How is it not selfish to stand there and watch someone you love suffer to such extreme degrees that they no longer see effective living solutions as even possible and then NOT want them to do anything about it because "you'll miss them." or you feel like "you need them." Fuck they're feelings and suffering, they should go on living under extreme stress and suffering just for me!
Selfishness is always selfish in both directions, it depends purely on the perspective one chooses to see it with.
Is a battered woman selfish for leaving her husband who needs her? Where do you draw the line?
My life, my choice, and no matter how much you think you understand, the truth is you don't get to know what it's like and I can't explain it to you...you'll never know...you are not me...it is impossible for you to know what it's like.
I myself was a moderate video game player during the time period when this article was published, but Never heard of it. I would vote for deletion.
OMM is not a game, you being a "moderate video game player" gives you no credence regarding the topic at hand. If you were a "moderate reader" who followed game news and online review sites at the time (when there were virtually none) then your argument might have some credibility. Regardless of that, if you were still one today your likelihood of having heard of OMM would increase notably due to the many, many, many times the sites impact has been referenced by game designers, other review sites, and game critics over the past 12 years.
when viewed as "incrementing" you are applying an abstract mathematical idea to what you are seeing. The very fact that the individual protons are distinguishable from one another means you in fact aren't "incrementing" within the natural world...you are applying an abstract concept in order to generalize the action occurring, the reason why you do this is so you can then develop an abstract (a highly useful one) understanding of the relationship....but it's all applied maths, it doesn't happen innately within the world...you are the one saying the protons are all exactly alike and therefore are being incremented. Nature makes no such statements, it's just physical things that happen.
What OP is talking about is that maths has to be applied to the world, it does not exist "within" the world.
"None" refers to something that doesn't exist, which means as OP says "there is no analog of it in the natural world." It is a concept that is applied to the world by humans abstractly. You can't physically show me the "no apples you have today."
Your example of the doors where you live is applied abstractly by you in order to generate a relationship among the doors for you to understand...but that relationship is not physical, it is abstracted, it does not exist within the real world.
All of this always makes me think of an article that ran a few years back (not on slashdot) that was interviewing several people who had managed to defect/escape from NK into China and other places. These were average citizens...
One of them told how her job was to collect the pamphlets that were dropped by US planes, and how she feels so incredibly foolish now, because she and all of her coworkers had to use sharpened sticks to pick them up. They did this because they had been told that the US pamphlets which espoused democracy and freedom were covered in some kind of an acidic solution that would eat away their skin if they touched them.
She acknowledged how (in the light of having escaped and seen the world around her for the first time in a more impartial manner) very silly it was to believe such a thing, but reiterated that everyone who worked with her truly believed this to be true.
This sort of thing makes me very nervous about the idea of invading North Korea. The people are so incredibly ignorant of the world around them and we know so little about them besides the fact that they're not well educated and starving, that it seems dangerously possible that going to war with them would mean going to war with an entire country of zealots...this does not seem like a good option.
The issue at hand in regards to the "how it was made" point isn't so much that things are being done in CGI, but that the CGI being used in the film is detrimental to the final product. If it is clear to a viewer that the room or world or environment is patently false due to not quite looking right, the ability to suspend disbelief suffers, which may or may not be a big problem depending on the specific film and how it is delivering its material.
Much more importantly as we see in the Star Wars prequels, making an entirely CGI environment often results in extremely forced and wooden performances from actors, this is why the 'real' motorcycle chase will impress OP over a blue screen one...there is an inherent realistic quality that is not yet present in CGI...a realism that can make even instinctual impulsive reactions to the film and/or scene much stronger.
The issue I think OP is really arguing, which is something I would be in agreement with is that CGI is fine for a great deal of things, but ultimately when filmmakers are "settling" for CGI instead of investing the time and money into something of a higher caliber and calling CGI 'good enough' many viewers are disappointed because it is clear when watching the film that what it might have been has so much more potential.
To borrow your analogy regarding art pieces it's as though you are at a gallery of pieces where even as a layman you can tell the artist cut corners in order to get a piece completed rather than making choices that support the integrity of the work. You are effectively seeing a LOT of bad art while being told by the media that it's the next greatest thing and you should spend your money on it.
or to put it in other words...someone is shitting in your mouth and calling it a sundae.
In a series of films about an archaeologist who fights Nazis, Thuggee cultists, and Soviet psychics, and keeps unleashing vast supernatural powers stored in antiques, the monkeys are what struck you as implausible?
Yes. All of the previous things (except the soviet psychic, but that goes along with the following point) you bring up are part of the canon that is presented and expected within this genre of dramatic events. The monkeys break with the expected and previously well-established rules of the storytelling environment presented by the previous three films as well as the entire 4th film leading up to this event.
The monkeys are no less absurd than if in the middle of The Return of The King, Bilbo suddenly out of the blue descended from an Elven spaceship and saved everyone by pouring hot coffee on Sauron's head.
It enables further promotion of bigotry against Jews, Homosexuals, and other groups. If you claim it didn't happen then you can much more easily glorify Hitler and the NAZI party...the funny thing is that this is done primarily (in the US at least) by people who really don't know much at all about Hitler or the NAZI's.
It also allows an argument that "evil Jews have completely character assassinated poor Hitler with this Holocaust nonsense and that's why they should be killed."
In my somewhat limited experience, it's a white man's version of "the man is keeping me down" which is used as a call to arms.
too bad AC missed the part where OP mentioned having bought the book from the second hand store.
He didn't say he peruses them and then goes home and buys the ones that interested him on Amazon Marketplace. He said he goes to the bookstore to look at books he normally wouldn't bother with online, to find new and interesting things (and purchase them from the bookstore)...then often times if said book has a sequel or he enjoyed the author he will buy others from amazon...he just worded it badly, but if you go re-read it, you'll see it's there.
I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just trying to understand what I've missed. There aren't any NMs and there's no PvP...are you really having that much of a hard time with kill stealing?
or are you just talking about the game not running very well because of it?
I'm not saying the AH isn't an issue, just that it isn't one that concerned me terribly, I have no doubt that even if square wasn't planning to keep working with their current market system in hopes to replace the AH idea that players would work out a way to handle the situation.
The fact that people are still arguing about whether or not an AH is necessary (there are people in both camps), and that square is trying to find a new method shows me that this overall is a mild point...it is being worked on and developed and players are being asked to try new things...as I said before I have no problem with trying new things.
If my major disappointment in a game was that it's difficult to find the right things to buy or to get my stuff sold...to me that's not much of a complaint for a game unless I'm playing some kind of stock market simulator...it's just an annoyance that could be willingly overlooked and dealt with if a game has sufficiently interesting content otherwise...and I definitely trust in the ingenuity of players to come up with their own bizarre bazarr systems when the in game one doesn't work (which it does, but it needs some reworking...which it is getting).
The UI is not 'unusable,' if it were you wouldn't have so many complaints about the game as you would not have been able to play it. Whether you particularly care for it or not is another issue entirely. See my above point...I don't mind trying new things, (or old things for that matter in the case of much of the UI). I do agree that the lag is frustrating, but for the most part I found it to be minimal, with once in a while irritating hiccups that would likely be ironed out over time.
It is nice to see that ultimately we agree though on the big problem...no actual game content. Every major issue people bitch about besides this has the potential to be "worth putting up with" if the game had any game in it yet.
As a long time player of FFXI, as well as several other MMORPGs, my feelings were that a lot of the highly negative reviews were really harping on subjects that for the most part were irrelevant. That being said there is a LOT of work necessary to get this game going. I was about to cancel my subscription and wait 6 months and see where they were at.
AH, Interface issues, Repeating terrain graphics are all things that actually didn't matter much to me. I don't mind having to learn a new way of doing things for a new game. What got me frustrated quickly was that the world seemed to have no content.
One of the things I like about FF games is that when you're in a large city it tends to be well-developed, with lots of weird little quests among various townsfolk, and lots of hints about up and coming content that you won't see for hours, levels, or even at all depending on how you play. None of that is present in the game currently. Every step of the one major town quest (which is a chainquest) feels like a tutorial exercise (which it is of course)...not like environment deepening material.
The world is simply not alive enough. If you run around outside there are few monsters...no killer bunnies...95% of the mobs are instantly generated for a specific person's grind-quest and aren't attackable by anyone else.
I love FFXI, I love slow worldly feeling MMOs and regular RPGs, but at this point the game is a series of grindy-quests that you pick and choose at with no end-goal in sight...there is one story-arc quest line that gives you very little and reoccurs in your progression extremely infrequently.
At the moment the game feels like they got their basic systems down, but they've got nothing actually in the game that's game-like yet.
riiiiight....cause no Mac machine has ever had a manufacturing flaw, or problems related to cost-cutting measures. All the other machines fail at least 5 times a year and the Mac computers run flawlessly.
Nobody ever has to bring their Macbook to the Apple store because of optical drive failures, broken internal video cables, or hard drive failures. Gosh, Apple's NEVER been on the ass-end of a class action lawsuit for not supporting their hardware flaws and pretending they don't exist!
It's only those guys who buy cheap PC hardware who have to hang out with the Geek Squad all day or week.
Only Windows 7 barfs and never MacOS, that's why They took FORCE QUIT off the main drop down menu right? (Oh wait....hey!)
This is the kind of complete hyperbolic drivel that makes people who actually work with a wide variety of computers on a daily basis hate Mac fanboys.
I wish there were a planet that actually existed that was as beautiful as the one you fantasize that you live in...it'd be nice for me as an IT worker to have such an easier job where we could all get Macs and save fortunes and hours of time because they're perfect.
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I'm not saying Democrats are likable...but I will say that republicans aren't.
I'm just throwing that out there.
no
4th ed D&D combat. The DM is no longer playing a game, he is following a wow-script.
when it stops looking like parallax 2D
How is it not selfish to stand there and watch someone you love suffer to such extreme degrees that they no longer see effective living solutions as even possible and then NOT want them to do anything about it because "you'll miss them." or you feel like "you need them." Fuck they're feelings and suffering, they should go on living under extreme stress and suffering just for me!
Selfishness is always selfish in both directions, it depends purely on the perspective one chooses to see it with.
Is a battered woman selfish for leaving her husband who needs her? Where do you draw the line?
My life, my choice, and no matter how much you think you understand, the truth is you don't get to know what it's like and I can't explain it to you...you'll never know...you are not me...it is impossible for you to know what it's like.
I myself was a moderate video game player during the time period when this article was published, but Never heard of it. I would vote for deletion.
OMM is not a game, you being a "moderate video game player" gives you no credence regarding the topic at hand. If you were a "moderate reader" who followed game news and online review sites at the time (when there were virtually none) then your argument might have some credibility. Regardless of that, if you were still one today your likelihood of having heard of OMM would increase notably due to the many, many, many times the sites impact has been referenced by game designers, other review sites, and game critics over the past 12 years.
when viewed as "incrementing" you are applying an abstract mathematical idea to what you are seeing. The very fact that the individual protons are distinguishable from one another means you in fact aren't "incrementing" within the natural world...you are applying an abstract concept in order to generalize the action occurring, the reason why you do this is so you can then develop an abstract (a highly useful one) understanding of the relationship....but it's all applied maths, it doesn't happen innately within the world...you are the one saying the protons are all exactly alike and therefore are being incremented. Nature makes no such statements, it's just physical things that happen.
What OP is talking about is that maths has to be applied to the world, it does not exist "within" the world.
"None" refers to something that doesn't exist, which means as OP says "there is no analog of it in the natural world." It is a concept that is applied to the world by humans abstractly. You can't physically show me the "no apples you have today."
Your example of the doors where you live is applied abstractly by you in order to generate a relationship among the doors for you to understand...but that relationship is not physical, it is abstracted, it does not exist within the real world.
umm...the entire Cyberpunk genre perhaps??????
We shall obtain the Arctic oil
We shall arrange the blocks and toil
forever and a day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8
Did anyone else read this and think of Edina Monsoon in court?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUosm_BBv9g
It tells you nothing about the ONE UNCHANGED FUCKING VARIABLE...
Not very good at the pre-algebra are we?
Here's a hint, x+y
All of this always makes me think of an article that ran a few years back (not on slashdot) that was interviewing several people who had managed to defect/escape from NK into China and other places. These were average citizens...
One of them told how her job was to collect the pamphlets that were dropped by US planes, and how she feels so incredibly foolish now, because she and all of her coworkers had to use sharpened sticks to pick them up. They did this because they had been told that the US pamphlets which espoused democracy and freedom were covered in some kind of an acidic solution that would eat away their skin if they touched them.
She acknowledged how (in the light of having escaped and seen the world around her for the first time in a more impartial manner) very silly it was to believe such a thing, but reiterated that everyone who worked with her truly believed this to be true.
This sort of thing makes me very nervous about the idea of invading North Korea. The people are so incredibly ignorant of the world around them and we know so little about them besides the fact that they're not well educated and starving, that it seems dangerously possible that going to war with them would mean going to war with an entire country of zealots...this does not seem like a good option.
The issue at hand in regards to the "how it was made" point isn't so much that things are being done in CGI, but that the CGI being used in the film is detrimental to the final product. If it is clear to a viewer that the room or world or environment is patently false due to not quite looking right, the ability to suspend disbelief suffers, which may or may not be a big problem depending on the specific film and how it is delivering its material.
Much more importantly as we see in the Star Wars prequels, making an entirely CGI environment often results in extremely forced and wooden performances from actors, this is why the 'real' motorcycle chase will impress OP over a blue screen one...there is an inherent realistic quality that is not yet present in CGI...a realism that can make even instinctual impulsive reactions to the film and/or scene much stronger.
The issue I think OP is really arguing, which is something I would be in agreement with is that CGI is fine for a great deal of things, but ultimately when filmmakers are "settling" for CGI instead of investing the time and money into something of a higher caliber and calling CGI 'good enough' many viewers are disappointed because it is clear when watching the film that what it might have been has so much more potential.
To borrow your analogy regarding art pieces it's as though you are at a gallery of pieces where even as a layman you can tell the artist cut corners in order to get a piece completed rather than making choices that support the integrity of the work. You are effectively seeing a LOT of bad art while being told by the media that it's the next greatest thing and you should spend your money on it.
or to put it in other words...someone is shitting in your mouth and calling it a sundae.
In a series of films about an archaeologist who fights Nazis, Thuggee cultists, and Soviet psychics, and keeps unleashing vast supernatural powers stored in antiques, the monkeys are what struck you as implausible?
Yes. All of the previous things (except the soviet psychic, but that goes along with the following point) you bring up are part of the canon that is presented and expected within this genre of dramatic events. The monkeys break with the expected and previously well-established rules of the storytelling environment presented by the previous three films as well as the entire 4th film leading up to this event.
The monkeys are no less absurd than if in the middle of The Return of The King, Bilbo suddenly out of the blue descended from an Elven spaceship and saved everyone by pouring hot coffee on Sauron's head.
So what by your definition is it that actors do in film if they aren't performing?
Well put!
I raise my foot growth to you in a toast good sir!
This is the US most of us don't get insurance.
It enables further promotion of bigotry against Jews, Homosexuals, and other groups. If you claim it didn't happen then you can much more easily glorify Hitler and the NAZI party...the funny thing is that this is done primarily (in the US at least) by people who really don't know much at all about Hitler or the NAZI's.
It also allows an argument that "evil Jews have completely character assassinated poor Hitler with this Holocaust nonsense and that's why they should be killed."
In my somewhat limited experience, it's a white man's version of "the man is keeping me down" which is used as a call to arms.
That sounds like fun! I want a random book grab-bag lottery!
too bad AC missed the part where OP mentioned having bought the book from the second hand store.
He didn't say he peruses them and then goes home and buys the ones that interested him on Amazon Marketplace. He said he goes to the bookstore to look at books he normally wouldn't bother with online, to find new and interesting things (and purchase them from the bookstore)...then often times if said book has a sequel or he enjoyed the author he will buy others from amazon...he just worded it badly, but if you go re-read it, you'll see it's there.
I understand UI lag (game runs like crap, I'm well aware), I'm trying to understand "disadvantage."
disadvantage for what exactly?
I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just trying to understand what I've missed. There aren't any NMs and there's no PvP...are you really having that much of a hard time with kill stealing?
or are you just talking about the game not running very well because of it?
I'm not saying the AH isn't an issue, just that it isn't one that concerned me terribly, I have no doubt that even if square wasn't planning to keep working with their current market system in hopes to replace the AH idea that players would work out a way to handle the situation.
The fact that people are still arguing about whether or not an AH is necessary (there are people in both camps), and that square is trying to find a new method shows me that this overall is a mild point...it is being worked on and developed and players are being asked to try new things...as I said before I have no problem with trying new things.
If my major disappointment in a game was that it's difficult to find the right things to buy or to get my stuff sold...to me that's not much of a complaint for a game unless I'm playing some kind of stock market simulator...it's just an annoyance that could be willingly overlooked and dealt with if a game has sufficiently interesting content otherwise...and I definitely trust in the ingenuity of players to come up with their own bizarre bazarr systems when the in game one doesn't work (which it does, but it needs some reworking...which it is getting).
The UI is not 'unusable,' if it were you wouldn't have so many complaints about the game as you would not have been able to play it. Whether you particularly care for it or not is another issue entirely. See my above point...I don't mind trying new things, (or old things for that matter in the case of much of the UI). I do agree that the lag is frustrating, but for the most part I found it to be minimal, with once in a while irritating hiccups that would likely be ironed out over time.
It is nice to see that ultimately we agree though on the big problem...no actual game content. Every major issue people bitch about besides this has the potential to be "worth putting up with" if the game had any game in it yet.
As a long time player of FFXI, as well as several other MMORPGs, my feelings were that a lot of the highly negative reviews were really harping on subjects that for the most part were irrelevant. That being said there is a LOT of work necessary to get this game going. I was about to cancel my subscription and wait 6 months and see where they were at.
AH, Interface issues, Repeating terrain graphics are all things that actually didn't matter much to me. I don't mind having to learn a new way of doing things for a new game. What got me frustrated quickly was that the world seemed to have no content.
One of the things I like about FF games is that when you're in a large city it tends to be well-developed, with lots of weird little quests among various townsfolk, and lots of hints about up and coming content that you won't see for hours, levels, or even at all depending on how you play. None of that is present in the game currently. Every step of the one major town quest (which is a chainquest) feels like a tutorial exercise (which it is of course)...not like environment deepening material.
The world is simply not alive enough. If you run around outside there are few monsters...no killer bunnies...95% of the mobs are instantly generated for a specific person's grind-quest and aren't attackable by anyone else.
I love FFXI, I love slow worldly feeling MMOs and regular RPGs, but at this point the game is a series of grindy-quests that you pick and choose at with no end-goal in sight...there is one story-arc quest line that gives you very little and reoccurs in your progression extremely infrequently.
At the moment the game feels like they got their basic systems down, but they've got nothing actually in the game that's game-like yet.
Hot older chicks who sleep with young boys don't get into trouble.
It's Shotacat they have to worry about.
riiiiight....cause no Mac machine has ever had a manufacturing flaw, or problems related to cost-cutting measures. All the other machines fail at least 5 times a year and the Mac computers run flawlessly.
Nobody ever has to bring their Macbook to the Apple store because of optical drive failures, broken internal video cables, or hard drive failures. Gosh, Apple's NEVER been on the ass-end of a class action lawsuit for not supporting their hardware flaws and pretending they don't exist!
It's only those guys who buy cheap PC hardware who have to hang out with the Geek Squad all day or week.
Only Windows 7 barfs and never MacOS, that's why They took FORCE QUIT off the main drop down menu right? (Oh wait....hey!)
This is the kind of complete hyperbolic drivel that makes people who actually work with a wide variety of computers on a daily basis hate Mac fanboys.
I wish there were a planet that actually existed that was as beautiful as the one you fantasize that you live in...it'd be nice for me as an IT worker to have such an easier job where we could all get Macs and save fortunes and hours of time because they're perfect.