E-mails of him just flying off the deep end, his verbal diarrhea on TV, and getting one-up'd by 14-year-olds filled my days with a great deal of amusement.

      If Jack Thompson has done one thing for gamers it's made them laugh. He truly is the Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf of the videogame world.

      --
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    8. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by CaymanIslandCarpedie · · Score: 1

      Are we still talking about lawyers here? I'd always thought being an asshat, was a prerequisite for that profession?

      --
      "reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert
    9. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by Generic+Guy · · Score: 1
      If Jack Thompson has done one thing for gamers

      More importantly if anything, he's certainly helped defuse the "gaming is bad" timebombs going off around the country. With the various State unconstitutional bans on games (sad to say, my home state of Michigan is one of them) and the accompanying rabid political feeding frenzy, hopefully Jack's antics will poke in the eye those trying to use this as a political platform and bring some common sense back to the masses.

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    10. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 1

      Reptilian, perhaps, but not an asshat.

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    11. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      You were almost right:

      he uses that as evidence that Blank Rome (the opposing law firm), the judge, and the Republican Party are all out to get him some wifely lovin' so he'd shut up and go back to his day job?

      --
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    12. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Er, banned? I thought there was just mandatory labeling and ID checks? That's hardly the same as a ban. It might have the effect of decreasing sales (not likely), but people under 18 just don't have the same rights as everyone else. If there's a problem, that's where it lies -- in the double message we send to our youth. "You're not responsible enough to make your own decisions, but if you make the wrong choice, we'll try you as an adult. You can die for your country, buy guns, and operate deadly machinery (vehicles) before you can drink a beer. And despite all of that, if you commit a crime we'll probably try you as an adult if you're over the age of 12."

      This country would be a lot more interesting if we lowered the voting age to 15 or 16.

    13. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      AFAIK he hasn't done anything serious enough to warrant losing his license permanently.

      What the hell does he have to do? Attack the opposing counsel in open court?

      --
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    14. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      That could do it. Usually though, you get disbarred if you steal money from clients. It's a pretty serious punishment, so it isn't used lightly. Off the top of my head, it's kind of similar to getting banned from baseball. It totally ends your career, and tends to make it difficult to start from scratch elsewhere.

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    15. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by BKX · · Score: 1

      Its not mandatory labeling and ID checks (at least in Michigan's case). Its much more insidious. It makes it a crime to distribute "ultra-violent" games to minors under 17 (not 18, FYI). The main problem here is not the ID check but what constitutes "ultra-violent". The definition in Michigan's law is somewhat vague and while it certainly includes rated-M games, it may also include many rated-T games and a load of unrateds. It could even be construed to include a number of rated-E and rated-E10 games, as well (we're talking games like Super Mario Bros.); its that vague. Furthermore, the law makes it a crime to allow minors under 17 to even see OTHER people play the games. It also doesn't provide for the rating system to be used as a defense and doesn't require games to be labeled. This law would have a chilling effect on the gaming industry by making it very difficult to sell games in a place where minors frequent. Places like Meijer, Walmart, Target, etc would probably stop carrying games altogether rather than try to figure out which games are "ultra-violent" and which aren't. That's why this law is a problem.

    16. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by alienw · · Score: 1

      You can die for your country, buy guns, and operate deadly machinery (vehicles) before you can drink a beer

      Unfortunately, people of college age are generally not responsible enough to have both the privilege of drinking beer and operating deadly machinery, because they are rather prone to do both at the same time.

    17. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So I guess signin' him up for condom of the month is not a real good ideer?

      It's getting terrible when you're accused of giving lawyers a bad name. This guy seems to be able to do that though ...

    18. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by themassiah · · Score: 1

      That women is now a LEGEND. I have a capture of both episodes of that on my webserver and it's one of the most gobbled-up peices I've shared over the Internet.

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    19. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Did you know that his wife got some sample packet of vaginal lubricant in the mail,"

      Since she didn't try out said packet, it seems like everybody is out to get him except for his wife. Is Jack an honorary Slashdotter?

  6. Jack needs to... by Chickenofbristol55 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...chill out- dude try playing some violent video games, gets all that anger out of you. I like the part in San Andreas were you screw your girlfriend, ever hear about that?

    Oh, crap...

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    1. Re:Jack needs to... by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 2, Funny

      You must have been a really bad date, I got coffee too.

    2. Re:Jack needs to... by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 0, Redundant

      ...I got coffee too.

      Was that "hot coffee?" 8)

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    3. Re:Jack needs to... by alex4u2nv · · Score: 0

      "screw your girlfriend..."
      In other news, Video Games stores around the world were slashdotted, with GTA San Andreas being sold out.

  7. OH NOES!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The self-important asshat got tossed out. But don't worry Jack fans, he still has a fight to fight: AMAZON!!!!!

    Gezz can't someone please buy this guy a clue and docs to show him how to use it??

  8. Judge Moore FTW by jlavarj · · Score: 5, Funny

    GM Judge Moore banned Jack Thompson from the Alabama realm of the controversial MMORPG "Reality" today. The game "Reality" allows players to engage in such controversial activities as genocide, murder, theft, and mis-representation.

    1. Re:Judge Moore FTW by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 2, Funny

      however, it also allows (and encourages, to an extent) being nice!

    2. Re:Judge Moore FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an intellectual abortion.

    3. Re:Judge Moore FTW by E-Rock · · Score: 1

      Man, I wish my server had that mod. :)

    4. Re:Judge Moore FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      [The game "Reality"] also allows (and encourages, to an extent) being nice!

      "And on these grounds we request the court to prohibit the sale of this game to minors. We must not allow any circumstance where an impressionable child can play this game."

      "Won't someone think of the children..."

  9. Quite the role model that Jack Thompson is by dtfinch · · Score: 1

    Fighting day after day to defend impressionable children from inappropriate, uh, role models.

  10. Don'cha come back no more... by Hobbes897 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leave it to Jack Thompson to get kicked out of Alabama for improper behavior.

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    1. Re:Don'cha come back no more... by DaFallus · · Score: 1

      I know whe all thought he bailed the case...

      ...Thompson received, at his home address, a tube of vaginal lubricant, courtesy he feels, of Rockstar.

      After that you'd think he'd be a bit more easy-going...

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    2. Re:Don'cha come back no more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Thompson received, at his home address, a tube of vaginal lubricant, courtesy he feels, of Rockstar.

      Naw... if it was really from Rockstar, I think they would have had the insight to send him anal instead of vaginal lubricant. Clearly, it came from a formerly gruntled past client of Jack's... [-;

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    3. Re:Don'cha come back no more... by zeke2.0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, a facist getting kicked out by the most facist state in the USA. What Irony.

  11. So... by RoadDogTy · · Score: 1

    If video games about killing cause kids to go out and kill people, how long would it take someone to whip up an FPS where all the baddies are Jack Thompson?

    1. Re:So... by Braino420 · · Score: 1
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  12. insert quote... by 10am-bedtime · · Score: 1

    about the south suffering from something other than the prevalance of fried food, here.

    ugh, lawyers and their ways...

  13. Advertisement. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I love how while reading about this on the main page, there was a giant GTA banner beside this story.

  14. Judge Moore by alienmole · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article mentions Judge Moore, and this is Alabama. Is this the same Judge Moore that was removed from office for refusing to get rid of his statue of the ten commandments? If so, I say his sanction of Jack Thompson is obviously correct. It takes one (wacko) to know one.

    1. Re:Judge Moore by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      That’s what I was trying to find out, too. Unfortunately, IGN has not yet upgraded their content management system to include that little feature where random web surfers can read articles posted on their site. But if Thompson just got bounced by Roy Moore for being an over-the-top nutjob, well, I don’t know quite what to feel. But it certainly would put an interesting spin on things.

      However, I honestly don’t remember... was Judge Moore ever reinstated? And if so, why?

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    2. Re:Judge Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm afraid not - This one is James Moore, and the other wacko is Roy Moore.

    3. Re:Judge Moore by Otter · · Score: 5, Informative

      That was my first thought, but, no -- this is Fayette County Circuit Judge James Moore, not Supreme Court Chief justice Roy Moore.

    4. Re:Judge Moore by lelitsch · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, Jack got tossed by Fayette County Circuit Judge James Moore. The Ten Commandment case centered around Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore. Roy got removed from office in November 2003 Alabama's judicial ethics panel for his conduct in that case, by the way.

    5. Re:Judge Moore by ProZachar · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's former Chief Justice of Alabama, thank you very much. They threw his ass out a while ago.

    6. Re:Judge Moore by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Roy Moore was not reinstated, but has remained on the media circuit, and has announced his intentions to run for governor in 2006 against incumbent Gov. Bob Riley. Because both are Republicans, they'll be facing off in the summer primary.

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    7. Re:Judge Moore by alienmole · · Score: 1
      Roy Moore was not reinstated, but has remained on the media circuit, and has announced his intentions to run for governor in 2006 against incumbent Gov. Bob Riley.

      I like the story here:

      "As Republican strategists weigh the party's prospects for 2006 and 2008, they are increasingly worried about a political confrontation with Roy S. Moore, the former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court who became a hero to religious conservatives when he refused to follow a federal court order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the state's judicial building. Moore, a Republican who enjoys widespread support in his home state, is poised to run against a vulnerable Republican governor. If he wins, some party strategists speculate, he could defy a federal court order again by erecting a religious monument outside the Alabama State Capitol building. With the 2008 presidential race looming, President Bush would then face a no-win decision: either call out the National Guard to enforce a court order against a religious display on state grounds or allow a fellow born-again Christian to defy the courts."
    8. Re:Judge Moore by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      You know, that bit about Bush doesn't make any sense. This is his second term -- he's a lame duck, and can't be re-elected, so what does he care?

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    9. Re:Judge Moore by alienmole · · Score: 1

      Bush and the rest of his cabal care about getting a Republican president in his place, so right before a Presidential election, they don't want to have to choose between scaring moderate swing voters and upsetting their religious base.

    10. Re:Judge Moore by dbIII · · Score: 1

      There's more than one Moore in the law - and there's always room for one more Moore.

    11. Re:Judge Moore by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1
      That's former Chief Justice of Alabama, thank you very much. They threw his ass out a while ago.

      Uh huh. That's future Governor Roy Moore, and likely future Gadfly in the 2008 or 2012 presidential campaigns. The guy's got a bright future. Haven't you heard? It pays to pander. The politician and party who best leverages "stupid" wins.

      And even if he's soundly defeated, he'll have a long and lucrative career on the red state stump speech circuit. Look up Ollie North, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc.

    12. Re:Judge Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I assume you meant "the other one is Roy Moore, who is a wacko." Or did you mean James Moore is also a wacko?

  15. Asshattery by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Thompson was effectively thrown off the case for actions "before this Court [that] suggest that he is unable to conduct himself in a manner befitting practice in this state." Furthermore, Moore has referred Thompson's conduct to Disciplinary Commission of the Alabama Bar for "appropriate action."
    That's from the article, but the rest of the Court's statememnt goes on to blast Jack for being an asshat and making wild claims.

    In a prime example of karma, the defense submitted some of Thompson's own press releases to the Court as evidence of why he was unfit.
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    1. Re:Asshattery by southpolesammy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'm actually worried about Jack Thompson's mental fitness. As I mentioned in a previous posting a few weeks ago, I think he may very well be a psychopath (not joking here...this is a very big problem). Look at the DSM-IV-TR criteria:

      1. Failure to conform to social norms
      2. Deceitfulness
      3. Impulsivity
      4. Irritability or aggressiveness
      5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
      6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
      7. Lack of remorse

      Satisfying three or more of these criteria warrants a diagnosis of psychopathy or sociopathy. Jack's in trouble, but until he's looked at, so are we.
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    2. Re:Asshattery by Reducer2001 · · Score: 1

      I fit numbers 1 and 3, am I a psychopath too?

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    3. Re:Asshattery by PaganRitual · · Score: 2, Funny

      I visibily out loud sang to a cranked Jump by Van Halen in my car on the way to work this morning, so guess you can mark me down for number 1.

      I'm going to lie and say that I don't fit number 7, so I guess that means you can mark me down for number 2.

      3 is definitely a concern - "ooh, cheap game, *purchase'd*"

      hmm that ALSO affects no. 6 ... "now I have no money to pay off my internet bill"

      My job as an accounting software programmer is slowly killing me, so number 5 looks to be a good one. I may very well drag myself into work when I'm nearly dead and shoot up the place, so that has to further my cause for number 5.

      I don't fit number 7.

      So yeah, I think I've got them all covered. But I'm not a fucking psychopath, and I you even suggest it again, I WILL KILL YOU.

    4. Re:Asshattery by ldspartan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Aww, why you gotta go and do that? Look how many people you've confused with your DSM quoting.

      Look folks, there's a reason psychologists go to school for many, many years and get to prescribe drugs and such. Reading the DSM-IV-TR (or the IV, or the III-R, or the III, etc.) doesn't equip you to make meaningful decisions about anyone's mental health, much less your own.

      Remember kids, undergraduate psych exists for one reason: to give the undergrads something to talk about after class.

      And yes, I have an undergraduate psychology degree :)

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    5. Re:Asshattery by jafac · · Score: 1

      You're scaring me.

      Because all 7 points perfectly describe each and every member of the Bush Administration.

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    6. Re:Asshattery by DarkSarin · · Score: 0

      Since you have an undergrad in psych, let me ask this:

      In how many states can a PhD psychologist prescribe psychotropic (or any other) medicines?

      Answer? One. That is Arizona. In ALL other states you must be a psychiatrist OR MD. FWIW a psychiatrist is an MD with a few classes in psychology.

      This is one of the downfalls of Clinical Psychology in general; they are the MOST qualified to diagnose and treat any mental disorder (as a group), but they are also unable, generally, to prescribe some of the medicines that might help the most in need (schizophrenics etc).

      As for an MD who prescribes psychotropics or anti-depressants without first referring to a psychologist? Unethical, immoral and stupid. Probably greedy too.

      My degree? As of December I will have my MS in Applied Psychology (I-O). I am still working for my PhD. In my Personality class we covered DSM stuff (again) today, but I also worked for a year in a Residential Treatment Facility (mostly schizoid types).

      I do agree with you on one point, though. The DSM-IV-TR is NOT for general use by non-professionals. I would be extremely hesitant to make a firm diagnosis on anyone for any Axis I or Axis II disorders. The ONLY axis on which I feel fully qualified to make a firm diagnosis is Axis V, which is the Global Assessment of Functioning.

      To the person who originally quoted the DSM--please stop. I agree that Jack Thompson is a complete jerk (this is my opinion). I will further give my opinion that he is a moron, media-whoring twat with no useful contributions for society. That said, however, it HIGHLY irresponsible to go around labeling ANYONE with mental disorders from the DSM. I propose a new acronym to help prevent this: IANAP. If you can't figure this out, please get help.

      Oh, and for the record, the following are required for a diagnosis as well:
      The problems MUST BE:
      -syndrome or pattern
      -within an individual
      -not culturally sactioned responses
      -not primarily a conflict between person & culture OR person & authorities

      -MUST cause 1 of 3 possible problems:
          -distress to person
          -impairment in work, school, or social functioning
          -increased risk of death disability or impairment or important loss of freedom [such as being more likely to end up in jail]

      MOST of the disorders have very specific onset ages listed, minimum time periods for affliction and very specific comments about typical behaviors that might be involved.

      Please, be more responsible folks.

      FWIW, IANA Clinical Psychologist. But I am well-enough trained to know that I don't want to be one, and I shouldn't play at being one.

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    7. Re:Asshattery by khallow · · Score: 1
      To the person who originally quoted the DSM--please stop. I agree that Jack Thompson is a complete jerk (this is my opinion). I will further give my opinion that he is a moron, media-whoring twat with no useful contributions for society. That said, however, it HIGHLY irresponsible to go around labeling ANYONE with mental disorders from the DSM. I propose a new acronym to help prevent this: IANAP. If you can't figure this out, please get help.

      "HIGHLY irresponsible"? I know it is, but I get the feeling you're upset more at the misuse of the DRM rather than the blatant ad hominem attack that employed it. It's not that sacred nor should it be.

    8. Re:Asshattery by Terminal+Saint · · Score: 1

      I've wondered myself if he suffers for psychosis of some kind, but my understanding is (no source) he was once ordered to take a psych evaluation and somehow managed to pass.

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    9. Re:Asshattery by po8 · · Score: 1

      Nope. You need to meet at least 3 of the criteria to even score marginally.

    10. Re:Asshattery by DarkSarin · · Score: 0

      I don't particularly care for Mr. Thompson, but yes, I am upset about the misuse of the DSM (get it right). Not that it is sacred, but that by quoting from it, the poster gained an air of authority that was wholly unwarranted.

      It also gave the very mistaken impression that one could self-diagnose or that a non-professional should be able to use the DSM to make a diagnosis about someone that they do not know. This is why it is irresponsible. Furthermore this opens up the possibility (although remote) of someone saying, "crap, I have three of those symptoms, I must by psychotic!" and then doing something quite foolish like taking their life or the life of another. Remote? Certainly, but if this were depression or a mental disorder like schizophrenia, it is much more likely. I've seen it happen. It is extremely sad.

      The moral is not that the DSM is sacred, but that it is foolish to go around tossing of authoritative looking diagnoses of mental disorders.

      Attacks on Mr. Thompson are also rather pointless, but they are not nearly as irresponsible as using the DSM in the fashion seen.

      Sorry, but I don't think your point is valid: you say that I think that the DSM is sacred. I don't think that. I do think that it shouldn't be used by someone with no training or to make a public statement about someone's mental state. I would say the same about using the PDR (Physician's Desk Reference) to fill prescriptions. Just not a good idea.

      HAND.

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    11. Re:Asshattery by Fex303 · · Score: 1
      Since you have an undergrad in psych, let me ask this:

      In how many states can a PhD psychologist prescribe psychotropic (or any other) medicines?

      In my country (Australia): None.

      I consider a major problem with our mental health system (which is still pretty good compared to many places around the world, including the US). Why did you ask about that, though? It seems like a non-sequiter. FWIW, I agree with everything you've said.

    12. Re:Asshattery by Tobias.Davis · · Score: 1, Funny
      Thanks! You just just helped me realize what's wrong with my wife.


      I hope she's not monitoring my computer tonight, she might kill me

    13. Re:Asshattery by SewersOfRivendell · · Score: 1

      Hmm... Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and even George W. Bush fit that profile to a T. I wonder if Jack Thompson is a Republican.

      See also http://members.cruzio.com/~zdino/writings/mentalHe althOfGWBush.htm

    14. Re:Asshattery by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Since posting a reply without reading the post (it takes 3 factors, not 2) is prettty aggressive, I guess you do meet the requirements and you are indeed a psycho

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    15. Re:Asshattery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, it's not aggressive, just impulsive (which was one of the two he self-identified). Actually he not only self-identified it, but proved it. Also by nature of this forum he also pretty much proved 1 (about social norms). I'd look through his posting history to try to prove your aggressive count...

    16. Re:Asshattery by khallow · · Score: 1
      I don't particularly care for Mr. Thompson, but yes, I am upset about the misuse of the DSM (get it right). Not that it is sacred, but that by quoting from it, the poster gained an air of authority that was wholly unwarranted.

      Ok, that makes sense. Complaint withdrawn.

    17. Re:Asshattery by ldspartan · · Score: 1

      In how many states can a PhD psychologist prescribe psychotropic (or any other) medicines?

      Answer? One. That is Arizona. In ALL other states you must be a psychiatrist OR MD. FWIW a psychiatrist is an MD with a few classes in psychology.

      This is one of the downfalls of Clinical Psychology in general; they are the MOST qualified to diagnose and treat any mental disorder (as a group), but they are also unable, generally, to prescribe some of the medicines that might help the most in need (schizophrenics etc).


      Agreed that this is a problem, but do you know of many instances where it has actually been an impediment to care? My undergrad psych degree is but a toy; I'm a software engineer by profession and training. I do have a bunch of varied mental-health-professional relatives, and I've never heard a complaint of the treatment process being impaired by the rules surrounding prescribing meds, they all simply work with a psychiatrist.

      What I have heard is a lot of complaints about HMOs and the restrictions they put on time spent in session.

  16. Woah by Xshare · · Score: 0, Redundant

    New acheivement. Thompson got kicked out of court by the guy who put a couple tons of Ten Commandments in the court.

    sweet...

    1. Re:Woah by wk633 · · Score: 3, Informative
  17. I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode..... by 8127972 · · Score: 1

    .......where the CSI team has to find the killer of a outspoken anti violent video game crusader who angered a group of geeks with his irational activities.

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  18. A Judge has revoked your license to practice law.. by Spad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you:

    a) Accept their judgement with good grace
    b) Grudgingly accept the judgement but state that you believe it to be in error
    c) Accuse the judge of breaking the law, of being biased against your clients and of generally being incompetant

    If you're Jack Thompson you probably also do d) File a lawsuit against the judge for dismissing you.

  19. Information about Jack Thompson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the many who didn't care before and who won't care afterwards..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorn ey)

    Just another lawyer who might have been on TV too much...

    1. Re:Information about Jack Thompson by F_Scentura · · Score: 1

      Wow, "Thompson has sent his own letter to the FBA, reminding the FBA that the last time he was investigated they had to pay him damages."

      the mind boggles as to how he can get away with any of this.

    2. Re:Information about Jack Thompson by qsqueeq · · Score: 1

      So he's a liar too?
      *gasp*

  20. He really needs..... by 8127972 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..... a cup of hot coffee to help him calm down.

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  21. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by Chickenofbristol55 · · Score: 4, Funny

    System.out.print ("and don't you come back... no more... no more... no more... no more.");

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  22. Ray Reiser? by MobileC · · Score: 1

    So do we boycott the Reiser file system now?

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  23. What A Dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Thompson fired back at Judge Moore by claiming the the judge has 'has violated... The Alabama Canons of Judicial Ethics by his unfortunate, improper, and prejudicial acts in this case, at the expense of three bereaved Alabama families.'"
    Myabe he'll be slapped with contempt of court.
  24. modders by penguin-collective · · Score: 1

    Where is the Doom 3 "Jack Thompson" mod? I think Thompson would be perfectly cast as an evil Nazi zombie.

    1. Re:modders by DA-MAN · · Score: 1

      Gestapo!

      Mien Lieben!!!

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  25. Jack Thompson is a lawyer by typical · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can anyone explain who this guy is?

    I don't think that the parent post is necessarily a troll. If you haven't been following the gaming press or reading Slashdot every day, he's not that hard to be unaware of. My mother certainly doesn't know who he is.

    Jack Thompson is a lawyer who, for one reason or another, has attempted to attack violent games in the media.

    It's actually getting to be very hard to obtain any accurate, netural information on him at all -- so many of the people online play video games and are scared of what they think that he might push through that almost all information is biased -- the Wikipedia article on him is definitely not particularly neutral, and the gaming press dislikes him for obvious reasons.

    Combine that with the fact that the man is a political conservative and a Christian (pretty obvious from his website) and given to rather inaccurate rhetoric, and you basically wind up with every article or online writing about him becoming a flamefest.

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    1. Re:Jack Thompson is a lawyer by typical · · Score: 1

      Sorry. I linked to the WP article twice instead of to Thompson's homepage. Here's the proper link.

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    2. Re:Jack Thompson is a lawyer by plonk420 · · Score: 1

      the only problem is that although some of his intentions are good (not all of them, however...they seem a bit censory/quashing of free "speech"/expression/art/etc), he is very (electronically) vocal, and rather than countering with even just mindboggling legalese, he repostes usually with snide responses or juvenile insults rather than something half intellectual. some of the responses border on the nonsensical timecube author's responses and ramblings.

    3. Re:Jack Thompson is a lawyer by Tuross · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Combine that with the fact that the man is a ... Christian (pretty obvious from his website)

      Strange, I didn't realise the definition of a Christian was based solely on the appearance of one's website. But of course, you read it on the internet so it must be true!

      John 13:35 (MSG) "This is how everyone will recognize that you are my disciples--when they see the love you have for each other."

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  26. Karma? Stupidity? by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 2

    Either way: Just desserts.

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  27. As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that Slashdot didn't jump on this when GameSpot covered it... 4 days ago.

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    1. Re:As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you seen this 4 days ago, why didn't you submit it to Slashdot?

    2. Re:As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Gamespot doesn't pay for stories like other sites/posters

    3. Re:As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by robogymnast · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm surprised that Slashdot didn't jump on this when GameSpot covered it... 4 days ago.

      Yeah, but we are gonna see it twice!

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    4. Re:As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by NuShrike · · Score: 1

      It probably got rejected because it wasn't a dupe.

  28. I take back... by Billosaur · · Score: 1

    ...any bad thing I may have ever said about Alabama.

    And now Jack can go home, sulk, and concentrate on suing Amazon for all the mean things people said about him.

    .
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  29. Jack Thompson replaced by Hunter Thompson by hosecoat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jack Thompsons incorrigible behavior, his mumbling incoherence, his fishing hats, aviator frames and cigarette holders have cause him to be tossed out of court only to be replaced by Hunter S. Thompson

    1. Re:Jack Thompson replaced by Hunter Thompson by jcr · · Score: 1, Troll

      I'm sure that Thompson could do a better job of arguing a case. (Yes, I know he's dead.)

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Jack Thompson replaced by Hunter Thompson by Sirch · · Score: 1

      Johnny Depp called, he wants his cannon back...

      What? Too soon? Oh, of course, it's not been 22.3 years...

      I'll get my coat.

  30. headline for 11-23-05 by phlegmofdiscontent · · Score: 1

    Jack Thompson Sues Alabama

  31. In related news... what about the CSI episode? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    remember CSI episode with the GTA-like videogame? I don't live in the US, so I wanted to know if any of you guys watched it. Was it good, bad?

    1. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by hublan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Was it good, bad?

      Dude. It was CSI. It was bad.

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    2. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was really bad. One line in it [paraphrasing from memory]

      "I'm not like that type [talking about murdering others], I'm not a gamer!"

      It basically played on all the latest buzzwords and press. I know it's supposed to be fictional but they're clearly playing off recent events in the news and the least they could do is not show something as ridiculous as that.

      They might as well have a story line [or a thousand] where some robe wearing muslim is planning to blow up an office complex or something :-)

      Tom

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    3. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by jackbower · · Score: 1

      Killer Instinct had an episode with the same idea. Gamer built mods that put things into the game that the developers didn't think about then when they got banned from playing the game, one of them started playing it in real life. Gotta love how they can all come up with unique ideas for their shows.

    4. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that on 24?

    5. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by saskboy · · Score: 1

      Here's my review of the show:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168937&cid=140 87823

      If you thought of downloading it, don't bother, it was lame.

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    6. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by saskboy · · Score: 1

      Why couldn't they have ripped off a less violent game and made the same point?

      They could have had two rogue plumbers that go racing through a sewer, squashing mushrooms, until they get to a castle and rescue the princess or other blonde actress. Because you just know that it's going to happen now that there've been video games made about that!

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    7. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "They might as well have a story line [or a thousand] where some robe wearing muslim is planning to blow up an office complex or something :-)"

      That wouldn't fly because, unlike gamers, Muslims/Arabs/etc. have organized groups that make noise on all the news outlets when this sort of thing happens. What do we have, Gabe & Tycho?

  32. Next up... by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jack Thompson will soon issue a "prize" of $10,000 for somebody to code a game in which Judge Moore is flogged then killed violently. Then he'll tell Judge Moore it was meant as satire.

    1. Re:Next up... by Maxim+Kovalenko · · Score: 1

      I just hope somebody else other than Gabe and Tycho pick up the $10,000 tab on that one.;)

  33. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

    Captain: What you say!!

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  34. Backup theory by alienmole · · Score: 1

    I thought Judge Roy might have quietly gotten reinstated as an ordinary judge in the meantime, after the media fuss had died down. My backup theory is that having two Judge Moores in Alabama can mean only one thing, the explanation for which can be found in the entry for Alabama on this page.

  35. You have got to be kidding! I call shenanigans! by Mille+Mots · · Score: 1
    Are you seriously trying to convince the entire /. community that

    ...wait for it...

    ...here it comes...

    You Don't Know Jack?

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  36. Can we... by fallen1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    get a link that DOESN'T include frigging flash ads as part of the deal? My system as set up will not continue on to the article itself and, yeah, some of us actually RTFA ;-)

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    1. Re:Can we... by Zerathdune · · Score: 1
      unfortuneately not, if you're dealing with IGN, although I didn't get an ad first, but hey. anyway, here's the text of the article:

      Jack Thompson's Alabama License Revoked
      Controversial attorney thrown off of GTA lawsuit.
      by Wade Steel

      November 21, 2005 - Controversial Miami-based attorney Jack Thompson has been removed from a lawsuit filed by the families of two slain police officers and a police dispatcher against Sony, Rockstar Games, and game retailers. Furthermore, the judge in the case revoked Thompson's license to practice law in the state of Alabama citing Thompson's behavior as the cause of the sanction.

      In our previous coverage of the trial, we reported that Thompson had voluntarily withdrawn from the case because he felt that the "other side [meaning the trial defendents] wants to make me the issue." However, Judge Moore, the case's presiding jurist, issued a stinging 18-page report in which the judge rejected Thompson's claim of voluntary removal and stated that Thompson was effectively thrown off the case for actions "before this Court [that] suggest that he is unable to conduct himself in a manner befitting practice in this state." Furthermore, Moore has referred Thompson's conduct to Disciplinary Commission of the Alabama Bar for "appropriate action." Such actions could potentially include complete permanent disbarrment from the practice of law in the state of Alabama.

      The removal of Thompson from the case does not necessarily represent the end of the trial, as his long-time associate Ray Reiser will assume the role of lead counsel for the case's plaintiffs.

      Not one to take such things lying down, Thompson fired back at Judge Moore by claiming the the judge "has violated... The Alabama Canons of Judicial Ethics by his unfortunate, improper, and prejudicial acts in this case, at the expense of three bereaved Alabama families."

      We will continue to keep you informed on the status of this case as developments warrant.

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    2. Re:Can we... by Hosiah · · Score: 1

      What *I* do is, cut 'n' paste the URL to the console and browse it in lynx - no pictures at all, guaranteed, just scrolling text. I'm still waiting for the Firefox plugin that does this automagically.

  37. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by ral315 · · Score: 1

    Funnily enough, last night's episode involved some gamers who were competing in a real-life game that involved them killing innocent people. No anti-gaming crusader dead, though.

  38. Blame Jack's Church by BigBuckHunter · · Score: 1

    We should probably lobby to make it a crime for Jack's church to preach to people under the age of 18, since it obviously causes deviant behavior in adulthood. This church's "social conditioning" seemingly teaches children that suing people you don't like, insulting judges, teaching religion in science class, and general ass-hattery are OK in the modern world. We need to "protect the children" from this sort of de-sensitization "abuse".Parents also need to be hold accountable when they volunterily relinquish control of their teenagers to this "inhumane" religious institution. The punishment bieng life "in Alabama".

    Making my own attempt at sarcastic ass-hattery
    BBH

    1. Re:Blame Jack's Church by HappyDrgn · · Score: 1

      Will "ass-hattery" be cited in the final petition text? If so sign me up!

  39. Re:Can we... WHOOPS! by fallen1 · · Score: 1

    Nevermind. Here you go everyone: IGN link with no frigging ads

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  40. Watch out... by jZnat · · Score: 1

    So they say they're replacing Thompson with Reiser. I thought they were trying to bring in someone who'd act like a professional...

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  41. Let that be a lesson to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What you thought was "I don't like this person, or his views, so he is therefore a member of the political party I disagree with."

    faulty logic, but I see it everywhere

    1. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, you could just face it: the Republicans want a nanny state just as much as the Democrats, and both parties suck shit through a straw.

      No faulty logic needed.

    2. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by sc0ttyb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Normally I don't reply to AC's, but I'll bite.

      You're right. I don't like him at all, but did you notice I said "neo-con"? Surely you've noticed the theocratic tilt the Republican party has taken. Jack just fits in with this Bible-thumping, alarmist majority, and yes, that angers me. And no, I'm not a Democrat, either, though now even they are starting to pander to religious groups.

      Lesson my ass.

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    3. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by Zordak · · Score: 2, Informative
      even they are starting to pander to religious groups.
      Funny thing, that. You are a politician in a country where the vast majority of the people at least casually believe in some kind of God, and you find that you have to pretend that you represent their views if you want them to keep electing you. It's representative government, and it's the worst form of government on Earth, except all the others.
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    4. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by teknomage1 · · Score: 1

      Funny thing, that. You are a politician in a country where the vast majority of the people at least casually believe in some kind of God, and you find that you have to pretend that you represent their views if you want them to keep electing you. It's representative government, and it's the worst form of government on Earth, except all the others.

      Technology is making direct democracy a lot more feasible these days. Might be a fun social experiment somewhere with an educated populace. ... Oh damn it! Where will I find one of those.

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    5. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Normally I don't reply to AC's, but I'll bite.

      You're equally anonymous. I don't know your real name or where you live.
  42. Obligatory Nelson by javaxman · · Score: 1

    (pointing) HA HA!

  43. He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny
    Combine that with the fact that the man is a political conservative and a Christian

    <baptist class="southern" politics="conservative">
    Just so we're all clear on this, please do not infer that his chosen affiliation with various political or religious groups means those groups want anything to do with him.

    I look forward to the upcoming religious holiday, visiting the church of my youth, and logging some serious GTA:SA time. And while we're at it, the Kansas School Board can kiss my evolved butt.
    </baptist>

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    1. Re:He ain't one of us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Religious holiday? Ah...the one in December. Surely you don't mean our good ol' secular, created by the US Gubbamint Thanksgiving.

      *grin*

    2. Re:He ain't one of us by spazimodo · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Heh that's like being a pro-abortion anti-pope Catholic. Good luck with that whole burning damnation thing. Here's what your people seem to think about GTA:

      From everyone's favorite Christian news source, Agape Press (why do i always think of the goatse man when I read their name?)
      ...In the aftermath of the controversy over hidden codes in the video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" that can unlock sexual content, members of both the U.S. House and Senate have asked the Federal Trade Commission for an investigation. That development pleases a California congressman who has long been a watchdog of the industry. Leland Yee says he welcomes the help of legislators that have already been concerned -- and those whose names have surfaced recently, such as Senator Hillary Clinton -- because the point of everyone's concern is the children who are affected by the video games. "Our children are extremely fragile, and they are in fact our future -- and if we don't protect them, as a society, then there's not much of a future to look forward to," the lawmaker asserts. Yee says the reason for concern -- the reliability of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) -- is crucial to parents. He says it is clear that the developers of "Grand Theft Auto" intentionally denied the truth about their placement of hidden codes in the game -- and that is why he says Senator Clinton's request, backed by an overwhelming 355-21 vote in the House of Representatives favoring the investigation as well, is totally appropriate. "You have to ask the question: what is the [rating system] for anymore," Yee says. "And if we can't rely on them, then we really need to look at some other alternative." He explains that Senator Clinton has asked the FTC to review the entire rating system, and to determine "whether or not [the rating system] can in fact protect our children." [Ed Thomas]
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    3. Re:He ain't one of us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Surely you don't mean our good ol' secular, created by the US Gubbamint Thanksgiving.

      I think he means the good ol' religious, created by the Pilgrims Thanksgiving. Who did you think they were giving thanks to - Congress? :-)

    4. Re:He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Here's what your people seem to think

      Who are "my people"? Interestingly, I'd never heard of Agape Press until you mentioned them.

      Again, you have the unwarranted presumption that the words of one group speak for another group only tangentially related. Marilyn Manson is a professed atheist. He's said a lot of goofy things over the years, but I don't feel the need to use his song lyrics to "prove" that all atheists are drug-obsessed nihilists.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    5. Re:He ain't one of us by spazimodo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Uh, your people are Southern Baptists (remember, you started your post by mentioning that?) saying "I'm a southern Baptist, but I subscribe to evolution theory, and play violent video games" is a little like saying "I'm a vegetarian, except I eat veal and enjoy biting off the occasional live chicken head."

      Membership is by definition subscribing to a particular set of beliefs and values; different beliefs and you become part of another group.

      Perhaps to further illustrate my point you'd like to buy a lump of metal I have here which I'm willing to part with for around $400.00 an oz. It's gold, I swear, though it may have a few too many or too few protons.

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    6. Re:He ain't one of us by AzureLunatic · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Don't mistake the opinions of the loud members of the group as shown in media for the opinions of the average member of the group.

      Seems that the grandparent poster there thinks he's the mode and the loud assholes waving the Conservative Southern Baptist flag are outliers. Very loud, mediagenic, and obnoxious outliers gaining a lot of attention. This would skew the mean opinion of others about conservative Southern Baptists when the quiet, polite, fun-to-be-around and sane ones don't get media attention because they're just folks and the loud assholes are news.

    7. Re:He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Membership is by definition subscribing to a particular set of beliefs and values; different beliefs and you become part of another group.

      The core Southern Baptist belief is that asking praying to God in the name of Jesus Christ and asking him to forgive you for the bad things you've done means that you get to spend eternity in his presence after you die. That is one of the main, unarguable tenets - if you don't believe that, then you can't be a member of a Southern Baptist church.

      The Southern Baptist Convention publishes lists of position statements and their basic beliefs. Although they explicitly declare positions in other areas of theological debate, they conspicuously offer no opinion on creation versus evolution.

      Many churchmembers share my opinion: God created the Universe and all life in it, with scientific evidence currently supporting the theories (in the scientific sense) of the Big Bang and evolution, respectively. He made a complex and beautiful world for us, and gave us the intelligence and curiosity to learn how he did it.

      Although certain individual churches or leaders may have expressed opinions on these subjects, it's important to know that the Southern Baptist Convention is more of a coalition than a hierarchy (as opposed to, say, the Roman Catholic Church). To the best of my knowledge, no broadly recognized authority requires adhering to belief in a 6000-year-old planet or "intelligent design".

      I really didn't mean to be so long-winded. In summary, you can be a Southern Baptist in good standing without agreeing with every other Southern Baptist on every single issue. Some shared beliefs are very important to us, but I don't believe that this is one of them.

      As far as violent video games, my personal belief is that they're probably not "solid nourishment" for your mind. A mental diet of GTA:SA is probably no better for your inner self than a physical diet of Pixie Stix would be good for your body. On the other hand, the occasional Pixie Stix is yummy and not likely to hurt you, unless you're genetically predisposed to react poorly to that trigger.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    8. Re:He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      Don't mistake the opinions of the loud members of the group as shown in media for the opinions of the average member of the group.

      Thank you. That's pretty much exactly the way I feel about it.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    9. Re:He ain't one of us by NightParrot · · Score: 1

      The grandparent poster covered your conflating some random Christian news site with Southern Baptists specifically (I couldn't find a denominational id on agapewhatever, and damn you for making me look at that bilge, btw, you insensitive clod). What puzzles me is why you make this noise about "THIS is what your people believe, THIS" and then quoted some perfectly unremarkable wire copy on California Assemblyman Leland Yee, who doesn't seem to have any publicly professed religious affiliation.

    10. Re:He ain't one of us by spazimodo · · Score: 1
      To bring it back to the original topic - you offer your personal opinion on why we shouldn't associate Southern Baptists and Jack Thompson's wacky crusade, but typing in "videogames" in the search field of the SBC site brings you right to this: (Faith and Family purports to be the public policy arm of the SBC in their about page)

      "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" allows players to run over prostitutes with stolen cars. Research has shown that video game violence leads to long-term aggressive behavior. A video game that combines violence and pornography "threatens to create a generation of young men who are addicted to violence and sexual exploitation of women. Parents should carefully monitor the kinds of videogames they allow in their homes."


      How is that different from what Jack Thompson is saying?
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    11. Re:He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      How is that different from what Jack Thompson is saying?

      The difference is that the SBC is stating that it is the opinion of several of their organizers that certain video games are bad for kids [0]. Jack Thompson is suing to make it all-but-impossible for you and I - presumably both adults - to make decision about our own entertainment.

      [0] Some (most? I have no idea) research probably shows that they're not bad for children. Just sayin' that there probably is some report, somewhere, that says violent games are bad.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    12. Re:He ain't one of us by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 1

      Given that the tenets that define the southern baptist religion were established a century or two before the _computer_ existed, I'm thinking you're full of shit, sir.

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    13. Re:He ain't one of us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm all atheist, but I have to defend the Baptist guy.

      Many Catholics use birth control, have abortions, ... but they are still Catholics. They just aren't "Orthodox". "Orthodox" seems to be the word you are reaching for.

  44. Not quite disbarred! Just lost pro hac vice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I note that it said that he "lost his temporary license to practice law in Alabama" this does NOT mean (necessarily) that he has been or will be disbarred.

    In general, each state has a state bar association which licenses attourneys for that state (nit: a lawyer is someone who has gone to law school; an attourney is someone licensed to practice law--you can technically be one without being the other, although they generally overlap). Also, one must generally be admitted to said state bar association in order to practice law in that state.

    So how do you avoid having to have 50 licenses (plus special ones for various internal courts, etc.)? Three words: pro hac vice. I believe it's Latin for "for this purpose" -- there are different rules in each state, but generally if one is admitted to the bar of one state, you can apply for pro hac vice in most any court if you're representing someone in that state. Assuming you meet their qualifications, etc., you can then represent that person in that case even though you're not admitted to the bar of that state.

    Long story short: he's off the case (unless he can convince them to reinstate him--which is probably an uphill battle), and he may find it harder to get admitted pro hac vice in Alabama (or elsewhere, for that matter). He's not disbarred, and I can't find any mention of other sanctions, although I'd expect the judge to file some manner of complaint with his home bar association, etc.

    Disclaimer: IANAL, but I've read a fair amount about how pro hac vice (the last word isn't vice like Miami Vice, it's pronounced VEECH-ay), and if you're trying to be admitted pro hac vice, you probably *are* a lawyer who doesn't need lectures from random, anonymous Slashdotters :P

  45. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by arkanes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And it was probably the most contrived, ridiculous CSI episode I've ever seen, and thats saying a bit. The guy who "makes the game" - CEO of the company and apparently also the game designer - won't tell them the games storyline, because "it's proprietary"? There's no gamefaqs.com in whatever planet CSI is set on? And the "twist" that the game designer is actually the secret "Wizard" that all the "players" turn their "points" into? Please. And the justification is that it somehow drives sales of his game? Right.

  46. Anybody have a link to the actual decision? by Kelmenson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Been searching all around and all I can find are the one-line summaries. I'd much prefer to hear the judge slapping Thompson around. Anybody have a link?

  47. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    for (x=0 xx+1;x++) - that's a tricky xploit in itself right there, a bit buggy though ;)

  48. GO JUDGE! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You know, while every day we hear more and more reasons why our legal system is broken, its nice to see that this time it is working exactly as it should. I commend this judge for fulfilling his obligation to the State and to the law. Personally, this is just like a friggin soap opera for me.

    Seriously, its like a contest between Jack Thompson, Sony, and the RIAA to see who can bury themselves the fastest while at the same time sustaining the most bullet wounds to their feet.

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    1. Re:GO JUDGE! by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      [...] while at the same time sustaining the most bullet wounds to their feet.

      My favorite image along those lines comes from someone's response to one of the older SCO articles (probably about a year ago): "He's shooting himself in the foot before sticking his foot in his mouth."

      I just love that (perhaps that makes me sick) -- the image of a guy hopping around on one foot, yelling incoherent obscenities because his mouth is full of his other foot, and blood flying everywhere. A fitting end.

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  49. Jack Johnson by BlkItlStl · · Score: 1

    Not only is Jack Thompson trying to ruin the name of the gaming industry. He is also ruining the name of a perfectly good artist who's name happens to rhyme with it.

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    1. Re:Jack Johnson by Zorque · · Score: 0

      Why wasn't this moderated funny? At least I've always found Jack Johnson's music career hilarious.

    2. Re:Jack Johnson by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      What about the other Jack Thompson: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0860233/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx 0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9amFjayB0aG9tcHNvbnxmd D0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;f t=21;fm=1 ?

      I admit I was having difficulty working out why an Australian actor was staging a trial in Alabama...

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    3. Re:Jack Johnson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the perfectly good artist called Jack Johnson, where he may be, is already having his good name ruined by that surfer dickhead with the atonal whining and poor impressions of Ben Harper...

  50. Article mirror by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    I don't seem to be able to get to the article - something about their annoying advertising and my refusal to send referrers or accept cookies. Anybody have a mirror or another link to the court's filing?

  51. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by Is0m0rph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't forget the CEO also was an arms smuggler for the kids. They jacked a shipment of Mac-10s to supply the kids with weapons. It really was a ridiculous storyline, even for CSI: Miami.

  52. headline: Jack's Off! by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

    Now if only the judge could take care of Joseph Leiberman :)

    Jack, Joe, the Catholic League, countless "family" organizations (religious fundementalist backed), and even Hillary Clinton...

    Perhaps a small victory for the time being but there are certainly plenty of organized freedom hating people out there, willing to rid the world of whatever they find offensive and unholy.

    1. Re:headline: Jack's Off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're so into freedom, tell me why exactly these people shouldn't be allowed to speak their minds? This decision is about Jack's behavior, not his position.

    2. Re:headline: Jack's Off! by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

      Oh i'm very much into freedom. They should be allowed to speak their mind. The only problem is they're not just speaking it, they're trying to create and impose laws that dictate their personal tastes.

      All of the mentioned folks above are seeking profit, not freedom. Wether that be political power such as votes, or financial backing from parental/religious organizations, or large sum victories against videogame developers.

      They're not at all for freedom, despite their use of free speech.

      They're out for power. Power to control/shape all of our lives as they see fit, for personal gain. That is sick.

    3. Re:headline: Jack's Off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actaully, Joseph Leiberman was more about the industry providing the tools for the parents to police content effectively. He endorsed the ESRB bigtime. Although his positions aren't mine, he's far from an irrational venom spouting boob.

      He had a great interview in Next-Generation magazine back in the day. Again - you probably wouldn't have liked his positions - but he did actually play games rather than merely scream at them. He's exactly the kind of devil's advocate the industry needs to help bolster it's public image and credibility. Thoughtful opposing viewpoints aren't the problem, being a firebrand for mere money and political gain is. Leiberman represents the best of the opposing viewpoints to date.

      Hell - if you want to see a politician who DOESN'T know beans about video-games - look up Hillary Clinton. Now - THAT - was sheer feckless grandstanding.

  53. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Notice that they didn't blame the game for causing the violence though. It was the scummy game publisher who put the kids up to it as a publicity stunt.

  54. Damn... by david.given · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...given the story title I was hoping for something a little bit more, well, ballistic.

  55. Dolemite by ajlitt · · Score: 1

    And unfortunately it's not Rudy Ray Moore either. Else, he'd have been dismissed with "Man, move over and let me pass 'fore they have be to pullin' these Hush Puppies out your m-f-'in a**!"

  56. Crybabies who are failures as parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get the fuck out of the courtroom and let a real case get tried.

    In the meantime, try getting a book on how to be a parent and try being one for once and accepting the responsibility of your failures.

    Greedy sacks of crap; all 3 families should be sterilized so such ignorance cannot breed more and train more to be failures like the parents.

    Vermin.

  57. Filet-O-Fish by adisakp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Jack Thompson, his brand of Christianity has as much to do with what they practice at the church down the street as McDonald's McFish sandwich does with the ocean

    I resent that remark! The Filet-O-Fish is my favorite sandwich at McDonalds and is made from real fish. If you buy one, it probably comes out of the a little factory in Gloucester, Ma that also processes Gorton's premium fishsticks. It's a real fish product made here in the USA.

    Besides, you never know what the "church down the street" might be saying. There are quite a few churches which have sermons against violence in video game. One of the biggest churches here in the Chicago burbs had a televised sermon against violence in movies and TV. Ironically, a couple months later they organized a group ticket sale for kids to see "The Passion" which is arguably the bloodiest most violent "snuff" flick I've ever seen (even if it was done in the style of a beautiful Italian art film).

    Anyhow, the funniest thing about this whole Jack Thompson affair from my viewpoint (I work in video games and read TRST reports) is that usually when a game gets a lot of bad press for "ultra-realistic violence", the sales of the game actually go up.

    1. Re:Filet-O-Fish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Well, there's a difference between thinking your kids shouldn't morally be playing violent video games, and thinking it will cause them to go on killing sprees.

    2. Re:Filet-O-Fish by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, I have no problems with Christians who feel that violence in movies and videogames is wrong.

      It's just the Christians that try to convince my lawmakers that violence in movies and videogames is wrong, that the responsible party in violent acts perpetrated by people that consume such entertainment is the producer of that entertainment, and that humans are not themselves smart enough to apply their own moral frameworks in a consistent manner to their purchasing decisions (and therefore require legislature to do it for them), that I have a problem with.

      Like I've said elsewhere, I could care less what Jack Thompson believes. It's the fact that he's trying to force me to act like I believe it too that's the problem.

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    3. Re:Filet-O-Fish by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      I worked at McDonalds. The filet of fish are actually deep fried used sponges dipped in tartar sauce. Crazy, but true*.

      (* Not actually true)

    4. Re:Filet-O-Fish by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I accidentally ordered the fish instead of the chicken sandwich. I went to eat it and unfortunately it looks exactly like the chicken to the unsuspecting. I took a nice giant bite and almost vomited because of the taste difference. I've never been able to order one since.

  58. Aha! One mystery solved.. by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And even if nothing happens to hiim, at least we now know where another litigious lunatic gets his inspiration from.

  59. hopefully` by alizard · · Score: 1

    someone who is going to discover that his license to practice in his home state is in danger Real Soon Now. Lawyers are supposed to know better than to piss off judges, especially when it appears that this lawyer is trying to profit from the grief of 3 families by filing a meritless lawsuit on their behalf.

  60. Re:A Judge has revoked your license to practice la by Desert+Raven · · Score: 1

    If you're Jack Thompson you probably also do d) File a lawsuit against the judge for dismissing you.

    Even Jack can't do that. Judges have unconditional immunity from prosecution for all acts arising from their judicial authority. Even if the judge was being malicious, he can't be sued, only overruled.

    Lawyers can only be sued for intentional/malicious malfeasance.

    Other officers of the court have pretty much no immunity, even if there wasn't any improper intent.

  61. High Priest McDonald say... by circusboy · · Score: 1

    Don't forget that the filet-o-fish is a big seller on fridays due to the religious convictions of some. One of the major reasons that sandwich exists really...

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  62. I can't help but jump in on this one by AutopsyReport · · Score: 2, Funny
    What's the difference between a Catfish and a Jack Thompson?
    One is a scum-sucking bottom-dweller, and the other is a fish.

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  63. tossing off in court is no laughing matter by ericcantona · · Score: 0

    not surprised he was removed from court if he was a tosser

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  64. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by flatface · · Score: 1

    ---------- compile java ----------
    Chickenofbristol55.java:5: ';' expected
            for (x=0 xx+1;x++){
                             ^
    Chickenofbristol55.java:5: ';' expected
            for (x=0 xx+1;x++){
                                     ^
    Chickenofbristol55.java:8: illegal start of expression
        }
            ^
    3 errors
    Normal Termination
    Output completed (0 sec consumed).

    I can not read your comment because it does not compile properly.

  65. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by isomeme · · Score: 1

    #!/usr/bin/perl

    print "And don't you come back", '... no more' x 4, ".\n";

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  66. This is no good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me first start off by saying my own opinion of Jack is that he has some issues and they may well be serious enough to warrant a diagnosis of psychopathy. But this is all going by what I know of others having said about him, combined with his public stunts.

    However, lay people should not be using DSM descriptions to diagnose themselves or others. That is wrong. You can not practice psychology out of a book. This is not like fixing computers where you have a set list of symptoms and a limited number of possible causes.

    For example, many of my geek friends would demonstrate a failure to conform to social norms, impulsivity, and irritability. That would seem to fit the criteria of a pyschopath diagnosis. But it is not that simple. Each feature is a question of degree and duration for starters, as well as seeing if there is a logical or physiological cause for any given symptom. The reality is, someone can tend to be irritable, with an impulsive streak, and fail to conform to many societal norms, and not be worthy of a psychopath label.

    An very common example in the states would be people who regularly drink too much coffee, were raised to be impulse shoppers, and are geeks. The too much coffee can create an irritable streak, the apparent impulsiveness when shopping was a taught behavior, and failing to conform to social norms is a result of having a strong sense of self and a rejection of things deemed illogical or stupid. That is not a psychopath, even though it would seem, on the surface, to fit the DSM criteria.

    Please, please, please people. If you are not a trained psychologist, don't go using this to diagnose others or yourselves. You can put a mindfuck on someone or yourself, and in the case of using it against others, it can get you sued for slander. Leave this type of stuff to the pros.

    1. Re:This is no good. by RobinH · · Score: 1

      You are correct. The DSM only exists to function as a standard. As an analogy, look at internet RFC's. If you read all the RFC's, that wouldn't make you qualified to design a computer system until you took some courses, or got some experience in the field with real networks.

      The same is true of the DSM - it is a reference manual for psychologists, not a do-it-yourself workbook. Psychologists diagnose people by talking to them first, then giving them a battery of psychological tests and scoring them on multiple criteria to determine if the person qualifies on each of the diagnostic criteria, and then finally using their professional judgement which comes with a lot of training and experience, peer review, etc., before giving the person a real diagnosis.

      And sometimes (gasp!) they change their diagnoses so that they fit better into a category that the person's insurance company will recognize and agree to pay for the diagnosis and treatment. Oh, did I say that out loud?

      So don't take the DSM too seriously. According to that book, everyone has some kind of diagnosable disorder.

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  67. That Cok Sucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    unable to conduct himself in a manner befitting practice in this state


    How many other lawyers get thrown out on their ass like this? Even god damn Johnnie Cocran didn't get chucked out for the Wookie Defense, when he should have.

    We have entirely too many fucking lawyers in this country. I want some kind of Law Survior series, with the losers being eaten by whatever predators happen to be in the forest at the time. Put this guy on front and center. Just give him a piece of steel and a flint and tell him you'll "come back for him in 3 months".
  68. "HOWTO: get a clue" won't help the likes of him by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Seems like Jack's the kind of person that needs the instructions read to him and interrupts you every 10 seconds to reiterate his own mistaken understanding of what you just said.

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    1. Re:"HOWTO: get a clue" won't help the likes of him by dbIII · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It won't work against invincible hypocracy. Recall that this guy is part of a group called "The Freedom Alliance" - which probably should be called the treason alliance becuase it is led by a guy who used his US government position to sell weapons to a declared enemy of the US to give money to a major drug dealer that was later arrested by US military action.

      He's part of the "no rules for us but strict rules for you" culture that in increasingly spreading - he thinks he should have a right to say anything but others shouldn't.

  69. Maybe... by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe the judge bounced his ass out of there so that the trial would be about the plaintiff's case, rather than Jack's agenda?

    Just a thought...

    -jcr

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  70. Read the quotes aloud by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Read the quotes aloud with an Alabama accent and a mouth full of chewing tobacco, and it'll be more like being there!

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  71. How funny... by iotashan · · Score: 1

    I find it highly amusing that anyone who says anything publically negative about Jack is, according to Jack, doing something illegal. It's usually the same soundbyte over and over. This time it's a judge, so there's some judicial thing that he's breaking.

  72. can you give some specific examples? by BigChigger · · Score: 1

    I hear liberals all talking about the Religious - Republican alignment, but all I've ever seen is circular references.

    BC

    1. Re:can you give some specific examples? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want examples? Let's talk examples.

      Let's start with Bush told Palestinian leaders that he was ordered by God to attack Afghanistan and Iraq.
      Or maybe how some Republicans love to play god.
      And then there's Harriet Miers and Roe vs. Wade, the Republican party openly courting groups such as the Christian Coalitition, and so on.

      So, you're talking about a party whose highest elected leader openly claims that God talks to him, and you just cannot see a connection?

      Maybe that's the problem with the "real" Republicans. The neo-cons have stolen their leadership and left them to spin in circles (see: Texas, where the "Republican" majority found it more important to declare the dutch oven the "official" state cooking implement and pass laws against "suggestive" cheerleading than to deal with the Texas budget) and they either can't tell, or can't care. They'll happily wave floppy sandles at opponents' rallies, even as their neo-con leadership turns ethics laws on and off like a lightbulb, but somehow they repeatedly fail to understand whats happening to their party.

      Or maybe the REAL problem is that people talk using the blanket term "conservative" and not "socially conservative" and "fiscally conservative" leading to lots of confusion over just what the hell it means to be "Republican".

      Either way, at this rate, this neo-con leadership will marginalize the Republicans as much (if not more) than Clinton marginalized the Democrats. Personally, I'm glad, with both the Republicans and Democrats down for the count, we might start seeing some real life from the "third" parties. I'm up for a good Libertarian president with a solid grounding in reality, if they can manage to attract someone who isn't more of a wacko than whoever the Democrats scrounge up in 2008.

  73. Has anyone seen the 18 page ruling? by dbrower · · Score: 1
    I went looking on Alabama court websites, and came up empty.

    Is there someone who can go down to the courthouse, pick up a copy, and post the contents somewhere?

    thanks,

    -dB

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  74. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by pclminion · · Score: 3, Informative
    And it was probably the most contrived, ridiculous CSI episode I've ever seen, and thats saying a bit.

    To be fair, last night's episode wasn't any more contrived or ridiculous than any other episode they've made.

    And the "twist" that the game designer is actually the secret "Wizard" that all the "players" turn their "points" into? Please.

    No, the "Wizard" was a college kid who played himself to death. The game designer hired another goon to sell the weapons to the kids. Did you actually pay any attention to the episode?

    Did you notice that the episode was NOT full of moralizing, "These kinds of games are ruining America," etc? The closest it got was one of the characters saying "This is why I stopped playing this game at home." It was just another plot device. The writers of CSI are not out to "get" the video game industry. They are doing what they always do, which is to take current events and spin them into a crappy story line.

    In fact, I think the episode did a slight service to the cause, by portraying the kids as junked-out psychos who took something too far, instead of poor innocents who were corrupted by evil video games. Geez, people get so worked up.

  75. Vague by ShortSpecialBus · · Score: 1

    That's pretty broad. Most people fit #3, and I think you could count on a single hand the number of people in the world who don't fit #4. Who is never irritable??

    With those two hit by most of the population, I would think the number of people that grab a random one of the rest are pretty high, especially with #1 being as vague as it is.

    I think the "worst" of those are probably #5 and #7. Then again, you might not have explained the criteria to meet one, such as how irratable someone is, etc...

    Meh.

    -stefan

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    1. Re:Vague by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      Yeah it's vague and could apply to alot of people taken in the loosest sense, which is why it takes a trained professional to diagnose these types of conditions. There are alot of variables in these situations that need to be factored in that could amplify or negate the weighting of any given behaviors on the list.

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  76. Fact by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Some people prefer the definition of fact that goes as follows:
    A concept whose truth can be proved

    1. Re:Fact by compro01 · · Score: 1

      and these concepts cannot be proved as true, thus they are not facts.

      i can keep going on this nitpicking contest for a couple days at least.

      how about you?

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    2. Re:Fact by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Definitions:
      a piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred; "first you must collect all the facts of the case"
      a statement or assertion of verified information about something that is the case or has happened; "he supported his argument with an impressive array of facts"
      an event known to have happened or something known to have existed; "your fears have no basis in fact"; "how much of the story is fact and how much fiction is hard to tell"
      knowledge or information based on real occurrences; a thing that has been done; something shown to exist; something known to have existed; a real occurrence;

      None of these really fit what Jackie boy spouts when a camera is on him.

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  77. As a christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not claiming Jack Thompson. First, he insults me as a gamer. Second, it's hardly a Christ-like attitude to go around making up information, twisting truth to suit your own needs, slandering people in general, and there's quite a bit in the Bible about asking for wisdom, which Jack Thompson has certainly not done.

    Remember kiddies, just because someone CLAIMS to be something does not mean they ARE.

  78. Enlightenment: I do not think it means what you... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I know of restraint and I know of sacrifice, and find I want nothing to do with either of them.

    The thing about enlightenment is that things that are valuable at certain levels of enlightenment, become worthless at others and vice-versa. Hence, I am become Shiva, destroyer of worlds.

    I do not "become" angry, anger is always a part of who I am. I do not "become" millitaristic, I am always millitaristic, I do not "become" involved because I am always involved.

    The http://www.falundafa.org/ website, (and the first book) explains a lot of the things you don't seem to understand.

  79. Thank you Mr. Jack Thompson... by aero2600-5 · · Score: 1

    You are a constant source of amusement.

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  80. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an idea. How about an episode where an out-of-work, fanatical lawyer runs around town shooting video game store owners and game software developers?

    Oh, wait, I forgot. Someone already came up with that idea, so I'd have to share the royalties. Forget that.

  81. A Dual Obsession by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Judging by the details in the Wikipedia article on Jack Thompson, both this lawyer and many of his gaming foes seem a bit lacking in civility and self-control. It's easy to suspect that Judge Moore showed good sense in tossing Thompson off the case before it went to trial.

    Unfortunately, not much can be done about the similar behavior of gamers who forget that what they're doing is a mere hobby and shouldn't become an obsession. Whether games increase a tendency to violence or create indifference to violence inflicted on others, games clearly do create addicts obsessed with living in their make-believe world.

    Was this Jack Thompson once a gaming addict? It seems likely. This story reminds me of an AA meeting I once attended. No longer going on drunken binges, those there seemed obsessed with talking about how dreadful their former drunken binges were. In one way or another, alcohol had stolen their lives.

    Gaming may or may not be responsible for taking lives in the 'makes them kill other people' sense. But is certainly takes away the lives of gamers themselves one obsessed and addicted day at a time.

  82. Personally I hate the ineffectual. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    The Bible says:
    Revelation 3:15-16
    15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot: I would that you were cold or hot.

    16 So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spit you out of my mouth.

    Which, of course, is misinterpreted like the rest of the Bible by most Christians.

    1. Re:Personally I hate the ineffectual. by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have to agree with hackwrench here...

      Look at it this way, if Jack were really ineffectual at what he did, well he wouldn't be on CNN every time you turn around. And if he were effective at what he did, then there would be plenty of opportunities to disprove him. Instead he's only partly effective, and in this state he is nearly untouchable to guys like me that don't get called by CNN every time some kid decides it's a good idea to murder eight people before lunch...

      He gets to go on TV and say "won't someone think of the children!" and "it was satanic video games that made them do this!!!" while I get to sit at home and say "Jesus man you had to hack that video game just to get to that content, give it a rest!" but noone listens to me...

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  83. Bible Misread Error. by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The tree is "The tree of the knowlege of Good and Evil", not just the tree of knowlege. Eating from that tree gave a "knowing" that certain things were good and bad. Suicide is not necessarily bad, but we got that knowledge from eating from that tree. Same with nudity, sex outside of marriage, and homosexuality. Fundamentalists keep eating from that tree.

    1. Re:Bible Misread Error. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      *sigh* Where's George Washington and his hatchet when you need him?

  84. Sunwolf summed it up nicely in a previous article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    by Sunwolf (853208) sums it up nicely:


    For those not in the know, here are some exchanges between netizens and Jack Thompson:

    VG Cats v Jack Thompson
    Penny-Arcade v Jack Thompson
    a 14 Year Old v Jack Thompson

    He was pwned terribly in each case.
  85. Oh, I dunno. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 1

    How about this? Or this? Or this? Or this?

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  86. Totally OT by dhanes · · Score: 1

    Your sig, reminds me of achewood.(love it!!)....did you grab it from there?

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    1. Re:Totally OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tis from The Simpsons. The episode where they find Homers head is a mascot for a Japanese cleaning product called Mr Sparkle. "Join me or Die! Can you do any less!"

  87. How about e) complain to the Judicial Inquiry?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from the GameSpot article of 4 days ago:

    Thompson withdrew from the case, saying the defense was trying to make him the issue, but that he was stepping aside so that his clients' needs could better be served. Game Politics is reporting that Judge Moore criticized Thompson's professional conduct in an 18-page ruling, to which Thompson has responded with a letter to Alabama's Judicial Inquiry Commission questioning Judge Moore's ethics.

    (emphasis mine)

    (Of course I knew Jack would react like that. When he heard the Florida Bar Association was investigating him, he threatened to sue them. Whenever someone says something bad about him, he either threatens to sue them, or else sends a letter to some higher authority accusing them of all sorts of nasty behaviour.)

  88. Gamers of the world unite... by mortong · · Score: 1

    Now do we get to eat his liver?

  89. DSM is not for kids by Fex303 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Look folks, there's a reason psychologists go to school for many, many years and get to prescribe drugs and such. Reading the DSM-IV-TR (or the IV, or the III-R, or the III, etc.) doesn't equip you to make meaningful decisions about anyone's mental health, much less your own.

    As another undergraduate psych major, I'd like to agree with the above post. Cut and pasting bits and pieces from DSM is a bad idea unless people understand what DSM is and how it works.

    From the Wikipedia article: The DSM provides diagnostic categories and criteria for their diagnoses. The proper use of these requires clinical training, knowledge and skills to apply them. Their use by people without this background is likely to lead to an inappropriate application of diagnoses.

    That about sums it up. It's not a layman's document.

    Jack Thompson might well be completely batshit insane, but you can't make a diagnosis based on seeing him on the news and reading a couple of articles.

    1. Re:DSM is not for kids by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Considering that psychopath & sociopath were interchangeable at one point, I think its fair to say that most people know a sociopath when they see one.

      And I don't mean it in the sense that "he's a wack job because he disagrees with me."

      try this article about a book called "the sociopath next door"
      http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2005/03/22/sociop ath/index_np.html
      http://www.salon.com/news/cookie756.html --skip their ad based crap

      Basically, the author makes the case that there are a lot of people who meet the definition of a sociopath without being over-the-top batshit-insane.

      Thompson probably has other mental health issues he needs to deal with besides whatever sociopathic tendancies he's exhibiting.

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  90. If he ever... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... changes in his legal briefs for a gun, we're all screwed. Worse than angry Jack is angry naked Jack with a gun.

  91. If ALABAMA judges are... by BarakMich · · Score: 1

    If *Alabama* judges are revoking your license to practice law, you are officially an asshat.

    It's not like this happened in California or anything. Alabama. One of the most conservative states in the Union. Throwing out a conservative nutjob. Think about it.

    1. Re:If ALABAMA judges are... by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      One of the most conservative states in the Union. Throwing out a conservative nutjob. Think about it.

      Thinking...thinking...aah, now I need a cigarette.

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    2. Re:If ALABAMA judges are... by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 1

      That's the major advantage of conservative areas. The legal system there doesn't tolerate bullshit. Meaning they actually make descisions in accordance with the law even in cases where it conflicts the prevailing attitude of the area. Hurrah for places that aren't California, eh.

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  92. Luckily Thompson has not played the game... by BlabberMouth · · Score: 1

    or he may have shot and killed the defense attorneys.

  93. Re: Jack's problem by symbolic · · Score: 1

    Jack has only one (serious) problem...he just doesn't know when to shut the hell up. Sometimes saying LESS will get you a lot further.

  94. Rephrased: by AzureLunatic · · Score: 1
    So the occasional round of GTA:SA (or any other violent video game) to blow off stress would be just fine in most cases, and might keep people from wanting to bash their obnoxious co-worker's head in with a brick quite so badly.

    But if violent video games are all someone ever plays, they'd better have a pretty solid grasp on reality, because most violent videogames would be a really fucked-up worldview if people really started thinking that way.


    If saner heads prevail in getting the message that video games in moderation are great fun, but video game addiction is dangerous, will that mean that video games will start having to carry the same kinds of warnings that keyboards and cigarettes do?

    1. Re:Rephrased: by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      Yep, that's pretty much how I see it.

      I don't think the warning labels would ever be useful, though. The idiots who buy GTA for their pre-teens would never bother to read any additional information:

      Box: Warning: this game cause epilepsy in all children within 15 minutes.
      Idiot parent: Ooh, shiny! Jimmy will love this!
      Jack Thompson: All your bad PR are belong to me.

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  95. godhatesfags.com by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    Just so you know, those guys aren't a joke
    The anti-defamation league has a bit to say about them

    http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:www.adl.org/s pecial_reports/wbc/default.asp

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    1. Re:godhatesfags.com by Lucractius · · Score: 1

      Id like to quote Leviticus "No man is to have sexual relations with another man, God hates this."

      While im a well adjusted individual who doesnt realy give a rats. Im sure there will always be someone out there that will do something like that website, just cause of a line like this in the bible.

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    2. Re:godhatesfags.com by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 2

      I remember reading about the good folk at god hates fags. Seems at their core they are a fun loving family who consider it okay to hold noisy protests at the funerals of gays. Seems they believe that gays will burn in hell and they want to make sure that the grieving friends & relatives are aware of this. Lovely bunch.

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  96. OT: Golf by 920714 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The point of golf is to acheive the lowest score possible on each hole. +5 would mean that it took 5 more strokes to put the ball in the whole than par which is terrible. In slashdot golf we should also aim for the lowest score like me, I'm quite positive I'll get modded -1, offtopic or not at all which would give me a large stroke advantage over your score.

    You can call me the Jack Nicklaus of Slashdot.

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    1. Re:OT: Golf by c4ffeine · · Score: 1

      Just for the record, I would pay a large sum of money to see someone get a negative score in golf.

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  97. Speaking of ethics by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

    I wonder, how does the BAR association view slander? I mean, Thompson has quite clearly accused this judge of violating the ethics code of judges, that would seem, to my non-lawyer eye, to have the appearnce of slanderig the judge; unless, of course, Thompson can actually prove that claim, or show that it was intended as an opinion and not ment to cause harm.

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  98. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

    -- Oscar Wilde

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  99. always a good point! by bobalu · · Score: 1

    Just because someone claims to be in some tradtion or group doesn't mean the others agree.

    The true Silent Majority.

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  100. Who here remembers Signal 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The KW thing was basically Sig11 exposing the groupthink of /.

    when Karma was an int it was assumed that a person with high Karma knew what they were talking about.

    Sig11 racked up huge amounts of Karma and would then guide a whole discussion until half the people were praising MS as the one and only savior of computing.

    Shortly after that cmdrTaco invented the bitch slap which would mod down ALL of a users comments, past adn present adn set them posting at -1 by default.

    sig11 eventually turned the /. group think against taco and the site in general and was banned by taco ./ has another sig 11 user but it is not that same guy.

    man... those were the days.

    we worked for years trying to get goatse on the front page, eventually we settled for a hacked redirect.

    1. Re:Who here remembers Signal 11 by timster · · Score: 1

      I remember Signal 11. I never really got it, though.

      Most of his comments were well-written, interesting, and reasonably thoughtful, if not terribly original. It seemed like a childish exercise, then, for him to claim that his lack of sincerity proved that he had suckered the entire system. I mean, if I told you that I don't really "mean it" when I go to work and do my job, does that make me some kind of a rebel who ought not be paid?

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    2. Re:Who here remembers Signal 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole thing sig11 had going was that he would guide the conversation.

      I agree that his comments were original, well thought out and well written. IF they were not he would never have gotten such high Karma.

      His point about the moderation system being broken was that /. Awarded groupthink. If you agree with the group you get modded up, if you disagree you get modded down. He was intelligent enough to sway the opinions of people who were normally steadfast in their stance.

      People would make very valid points about a story, and if sig11 wanted, he would guide the whole thread until the guy was at -1 troll for saying something very reasonable and intelligent. /. Still does promote group think. If you think any different, look at any pro MS post in a Linux story.

      One or two will be modded interesting because the original poster has a low UID, the rest will be modded troll, especially if posted AC.

  101. oh come on by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remember those lists floated around after Columbine, warning parents and teachers what to look out for in potential school shooters? Things like depression, trouble with authority, stops hanging out with friends they had in grade school...things that every fucking teenager goes through at one point or another. This list is just like that.

  102. You completely missed the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you missed the point of the post you're replying to as well as what was discussed at the article you linked to.

    I think its fair to say that most people know a sociopath when they see one.

    No, they don't actually and the links you provided actually discuss the fact that the people said to exist AREN'T noticed by most people. Here's a relevant quote:
    'The fact that most of us never suspect our friends and neighbors of sociopathy only makes the transgressions easier to pull off.'

    If you're not trained, you can't expect to accurately diagnose anyone of anything. Even if you are trained, if you don't sit down with that person and get them to open up honestly with you, you can't expect to accurately diagnose them. You could mistake POTS for schizophrenia, severe depression for sociopathy, I mean the list goes on. All of the different subtleties that exist, different reasons people have for similar surface behaviors, it's just not something you can read a book about and think you can spot any particular disorder.

    What it comes down to is this: If you're not trained and personally involved in the therapy of that person you aren't in a position to say that type of shit about people. It's really that simple. I don't care what brilliant author you read(and I personally consider Martha Stout brilliant), I don't caree what psych courses you took, I don't care what pompous ideas you have about yourself and your understanding, you are not in a position to say that type of shit about people.

    Have you got the point now?

    If not, let me make an observation about you... You are exhibiting symptoms of megalomania based upon your expressed belief in grandiose and logically unreasonable abilities.

    Do you get it now?

  103. so is rodeo... by lemon031 · · Score: 0

    ...rodeo has competitions, i'm sure it's difficult, and i bet you hurt like hell after getting the shit kicked out of you by a pissed off bull. car racing probably fits those criteria as well. that being said, neither of those things are sports.

    1. Re:so is rodeo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They aren't? Do only team sports count for you or something?

      I consider any physical competition to be a sport, no matter how many people are on the field at a time, that includes things like motor racing and golf.

  104. Yeah but we.... by robogymnast · · Score: 1

    are gonna see it twice!

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  105. wow, talk about "boston legal" material by geekbruin · · Score: 1

    when do you think the ripped from the headlines version will be out?

  106. For those too lazy to click the link. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Karma Whores

    Karma is a scoring system on Slashdot meant to reward "good" posting and punish "bad" posting. The goal is that people who repeatedly post offensive, offtopic, or otherwise unwanted messages will be punished with a lower visibility of their messages, and those who post informative, insightful, or otherwise desirable messages are rewarded with a higher visibility. Karma whores are individuals, or messages themselves, that attempt to receive feedback in the form of karma points. Often these will be needless information (such as a link to a Wikipedia article relevant to the subject being discussed), or a message of a political nature that is in alignment with the groupthink so that it will be moderated upwards by people who agree with the stance expressed in the message.

  107. Na na na na! Na na na na! Hey hey hey! Good bye! by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 0

    So long, Jack! Don't let the doors hit you in your big head on the way out!

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  108. Woot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To say it correctly as a gamer "OWNED!"

  109. Get Ready for a Firestorm by SlothB77 · · Score: 1

    Judge Moore. Alabama. Is this the 10 Commandments judge? 10 commandments judge. Maybe that has already been established in prior /. forums on the case. Otherwise, it will be interesting to see where /.er's align - with Thompson or Moore?

    1. Re:Get Ready for a Firestorm by SlothB77 · · Score: 1

      Nevermind. I read ahead and it is a different moore. disregard.

  110. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by 3-State+Bit · · Score: 1

    No more Gnome or no Moore no more.

  111. What about me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have had the most comments moderated +5 out of any of you!

    But I still don't get the damn +2 karma bonus. Damn it! Must be all my trolling and flamebait posts.

    -AC

  112. Stop being such a fanboy.. by JamesInsomniac · · Score: 1
    While I do disagree with Jack Thompson and his views, I also disagree with gamers who blindly throw their support to the industry. Gaming fanboys who do this are just as stupid as Thompson himself.

    "OMFG! Jack Thompson was done!"

    Be reasonable. Kids shouldn't be allowed to view Mature rated games with out permission from their parents, just as they shouldn't be allowed to watch R-Rated films without their parents permission.

  113. Lube by phorm · · Score: 1

    Personally, I'd think it's more a sign that some lube company saw how uptight he was (it's amazing the guy's head hasn't exploded), figured that he probably hadn't gotten laid in a very long time, and decided to capitalize on the situation.