Nope. Me either. A person is invaluable. The work they do, on the other hand, can be worth next to zero. The guy who asks you if you'd like fries with that is an example. It can also be worth more than that of a human life. The guy who saves lives every day at work when morons drive into trees and are in danger of bleeding to death is an example. If a person does work, they should be compensated for that work in a manner commensurate with the value of the work.
Which is why I don't bitch about professional athletes who make millions. The amount you make is inversely proportional to the number of other people that can do your job, or in short, shortened supply increases demand. There's not a demand for very many Michael Vick's (only 20 or so), but there's only one, therefore he can command a high salary. However the dude serving your fries is essentially worthless because anyone can do his job.
So in a way, I disagree w/ your parent poster, however... I also feel that, were I not in my current location (college town of blacksburg va), then i'd probably be making at least $10/hr as a unix network admin (I'm not, and I am, respectively).
Thank you very much for your comment. In light of everyone else here flaming me today, I really appreciated your words, and I enjoyed reading them.
Please poke around this thread to see where I've replied to other people about this. Summary of the $7000 question: I'm trying.
~Will
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So stop whining on Slashdot. Go to school. Take some economics courses. LEARN HOW TO MAKE MONEY.
It would be really hard for me to reply to all of these posts. Apparently, everyone with a conservative economic theory came out to flame me today. I respect everyone's opinion, and I feel that anyone can express themselves, or what's the US all about? On the other hand, I really don't know how so many people can blast the RIAA, Microsoft, and other big corporations for being able to buy their way into anything, and in the same breath come out of the woodworks and say having lots of money and being able to spend it all any way you like.
I just wanted to address the $7000/year comment.
I'm offended by people telling me to go out and get a better job, go to school, stop whining, whatever.
I am a college student. I'm 2 semesters away from getting a history degree from Virginia Tech. After I get my degree, I plan to go be a teacher somewhere and be poor, making that glorious $24,000/yr. I want to be a teacher because I want to be a teacher, and I love what I study, not because of the money. However; I am very sensitive when people talk about paying less taxes, since my chosen profession is directly related to the taxes paid.
Everyone needs to pay taxes to support the school systems, for the good of the nation, even if their kids don't go to school. Having a more educated population is a good thing. And, as a pre-emptive argument stopper, for those who say "i send my kids to private school, why should I pay taxes to the school", consider this: If people only paid taxes on what they used, we'd be in a sore state. If only people that called 911 paid for 911, where would we be? If only people that drove more than X miles on Y roads paid taxes for roads, where would we be? I'm not unemployed, but I pay unemployement tax. The only thing the federal government does for me is military action (which I don't support currently) and deliver my mail (badly), but I pay federal income tax.
Anyway, yes, I make about $7,000 / year. I work 20 hours a week, which is about all I can do. Currently, I'm in summer school, taking 6 hours of classes (which is full-time student status). Aside from my job, I also have a radio show at the local college station (WUVT). I also live with my girlfriend, which is a full time job in and of it's self. Come fall, I'll be taking 16 hours of classes (3 of which will be world econ 2006), working 18 hours a week, still doing my radio show, but now we'll have to add 1.5 hours of marching band practice every week day, every saturday full with football game (marching band practice and performance), and sunday night band leadership meetings (mellophone section leader). On TOP of all that, I'm developing a bunch of websites for people freelance, for relatively nothing or for free, to build my portfolio. On TOP of all that, sometimes I have to make time to drive back home to fredericksburg (4 hours) to record with my band there (www.adventure-today.com/newhotness).
Where do I fit another job? Especially since I have one of the highest paying non-bartender jobs in Blacksburg, even if most other unix network administrators in the world actually make $10 or more per hour (I don't).
Out of that $7000 (roughly $540/month), $250 goes to rent (1000 sq. ft. townhouse, $999 split 4 ways). After that, about $50-60 goes to utilities (inefficient electricity). Then I have to find $100/mo for car insurance (that's with my good student discount), $100/mo for health insurance, and THEN I have to eat. And going out to a movie, or what-have-you? Forget it. It's a major expense; I have to save up two months in advance.
This is my life. Hopefully, with taking summer school, I'll be able to graduate this spring. Needless to say, I am living on a razor-thin margin, and would welcome things like universal health care and government-funded schooling (i'm taking out student loans).
And it sickens me when people making $500,000 a year bitch about paying $120,000 in taxes.
How is it greedy to want to save money? Your own money?
I put in the extra hours, I got the deliverable done on time, I did the work, why shouldn't I keep my money? How is that greedy? I think that coveting other people's money is what is greedy.
How greedy is it to sit and contemplate whether you are going to have steak or lobster tonite, or whether your kids are going to a private boarding school in connecticut or massachusetts, when there are other people down the street who can barely afford to eat ramen and have no hope of going to college based on their socio-economic background?
Fuck you if you're rich and don't want to pay taxes. At least you have money to pay taxes with. If you make $500,000/yr and the government wants 30%, you aren't starving. But, if you make $5,000/yr, and the government wants 30%, where does that leave you?
Taxing the wealthy is *not* about punishing them for being wealthy. It is about redistribution of wealth, which is a good thing. Wealthy people do not move the economy, middle class and poor people in massive numbers do. If wealthy people pay no or little tax, they continue to get wealthy. When wealthy people amass a fortune and do not have anything to do with it, it's called hoarding (see also "middle ages"). It stagnates the economy and stalls progress.
How is coveting other people's money greedy? I don't think that's what the poor do, sir. I think the poor covet the chance to eat, not your plasma screen TV. I think sitting at the top of your world watching pay per view on your plasma screen TV while eating steak in your leather lazyboy chair is greedy.
For the last 51 years I have been living in the USA and one thing I notice is that from the American people's POV, no matter what country you are from, either your "one of us" (American) or "one of them" (non-American).
For the last 2 years I have been a systems administrator, and one thing I notice is that from the system administrator's POV, no matter what level of intelligence you are, either you're "one of us" (BOFH) or you're "one of them" (users).
I wouldn't be surprised if they use some of the cash to gobble up a good-sized software firm as well (Peoplesoft? Siebel? One of the supply chain players?).
Boy, did I just have a bad thought.
Merger: Dell/sprint and Microsoft. Since dell and sprint are already in cahorts - hrm. That could be really, really bad. Seeing as how Sprint is probably the largest global ISP, Dell is the world's largest computer manufacturer, and Microsoft is.. microsoft.
Don't like it? There are plenty of countries you can move to where it's illegal for a private citizen to own a firearm.
See, and my reply to that is that it's living in the same country that guarantees your right to own a gun that gives me the right to voice my opinion about how guns are bad.
We don't live in a country that gives us the right to own guns. We live in a country that gives us the right to choose whether or not we'd like to own guns. I choose to both live in the US and to not own a gun.
I feel that your views are as valid as mine, and I feel that constitutional democracy is working when you can raise your voice as loud as mine and proclaim that they'll never take your guns at the same time as I proclaim that I'll never own a gun.
So, if you don't mind, let's settle this whole "love guns or leave the country" arguement. I don't love guns, I loathe them. However, I love the government which gives me the opportunity to love or loathe them, and I choose to stay.
"While I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Existing infrastruction is a definate. They wanna make more money on existing pipes, etc.
This is more right than you know. We (netmar.com) called up Cogent, asking about bandwidth. The problem we've run into is that bandwidth for home users is getting cheaper (even though this thread is about home users getting bandwidth cheap in japan... it's still cheap here). You can get a DSL line with 1.5 Mb/s down and 384k up for $60/month from the provider here (blacksburg - ntelos). But, we have two T-1's from Ntelos (T-1's are 1.5 Mb/s) and they cost $675 EACH. Our SLA exists, but it could be better, for the price. The difference between business and home service is aweful.
So, anyway, Cogent can provide you 100 Mb/s for $1000/month if you're not a server-provider (i.e. office buildng, apartment complex), and $3000/month if you are (webhosting, ISP, etc). We called them to ask about the service, and they said they don't have any service in our area.
But, then they said they'd install a link for $124,000.
We, of course, told them to go screw themselves. We're not going to pay for them to install a link down to blacksburg so that then they can offer bandwidth to anyone in town for the same price we're paying.
But, the problem exists that Tier-1 providers want to charge EXTREME amounts for their bandwidth, yet are unwilling to expand their service areas.
And we've talked about it at Netmar many times - we love being able to say that all of our bandwidth is quality bandwidth, not cogent-esque links, etc (we have links from nTelos, Qwest, and Sprint), but it's hard to compete when people expect to pay similar amounts to what they pay at home. People get starstruck when they see Rackshack offer 700GB of bandwidth per month for $100, and they tend to overlook the fact that, if you go w/ Rackshack, your tech support won't know inet from init.
And we can't honestly figure out where the cost of bandwidth comes from. The hardware cost and line-leasing is obviously not free, but they are sunk costs, assessed whether the company uses them or not. We seriously can't figure out why bandwidth costs so much money.
Personally, I think if SCO wins their contract suit against IBM, they'll go after MicroSoft next. After all, they have a contract with MicroSoft and they've gotten a settlement out of MicroSoft before.
Rumor has it that microsoft just dumped an assload of cash into SCO stock.
no, i seriously have never done make install on a kernel. I just do what the gentoo docs tell me, cause i figure that it works. I don't have any problem editing lilo.conf, putting the bzImage in the boot sector, and running lilo. Plus, i want to be able to manage multiple kernels.
I have done make dep clean bzImage etc on one line.
In my current kernel, i even turned off module support, so i don't bother make modules / modules_install. If I add hardware, i have to recompile, but, who gives a fuck? I don't need stuff like USB, etc.
Probably not. But they're worried that the broad availability of hacks around their XBox restriction technologies will allow widespread copying of games. That's a valid concern, but they would have been better off selling a box that was not usable as a PC.
What they're worried about is a boot disk.
I mean, if I have to buy an X-box and open it, buy a chip and solder it in, that's a pain in the ass.
But, if I can download a 6 meg ISO and boot off of it onto linux or to play burned games, then I'll jump on in a heartbeat.
Microsoft figures (and they're probably right) that, if it can be modded, and then someone finds that they can use the 007 trick, it's possible that someone could find a bootdisk trick.
Yeah, i noticed that when i got sys-kernel/development on gentoo - following their instructions, I ran make dep && make clean bzImage modules modules_install.
Yeah. No make dep needed.
But, holy hell, did 2.5.74 give me problems. I'm back to 2.4.20 now. It would cause just random things where processes would hang and the load would be 203 on the machine when it was doing nothing.
See, even trying to claim that Cersi is all bad can be disputed. She does what she does for the love of her house and her children.
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talking of "the dark tower series"..any ideas when the next one iwll arrive????
I see you're able to contain your excitement even less than I, but I know this: It's done. The book is written. Stephen king's webpage has the prologue to the next one already done and for you to read. It's comming soon. God willing.
~Wx
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I hate replying to my own post, but...
I dare you to name the main character. Go ahead.
When I started reading "Game of Thrones", I wasn't really paying attention to anyone but the Starks. I figured that all the other characters were just filler to add depth.
Boy, was I wrong. The level of character development is simply amazing. EVERY PERSON you hear mentioned in the first two chapters has a back story. Which amounts to about, what, 50 main characters?
Just... Read it, is all I can say.
~Will
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Just to get this out there for discussion:
If you think game of thrones was interesting, you're in for a few long nights when you get to storm of swords.
By far, "A song of Ice and Fire" is the best fantasy I've read, with the exception of Tolkien. And that's including such auspicious titles as "the dark tower" series and the first 4 dunes.
Simply the most enjoyable books I've read in the past 15 years.
There's a lot of debate about the salem witch trials. If you were in high school or college in the past 10 years, you may have had to purchase a book called "After the fact: The art of historical detection" for a history test.
That book puts forth several theories on the Salem witch trials, including the fermented wheat that produced hallucinations. They also said that the hallucination theory can be telling of the times in which the theory was developed. In the 50's, people drew paralells to McCarthyism, saying that the "witches" must have been unloyal to the leadership, or something. The 60's, of course, spawned the psycodellic theories. Later, people turned to historical psyco-analysis, claiming that, perhaps, the people drank some bad water and were just simply crazy. Now, the current theory is that the witches and accusers were from different classes of society, and it was a social conflict.
No one of these theories is wrong, and it's interesting to discuss the history of the theories as a paralell to the current popular environment of the researchers.// end of history lecture. gotta stop doing that.. but there are so many interesting and intriguing stories in history...
Instead, drink beer -- it's been helping ugly people get laid for over 200 years!
Beer was invented by the babylonians or Sumarians at least 6,000 years ago (it is mentioned in the epic of gilgamesh, approx 3,000 years ago).
It was also an important part of the diet of the european middle-ages peasant. Peasants would stockpile barley and wheat for the winter, but towards the end of the winter, the grains would start to go bad. The solution to this is beer, which could be made from slightly bad grains and still convey the nutritional value of the food. Beer is nothing if not a good energy source, rich in sugars and other more complex carbohydrates.
So, you could say that beer may have saved Europe in the Middle Ages.
Or, you could just say that it's been getting people laid for quite a lot longer than 200 years.
As someone who has sold cannon printers, don't take this man's advice too seriously. The cannon printers of yore are legendary in their ability to work for all the ages and cost very little.
However, the cannon printers of today are crap. They run out of ink even without printing (must be an air leak, it must evaporate). The demo model cannon we had NEVER worked. It froze up all the time, the picture quality was CRAP, and it was slower than a turtle walking up glass sprayed with cooking spray. The ink is somewhat cheaper, but not if you fuck up the print head - the print heads usually cost $70. This is an advantage of HP (and lexmark, i guess) - you get a new print head every time you run out of ink. I consider that an advantage.
Herein lies the problem with any do-it-yourself project, from changing your oil to using linux to writing your own printer driver to building your own guitar. You can do all of these things yourself cheaply...
...only if your time is worthless to you.
Can I change my own oil? Yes. I've rebuilt several engines, including a 76 mustang I used to have. Do I take my car down to express lube to change the oil? Yes.
Why? It's worth $25.99 to me to not have to go out, buy oil, buy a filter, come home, crawl under the car, find the oil filter, unscrew it, get oil on my hands, take out the oil stopper screw, get dirty, drain, put oil back in, go shower. That would take me probably an hour, shopping time included (wal mart is 15 minutes away). Plus, it would still probably cost me $17 for 4 quarts of oil and a filter. It's not worth it to me to have to deal with that. Not for $9/hr.
Is linux more free than windows? Yes. Especially recently, now that you don't have to configure everything for yourself. There is a price breaking point that I will do something for my self. Oil change at $25? Sure, i'll let someone else do that. Windows for $299.99? Not worth it.
This is the crux of capitalism. People will pay for your service if you offer them a good value for their time. However, if your prices are too high, people will do whatever it is that you offer them themselves, or steal it. Unless there's a monopoly, in which you have no choice, or unless it's a must-have, in which you have to buy, no matter the cost, because it's a requirement for existance.
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Nope. Me either. A person is invaluable. The work they do, on the other hand, can be worth next to zero. The guy who asks you if you'd like fries with that is an example. It can also be worth more than that of a human life. The guy who saves lives every day at work when morons drive into trees and are in danger of bleeding to death is an example. If a person does work, they should be compensated for that work in a manner commensurate with the value of the work.
Which is why I don't bitch about professional athletes who make millions. The amount you make is inversely proportional to the number of other people that can do your job, or in short, shortened supply increases demand. There's not a demand for very many Michael Vick's (only 20 or so), but there's only one, therefore he can command a high salary. However the dude serving your fries is essentially worthless because anyone can do his job.
So in a way, I disagree w/ your parent poster, however... I also feel that, were I not in my current location (college town of blacksburg va), then i'd probably be making at least $10/hr as a unix network admin (I'm not, and I am, respectively).
~Will
Thank you very much for your comment. In light of everyone else here flaming me today, I really appreciated your words, and I enjoyed reading them.
Please poke around this thread to see where I've replied to other people about this. Summary of the $7000 question: I'm trying.
~Will
So stop whining on Slashdot. Go to school. Take some economics courses. LEARN HOW TO MAKE MONEY.
It would be really hard for me to reply to all of these posts. Apparently, everyone with a conservative economic theory came out to flame me today. I respect everyone's opinion, and I feel that anyone can express themselves, or what's the US all about? On the other hand, I really don't know how so many people can blast the RIAA, Microsoft, and other big corporations for being able to buy their way into anything, and in the same breath come out of the woodworks and say having lots of money and being able to spend it all any way you like.
I just wanted to address the $7000/year comment.
I'm offended by people telling me to go out and get a better job, go to school, stop whining, whatever.
I am a college student. I'm 2 semesters away from getting a history degree from Virginia Tech. After I get my degree, I plan to go be a teacher somewhere and be poor, making that glorious $24,000/yr. I want to be a teacher because I want to be a teacher, and I love what I study, not because of the money. However; I am very sensitive when people talk about paying less taxes, since my chosen profession is directly related to the taxes paid.
Everyone needs to pay taxes to support the school systems, for the good of the nation, even if their kids don't go to school. Having a more educated population is a good thing. And, as a pre-emptive argument stopper, for those who say "i send my kids to private school, why should I pay taxes to the school", consider this: If people only paid taxes on what they used, we'd be in a sore state. If only people that called 911 paid for 911, where would we be? If only people that drove more than X miles on Y roads paid taxes for roads, where would we be? I'm not unemployed, but I pay unemployement tax. The only thing the federal government does for me is military action (which I don't support currently) and deliver my mail (badly), but I pay federal income tax.
Anyway, yes, I make about $7,000 / year. I work 20 hours a week, which is about all I can do. Currently, I'm in summer school, taking 6 hours of classes (which is full-time student status). Aside from my job, I also have a radio show at the local college station (WUVT). I also live with my girlfriend, which is a full time job in and of it's self.
Come fall, I'll be taking 16 hours of classes (3 of which will be world econ 2006), working 18 hours a week, still doing my radio show, but now we'll have to add 1.5 hours of marching band practice every week day, every saturday full with football game (marching band practice and performance), and sunday night band leadership meetings (mellophone section leader). On TOP of all that, I'm developing a bunch of websites for people freelance, for relatively nothing or for free, to build my portfolio. On TOP of all that, sometimes I have to make time to drive back home to fredericksburg (4 hours) to record with my band there (www.adventure-today.com/newhotness).
Where do I fit another job? Especially since I have one of the highest paying non-bartender jobs in Blacksburg, even if most other unix network administrators in the world actually make $10 or more per hour (I don't).
Out of that $7000 (roughly $540/month), $250 goes to rent (1000 sq. ft. townhouse, $999 split 4 ways). After that, about $50-60 goes to utilities (inefficient electricity). Then I have to find $100/mo for car insurance (that's with my good student discount), $100/mo for health insurance, and THEN I have to eat. And going out to a movie, or what-have-you? Forget it. It's a major expense; I have to save up two months in advance.
This is my life. Hopefully, with taking summer school, I'll be able to graduate this spring. Needless to say, I am living on a razor-thin margin, and would welcome things like universal health care and government-funded schooling (i'm taking out student loans).
And it sickens me when people making $500,000 a year bitch about paying $120,000 in taxes.
My whole point is: I'm trying. I really am.
~Will
How is it greedy to want to save money? Your own money?
I put in the extra hours, I got the deliverable done on time, I did the work, why shouldn't I keep my money? How is that greedy? I think that coveting other people's money is what is greedy.
How greedy is it to sit and contemplate whether you are going to have steak or lobster tonite, or whether your kids are going to a private boarding school in connecticut or massachusetts, when there are other people down the street who can barely afford to eat ramen and have no hope of going to college based on their socio-economic background?
Fuck you if you're rich and don't want to pay taxes. At least you have money to pay taxes with. If you make $500,000/yr and the government wants 30%, you aren't starving. But, if you make $5,000/yr, and the government wants 30%, where does that leave you?
Taxing the wealthy is *not* about punishing them for being wealthy. It is about redistribution of wealth, which is a good thing. Wealthy people do not move the economy, middle class and poor people in massive numbers do. If wealthy people pay no or little tax, they continue to get wealthy. When wealthy people amass a fortune and do not have anything to do with it, it's called hoarding (see also "middle ages"). It stagnates the economy and stalls progress.
How is coveting other people's money greedy? I don't think that's what the poor do, sir. I think the poor covet the chance to eat, not your plasma screen TV. I think sitting at the top of your world watching pay per view on your plasma screen TV while eating steak in your leather lazyboy chair is greedy.
My annual income is $7,000.
~Will
For the last 51 years I have been living in the USA and one thing I notice is that from the American people's POV, no matter what country you are from, either your "one of us" (American) or "one of them" (non-American).
For the last 2 years I have been a systems administrator, and one thing I notice is that from the system administrator's POV, no matter what level of intelligence you are, either you're "one of us" (BOFH) or you're "one of them" (users).
or something.
I wouldn't be surprised if they use some of the cash to gobble up a good-sized software firm as well (Peoplesoft? Siebel? One of the supply chain players?).
.. microsoft.
Boy, did I just have a bad thought.
Merger: Dell/sprint and Microsoft. Since dell and sprint are already in cahorts - hrm. That could be really, really bad. Seeing as how Sprint is probably the largest global ISP, Dell is the world's largest computer manufacturer, and Microsoft is
~Will
The Economy!! How can the economy be a 'risk'??
They consider the economy a risk because if it goes much further south, they might have to start dropping their prices.
You know, like, from $499 to $479 for office.
Fuckers.
~Will
Don't like it? There are plenty of countries you can move to where it's illegal for a private citizen to own a firearm.
See, and my reply to that is that it's living in the same country that guarantees your right to own a gun that gives me the right to voice my opinion about how guns are bad.
We don't live in a country that gives us the right to own guns. We live in a country that gives us the right to choose whether or not we'd like to own guns. I choose to both live in the US and to not own a gun.
I feel that your views are as valid as mine, and I feel that constitutional democracy is working when you can raise your voice as loud as mine and proclaim that they'll never take your guns at the same time as I proclaim that I'll never own a gun.
So, if you don't mind, let's settle this whole "love guns or leave the country" arguement. I don't love guns, I loathe them. However, I love the government which gives me the opportunity to love or loathe them, and I choose to stay.
"While I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it"
~Will
See, this is exactly my point.
Home users can get awesome bandwidth extremely cheap, but businesses that want to get T-x bandwidth pay thru the nose for it.
Existing infrastruction is a definate. They wanna make more money on existing pipes, etc.
This is more right than you know. We (netmar.com) called up Cogent, asking about bandwidth. The problem we've run into is that bandwidth for home users is getting cheaper (even though this thread is about home users getting bandwidth cheap in japan... it's still cheap here). You can get a DSL line with 1.5 Mb/s down and 384k up for $60/month from the provider here (blacksburg - ntelos). But, we have two T-1's from Ntelos (T-1's are 1.5 Mb/s) and they cost $675 EACH. Our SLA exists, but it could be better, for the price. The difference between business and home service is aweful.
So, anyway, Cogent can provide you 100 Mb/s for $1000/month if you're not a server-provider (i.e. office buildng, apartment complex), and $3000/month if you are (webhosting, ISP, etc). We called them to ask about the service, and they said they don't have any service in our area.
But, then they said they'd install a link for $124,000.
We, of course, told them to go screw themselves. We're not going to pay for them to install a link down to blacksburg so that then they can offer bandwidth to anyone in town for the same price we're paying.
But, the problem exists that Tier-1 providers want to charge EXTREME amounts for their bandwidth, yet are unwilling to expand their service areas.
And we've talked about it at Netmar many times - we love being able to say that all of our bandwidth is quality bandwidth, not cogent-esque links, etc (we have links from nTelos, Qwest, and Sprint), but it's hard to compete when people expect to pay similar amounts to what they pay at home. People get starstruck when they see Rackshack offer 700GB of bandwidth per month for $100, and they tend to overlook the fact that, if you go w/ Rackshack, your tech support won't know inet from init.
And we can't honestly figure out where the cost of bandwidth comes from. The hardware cost and line-leasing is obviously not free, but they are sunk costs, assessed whether the company uses them or not. We seriously can't figure out why bandwidth costs so much money.
~Will
Personally, I think if SCO wins their contract suit against IBM, they'll go after MicroSoft next. After all, they have a contract with MicroSoft and they've gotten a settlement out of MicroSoft before.
Rumor has it that microsoft just dumped an assload of cash into SCO stock.
But, linux is safe. You can't unring a bell.
no, i seriously have never done make install on a kernel. I just do what the gentoo docs tell me, cause i figure that it works. I don't have any problem editing lilo.conf, putting the bzImage in the boot sector, and running lilo. Plus, i want to be able to manage multiple kernels.
I have done make dep clean bzImage etc on one line.
In my current kernel, i even turned off module support, so i don't bother make modules / modules_install. If I add hardware, i have to recompile, but, who gives a fuck? I don't need stuff like USB, etc.
~Wx
Probably not. But they're worried that the broad availability of hacks around their XBox restriction technologies will allow widespread copying of games. That's a valid concern, but they would have been better off selling a box that was not usable as a PC.
What they're worried about is a boot disk.
I mean, if I have to buy an X-box and open it, buy a chip and solder it in, that's a pain in the ass.
But, if I can download a 6 meg ISO and boot off of it onto linux or to play burned games, then I'll jump on in a heartbeat.
Microsoft figures (and they're probably right) that, if it can be modded, and then someone finds that they can use the 007 trick, it's possible that someone could find a bootdisk trick.
Yeah, i noticed that when i got sys-kernel/development on gentoo - following their instructions, I ran make dep && make clean bzImage modules modules_install.
Yeah. No make dep needed.
But, holy hell, did 2.5.74 give me problems. I'm back to 2.4.20 now. It would cause just random things where processes would hang and the load would be 203 on the machine when it was doing nothing.
~Wx
bravo =)
Dude, just go with the flow. After Linus finishes work on 2.6.0, mabey he'll finally put the finishing touches on duke nukem: forever.
See, even trying to claim that Cersi is all bad can be disputed. She does what she does for the love of her house and her children.
talking of "the dark tower series" ..any ideas when the next one iwll arrive????
I see you're able to contain your excitement even less than I, but I know this: It's done. The book is written. Stephen king's webpage has the prologue to the next one already done and for you to read. It's comming soon. God willing.
~Wx
In addition:
I hate replying to my own post, but...
I dare you to name the main character. Go ahead.
When I started reading "Game of Thrones", I wasn't really paying attention to anyone but the Starks. I figured that all the other characters were just filler to add depth.
Boy, was I wrong. The level of character development is simply amazing. EVERY PERSON you hear mentioned in the first two chapters has a back story. Which amounts to about, what, 50 main characters?
Just... Read it, is all I can say.
~Will
Just to get this out there for discussion:
If you think game of thrones was interesting, you're in for a few long nights when you get to storm of swords.
By far, "A song of Ice and Fire" is the best fantasy I've read, with the exception of Tolkien. And that's including such auspicious titles as "the dark tower" series and the first 4 dunes.
Simply the most enjoyable books I've read in the past 15 years.
~Wx
There's a lot of debate about the salem witch trials. If you were in high school or college in the past 10 years, you may have had to purchase a book called "After the fact: The art of historical detection" for a history test.
// end of history lecture. gotta stop doing that.. but there are so many interesting and intriguing stories in history...
That book puts forth several theories on the Salem witch trials, including the fermented wheat that produced hallucinations. They also said that the hallucination theory can be telling of the times in which the theory was developed. In the 50's, people drew paralells to McCarthyism, saying that the "witches" must have been unloyal to the leadership, or something. The 60's, of course, spawned the psycodellic theories. Later, people turned to historical psyco-analysis, claiming that, perhaps, the people drank some bad water and were just simply crazy. Now, the current theory is that the witches and accusers were from different classes of society, and it was a social conflict.
No one of these theories is wrong, and it's interesting to discuss the history of the theories as a paralell to the current popular environment of the researchers.
~Wx
As the wise man once said,
"You can't un-ring a bell"
~Will
Instead, drink beer -- it's been helping ugly people get laid for over 200 years!
Beer was invented by the babylonians or Sumarians at least 6,000 years ago (it is mentioned in the epic of gilgamesh, approx 3,000 years ago).
It was also an important part of the diet of the european middle-ages peasant. Peasants would stockpile barley and wheat for the winter, but towards the end of the winter, the grains would start to go bad. The solution to this is beer, which could be made from slightly bad grains and still convey the nutritional value of the food. Beer is nothing if not a good energy source, rich in sugars and other more complex carbohydrates.
So, you could say that beer may have saved Europe in the Middle Ages.
Or, you could just say that it's been getting people laid for quite a lot longer than 200 years.
(damn history degree)
~Will
As someone who has sold cannon printers, don't take this man's advice too seriously. The cannon printers of yore are legendary in their ability to work for all the ages and cost very little.
However, the cannon printers of today are crap. They run out of ink even without printing (must be an air leak, it must evaporate). The demo model cannon we had NEVER worked. It froze up all the time, the picture quality was CRAP, and it was slower than a turtle walking up glass sprayed with cooking spray. The ink is somewhat cheaper, but not if you fuck up the print head - the print heads usually cost $70. This is an advantage of HP (and lexmark, i guess) - you get a new print head every time you run out of ink. I consider that an advantage.
~Wx
Herein lies the problem with any do-it-yourself project, from changing your oil to using linux to writing your own printer driver to building your own guitar. You can do all of these things yourself cheaply...
...only if your time is worthless to you.
Can I change my own oil? Yes. I've rebuilt several engines, including a 76 mustang I used to have. Do I take my car down to express lube to change the oil? Yes.
Why? It's worth $25.99 to me to not have to go out, buy oil, buy a filter, come home, crawl under the car, find the oil filter, unscrew it, get oil on my hands, take out the oil stopper screw, get dirty, drain, put oil back in, go shower. That would take me probably an hour, shopping time included (wal mart is 15 minutes away). Plus, it would still probably cost me $17 for 4 quarts of oil and a filter. It's not worth it to me to have to deal with that. Not for $9/hr.
Is linux more free than windows? Yes. Especially recently, now that you don't have to configure everything for yourself. There is a price breaking point that I will do something for my self. Oil change at $25? Sure, i'll let someone else do that. Windows for $299.99? Not worth it.
This is the crux of capitalism. People will pay for your service if you offer them a good value for their time. However, if your prices are too high, people will do whatever it is that you offer them themselves, or steal it. Unless there's a monopoly, in which you have no choice, or unless it's a must-have, in which you have to buy, no matter the cost, because it's a requirement for existance.
~wx