We seem to think that all of this great 'new' technology that we have has no social or historical reference with which to understand it in a broader scope.
Clearly not true given the apparent urge of slashdotters to compare technology with cars.
"Warning, this upgrade might break your favourite website including online banking, shopping, and especially pr0n"
It's already broke our webmail app (squirrelmail) running under https. I've had to advise the user (who installed it by accident) that they have to roll back to 6. I can duplicate it on my computer too. Seems to corrupt the URL or cookie with a random 8 digit hex value. There's possibly a fix but I haven't had time to investigate.
Oh, and my nomenclature may be slightly out. It's not really my field. Please forgive.
Also, even if the DLLS are "preloaded" (by whatever mechanism), they may still count against explorer's memory usage in task manager (I believe shared libraries do in top on Linux)
I think what NetAvenger is saying is that the DLLs are loaded separately and do not run in the same virtual address space. What others are saying is that "sure enough but the CPU will map the same physical memory to different virtual addresses using the COPY-ON-WRITE" feature and thus there is effective preloading".
NetAvenger then goes on to say that, no, this is not the case. But what he then says to back it up seems to just be what he said in the first place. He then talks about different DLL versions which is an entirely different situation since the actual data will be different and the CPU will load them into different physical address spaces.
Now, possibly NetAvenger means that Microsoft ensures that more than one copy of the DLL will be loaded into different physical address spaces and he may even be right (but why would that be the case?) but I think we need to clarify the argument before it progresses.
I guess the question has to go to NetAvenger: Do you understand the difference between virtual and physical address spaces and are you asserting that Microsoft ensures that the DLLS in question are loaded into different *physical* address spaces and please can you provide a link that backs that up as there seems to be no earthly reason why anyone would do so.
FWIW, I've noticed that leaving Slashdot pages open seems to cause memory leakage and, if left open long enough (4-5 days), Firefox or Mozilla will actually hang sometimes. If I see either using a lot of memory and close the slashdot pages, things will often become more reasonable pretty quickly.
That is the most insightful comment on this thread so far. The US only has control by convention. Sure, it may be nice if ICANN was international but there's nothing mandating that people use it for their DNS stuff.
A big part of the success? Linux uses nearly the same letters as Unix. Quite clearly it is supposed to be like Unix. Therefore it inherits a lot of the Unix cache. BSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD... The names don't evoke anything familiar. And what does BSD even stand for? Something fairly long and complex to remember, especially for C[EFA]Os... Linux is simply "Linus's Unix". It's all about the branding...
BSD needs to rename itself. Something with an X and an U in it. Ubix or something...
No, I believe that there are areas where I might very well be wrong and areas where reasonable men may differ. The Democrat flaw is believing that any difference is always because the other person is flat out wrong or deluded.
Take, for example, the Democrats, until recently, anti-gun stance. The reasons people are pro gun are very real and have a very logical basis yet the democrats continued to push an anti-gun agenda (despite even many of their own (like my state representative) being pro gun. When you do this stuff, you alienate people. [BTW, anyone who now proceeds to turn this into a pro/anti gun is retarded. I was just illustrating an area where the Democratic party advances a condescending and elitist attitude on a complex issue. There are several others]
It also discourages impeachment. If a president only has a year or two to go, impeachment is hardly worth the bother. If there was a real chance he might get reelected, it would encourage congress to attempt to stop him.
You're not wrong about the Republicans but you fall into the standard Democrat trap of believing that your ideals are correct and are merely misunderstood by the electorate and it's just a matter of bringing people around to your point of view. Democrats need to realise that several of the ideas they support *are* understood and simply rejected by the electorate. You guys need to start understanding *why* people reject certain of your positions and not simply assume it is to poor education or low intellectual capacity or other such condescending and, yes, elitist standpoints.
Perhaps by selling special media with a key pre-burned in that place where the CSS keys usually are (and can't be burned on normal blank media) and special burning software that will only decrypt and burn an encrypted image to DVDs that have been assigned to that DVD image online?
If you are in North America, the satellite will probable be between 35-45 degrees. If you live in a house, you should be able to get a clear view (we aimed ours over the house on a pole about 6' from the rear wall)
Clearly not true given the apparent urge of slashdotters to compare technology with cars.
Rich
Toyota's rep may be buoyed by Lexus even though they are listed separately.
In Soviet Microsoft it's
3)Profit
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1)90s dot-bomb business plan
Rich
It's already broke our webmail app (squirrelmail) running under https. I've had to advise the user (who installed it by accident) that they have to roll back to 6. I can duplicate it on my computer too. Seems to corrupt the URL or cookie with a random 8 digit hex value. There's possibly a fix but I haven't had time to investigate.
Rich
Oh, and my nomenclature may be slightly out. It's not really my field. Please forgive.
Also, even if the DLLS are "preloaded" (by whatever mechanism), they may still count against explorer's memory usage in task manager (I believe shared libraries do in top on Linux)
I think what NetAvenger is saying is that the DLLs are loaded separately and do not run in the same virtual address space. What others are saying is that "sure enough but the CPU will map the same physical memory to different virtual addresses using the COPY-ON-WRITE" feature and thus there is effective preloading".
NetAvenger then goes on to say that, no, this is not the case. But what he then says to back it up seems to just be what he said in the first place. He then talks about different DLL versions which is an entirely different situation since the actual data will be different and the CPU will load them into different physical address spaces.
Now, possibly NetAvenger means that Microsoft ensures that more than one copy of the DLL will be loaded into different physical address spaces and he may even be right (but why would that be the case?) but I think we need to clarify the argument before it progresses.
I guess the question has to go to NetAvenger: Do you understand the difference between virtual and physical address spaces and are you asserting that Microsoft ensures that the DLLS in question are loaded into different *physical* address spaces and please can you provide a link that backs that up as there seems to be no earthly reason why anyone would do so.
Thanks
Rich
FWIW, I've noticed that leaving Slashdot pages open seems to cause memory leakage and, if left open long enough (4-5 days), Firefox or Mozilla will actually hang sometimes. If I see either using a lot of memory and close the slashdot pages, things will often become more reasonable pretty quickly.
Rich
OK, now you're trolling...
Rich
Note that this is also why "Linux" and not "GNU-Linux" or other encumberances.
Rich
That is the most insightful comment on this thread so far. The US only has control by convention. Sure, it may be nice if ICANN was international but there's nothing mandating that people use it for their DNS stuff.
A big part of the success? Linux uses nearly the same letters as Unix. Quite clearly it is supposed to be like Unix. Therefore it inherits a lot of the Unix cache. BSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD... The names don't evoke anything familiar. And what does BSD even stand for? Something fairly long and complex to remember, especially for C[EFA]Os... Linux is simply "Linus's Unix". It's all about the branding...
BSD needs to rename itself. Something with an X and an U in it. Ubix or something...
Rich
This is actually the first time I've heard of it ever. Must be an American thing. Though my wife never mentioned it when we played either.
No, the whole " 'M$'? That's so last Tuesday." is the immature attitude.
Rich
No, I believe that there are areas where I might very well be wrong and areas where reasonable men may differ. The Democrat flaw is believing that any difference is always because the other person is flat out wrong or deluded.
Take, for example, the Democrats, until recently, anti-gun stance. The reasons people are pro gun are very real and have a very logical basis yet the democrats continued to push an anti-gun agenda (despite even many of their own (like my state representative) being pro gun. When you do this stuff, you alienate people. [BTW, anyone who now proceeds to turn this into a pro/anti gun is retarded. I was just illustrating an area where the Democratic party advances a condescending and elitist attitude on a complex issue. There are several others]
Rich
It also discourages impeachment. If a president only has a year or two to go, impeachment is hardly worth the bother. If there was a real chance he might get reelected, it would encourage congress to attempt to stop him.
You're not wrong about the Republicans but you fall into the standard Democrat trap of believing that your ideals are correct and are merely misunderstood by the electorate and it's just a matter of bringing people around to your point of view. Democrats need to realise that several of the ideas they support *are* understood and simply rejected by the electorate. You guys need to start understanding *why* people reject certain of your positions and not simply assume it is to poor education or low intellectual capacity or other such condescending and, yes, elitist standpoints.
Yup. That's exactly how I see it.
Pft. I just let my DVDs play to the end and the player rewinds them automatically.
Rich
Perhaps by selling special media with a key pre-burned in that place where the CSS keys usually are (and can't be burned on normal blank media) and special burning software that will only decrypt and burn an encrypted image to DVDs that have been assigned to that DVD image online?
Rich
The point is not to have the AM/FM and CDs built in (OK, it's not that good a point :) ).
The mp3 CD player I have in my car was $80. It has its faults but it's pretty good for what it is.
Rich
If you are in North America, the satellite will probable be between 35-45 degrees. If you live in a house, you should be able to get a clear view (we aimed ours over the house on a pole about 6' from the rear wall)
Alternatively, chainsaws are a lot of fun.
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Not completely though or you'd have added in the bit where he forgets to take it back and gets a late fee too.
Bank charges when checks start bouncing are more than a minor inconvenience.
It would use far less paint to simply forget the WLAN and paint ethernet cables :D
Rich
Indeed. And it gets worse. Here in Tennessee, one of the prizes you could win in the govt run lottery was a trip to Las Vegas
And gambling is outlawed here why exactly?
Rich