IRC is dying, but not dead. In response to the stuff about EFnet configuration versus Undernet configuration, it is undernet that uses no nickserv or chanserv (per se). Nicks on undernet are first come first served. Undernet, for the longest time, used a much weaker channel service method, as well: They had two universal bots, X and W. The problem with this idea is that the bots were hosted on servers connected to hubs. So it wasn't hard to/map and see that cservice.undernet.org had 2 clients and was connected to baltimore-r.md.us.undernet.org - it gave the kiddiez a real easy target - take down the X or W server and there's chaos, and the only way to get ops is if you had your own bot or an oper with a global O:line opped you.
I'm not sure what they're doing now, but i think that X is a distributed channelservice now, that each server has a piece of X in them. My point was just that at least EFnet's administration, if not their administrators (not high opinion) had a better chanserv and actually had a nickserv (no split collisions). It was just that undernet, from the start, was less seedy.
Didn't stop them from taking down irc2.att.net - at&t's undernet server which rocked - had the best ops, most bandwidth (att-duh) and better hardware - they could sustain 10,000 connections and frequently went higher than that. Now delinked. ~z
They're still waiting for the government to appropriate funds to provide adequate drainage. The problem is that this would require a government-sponsered lottery. I guess the right-wingers decided they'd rather be all wet.
you should definately use USGuard rather than zshell. Much faster and less space, i believe. The later version of tetris that i had only ran in usguard, but it was 2 player (link cable) and ran fast as crap. Zshell stood for Z-80 shell, by the way.
You can find out information about usguard here, which seems to be broken. The download is also available at this page which is. There's also mucho information here.
speaking of gwar, which you were, but the thread wasn't...
Violence has arrived is the best album ever created. No album can be that good. And.... if you're a true fan, i'll see you jan 16th at the norva in virginia beach for the opening tour of the Blood Drive 2002 tour, and then again on jan 17th in winston salem NC. Get tickets here.
slashdot isn't your be-all end-all of news sources, is it? One could argue that all news sources are run by incompetant assholes with an agenda, and one would probably be right. I enjoy reading, not for the flame wars, but for the content, such as it is.
~z
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ok, i kind of feel lazy even pointing this out, but...
The revolutionary aspect of this thing is that yeah it has gyroscopes and all that shtuff, but in reality, it is "walking for the lazy man" and is related to this product. The implecations of this aren't fantastic, and its not gonna change the world, but anything that makes a lazy man's life less mobile is worth.... something..... i dunno, you finish my post for me...
What does this have to do with anything? I don't know any windows users that submit bug reports.
Not to call attention to the devil its self, windowsXP, but now when something crashes (i.e. "the playa" *.divx player) in windowsXP, it asks if you want to send an error report to microsoft. Also, people submit bugs for mozilla, windows platform all the time, microsoft themselves have a bug submit page... i mean, it does happen, and rather often.
All i'm saying is that not all windows users are idiots. However, all idiots use windows.... or something.
You also have to consider that any amount of compression will help.
Undernet coder-com was working on an idea to add to ircu.d that would (on multi proc machines) use one processor for the irc functions and the other, which was usually regulated to everyday mundane functions (running ssh server, typical processes) to compress data going from server to server to reduce the lag time in some of the long jumps like *.eu to *.us. This was in the wake of the 3Gbps DDoS attacks on the system, causing several servers to delink. (we miss you irc2.att.net) So compression server side has lots of uses, not just for modem lusers. When the vast majority of what you're transfering is conversational text, compression works wonders
right but my point was that most of the "easily available" forms of hydrogen aren't H2. H2 isn't exactly portable or feasable in large quantites, and everyone always points to things like glucose (C6H12O6) as a source of hydrogen. I was just pointing out that this doesn't work because essentially you have the same byproducts as gas.
in addition to that, hydrogen in gasseous form is not at all dense, and liquid hydrogen is not practical to fuel something because of the insulation required to keep it cold, even though it is only slightly more expensive than milk to manufacture (according to my chem prof).
add to this that, yes the by product of H-O combustion is water, but to get hydrogen out of any hydrocarbon, you always get CO2 or NO2. Combustion reactions always follow the form Fuel+O2 -- CO2/NO2+H2O+energy So while you produce water in the end, you still produce CO2.
Insert all the standard slashdot oriented comments here:
music should be owned by the artists if they didn't put out crap we'd buy their CD's CD's are too expensive i should be able to make a back up copy of anything i own I bought a CD and its scratched, so i had to buy it twice the labels are screwing the artists
I only have one thing new to bring to this: yesterday, on CNN, in between terrorism and more terrorism, on the ticker at the bottom, i saw something that said "RIAA reports loss of $5B last year, says mostly attributed to CD burning piracy". I've been all over the RIAA and CNN's websites and can find nothing about it. If you find something, please post below.
On a side note, its really hard to find news about anything "else" these days. I swear to god, with the 24 hour afghan channels, i have no idea what else is going down in my own country. And its only 5% news. Like jon stewart said, its like they report everything they know, and then they speculate to fill the time, like "what if they had a nuclear weapon, the size of a.... um... doughnut. yeah. and it was shaped like a doughnut... lets talk to the experts... get me dunkin doughnuts!"
What about sites like Slashdot, where new content slowly encroaches upon old?
I think you're missing the big picture here - the quality of the content on slashdot will go down the tubes because no one will preview their comments before submitting them!
I prefer my movies without sex and without language.
Wow. Even before the 'talkies' appeared on the scene, they'd put the essential dialogue into the movie as a sort of 'slide'. Offhand, I can't think of any movies with no language at all, though I expect there are some animated ones with language only in the titles and credits.
what i think he meant was: "I prefer movies with sex and without language." and there are certainly plenty of those.
Note that by doing so, you are voiding any warranty you may have started with, risk blowing up your eyeballs, etc, do proceed with caution.
We're all (most) adults here, there's no need to remind us of the consequences of our actions. If you put up warnings for this, you should put up warnings every time a kernel release story is out - "caution. This kernel may cause unstability, security holes, poor performance, oily discharge, etc".
With them, you pay throughout the short-term, the forseeable future, and even the long run.
You're modded up as funny, but you've hit on a key point... from the article: "But there are hidden costs to Linux, Microsoft argues. 'I think a lot of customers are lured by the apparent low price of Linux,'" I'm not lured to linux by the apparent low price of anything. I'm lured by the actual free price. This whole thing with "you'll pay in the long run" is rediculous. Yeah, you'll pay in the long run. You'll pay to keep your distro up to date - a tech support guy has to type apt-get update every coupla days. Or, heaven forbid, once every 2 years, you'll want to bust down $60 at best buy for the "enterprise" edition of whatever distro you want.
Now, microsoft... Even before.NET, if you bought an OS from them in 98, then you needed another one in 99 (98se), another one in 2000 (Me), and another one in 2001 (XP) plus numerous hardware upgrades. So, the average cost of those software upgrades is $75 Per Boxen, and probably $100 in hardware upgrades, again, per box.
I just fail to see where the "pay in the log run" comes into linux that it doesn't come into windows.
tom's hardware has a great Piece on cpu fans. They rate 'em on temperature versus noise... Not surprisingly, the biggest heatsink with the largest fan caused the greatest drop in temperature and the most noise. But if you're looking for some brand ideas, its a great read. Also, there is the following: Silencer 80mm Fan (sold by someone else but made by PC Power&Cooling) 24dba SECCII fan
I got these last few from here, i thought slashdot had run an article linking to the tom's hardware review, but i can't seem to find it.
no, wait, they are predefined! Holy crap! This needs to be done!!! If mozilla uses the links tag to fetch a page that's marked by a next tag, then it would be the top dog, period!
Of course it wouldn't be 100% effective, but it probably would be close to 70%, wouldn't it? i mean cause some people wouldn't use the word NEXT right? i dunno. But if this worked properly, mozilla could rule the world. Your average joe on a 56K would feel like they were broadband!
Give this comment some serious thought.
~zero
if you're thinking wireless...(off topic, no +1)
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i'll give you that. I'm in the marching band, and as such, i love the football. I go to all the games, scream with the best of them, yell "suck it" to the other team, and "the ref beats his wife" to... well... the ref.
I was disgusted with our game on saturday against SU. Our team thought they could stroll in to warsham field and sweep everything. We got cocky. And we sucked. We're a better football team than Syracuse, but they deserved to win, cause we didn't even bother to show up.
Plus, its complicated by the fact that Grant Noel can't run, but that you have the good QB (randall) practicing/warming up with the 2nd team, so that you are afraid to put him in when Noel isn't doing so hot. but the real deal is that we have NO offensive line. Our defense is doin great, they're one of the best, and Ben Taylor is Engelberger mach][. But we need to kick our o-line in the ass a coupla times. Noel, even though slow, should have been able to avoid going down every 2 minutes of play - he was getting no coverage. They need to light a fire under it.
Also, our recievers need to learn to hold onto the ball. We fumbled so many balls that game. Notice i'm not blaiming the ref's. There were some bad calls in that game, and might have changed the outcome, but we played an aweful game.
The consolation comes in that everyone lost on saturday, the top5 isn't recognizeable from last week's. Another thing to consider is: if miami beats syracuse, and then we pull off beating miami... who goes to the Big East BCS bowl? Oh well, at least temple is everybody's bitch.
If you're thinking wireless, and you're considering college, virginia tech. We just bought 4 OC-12's, and we're putting up wireless thru the entire campus this winter, or spring, i don't know which (i suspect spring). Its already available in some parts of campus.
Re:No more 16-bit DOS code... again?
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windows 95:
A 32-bit extention to a 16-bit graphical interface running on an 8-bit command line coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company.
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The thing you're missing is this: from what i gather about the ad, they're not talking about charging users to go googling. They're talking about charging corporations for listing them first, effectively creating the best advertising model ever. You search for something, and a company associated with your search string has a website that pops up at the top of the list. Naturally you click on that.
The problem i see is - isn't this taking away from the objective of google in the first place? They were trying to make a fast search database, so they took out all the bullshit and made it simple. I thought that google indexed things based on what people that search for the same thing you do click on, i.e. if i searched for slashdot, it would bring up the item that the last 100 people that searched for slashdot clicked on. By putting ads in that spot, aren't they just making their own ground breaking idea less effective? Seems like a step backwards to me.
But then, you gotta make money, feed the kids... business is business - 10 GOTO 10. If they do it, i won't stop using google.
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that's rediculous.
Everyone knows that a T3 will be 28.7 times better than T1. Just look at the number of individual channels.
~z
IRC is dying, but not dead. /map and see that cservice.undernet.org had 2 clients and was connected to baltimore-r.md.us.undernet.org - it gave the kiddiez a real easy target - take down the X or W server and there's chaos, and the only way to get ops is if you had your own bot or an oper with a global O:line opped you.
In response to the stuff about EFnet configuration versus Undernet configuration, it is undernet that uses no nickserv or chanserv (per se). Nicks on undernet are first come first served. Undernet, for the longest time, used a much weaker channel service method, as well: They had two universal bots, X and W. The problem with this idea is that the bots were hosted on servers connected to hubs. So it wasn't hard to
I'm not sure what they're doing now, but i think that X is a distributed channelservice now, that each server has a piece of X in them. My point was just that at least EFnet's administration, if not their administrators (not high opinion) had a better chanserv and actually had a nickserv (no split collisions). It was just that undernet, from the start, was less seedy.
Didn't stop them from taking down irc2.att.net - at&t's undernet server which rocked - had the best ops, most bandwidth (att-duh) and better hardware - they could sustain 10,000 connections and frequently went higher than that. Now delinked.
~z
They're still waiting for the government to appropriate funds to provide adequate drainage. The problem is that this would require a government-sponsered lottery. I guess the right-wingers decided they'd rather be all wet.
~z
you should definately use USGuard rather than zshell. Much faster and less space, i believe. The later version of tetris that i had only ran in usguard, but it was 2 player (link cable) and ran fast as crap.
Zshell stood for Z-80 shell, by the way.
You can find out information about usguard here, which seems to be broken. The download is also available at this page which is. There's also mucho information here.
~z
speaking of gwar, which you were, but the thread wasn't...
Violence has arrived is the best album ever created. No album can be that good. And.... if you're a true fan, i'll see you jan 16th at the norva in virginia beach for the opening tour of the Blood Drive 2002 tour, and then again on jan 17th in winston salem NC. Get tickets here.
GWAR FOREVER. yeah, i have a tatoo.
slashdot isn't your be-all end-all of news sources, is it? One could argue that all news sources are run by incompetant assholes with an agenda, and one would probably be right. I enjoy reading, not for the flame wars, but for the content, such as it is.
~z
ok, i kind of feel lazy even pointing this out, but...
The revolutionary aspect of this thing is that yeah it has gyroscopes and all that shtuff, but in reality, it is "walking for the lazy man" and is related to this product. The implecations of this aren't fantastic, and its not gonna change the world, but anything that makes a lazy man's life less mobile is worth.... something..... i dunno, you finish my post for me...
~z
What does this have to do with anything? I don't know any windows users that submit bug reports.
Not to call attention to the devil its self, windowsXP, but now when something crashes (i.e. "the playa" *.divx player) in windowsXP, it asks if you want to send an error report to microsoft.
Also, people submit bugs for mozilla, windows platform all the time, microsoft themselves have a bug submit page... i mean, it does happen, and rather often.
All i'm saying is that not all windows users are idiots. However, all idiots use windows.... or something.
~z
You also have to consider that any amount of compression will help.
Undernet coder-com was working on an idea to add to ircu.d that would (on multi proc machines) use one processor for the irc functions and the other, which was usually regulated to everyday mundane functions (running ssh server, typical processes) to compress data going from server to server to reduce the lag time in some of the long jumps like *.eu to *.us. This was in the wake of the 3Gbps DDoS attacks on the system, causing several servers to delink. (we miss you irc2.att.net)
So compression server side has lots of uses, not just for modem lusers. When the vast majority of what you're transfering is conversational text, compression works wonders
~z
right but my point was that most of the "easily available" forms of hydrogen aren't H2. H2 isn't exactly portable or feasable in large quantites, and everyone always points to things like glucose (C6H12O6) as a source of hydrogen. I was just pointing out that this doesn't work because essentially you have the same byproducts as gas.
~z
in addition to that, hydrogen in gasseous form is not at all dense, and liquid hydrogen is not practical to fuel something because of the insulation required to keep it cold, even though it is only slightly more expensive than milk to manufacture (according to my chem prof).
add to this that, yes the by product of H-O combustion is water, but to get hydrogen out of any hydrocarbon, you always get CO2 or NO2. Combustion reactions always follow the form
Fuel+O2 -- CO2/NO2+H2O+energy
So while you produce water in the end, you still produce CO2.
~z
Insert all the standard slashdot oriented comments here:
music should be owned by the artists
if they didn't put out crap we'd buy their CD's
CD's are too expensive
i should be able to make a back up copy of anything i own
I bought a CD and its scratched, so i had to buy it twice
the labels are screwing the artists
I only have one thing new to bring to this: yesterday, on CNN, in between terrorism and more terrorism, on the ticker at the bottom, i saw something that said "RIAA reports loss of $5B last year, says mostly attributed to CD burning piracy". I've been all over the RIAA and CNN's websites and can find nothing about it. If you find something, please post below.
And now for some quasi-related links!
Courtney Love speaks out against major labels at
The RIAA discusses cost of a CD at
~z
On a side note, its really hard to find news about anything "else" these days. I swear to god, with the 24 hour afghan channels, i have no idea what else is going down in my own country. And its only 5% news. Like jon stewart said, its like they report everything they know, and then they speculate to fill the time, like "what if they had a nuclear weapon, the size of a.... um... doughnut. yeah. and it was shaped like a doughnut... lets talk to the experts... get me dunkin doughnuts!"
What about sites like Slashdot, where new content slowly encroaches upon old?
I think you're missing the big picture here - the quality of the content on slashdot will go down the tubes because no one will preview their comments before submitting them!
oh well, here come the tpyo's
~z
I prefer my movies without sex and without language.
Wow. Even before the 'talkies' appeared on the scene, they'd put the essential dialogue into the movie as a sort of 'slide'. Offhand, I can't think of any movies with no language at all, though I expect there are some animated ones with language only in the titles and credits.
what i think he meant was: "I prefer movies with sex and without language." and there are certainly plenty of those.
~z
Note that by doing so, you are voiding any warranty you may have started with, risk blowing up your eyeballs, etc, do proceed with caution.
We're all (most) adults here, there's no need to remind us of the consequences of our actions. If you put up warnings for this, you should put up warnings every time a kernel release story is out - "caution. This kernel may cause unstability, security holes, poor performance, oily discharge, etc".
~z
With them, you pay throughout the short-term, the forseeable future, and even the long run.
.NET, if you bought an OS from them in 98, then you needed another one in 99 (98se), another one in 2000 (Me), and another one in 2001 (XP) plus numerous hardware upgrades. So, the average cost of those software upgrades is $75 Per Boxen, and probably $100 in hardware upgrades, again, per box.
You're modded up as funny, but you've hit on a key point... from the article: "But there are hidden costs to Linux, Microsoft argues. 'I think a lot of customers are lured by the apparent low price of Linux,'"
I'm not lured to linux by the apparent low price of anything. I'm lured by the actual free price. This whole thing with "you'll pay in the long run" is rediculous. Yeah, you'll pay in the long run. You'll pay to keep your distro up to date - a tech support guy has to type apt-get update every coupla days. Or, heaven forbid, once every 2 years, you'll want to bust down $60 at best buy for the "enterprise" edition of whatever distro you want.
Now, microsoft... Even before
I just fail to see where the "pay in the log run" comes into linux that it doesn't come into windows.
tom's hardware has a great Piece on cpu fans. They rate 'em on temperature versus noise... Not surprisingly, the biggest heatsink with the largest fan caused the greatest drop in temperature and the most noise. But if you're looking for some brand ideas, its a great read.
Also, there is the following:
Silencer 80mm Fan (sold by someone else but made by PC Power&Cooling)
24dba SECCII fan
I got these last few from here, i thought slashdot had run an article linking to the tom's hardware review, but i can't seem to find it.
~zr
no, wait, they are predefined! Holy crap! This needs to be done!!! If mozilla uses the links tag to fetch a page that's marked by a next tag, then it would be the top dog, period!
zero
holy crap, i never even thought of this!
Of course it wouldn't be 100% effective, but it probably would be close to 70%, wouldn't it? i mean cause some people wouldn't use the word NEXT right? i dunno. But if this worked properly, mozilla could rule the world. Your average joe on a 56K would feel like they were broadband!
Give this comment some serious thought.
~zero
i'll give you that. I'm in the marching band, and as such, i love the football. I go to all the games, scream with the best of them, yell "suck it" to the other team, and "the ref beats his wife" to ... well... the ref.
I was disgusted with our game on saturday against SU. Our team thought they could stroll in to warsham field and sweep everything. We got cocky. And we sucked. We're a better football team than Syracuse, but they deserved to win, cause we didn't even bother to show up.
Plus, its complicated by the fact that Grant Noel can't run, but that you have the good QB (randall) practicing/warming up with the 2nd team, so that you are afraid to put him in when Noel isn't doing so hot. but the real deal is that we have NO offensive line. Our defense is doin great, they're one of the best, and Ben Taylor is Engelberger mach][. But we need to kick our o-line in the ass a coupla times. Noel, even though slow, should have been able to avoid going down every 2 minutes of play - he was getting no coverage. They need to light a fire under it.
Also, our recievers need to learn to hold onto the ball. We fumbled so many balls that game. Notice i'm not blaiming the ref's. There were some bad calls in that game, and might have changed the outcome, but we played an aweful game.
The consolation comes in that everyone lost on saturday, the top5 isn't recognizeable from last week's. Another thing to consider is: if miami beats syracuse, and then we pull off beating miami... who goes to the Big East BCS bowl? Oh well, at least temple is everybody's bitch.
ah well, carry on my wayward son.
~z
If you're thinking wireless, and you're considering college, virginia tech. We just bought 4 OC-12's, and we're putting up wireless thru the entire campus this winter, or spring, i don't know which (i suspect spring). Its already available in some parts of campus.
A 32-bit extention to
a 16-bit graphical interface running on
an 8-bit command line coded for
a 4-bit microprocessor by
a 2-bit company.
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Where did you get that?
I got this:
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i don't get it
The thing you're missing is this:
from what i gather about the ad, they're not talking about charging users to go googling. They're talking about charging corporations for listing them first, effectively creating the best advertising model ever. You search for something, and a company associated with your search string has a website that pops up at the top of the list. Naturally you click on that.
The problem i see is - isn't this taking away from the objective of google in the first place? They were trying to make a fast search database, so they took out all the bullshit and made it simple.
I thought that google indexed things based on what people that search for the same thing you do click on, i.e. if i searched for slashdot, it would bring up the item that the last 100 people that searched for slashdot clicked on.
By putting ads in that spot, aren't they just making their own ground breaking idea less effective?
Seems like a step backwards to me.
But then, you gotta make money, feed the kids... business is business - 10 GOTO 10. If they do it, i won't stop using google.
~z