Come to think of it, why was there a halt in/bin? I mean, that's where I found it, and it was owned by root, 700. But, still. I dunno, that machine had been patched and fixed and duct taped so many times.... But, come on, shouldn't halt have only been in/sbin? Why on earth were there two?
One: Somehow, I don't know how, I accidentally deleted/dev/random. This was our main NFS and NIS+ server. The whole network went tits up about 10 seconds later. Still don't know exactly what happened that depended on random being there.
Two: Not wanting to accidentally halt the machine without really meaning it, I moved the halt command to halt.ireallymeanit. I then replaced halt with a small shell script that echoed "You don't want to halt this machine" (sleep a few seconds) "If you do, type halt.ireallymeanit" (sleep a few seconds) exit.
Then, to test it, I type halt. Without (duh) first typing which halt to make sure there wasn't a halt command before the/bin/halt that I had replaced with a shell script (oops,/sbin is before/bin in the $PATH). Oh, this was also while we were figuring out a couple of problems and had hacked together a NFS/NIS fix, which required that our main server (that machine) be booted up to the point that it was serving NFS, then the NIS server be booted up while the main server was timing out waiting on some authorization thing to continue its boot sequence. Of course, the NIS server wouldn't boot without the NFS server being up. It was a big mess that we eventually got sorted.
Needless to say, it's not Solaris' fault, but somehow I always managed to screw up that OS without meaning to, so I have developed a healthy fear and loathing for it. I'd like to think I've grown up a bit since then - this has been like 3 or 4 years now, and I've learned a helluvalot since then.
# Even if she were underage in the photo, and were obviously drinking alcohol, what's that have to do with anything? If you're under the illusion that every teacher in your child's school never touched a drop of alcohol until they were 21, you're deluded, quite dangerously so.
Yes. This. Exactly this.
It's like assuming your grandparents didn't do the baloney mambo. Get over it, man. Everyone has done everything.
Which actually sucks, because I had just got done training my dad to log into his webhosting account with ftp://domain.com and to type in his password in the pop-up, and then to drag-and-drop his files in order to upload them (mostly pictures he takes of my kid, in the form of "look at my grandkid").
I had to wait until I could get back to my parents' house to install a real FTP client, and then train him on using FileZilla, after he installed IE7. I had also trained him to install microsoft updates when he goes to bed at night (they use AOL and are in the country, so they connect at 33600 at the best). He's a good guy and he means well. I don't really see what microsoft gains from this. I mean, heck, even I have my bookmark for totalfark in firefox set to http://totalfark.com./
The top 10% will always pay a higher percentage of their taxable income (note I said PERCENTAGE, not AMOUNT) than the bottom 90% will. It's a mathematical certainty. Of course, under a truly fair system, everyone would pay the same percentage of their income in taxes, but we have a graduated tax system, so the top 10% pay a higher percentage of their income than anyone else.
Aaaah, the flat tax. This is the worst idea, ever.
Let's take three families of four and a 20% flat tax.
Family one lives comfortably, one spouse pulls in $50,000/yr gross, and the other pulls in $80,000/yr gross. On that $130,000 that they make per year, they're expected to pay (say for example) $26,000 in taxes. This leaves their net around $104,000, leaving them plenty of money to pay their $2500/month mortgage and two $600/month car payments, as well as put a little aside for college. That $26,000 would have been nice to have this year, but everyone's got to pay taxes, so they'll put off that addition to the house another year.
Family two lives very richly, one spouse is a top executive and pulls in $800,000 a year with his bonuses, while the other stays home and watches TLC. That $800,000 means at 20% their tax burden is a hefty $160,000, leaving them a respectible net of $640,000/yr. This gives them plenty of money to have both a maid and a cook, as well as several nice european cars, and send both kids to private school. That $160,000 would have been nice to have this year, but everyone's got to pay taxes, so they'll put off that new yacht cruiser for the beach house for another year.
Family three lives at the poverty level. Both spouses work minimum wage jobs, but each only has one job because they want to be home with their kids at night. Between the two of them, they manage to pull in $21,000/yr. Most of their money goes to rent, and if the car breaks down one more time, they don't know what they're going to do. Their tax burden is $4,200, or a little less than $200/month, leaving them a net income of $16,800. With that $200 a month, they might have been able to afford health insurance, or a reliable car to get them too and from work, they might have been able to move out of public housing and into a better neighborhood. That $4200 to them would have been - possibly literally - a lifesaver.
When you hear someone propose a flat tax, it seems so obvious that there's no reason it shouldn't be done. But when you look at a flat tax, it always benefits the rich. Always. Why? Right now the rich pay more taxes.... because they have the means to do so.
Society is not measured by the wealthiest of individuals, but by the poorest.
As to the warrentless searching of a car... In the US at least, this is all a moot point if you're a teenager. Despite that a lot of teenagers I know, especially ones who are in their final year of high school and are taking "US Government", probably know as much about the law as many cops, being a teenager is proof of guilt.
Case in point: I have a friend who has never in his life smoked a cigarette, done a drug, and the only alcohol he's consumed is when he visited an exchange student in Estonia (appearantly, said exchange student's uncle's thought it was funny to make the American toast the old Soviet Republic and drink Vodka). He is now 27.
When he was 16, he drove a wee little nissan, had long hair, and was in a punk band. He got pulled over on suspicion of being a teenager (as best he could tell, they never did tell him), and they asked to search his car. He said "No way, I know my rights, if you don't have a warrant, you can't search". Know what the cops told him? The fact that he didn't want his car searched was enough suspicion to get probable cause to secure a warrent, and that he'd have to sit on the road side with the cops for 45 minutes while they made out a warrent and got it authorized before he could leave.
Welcome to the land of if you're young, you're fucked.
Um, dude, not everyone is in the market for "competitive MIPS/Watt" quad core servers. Most of us just want a fast desktop so we can play counterstrike.
Well, it is cyclical, but it wasn't too smart in my opinion to buy a some-what floundering video card company right before the cycle beat the crap out of them with the core 2 duo.
I mean, I'm a huge fan of AMD chips, but if I were in the market right now, Intel is the only game in town. Let's hope it swings back before they run out of cash.
You are exactly right. It brings up something I've observed...
My step daughter is taking a class in biology. The first quiz is a bit of a doozy when tasked against my own knowledge, but it did bring out an aspect of this story. Today's kids are tasked with finding answers in what equates to an ocean of information compared to what was available when I was in school. Plagiarism is not good, but in this 'ocean of information' it is difficult to know what that really is. When studying, an answer from wikipedia is as good as one from another paper available on the Internet.
I think it leads to lax standards as to where the answer came from when the point is to find the answer. Term papers and those efforts required of students that require actual personal thought and effort are not dead, they simply need to be pressed with more effort. Finding information is no longer the problem that it used to be. Expressing your own thoughts on the question at hand is a skill that many people never learn, never mind figure out how to express when they are 18-ish.
It is problematic to discuss things in a black and white manner as this story seems to. The issue is not plagiarism or term papers, it is expression of thought, and that is what is endangered most by the 'ocean of information' that is now available to us all.
I mean, doesn't the claim have to be made by the party who is being harmed (allegedly)? I can't sue youtube for infringing on CBS's copyright claims, right? Because I am not an interested or harmed party.
Because they're required by law to. A DMCA takedown request is basically a statement, made under penalty of perjury, that the information is correct.
Yeah, but when I was into webhosting, every DMCA letter we got also stated that the person contacting us, under penalty of perjury, was affirming that they were either the copyright holder, or a legal representative thereof.
I mean, if I email youtube and say "Take down that clip of the Morning Show, I swear that it is the property of CBS"... I don't think it holds water. I think only the copyright holder or a legal representative has standing to contest it.
I am not a lawyer, and I know there are a few out there on slashdot, could one of them comment? Who has legal standings to proceed in civil matters?
I'm happily married with a 3 year old kid. We lived together for 3 years before we got married. We have a good sex life. It's not porn star but it's fulfilling.
At this point it's more of an in-joke than an actual lamenting of our lonely state. There's a canonical geek out there we all think of fondly, and perhaps we even were that guy at some point, even if we've grown out of it now. Slashdot is much more diversified than it used to be. And the fact that it has become slightly more socially acceptable to be geeky lately.
But aside from that, I'm sure that a lot of women have fallen for slashdot readers precisely because we do have a few things going for us.
1.) We don't think we are god's gift to women, or that we would totally rock if we were on MTV'sTheGrind or whatever. Despite the shortcomings this implies, this means that typically the geek will make a better lover than the frat boy, because he's actually looking for the response from his lover. In short, geeks try harder, and frat boys don't think they have to try at all.
2.) We masturbate. Say what you want, but masturbation is a GOOD THING. The way to become a more effective lover is PRACTICE. And people who masturbate know what gets them off. Just like it's dangerous to assume that being in a relationship with a (member of the preferred sex) will make you a whole person, you shouldn't go into a sexual relationship with the expectations that movies and TV give us. The secret to a good sex life? Non-interdependence.
It goes well beyond a few BPO's. And everyone's a little extra pissy because BoB has historically been very snarky and judgemental towards pretty much everyone else. No one doubted that they're some smart, experienced players with lots of resources, but they didn't need to be such douche bags about it. Doubly so because they've had some unfair help (whether they needed it or not), and at least their leadership knew about it. Oh, definately agreed.
I haven't seen any evidence that they got any more help from T20 / CCP than the blueprints, but having one scandal come to light certainly means there could be others.
All I was saying is that I still see tons of outrage at BoB over this, but I see not nearly enough outrage at the asshole who hacked forums and databases to get private convos and IP addresses. That guy is a true douchebag. The ends don't justify illegal means, sorry.
And then, the guy outed The Enslaver, who I have actually flown with and been on Teamspeak with. That dude is a standup guy, and he knows more about eve than pretty much anyone else in the game - which is why he got offered a position once he graduated high school. He didn't do anything wrong, and outing him as a GM was another douchebag move.
Whether or not it should have come to light that BoB cheated, I think that guy who did the hacking and exposure really has ruined a lot of the game, for a lot of people.
To be honest, it makes me sick that the guy cheated and gave BoB an advantage. They should have fired him. His actions reflect very poorly and broke a lot of trust.
On the other hand, it's over and done with. I think a lot of people are blowing it out of proportion or using it as an excuse to expand their territory under the guise of saving eve from BoB. Plus, I seriously don't think that RA are any better than BoB, and in many cases I think they're far worse.
So... Basically, I've grown sick of the whole nine yards. 0.0 bas basically turned into: The great northern circlejerk, BoB and pets, and RA and pets. Meta-gaming and Forum whoring often have a greater impact than in game actions. Numbers trump any skills/abilities/equipment/tactics. And superfast ships are the i-win or at least i-never-lose button. It's getting pretty ghey.
Which is why I've moved to empire and am starting my own corp with friends just to hang out, chill, run some missions and do some production and trading. Much more casual, less politics.
By the way, if there's any old-ish eve players who feel the same way, and want to join up and just chill, whore some lvl 4 agents, do research, and whatnot, reply and let me know.
~Wx
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So basically, yeah. I'm not happy with either side. I was playing devil's advocate with you, though. Really, BoB cheating sucks ass and is not good for the game or the company. But, it didn't affect the outcome of any wars, and there's nothing to suggest that the alliance as a whole knew about it. I mean, I think you're blowing it out of proportion.
My greatest wish for CCP and Eve is that everyone could just get over it and move on. If CCP isn't going to do anything else to T20 or on behalf of the community at large regarding his actions.... all the bitching in the world isn't going to make them. Which is why I've tried to move on, and why I'm taking a break from all the politics in empire for a while.
To be honest, it makes me sick that the guy cheated and gave BoB an advantage. They should have fired him. His actions reflect very poorly and broke a lot of trust.
On the other hand, it's over and done with. I think a lot of people are blowing it out of proportion or using it as an excuse to expand their territory under the guise of saving eve from BoB. Plus, I seriously don't think that RA are any better than BoB, and in many cases I think they're far worse.
So... Basically, I've grown sick of the whole nine yards. 0.0 bas basically turned into: The great northern circlejerk, BoB and pets, and RA and pets. Meta-gaming and Forum whoring often have a greater impact than in game actions. Numbers trump any skills/abilities/equipment/tactics. And superfast ships are the i-win or at least i-never-lose button. It's getting pretty ghey.
Which is why I've moved to empire and am starting my own corp with friends just to hang out, chill, run some missions and do some production and trading. Much more casual, less politics.
By the way, if there's any old-ish eve players who feel the same way, and want to join up and just chill, whore some lvl 4 agents, do research, and whatnot, reply and let me know.
I've also heard that if a node crash is caused by people jumping into a system, when the node comes back up, priority is given to the people that are in the process of jumping - because until they are in the system, their characters are "in limbo" between systems. Appearantly the game tries to compensate for having jumped through one jumpgate and not having come out the other yet, by prioritizing these logins first.
Which basically means that the way to beat any defensive position where people are dug in is to bring enough people to crash the node when you jump in.
And yes, it did essentially kill Lotka Volterra as an alliance. But, it has also helped BoB when they fought versus ASCN (and they were the attackers), it's helped Goonswarm when they fought -V- and LV in 1V-LI2, and a bunch of others, too.
Basically, at this point, I look at it as a game mechanic. It's not going to get fixed any time soon, so I just will go ahead and assume that it's better to be on the advantageous end of it (jumping in) rather than the wrong end (defending).
Just the sort of attitude typical of Eve as well. You just didn't ask me for my stuff. They got other advantages from having the dev in there as well (they knew exactly what to train for and what to do for new content). But if you want to live in a world where CCP didn't screw up the universe, that's fine. As they say in Eve, Proof or STFU.
No one in BoB has ever said they knew T20 was a developer. Blacklight and DBPreacher were pissed off when they found out, because T20's outing turned them into liars. I bet most people thought he aquired those Blueprints legitimately, or didn't know he had them.
Seconded. The Red Alliance is almost entirely made up of griefers and people who sell in game currency for real rubles.
They camp and run every plex in the south east that I have ever seen, from Paragon Soul over to the Drone regions. They just recently backstabbed SMASH alliance in order to get control over one of Lotka Volterra's old 10/10 complexes.
RA are the villians in this game, and yet everyone seems to ally with them and forget it to go get the evil BoB.
Band of Brothers has owned Delve and Period Basis since WAAAAAAAY back, before the great northern war. The only expansion that they've done in all of late 2005 - current is:
1.) Beat FIX out of Querious. Then, they recruited FIX, set a non-agression pact, and FIX still lives in Querious under BoB banner. 2.) Beat the shit out of Ascendent Frontier. But, then, ASCN was a rudderless ship, incompetent leadership, too many carebears, no will to fight.
And I seriously doubt that ONE Interdictor BPO and a few ammo BPO's could have influenced the outcome of the ASCN war.
You don't understand how much money BoB has.
But, then, you quit, so whatever. You voted with your dollers. I just wish you would let people try Eve for themselves and see if they like it. I would say that T20's BPO's affected far less than 1% of the people that play eve. And yet.... appearantly the sky is falling.
Slashdot Mirror
Come to think of it, why was there a halt in
Ugh.
Two solaris oopsies.
One: Somehow, I don't know how, I accidentally deleted
Two: Not wanting to accidentally halt the machine without really meaning it, I moved the halt command to halt.ireallymeanit. I then replaced halt with a small shell script that echoed "You don't want to halt this machine" (sleep a few seconds) "If you do, type halt.ireallymeanit" (sleep a few seconds) exit.
Then, to test it, I type halt. Without (duh) first typing which halt to make sure there wasn't a halt command before the
Needless to say, it's not Solaris' fault, but somehow I always managed to screw up that OS without meaning to, so I have developed a healthy fear and loathing for it. I'd like to think I've grown up a bit since then - this has been like 3 or 4 years now, and I've learned a helluvalot since then.
~Wx
Mysterious past?!?
What kind of Square RPG Fan are you!
Obviously one of the lead characters will have AMNESIA. It's a requirement!
# Even if she were underage in the photo, and were obviously drinking alcohol, what's that have to do with anything? If you're under the illusion that every teacher in your child's school never touched a drop of alcohol until they were 21, you're deluded, quite dangerously so.
Yes. This. Exactly this.
It's like assuming your grandparents didn't do the baloney mambo. Get over it, man. Everyone has done everything.
~X
Which actually sucks, because I had just got done training my dad to log into his webhosting account with ftp://domain.com and to type in his password in the pop-up, and then to drag-and-drop his files in order to upload them (mostly pictures he takes of my kid, in the form of "look at my grandkid").
I had to wait until I could get back to my parents' house to install a real FTP client, and then train him on using FileZilla, after he installed IE7. I had also trained him to install microsoft updates when he goes to bed at night (they use AOL and are in the country, so they connect at 33600 at the best). He's a good guy and he means well. I don't really see what microsoft gains from this. I mean, heck, even I have my bookmark for totalfark in firefox set to http://totalfark.com./
~Wx
The top 10% will always pay a higher percentage of their taxable income (note I said PERCENTAGE, not AMOUNT) than the bottom 90% will. It's a mathematical certainty. Of course, under a truly fair system, everyone would pay the same percentage of their income in taxes, but we have a graduated tax system, so the top 10% pay a higher percentage of their income than anyone else.
Aaaah, the flat tax. This is the worst idea, ever.
Let's take three families of four and a 20% flat tax.
Family one lives comfortably, one spouse pulls in $50,000/yr gross, and the other pulls in $80,000/yr gross. On that $130,000 that they make per year, they're expected to pay (say for example) $26,000 in taxes. This leaves their net around $104,000, leaving them plenty of money to pay their $2500/month mortgage and two $600/month car payments, as well as put a little aside for college. That $26,000 would have been nice to have this year, but everyone's got to pay taxes, so they'll put off that addition to the house another year.
Family two lives very richly, one spouse is a top executive and pulls in $800,000 a year with his bonuses, while the other stays home and watches TLC. That $800,000 means at 20% their tax burden is a hefty $160,000, leaving them a respectible net of $640,000/yr. This gives them plenty of money to have both a maid and a cook, as well as several nice european cars, and send both kids to private school. That $160,000 would have been nice to have this year, but everyone's got to pay taxes, so they'll put off that new yacht cruiser for the beach house for another year.
Family three lives at the poverty level. Both spouses work minimum wage jobs, but each only has one job because they want to be home with their kids at night. Between the two of them, they manage to pull in $21,000/yr. Most of their money goes to rent, and if the car breaks down one more time, they don't know what they're going to do. Their tax burden is $4,200, or a little less than $200/month, leaving them a net income of $16,800. With that $200 a month, they might have been able to afford health insurance, or a reliable car to get them too and from work, they might have been able to move out of public housing and into a better neighborhood. That $4200 to them would have been - possibly literally - a lifesaver.
When you hear someone propose a flat tax, it seems so obvious that there's no reason it shouldn't be done. But when you look at a flat tax, it always benefits the rich. Always. Why? Right now the rich pay more taxes.... because they have the means to do so.
Society is not measured by the wealthiest of individuals, but by the poorest.
~Wx
uncle's
I hate myself. Apostrophe Accident.
As to the warrentless searching of a car... In the US at least, this is all a moot point if you're a teenager. Despite that a lot of teenagers I know, especially ones who are in their final year of high school and are taking "US Government", probably know as much about the law as many cops, being a teenager is proof of guilt.
Case in point: I have a friend who has never in his life smoked a cigarette, done a drug, and the only alcohol he's consumed is when he visited an exchange student in Estonia (appearantly, said exchange student's uncle's thought it was funny to make the American toast the old Soviet Republic and drink Vodka). He is now 27.
When he was 16, he drove a wee little nissan, had long hair, and was in a punk band. He got pulled over on suspicion of being a teenager (as best he could tell, they never did tell him), and they asked to search his car. He said "No way, I know my rights, if you don't have a warrant, you can't search". Know what the cops told him? The fact that he didn't want his car searched was enough suspicion to get probable cause to secure a warrent, and that he'd have to sit on the road side with the cops for 45 minutes while they made out a warrent and got it authorized before he could leave.
Welcome to the land of if you're young, you're fucked.
Um, dude, not everyone is in the market for "competitive MIPS/Watt" quad core servers. Most of us just want a fast desktop so we can play counterstrike.
Well, it is cyclical, but it wasn't too smart in my opinion to buy a some-what floundering video card company right before the cycle beat the crap out of them with the core 2 duo.
I mean, I'm a huge fan of AMD chips, but if I were in the market right now, Intel is the only game in town. Let's hope it swings back before they run out of cash.
Dead now at 33, including the shooter, per the news conference on WDBJ7.
You are exactly right. It brings up something I've observed...
My step daughter is taking a class in biology. The first quiz is a bit of a doozy when tasked against my own knowledge, but it did bring out an aspect of this story. Today's kids are tasked with finding answers in what equates to an ocean of information compared to what was available when I was in school. Plagiarism is not good, but in this 'ocean of information' it is difficult to know what that really is. When studying, an answer from wikipedia is as good as one from another paper available on the Internet.
I think it leads to lax standards as to where the answer came from when the point is to find the answer. Term papers and those efforts required of students that require actual personal thought and effort are not dead, they simply need to be pressed with more effort. Finding information is no longer the problem that it used to be. Expressing your own thoughts on the question at hand is a skill that many people never learn, never mind figure out how to express when they are 18-ish.
It is problematic to discuss things in a black and white manner as this story seems to. The issue is not plagiarism or term papers, it is expression of thought, and that is what is endangered most by the 'ocean of information' that is now available to us all.
I mean, doesn't the claim have to be made by the party who is being harmed (allegedly)? I can't sue youtube for infringing on CBS's copyright claims, right? Because I am not an interested or harmed party.
Because they're required by law to. A DMCA takedown request is basically a statement, made under penalty of perjury, that the information is correct.
Yeah, but when I was into webhosting, every DMCA letter we got also stated that the person contacting us, under penalty of perjury, was affirming that they were either the copyright holder, or a legal representative thereof.
I mean, if I email youtube and say "Take down that clip of the Morning Show, I swear that it is the property of CBS"... I don't think it holds water. I think only the copyright holder or a legal representative has standing to contest it.
I am not a lawyer, and I know there are a few out there on slashdot, could one of them comment? Who has legal standings to proceed in civil matters?
~Will
The TLD tells you which servers to query.
Heh.
I'm happily married with a 3 year old kid. We lived together for 3 years before we got married. We have a good sex life. It's not porn star but it's fulfilling.
But, good luck with whatever.
But aside from that, I'm sure that a lot of women have fallen for slashdot readers precisely because we do have a few things going for us.
1.) We don't think we are god's gift to women, or that we would totally rock if we were on MTV'sTheGrind or whatever. Despite the shortcomings this implies, this means that typically the geek will make a better lover than the frat boy, because he's actually looking for the response from his lover. In short, geeks try harder, and frat boys don't think they have to try at all.
2.) We masturbate. Say what you want, but masturbation is a GOOD THING. The way to become a more effective lover is PRACTICE. And people who masturbate know what gets them off. Just like it's dangerous to assume that being in a relationship with a (member of the preferred sex) will make you a whole person, you shouldn't go into a sexual relationship with the expectations that movies and TV give us. The secret to a good sex life? Non-interdependence.
Go get 'em, tiger.
~Wx
Yeah, and you didn't have to just reset your clock, you had to get a whole new sundial at that switchover.
I haven't seen any evidence that they got any more help from T20 / CCP than the blueprints, but having one scandal come to light certainly means there could be others.
All I was saying is that I still see tons of outrage at BoB over this, but I see not nearly enough outrage at the asshole who hacked forums and databases to get private convos and IP addresses. That guy is a true douchebag. The ends don't justify illegal means, sorry.
And then, the guy outed The Enslaver, who I have actually flown with and been on Teamspeak with. That dude is a standup guy, and he knows more about eve than pretty much anyone else in the game - which is why he got offered a position once he graduated high school. He didn't do anything wrong, and outing him as a GM was another douchebag move.
Whether or not it should have come to light that BoB cheated, I think that guy who did the hacking and exposure really has ruined a lot of the game, for a lot of people.
~Wx
Oh, no, it pisses me off to no end that T20 cheated. Actually, i'm going to cut and post from a post i just made here to an EvE noobie:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=226635&cid=18
And essentially, that's what's happening.
To be honest, it makes me sick that the guy cheated and gave BoB an advantage. They should have fired him. His actions reflect very poorly and broke a lot of trust.
On the other hand, it's over and done with. I think a lot of people are blowing it out of proportion or using it as an excuse to expand their territory under the guise of saving eve from BoB. Plus, I seriously don't think that RA are any better than BoB, and in many cases I think they're far worse.
So... Basically, I've grown sick of the whole nine yards. 0.0 bas basically turned into: The great northern circlejerk, BoB and pets, and RA and pets. Meta-gaming and Forum whoring often have a greater impact than in game actions. Numbers trump any skills/abilities/equipment/tactics. And superfast ships are the i-win or at least i-never-lose button. It's getting pretty ghey.
Which is why I've moved to empire and am starting my own corp with friends just to hang out, chill, run some missions and do some production and trading. Much more casual, less politics.
By the way, if there's any old-ish eve players who feel the same way, and want to join up and just chill, whore some lvl 4 agents, do research, and whatnot, reply and let me know.
~Wx
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So basically, yeah. I'm not happy with either side. I was playing devil's advocate with you, though. Really, BoB cheating sucks ass and is not good for the game or the company. But, it didn't affect the outcome of any wars, and there's nothing to suggest that the alliance as a whole knew about it. I mean, I think you're blowing it out of proportion.
My greatest wish for CCP and Eve is that everyone could just get over it and move on. If CCP isn't going to do anything else to T20 or on behalf of the community at large regarding his actions.... all the bitching in the world isn't going to make them. Which is why I've tried to move on, and why I'm taking a break from all the politics in empire for a while.
~W
And essentially, that's what's happening.
To be honest, it makes me sick that the guy cheated and gave BoB an advantage. They should have fired him. His actions reflect very poorly and broke a lot of trust.
On the other hand, it's over and done with. I think a lot of people are blowing it out of proportion or using it as an excuse to expand their territory under the guise of saving eve from BoB. Plus, I seriously don't think that RA are any better than BoB, and in many cases I think they're far worse.
So... Basically, I've grown sick of the whole nine yards. 0.0 bas basically turned into: The great northern circlejerk, BoB and pets, and RA and pets. Meta-gaming and Forum whoring often have a greater impact than in game actions. Numbers trump any skills/abilities/equipment/tactics. And superfast ships are the i-win or at least i-never-lose button. It's getting pretty ghey.
Which is why I've moved to empire and am starting my own corp with friends just to hang out, chill, run some missions and do some production and trading. Much more casual, less politics.
By the way, if there's any old-ish eve players who feel the same way, and want to join up and just chill, whore some lvl 4 agents, do research, and whatnot, reply and let me know.
~Wx
I've also heard that if a node crash is caused by people jumping into a system, when the node comes back up, priority is given to the people that are in the process of jumping - because until they are in the system, their characters are "in limbo" between systems. Appearantly the game tries to compensate for having jumped through one jumpgate and not having come out the other yet, by prioritizing these logins first.
Which basically means that the way to beat any defensive position where people are dug in is to bring enough people to crash the node when you jump in.
And yes, it did essentially kill Lotka Volterra as an alliance. But, it has also helped BoB when they fought versus ASCN (and they were the attackers), it's helped Goonswarm when they fought -V- and LV in 1V-LI2, and a bunch of others, too.
Basically, at this point, I look at it as a game mechanic. It's not going to get fixed any time soon, so I just will go ahead and assume that it's better to be on the advantageous end of it (jumping in) rather than the wrong end (defending).
~WX
No one in BoB has ever said they knew T20 was a developer. Blacklight and DBPreacher were pissed off when they found out, because T20's outing turned them into liars. I bet most people thought he aquired those Blueprints legitimately, or didn't know he had them.
Assumptions, rumors, FUD. Please, go back home.
~wx
Seconded. The Red Alliance is almost entirely made up of griefers and people who sell in game currency for real rubles.
They camp and run every plex in the south east that I have ever seen, from Paragon Soul over to the Drone regions. They just recently backstabbed SMASH alliance in order to get control over one of Lotka Volterra's old 10/10 complexes.
RA are the villians in this game, and yet everyone seems to ally with them and forget it to go get the evil BoB.
~Wx
I suggest you get your history right and look at this post:
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=top
Band of Brothers has owned Delve and Period Basis since WAAAAAAAY back, before the great northern war. The only expansion that they've done in all of late 2005 - current is:
1.) Beat FIX out of Querious. Then, they recruited FIX, set a non-agression pact, and FIX still lives in Querious under BoB banner.
2.) Beat the shit out of Ascendent Frontier. But, then, ASCN was a rudderless ship, incompetent leadership, too many carebears, no will to fight.
And I seriously doubt that ONE Interdictor BPO and a few ammo BPO's could have influenced the outcome of the ASCN war.
You don't understand how much money BoB has.
But, then, you quit, so whatever. You voted with your dollers. I just wish you would let people try Eve for themselves and see if they like it. I would say that T20's BPO's affected far less than 1% of the people that play eve. And yet.... appearantly the sky is falling.
~Wx