Excuse me for not being up to date on this, but my point holds true that technology is used in both. It's different types of racing. Hell, I don't even like Nascar.
Don't be so ignorant. You speak as if carbon fiber and other modern materials aren't even used.
If you want an idea of what a "nascar style" brakes and suspension are like to purchase, a brake kit is just about $23,000.
I'm actually interested in what you think the material differences are between a Nascar and a F1 brake, aside from differences related to the size of the wheels, as that is something that'll make an impact in both classes.
The same goes with the engines. Just because a class is allowed take advantage of superchargers, turbos, compressed air, etc, doesn't mean it's any higher technology than a class that disallows these things. On both courses, you are building cars to run at peak horsepower for multiple hours. The limitation of these motors is a limitation of current technology, not any particular class. Anyway, if you think forced induction is high technology, you are getting close to a century off.
Still let me be an optimist and hope that in the long run at least, the amount of new useless patents will diminish with all the recent victories of common sense. Why even say more than this? The previous paragraph just reads like nonsense. How many lawyers represented each side? How many interns did each have? Dollar for dollar, what did each company spend on the legalities? You don't really know any of this. The very weight of the evidence may be enough, sometimes. Geesh.
Keep on hating M$, while blind to the fact that most of the AP/. articles that come down the pipe end up going to IIS hosted sites when anyone who actually gave a shit would have used an Apache powered alternative source, since AP articles get replicated thousands of times! Sometimes the obvious needs to be stated and you have to ask yourself, "how much do I care?"..:)
If he's going to cite this month's CNN headlines as possibilities of our unraveling in 30 years, he's really demonstrating how weak his mind is getting as he's getting older.
I'll turn to Fox News if I want to hear about the end of the world or live in fantasy land.
I guess I fail to see what's difficult about creating an account on a free service. Concerned about privacy? It's easy enough to set up bogus info. I guess I don't see the argument here.
It's a pain in the ass, and it's unnecesary. Though you missed the obvious "it's unnecessary", obviously it is, since you need to do it to access some information on these sites.
Aside from the fact that the company who is hosting the materials finds it necessary, other users of the site appreciate that you have to have an account to see their account details. As for a service provider, it gives them the opportunity to push for new members.
Mind you, if you are so broken that signing up is a pain for you, I'd imagine you wouldn't be a contributor, thus not really someone those networks care to please, as you won't ever be a generator of revenue for them.
Alright, this is my last reply to an AC. They are getting too stupid.
I am not going anywhere. I've got the best job in the world and have more sales in europe than here in the states, so almost all of my business exposure is europe and asia. That's really nice for folks who like to work in the early evening, completely avoiding the rat race feeling of 9-5.
Regardless, the escape was not working for a traded company. See, you think there's something different in the way big business runs here than it does in your neck of the woods, but amazingly, big business on this scale is relatively the same regardless of what part of the world you end up.
For instance, if you are working for ISS in one if their european offices, you are under the same upper management and held to the same policies regarding how YOU spend THEIR money on technology.
I still don't see what people fail to realize. It's so simple.
I agree. Spore is getting a lot of attention for no real reason, except that his house is in good with a few folks in the nerd media. Expect to see more artificially generated controversy, quotes, opinions, and lots of +5 Insightful / -1 Troll curves going back and forth as people get wrapped up in the hype.
Hey dingus, my company only has one Windows box. It runs under vmware ESX and is only used when, say, someone sends a document that bugs out in Open Office.
I began using Linux exclusively as a desktop in 1996 to trial-by-fire my way into a administrator job I wasn't qualified for. It worked, and I got to miss out on years of WinME, XP, and now Vista.
On the other hand, if you look through my other posts, you will see I've worked in Windows-exclusive shops. They were often this way because they were publically held companies. It sounds great to beat your chest on/. about what idiots you think you management is, but it's not your ass on the line for choosing a minority view on how a particular group of systems is run. When I say ass on the line, I mean it in a career-altering sense. If you screw up an investor's company and happened to change the IT end over to Linux, which is a minority way to do things, it'll be another thing on the list of reasons you failed to make them a return on their investment.
There can also be legal responsibility if things managed to not work out. We often forget that in large companies, there is almost always some level of internal sabotage taking place. Especially on projects where a lot of emotion and disagreements on both sides. In the end, it could look like a OS switch and other tech changes, were one of the primary reasons for failure.
This got me modded a troll the last time I said it, but I changed jobs over disliking microsoft products and began working for a company with BSD, Linux, OSX as the primary choices. The only Windows box is run under vmware ESX, and is only used for applications we just have to run Windows for on occasion.
Prior to changing jobs, I bitched and moaned non-stop about the insanity of every shop I had worked in since 2000, as they had all been forced into using primarily Windows on desktops and servers to emulate the steps the top earners in the field were doing. You can't blame them, really, because if they go against the grain, so to speak, and adopt a minority view of how big business is run, go through with it on the investor's dime, and fail, their ass is on the line, their entire future as a VP, Pres, Director, etc will forever be changed.
The guy sitting in the cube bashing his keyboard in over an IE crash tends not to thing of it this way, though it is often the reality and there's nothing a low-level is going to do to change it, aside from getting promoted up and then seeing if he has the gumption to risk his future on something that may, or may not, be the best fit for the IT as a whole.
Right, I'd get fired for saying it was wrong to come onto/. flaming upper management.
I can tell you like to just type what people want to see rather than point out the relatively obvious problem with disrespecting your fellow coworker, manager, etc by over-simplifying their reasons for making a decision.
Go ahead and do what Mr.+5 Insightful says. I won't be tossing change in your cup when you can't get a job due to always causing the shit to hit the fan with your managers over your personal feelings and not something actually written out in a way that makes business sense.
I think your social skills are one of the major limiting factors here.
If I was your management, and I saw the remarks you've made, I would make sure you were no longer at the company in a matter of days.
Why?
You run to/. to make derogatory remarks about the people who were nice enough to let you work for them. And for what? A snarky little vent on the front page? Not very creative with our use of time, are we?
If you don't like where the shop is going technology-wise, then there's plenty of other shops that have exactly what you are looking for.
I've wondered many times why/. does not link directly to AP sourced articles. Why's Yahoo! getting tens of thousands of page hits on an article, generating all that revenue, for something they had no part in?
Submitters, please consider looking for alternative sources when linking AP, since you are really just giving money to the big empires you dislike so much.
I know, off-topic, but I think it's worth mentioning, unless you like just funneling hits to such abysmal, ugly, hellholes on the web like Yahoo when the same article has been linked on probably 10,000 other sites, most with good bandwidth, less intrusive advertisements, and a cleaner layout.
I believe the issue in the 2004 elections was just a media-blast with little basis in reality. Well, unless you just wanted to see a mark in history changed on who got the popular vote.
Gore still would not have won the presidency regardless of what the popular vote count was. The folks you guys chose to vote for you made the ultimate decision. Fact is, the US has plenty of opportunity to change-up the electorals, but since people appear to be generally ignorant of how the system works, they clung to what CNN/Fox/WSB had to say and didn't take any action what-so-ever.
The election of the President of the United States and the Vice President of the United States is indirect. Presidential electors are selected on a state by state basis as determined by the laws of each state. Currently each state uses the popular vote on Election Day to elect electors. Although ballots list the names of the presidential candidates, voters within the 50 states and the District of Columbia are actually choosing Electors from their state when they vote for President and Vice President. These Presidential Electors in turn cast the official (electoral) votes for those two offices. Although the nationwide popular vote is calculated by official and media organizations, it does not determine the winner of the election. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Elector al_College
Contrary to popular opinion a respectable degree does not simply cram as many facts into your head as will fit. A university degree is supposed to give one the skills to find known answers to a question, any question! Well, it does teach an excellent lesson. If you are making $180k/yr, is it less expensive to sit there on the clock fishing through mountains of bullshit on Google, or sub out the work to a subordinate to do the work and come back with a nicely put together report? The answer is simply "yeah, you are going to save money having some monkey do the monkey work."
One could easily use the same logic to say that use of a secretary or executive assistant to do the things you don't have the time to deal with and still accomplish your primary objectives for the day.
I do think ChaCha is garbage, but I don't think it is cheating.
A final thought comes to mind that I didn't wedge in above: Today's students are a bit different than those of previous generations. I recall most students not having full-time jobs and getting far more than 4 hours of sleep a night between school/work/social activities back in my day. Anything to lessen the load and give a more accurate model of life in the professional world is a good thing.
Oh well, you better stop telling your overseas friends about your illegal activities then, right?
It's lovely to see all the posts about how our rights are getting shit on, when what? 52% of you americans voted this baboon into office again. Simply put, if you didn't want to eat turds for dinner, you shouldn't have ordered the flaming poo poo platter.
Let this be a long-lasting lesson about those patriotic feelings and letting fear fuel voting habits.
madgreek writes "Here is a short story about my switch to Ubuntu from XP at work. I have been Microsoft-free for 3 months now at a Microsoft heavy shop. Few people know I am using Open Office and Linux. I create countless documents that people open using Word, Excel, PPT and nobody can tell that they were created using Open Office. From the article: 'When I first started my experiment I was trying to keep it a secret out of fear of attacks from angry Microsoft worshipers (especially from the admins and desktop support). What I am finding out is that most of the folks that I was hiding from are sick and tired of supporting Windows and are proponents of Linux. Several of them are using Linux at home. One of the guys I talked to has Vista and XP installed on his laptop. He swaps out the hard drive when switching between OS's.'" Way to waste your company's money. Where do you work again?
Since Microsoft has shown they will drop price in response to piracy, I encourage everyone to pirate everything you can get your hands on. Spread it far and wide!
Why? Because we now have concrete evidence that software piracy drives DOWN the price of software!
How much could Microsoft actually have in Vista? Wasn't the bulk of it written by Indian coders for $3.70/hr like most software is nowadays anyway?
The attack to liberty you speak of is in these 'misdemeanor' offenses. If the laws were less crazy, then I could care less about how they manage to get enforced in public.
I have a problem with the ACLU's angle since they have a tendency to "support criminals". They should be out protesting the insane web of laws that make us all criminals instead of going after enforcement technologies. This is why they will ultimately fail in the end.
Xbox Live Arcade titles are $5-$12 each. Many are new, quality titles with all the game play of something much more expensive.
Between Catan, Bomberman Live, and a number of other cheap titles makes me wonder exactly how much a Wii user saves after buying a couple of games for $50-60 each. I've got 34 cheap titles on my HDD, most online multiplayer or splitscreen+online for guests and rarely does myself or a guest find themselves without something to do on the console.
Then again, I really dislike most DVD mega-releases since I got my fill on FPS titles since Doom1 and really don't need/like the way FMV is used to fill in the gaps most of the time.
Yeah, you are right. I was thinking sae took it from the tires, but it's the flywheel. There was a change in the 70s regarding this, but I don't recall the details obviously. Just 300hp car by one standard wasn't a 300hp car by the preceding one.
There have also been multiple revisions to the way the mpg is tested, so it's not very fair to compare door stickers.
You can make cars from the 60's-70's appear to have gobs more power per liter using old standards, too, which take the transmission, driveshaft, rear end, and tires out of the figures since power was measured at the crank and not the tires.
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How about the materials in the brakes?
Excuse me for not being up to date on this, but my point holds true that technology is used in both. It's different types of racing. Hell, I don't even like Nascar.
Specs over discussion, I spoze.
Don't be so ignorant. You speak as if carbon fiber and other modern materials aren't even used. If you want an idea of what a "nascar style" brakes and suspension are like to purchase, a brake kit is just about $23,000. I'm actually interested in what you think the material differences are between a Nascar and a F1 brake, aside from differences related to the size of the wheels, as that is something that'll make an impact in both classes. The same goes with the engines. Just because a class is allowed take advantage of superchargers, turbos, compressed air, etc, doesn't mean it's any higher technology than a class that disallows these things. On both courses, you are building cars to run at peak horsepower for multiple hours. The limitation of these motors is a limitation of current technology, not any particular class. Anyway, if you think forced induction is high technology, you are getting close to a century off.
Keep on hating M$, while blind to the fact that most of the AP
If he's going to cite this month's CNN headlines as possibilities of our unraveling in 30 years, he's really demonstrating how weak his mind is getting as he's getting older.
I'll turn to Fox News if I want to hear about the end of the world or live in fantasy land.
Aside from the fact that the company who is hosting the materials finds it necessary, other users of the site appreciate that you have to have an account to see their account details. As for a service provider, it gives them the opportunity to push for new members.
Mind you, if you are so broken that signing up is a pain for you, I'd imagine you wouldn't be a contributor, thus not really someone those networks care to please, as you won't ever be a generator of revenue for them.
Alright, this is my last reply to an AC. They are getting too stupid.
I am not going anywhere. I've got the best job in the world and have more sales in europe than here in the states, so almost all of my business exposure is europe and asia. That's really nice for folks who like to work in the early evening, completely avoiding the rat race feeling of 9-5.
Regardless, the escape was not working for a traded company. See, you think there's something different in the way big business runs here than it does in your neck of the woods, but amazingly, big business on this scale is relatively the same regardless of what part of the world you end up.
For instance, if you are working for ISS in one if their european offices, you are under the same upper management and held to the same policies regarding how YOU spend THEIR money on technology.
I still don't see what people fail to realize. It's so simple.
I agree. Spore is getting a lot of attention for no real reason, except that his house is in good with a few folks in the nerd media. Expect to see more artificially generated controversy, quotes, opinions, and lots of +5 Insightful / -1 Troll curves going back and forth as people get wrapped up in the hype.
So you'd be willing to risk your career's future over personal preferences. Doesn't really sound like something an AC would do. :)
Enjoy your phone monkey job.
Hey dingus, my company only has one Windows box. It runs under vmware ESX and is only used when, say, someone sends a document that bugs out in Open Office. I began using Linux exclusively as a desktop in 1996 to trial-by-fire my way into a administrator job I wasn't qualified for. It worked, and I got to miss out on years of WinME, XP, and now Vista. On the other hand, if you look through my other posts, you will see I've worked in Windows-exclusive shops. They were often this way because they were publically held companies. It sounds great to beat your chest on /. about what idiots you think you management is, but it's not your ass on the line for choosing a minority view on how a particular group of systems is run. When I say ass on the line, I mean it in a career-altering sense. If you screw up an investor's company and happened to change the IT end over to Linux, which is a minority way to do things, it'll be another thing on the list of reasons you failed to make them a return on their investment.
There can also be legal responsibility if things managed to not work out. We often forget that in large companies, there is almost always some level of internal sabotage taking place. Especially on projects where a lot of emotion and disagreements on both sides. In the end, it could look like a OS switch and other tech changes, were one of the primary reasons for failure.
This got me modded a troll the last time I said it, but I changed jobs over disliking microsoft products and began working for a company with BSD, Linux, OSX as the primary choices. The only Windows box is run under vmware ESX, and is only used for applications we just have to run Windows for on occasion.
Prior to changing jobs, I bitched and moaned non-stop about the insanity of every shop I had worked in since 2000, as they had all been forced into using primarily Windows on desktops and servers to emulate the steps the top earners in the field were doing. You can't blame them, really, because if they go against the grain, so to speak, and adopt a minority view of how big business is run, go through with it on the investor's dime, and fail, their ass is on the line, their entire future as a VP, Pres, Director, etc will forever be changed.
The guy sitting in the cube bashing his keyboard in over an IE crash tends not to thing of it this way, though it is often the reality and there's nothing a low-level is going to do to change it, aside from getting promoted up and then seeing if he has the gumption to risk his future on something that may, or may not, be the best fit for the IT as a whole.
Right, I'd get fired for saying it was wrong to come onto /. flaming upper management.
I can tell you like to just type what people want to see rather than point out the relatively obvious problem with disrespecting your fellow coworker, manager, etc by over-simplifying their reasons for making a decision.
Go ahead and do what Mr.+5 Insightful says. I won't be tossing change in your cup when you can't get a job due to always causing the shit to hit the fan with your managers over your personal feelings and not something actually written out in a way that makes business sense.
I think your social skills are one of the major limiting factors here.
If I was your management, and I saw the remarks you've made, I would make sure you were no longer at the company in a matter of days.
Why?
You run to
If you don't like where the shop is going technology-wise, then there's plenty of other shops that have exactly what you are looking for.
I've wondered many times why /. does not link directly to AP sourced articles. Why's Yahoo! getting tens of thousands of page hits on an article, generating all that revenue, for something they had no part in?
Submitters, please consider looking for alternative sources when linking AP, since you are really just giving money to the big empires you dislike so much.
I know, off-topic, but I think it's worth mentioning, unless you like just funneling hits to such abysmal, ugly, hellholes on the web like Yahoo when the same article has been linked on probably 10,000 other sites, most with good bandwidth, less intrusive advertisements, and a cleaner layout.
One could easily use the same logic to say that use of a secretary or executive assistant to do the things you don't have the time to deal with and still accomplish your primary objectives for the day.
I do think ChaCha is garbage, but I don't think it is cheating.
A final thought comes to mind that I didn't wedge in above: Today's students are a bit different than those of previous generations. I recall most students not having full-time jobs and getting far more than 4 hours of sleep a night between school/work/social activities back in my day. Anything to lessen the load and give a more accurate model of life in the professional world is a good thing.
Oh well, you better stop telling your overseas friends about your illegal activities then, right?
It's lovely to see all the posts about how our rights are getting shit on, when what? 52% of you americans voted this baboon into office again. Simply put, if you didn't want to eat turds for dinner, you shouldn't have ordered the flaming poo poo platter.
Let this be a long-lasting lesson about those patriotic feelings and letting fear fuel voting habits.
you guys sit around talking about card games so much that it requires an acronym now? lame.
Since Microsoft has shown they will drop price in response to piracy, I encourage everyone to pirate everything you can get your hands on. Spread it far and wide!
Why? Because we now have concrete evidence that software piracy drives DOWN the price of software!
How much could Microsoft actually have in Vista? Wasn't the bulk of it written by Indian coders for $3.70/hr like most software is nowadays anyway?
Who would be able to stop them?
A bullet? A jail term?
I fail to see the issue.
The attack to liberty you speak of is in these 'misdemeanor' offenses. If the laws were less crazy, then I could care less about how they manage to get enforced in public. I have a problem with the ACLU's angle since they have a tendency to "support criminals". They should be out protesting the insane web of laws that make us all criminals instead of going after enforcement technologies. This is why they will ultimately fail in the end.
Xbox Live Arcade titles are $5-$12 each. Many are new, quality titles with all the game play of something much more expensive.
Between Catan, Bomberman Live, and a number of other cheap titles makes me wonder exactly how much a Wii user saves after buying a couple of games for $50-60 each. I've got 34 cheap titles on my HDD, most online multiplayer or splitscreen+online for guests and rarely does myself or a guest find themselves without something to do on the console.
Then again, I really dislike most DVD mega-releases since I got my fill on FPS titles since Doom1 and really don't need/like the way FMV is used to fill in the gaps most of the time.
And it's only a rant because the flaw does not swing in Taco's favor.
Yeah, you are right. I was thinking sae took it from the tires, but it's the flywheel. There was a change in the 70s regarding this, but I don't recall the details obviously. Just 300hp car by one standard wasn't a 300hp car by the preceding one.
There have also been multiple revisions to the way the mpg is tested, so it's not very fair to compare door stickers.
You can make cars from the 60's-70's appear to have gobs more power per liter using old standards, too, which take the transmission, driveshaft, rear end, and tires out of the figures since power was measured at the crank and not the tires.