Oh come on...you obviously haven't heard that many indie bands, or you don't quite understand the meaning of an "indie band". Just because a band isn't signed to a major label does not mean they suck. Take a listen to any band on:
Matador
Kill Rock Stars
4AD (Please don't tell me you haven't heard the Pixies!)
Alternative Tentacles
K Records
Thrill Jockey
Epitaph
Arena Rock
Minty Fresh
Secretly Canadian
Kranky
Lookout
...and about 1000 other indie labels. And these are just the ones I can pull from memory. Just because you're cousin's band sucked, don't accuse every other non major label band of sucking. You are either very ill informed, or you just haven't taken the time to listen to music other than what ClearChannel or MTV is shoving down your throat.
"(Speaking of which, have you guys noticed a lot more women with Palms these days? I think the geek set is slowly 'handing them down' as they upgrade... women are a lot less picky.:)"
One of the things I've noticed here in New York City is that the new Palms (especially the new Clie's, for some reason) are a hot fashion item among young people, both men and women. I can't tell you how many groups of high school girls I've seen sitting around playing games on their fancy pants color screen PDA's. Necessary? Hardly, but it has become something of a trend.
Just curious -- do you live in the States, or somewhere else? I live in the US and so far haven't seen any copy protected CD's. (I buy mostly indie label music, tho). Just wondering if I should start to worry, because Massive Attack and Blur are CD's that I might actually buy sometime.....
Yeah...but I just noticed that the Cloudmark website has started announcing "Download Spamnet -- 30 days free!". I think that the client is going to be a pay service and it still doesn't work on Outlook Express. Time to upgrade to the server product, a little bait and switch?
I have to throw in my two cents about the Shure E2c's. They're amazing! They sound better than any earbud I've ever tried and make my iPod sound twice as good. I've gotten so tired of wearing bulky headphones to get the best sound from my iPod, the Shure's did the trick!
Definitely a vocoder on Cher's song. It was done intentially (and sounds like it), to cop the sound Snoop Doggy Dog, Bjork, and other artists were getting using the same effect.
Well, although I agree with you, I still buy CD's if only because they usually come with some sort of album art and other stuff inside. Take a look at Radiohead CD's sometime -- they have all sorts of fun stuff inside. Although, I have noticed that I've bought a lot more used records lately than CD's...
Another nice thing about studios is all of the cool audio equipment they have. Modern software and tools might be able to emulate a vintage amp or guitar, but they're still not to the point where they sound as good. All of that vintage equipment, the mic'ed room, etc., still can't be replicated on a laptop.
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Lots of indie music is recorded with the most basic equiment imaginable. Granted it's not mainstream, but that's not to say that it's not available. What about bands that play all of their own music? Have you heard of the White Stripes, or the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, or even Pete Galub? I'm not saying anything about their motives as far as money goes -- but all of their music has been recorded on vintage analog gear and sounds great. From what I hear, they're selling pretty well too.
I do buy a lot of CD's used, but I also buy a lot of indie music. Artists don't make any money from a used CD sale, so I buy their CD's at their shows and/or at full price at a record shop. At least I'm putting a few dollars in their pocket instead of in the RIAA coffers...
Just one note -- all of my MP3's are a minimum of 192 kbp/s and most are recorded with lame VBR -r3mix, and somehow I managed to fit more than 4000 mp3's on my 20 GB iPod. (not terribly short songs, either) Just to validate Apple's advertising to some extent.
Luckily, I only have 2 USB 2.0 devices, and they're both plugged directly into my 2.0 card. All of my USB 1.1 devices (printer, mouse, card reader) are plugged into an old USB hub that's plugged into the USB 1.1 port on my laptop. I can't wait until the day when all of those peripherals are all running on bluetooth or some other wireless protocol...
I don't think that would work very well for burning DVDs, and moving large files around would be just painful. I actually like the USB 2.0 card I've put in my laptop -- I know moving to firewire would be nice, but I'm just not crazy about the upgrade expense...
Thinking back to a year ago, I wish I had bought a firewire ext. hard drive, but it seemed like the PC Cards for USB 2.0 were cheaper. I have a laptop and my options for expansion were fairly limited -- I think I liked the fact that I could just bring my hard drive to work and plug it in to my USB port and pull everything off of it. Now I have an iPod and I have all the firewire ports so a firewire drive would have made sense...
All of my USB 2.0 devices have worked great, though and at a pretty decent speed -- no problems there.
It's about time the Macs support USB 2.0. Both my external 200 GB hard drive and my external DVD+RW use USB 2.0 and I have been putting off getting a Mac because of it. Now that I know I can hook these up to a Mac, maybe I'll think about it....
"or some shit"...did you follow up and find out why you didn't qualify for the rebate? Usually, larger retailers like Amazon are pretty good about that kind of thing.
You're forgetting the incredibly slick design. I tested all of the other HD mp3 players and found them (especially the Archos) to be lacking quite a bit. The ipod was easily my first and only choice...pulling together the $500 for it was the only problem.
I managed to fill up my 20 GB ipod the day I bought it. And there's lots more stuff on my hard drive that I'd love to take around on it -- too bad. I gotta get one of those Jack Osbourne 40 GB players.
Seriously, though -- if you listen to a lot of high quality MP3's, (r3mix encoded VBR), it's not too hard. I like the fact that I can throw it on random and not hear the same song for a week...
Just curious -- Windows Media only plays DVD's on my XP system after I install a DVD player with licensed codecs. I wasn't aware that it could play DVD's all by itself. Something about actually paying royalties for the MPEG2 codecs...
I always had trouble with BSD on the south side of my house. It was getting plenty of sun, but always turned brown and died within a few weeks. I could never figure out why, until one day I looked up and realized my son's bedroom window was on the second floor right above the garden. Turned out, he was peeing out the window!
I don't think the resolution of DVD would scale well to the big screen. From what I can imagine, these files are at least 20 - 30 GB in MPEG2 to look decent in a movie theater. Anyone have any information on the file size?
From what I understand, Microsoft's XML file formats do a decent bit of extending the format to the point where it becomes unusable without the proper interpreters...a bit of reverse engineering becomes necessary.
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Matador
Kill Rock Stars
4AD (Please don't tell me you haven't heard the Pixies!)
Alternative Tentacles
K Records
Thrill Jockey
Epitaph
Arena Rock
Minty Fresh
Secretly Canadian
Kranky
Lookout
...and about 1000 other indie labels. And these are just the ones I can pull from memory. Just because you're cousin's band sucked, don't accuse every other non major label band of sucking. You are either very ill informed, or you just haven't taken the time to listen to music other than what ClearChannel or MTV is shoving down your throat.
"(Speaking of which, have you guys noticed a lot more women with Palms these days? I think the geek set is slowly 'handing them down' as they upgrade... women are a lot less picky. :)"
One of the things I've noticed here in New York City is that the new Palms (especially the new Clie's, for some reason) are a hot fashion item among young people, both men and women. I can't tell you how many groups of high school girls I've seen sitting around playing games on their fancy pants color screen PDA's. Necessary? Hardly, but it has become something of a trend.
Just curious -- do you live in the States, or somewhere else? I live in the US and so far haven't seen any copy protected CD's. (I buy mostly indie label music, tho). Just wondering if I should start to worry, because Massive Attack and Blur are CD's that I might actually buy sometime.....
Yeah...but I just noticed that the Cloudmark website has started announcing "Download Spamnet -- 30 days free!". I think that the client is going to be a pay service and it still doesn't work on Outlook Express. Time to upgrade to the server product, a little bait and switch?
I have to throw in my two cents about the Shure E2c's. They're amazing! They sound better than any earbud I've ever tried and make my iPod sound twice as good. I've gotten so tired of wearing bulky headphones to get the best sound from my iPod, the Shure's did the trick!
Definitely a vocoder on Cher's song. It was done intentially (and sounds like it), to cop the sound Snoop Doggy Dog, Bjork, and other artists were getting using the same effect.
Well, although I agree with you, I still buy CD's if only because they usually come with some sort of album art and other stuff inside. Take a look at Radiohead CD's sometime -- they have all sorts of fun stuff inside. Although, I have noticed that I've bought a lot more used records lately than CD's...
Another nice thing about studios is all of the cool audio equipment they have. Modern software and tools might be able to emulate a vintage amp or guitar, but they're still not to the point where they sound as good. All of that vintage equipment, the mic'ed room, etc., still can't be replicated on a laptop.
Lots of indie music is recorded with the most basic equiment imaginable. Granted it's not mainstream, but that's not to say that it's not available. What about bands that play all of their own music? Have you heard of the White Stripes, or the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, or even Pete Galub? I'm not saying anything about their motives as far as money goes -- but all of their music has been recorded on vintage analog gear and sounds great. From what I hear, they're selling pretty well too.
Have you ever pressed 1,000,000 copies of a CD? From what I hear, it costs about 65 cents a copy...not free for sure, but bandwidth isn't either.
I do buy a lot of CD's used, but I also buy a lot of indie music. Artists don't make any money from a used CD sale, so I buy their CD's at their shows and/or at full price at a record shop. At least I'm putting a few dollars in their pocket instead of in the RIAA coffers...
Just one note -- all of my MP3's are a minimum of 192 kbp/s and most are recorded with lame VBR -r3mix, and somehow I managed to fit more than 4000 mp3's on my 20 GB iPod. (not terribly short songs, either) Just to validate Apple's advertising to some extent.
Probably true -- just like the old SCSI days...
Luckily, I only have 2 USB 2.0 devices, and they're both plugged directly into my 2.0 card. All of my USB 1.1 devices (printer, mouse, card reader) are plugged into an old USB hub that's plugged into the USB 1.1 port on my laptop. I can't wait until the day when all of those peripherals are all running on bluetooth or some other wireless protocol...
I don't think that would work very well for burning DVDs, and moving large files around would be just painful. I actually like the USB 2.0 card I've put in my laptop -- I know moving to firewire would be nice, but I'm just not crazy about the upgrade expense...
Yeah that works for an iMac, right? Oh yeah, no it doesn't. Not a lot of room internally for extra drives, eh?
Thinking back to a year ago, I wish I had bought a firewire ext. hard drive, but it seemed like the PC Cards for USB 2.0 were cheaper. I have a laptop and my options for expansion were fairly limited -- I think I liked the fact that I could just bring my hard drive to work and plug it in to my USB port and pull everything off of it. Now I have an iPod and I have all the firewire ports so a firewire drive would have made sense...
All of my USB 2.0 devices have worked great, though and at a pretty decent speed -- no problems there.
It's about time the Macs support USB 2.0. Both my external 200 GB hard drive and my external DVD+RW use USB 2.0 and I have been putting off getting a Mac because of it. Now that I know I can hook these up to a Mac, maybe I'll think about it....
"or some shit"...did you follow up and find out why you didn't qualify for the rebate? Usually, larger retailers like Amazon are pretty good about that kind of thing.
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You're forgetting the incredibly slick design. I tested all of the other HD mp3 players and found them (especially the Archos) to be lacking quite a bit. The ipod was easily my first and only choice...pulling together the $500 for it was the only problem.
I managed to fill up my 20 GB ipod the day I bought it. And there's lots more stuff on my hard drive that I'd love to take around on it -- too bad. I gotta get one of those Jack Osbourne 40 GB players.
Seriously, though -- if you listen to a lot of high quality MP3's, (r3mix encoded VBR), it's not too hard. I like the fact that I can throw it on random and not hear the same song for a week...
Just curious -- Windows Media only plays DVD's on my XP system after I install a DVD player with licensed codecs. I wasn't aware that it could play DVD's all by itself. Something about actually paying royalties for the MPEG2 codecs...
I always had trouble with BSD on the south side of my house. It was getting plenty of sun, but always turned brown and died within a few weeks. I could never figure out why, until one day I looked up and realized my son's bedroom window was on the second floor right above the garden. Turned out, he was peeing out the window!
I don't think the resolution of DVD would scale well to the big screen. From what I can imagine, these files are at least 20 - 30 GB in MPEG2 to look decent in a movie theater. Anyone have any information on the file size?
From what I understand, Microsoft's XML file formats do a decent bit of extending the format to the point where it becomes unusable without the proper interpreters...a bit of reverse engineering becomes necessary.